History YMMV / SavingPrivateRyan

16th Oct '16 2:27:24 AM Morgenthaler
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** A lot of the younger actors, especially Creator/MattDamon and VinDiesel, were not yet megastars at the time this movie came out. Damon had won an Oscar (albeit for Best Screenplay in ''Film/GoodWillHunting''), but it may yet have been a flash in the pan. Creator/StevenSpielberg is rightfully credited as helping jump-starting Diesel's career, writing the role specifically for him after seeing Diesel in his acclaimed short film.

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** A lot of the younger actors, especially Creator/MattDamon and VinDiesel, Creator/VinDiesel, were not yet megastars at the time this movie came out. Damon had won an Oscar (albeit for Best Screenplay in ''Film/GoodWillHunting''), but it may yet have been a flash in the pan. Creator/StevenSpielberg is rightfully credited as helping jump-starting Diesel's career, writing the role specifically for him after seeing Diesel in his acclaimed short film.
15th Oct '16 10:38:23 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* {{Narm}}: Played with, if that's possible with this trope. The scene with the wrong Private Ryan, played by Nathan Fillion, can come across as accidentally hilarious since [[ItWasHisSled everyone knows]] that Matt Damon is the Ryan they're looking for. So with that foreknowledge the scenes can come across as funny in a CrossesTheLineTwice sort of way. But at the end of the scene Fillion's Ryan is still worried about his brothers and realises he won't be going back home. His line "I wrote them a letter just yesterday" eliminates any humour the scene may have had.
* RetroactiveRecognition: A lot of the younger actors, especially Creator/MattDamon and VinDiesel, were not yet megastars at the time this movie came out. Matt Damon had won an Oscar (albeit for Best Screenplay in ''Film/GoodWillHunting''), but it may yet have been a flash in the pan. Spielberg is rightfully credited as helping jump-starting Diesel's career, writing the role specifically for him after seeing Diesel in his acclaimed short film.

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* {{Narm}}: Played with, if that's possible with this trope. The scene with the wrong Private Ryan, played by Nathan Fillion, can come across as accidentally hilarious since [[ItWasHisSled everyone knows]] that Matt Damon Creator/MattDamon is the Ryan they're looking for. So with that foreknowledge the scenes can come across as funny in a CrossesTheLineTwice sort of way. But at the end of the scene Fillion's Ryan is still worried about his brothers and realises he won't be going back home. His line "I wrote them a letter just yesterday" eliminates any humour the scene may have had.
* RetroactiveRecognition: RetroactiveRecognition:
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A lot of the younger actors, especially Creator/MattDamon and VinDiesel, were not yet megastars at the time this movie came out. Matt Damon had won an Oscar (albeit for Best Screenplay in ''Film/GoodWillHunting''), but it may yet have been a flash in the pan. Spielberg Creator/StevenSpielberg is rightfully credited as helping jump-starting Diesel's career, writing the role specifically for him after seeing Diesel in his acclaimed short film.



** [[Series/{{Firefly}} Nathan Filion]] as Private James ''Frederick'' Ryan from Minnesota
** Paul Giamatti and Bryan Cranston also have small roles and went on to become acclaimed actors.

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** [[Series/{{Firefly}} Nathan Filion]] Creator/NathanFilion as Private James ''Frederick'' Ryan from Minnesota
** Paul Giamatti Creator/PaulGiamatti and Bryan Cranston Creator/BryanCranston also have small roles and went on to become acclaimed actors.
29th Jul '16 7:56:03 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: [[spoiler: Upham's actions while Mellish is being killed]]. It sparks numerous debates among fans. Mostly because it becomes an argument of "What would YOU do?" It's easy to say what you would do in that situation, and the internet (and real life, for that matter) are chock full of people who will disagree with you, whatever your claim may be.

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* BaseBreaker: BrokenBase: [[spoiler: Upham's actions while Mellish is being killed]]. It sparks numerous debates among fans. Mostly because it becomes an argument of "What would YOU do?" It's easy to say what you would do in that situation, and the internet (and real life, for that matter) are chock full of people who will disagree with you, whatever your claim may be.
14th Mar '16 6:45:30 PM Evighet
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* FridgeBrilliance: At one point of the film Miller and Horvath discuss Ryan and their mission, with Miller stating that Ryan had better return home and cure cancer or invent the longer lasting light bulb. Later on he tells Ryan himself to "''earn this''". The elderly James Ryan tells [[spoiler:Miller's grave site]] that he has tried to live a good life and he hopes that in Miller's eyes this was enough. Not exactly the ideas Miller himself mentioned, and there has been a lot of discussion on whether Ryan ''did'' earn what they did for him. However, in a sense, we are all Private Ryan. It is oftentimes said that the soldiers who fought and died in WWII did so for our right to freedom and the way of life we take for granted today. How many of us have cured cancer or invented the longer lasting light bulb? Does that mean we aren't deserving of the sacrifice those soldiers made? Have any of us truly earned it? It may seem that Ryan should have done more with his life but maybe then we all should?
25th Dec '15 9:03:40 PM LtFedora
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** This is the first time that America put together an extremely dangerous rescue mission to bring home Matt Damon. [[{{Film/Interstellar}} It would not]] [[Film/TheMartian be the last.]]
4th Oct '15 6:00:31 PM fearlessnikki
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** Mostly because it becomes an argument of "What would YOU do?" It's easy to say what you would do in that situation, and the internet (and real life, for that matter) are chock full of people who will disagree with you, whatever your claim may be.



* BaseBreaker: [[spoiler: Upham's actions while Mellish is being killed]]. It sparks numerous debates among fans. Mostly because it becomes an argument of "What would YOU do?" It's easy to say what you would do in that situation, and the internet (and real life, for that matter) are chock full of people who will disagree with you, whatever your claim may be.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Jackson and Wade seem to be the favourites among the fandom. [[spoiler: Their deaths seem to elicit the most TearJerker reactions anyway]].



* FandomRivalry: With ''Film/ShakespeareInLove'' fans, due to the perceived AwardSnub at the Oscars. Spielberg won Best Director, but ''Shakespeare In Love'' won Best Film.
* FriendlyFandoms: With ''Series/BandOfBrothers'', due to both being companion pieces by Spielberg (though he only produced the miniseries) and having very similar visual styles - especially during the battle scenes. Both projects had the cast endure a boot camp from Captain Dale Dye too.
* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Private Ryan is a paratrooper in the 101st Airbourne. He refuses to go with Captain Miller because he does not want to desert his post and leave his comrades behind. ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' came out a couple of years later and focused on the real men of the 101st. After seeing truly how deep the men [[FireForgedFriends cared for each other]] makes Ryan's refusal to leave his post all the more poignant.



* HilariousInHindsight: At one point, a soldier calls for a 'Captain Hammer', literally two scenes before Nathan [[WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog 'Captain Hammer']] Fillion comes in as the wrong James Ryan.

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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At one point, a soldier calls for a 'Captain Hammer', literally two scenes before Nathan [[WebVideo/DoctorHorriblesSingAlongBlog 'Captain Hammer']] Fillion comes in as the wrong James Ryan.


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** Dale Dye has a cameo where he talks about how the 101st Airbourne has been scattered across Normandy. This is slightly hilarious as of Dye's role in ''Series/BandOfBrothers'', which covers the exploits of Easy Company in the 101st. It makes one chuckle that Dye's character in this doesn't know he has a lookalike in Normandy.
* ItWasHisSled: A minor example about an hour into the film. The unit finds a Private James F Ryan and breaks the news to him...only to find out it's not the one they're looking for. Spielberg's intention was to cast an unknown as Private Ryan and while Matt Damon had just recently netted an Oscar nomination for ''Film/GoodWillHunting'' he still wasn't exactly a star. Nowadays everyone knows Matt Damon is James Ryan, not to mention Nathan Fillion being a fairly recognisable name too. So while it's revealed Fillion's Ryan is not the guy pretty quickly, most new viewers are bound to catch on before it.
* JerkassWoobie: Mellish is a dick throughout the film but then you realise he's Jewish, and there's also an early scene where he's handed a Hitler youth knife. He tries to joke about it but bursts into tears. Reiben as well, since he only wants to desert the mission [[spoiler: after being forced to watch two comrades die slowly and painfully]].


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* {{Narm}}: Played with, if that's possible with this trope. The scene with the wrong Private Ryan, played by Nathan Fillion, can come across as accidentally hilarious since [[ItWasHisSled everyone knows]] that Matt Damon is the Ryan they're looking for. So with that foreknowledge the scenes can come across as funny in a CrossesTheLineTwice sort of way. But at the end of the scene Fillion's Ryan is still worried about his brothers and realises he won't be going back home. His line "I wrote them a letter just yesterday" eliminates any humour the scene may have had.
24th Jun '15 6:15:36 AM maxwellsilver
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** This movie wouldn't be the last time where Film/TomHanks [[Film/SavingMrBanks saved the titular character]].

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** This movie wouldn't be the last time where Film/TomHanks Creator/TomHanks [[Film/SavingMrBanks saved the titular character]].
24th Jun '15 6:13:53 AM maxwellsilver
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Upham. Gutless DirtyCoward, or sympathetic [[TheEveryman Everyman]] who does what many untrained, ordinary people would do [[WarIsHell in the heat of battle?]] Any online discussion of [[spoiler:Mellish's death scene]] will inevitably devolve into this.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Upham. Gutless DirtyCoward, or sympathetic [[TheEveryman Everyman]] who does what many untrained, inexperienced, ordinary people would do [[WarIsHell in the heat of battle?]] Any online discussion of [[spoiler:Mellish's death scene]] will inevitably devolve into this.
24th May '15 7:00:03 PM igordebraga
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* DawsonCasting: Sort of. By the time of Normandy, most officers (in battle and combat) were in their late twenties to early thirties at most, with everyone under them being younger, even if only by a couple years. Tom Hanks was in his early 40s when this was filmed. All of the other actors were (for the most part) older than their characters, save Horvath (whose relative age is left untouched entirely). Furthermore, the stress of combat causes accelerated aging, which a lot of the soldiers on the battlefields of World War II would have faced.
* {{Fanon}}: Many people who saw the film were confused as to whether the German soldier that kills Corporal Mellish is also "Steamboat Willie." They are in fact, different soldiers. The soldier that kills Mellish has Waffen SS lapel insignia, while "Steamboat Willie" has the lapel insignia of an enlisted soldier in the Wehrmacht Heer. It doesn't really matter what you yourself think - if they were the same person it adds a little interesting twist, and if you felt bad for "Steamboat Willie" you can feel he survived the war.
** If you go along with the idea that they're the same guy, it adds a layer of harshness considering that it was Upham who defended him at the radar station. Then he returns and...
*** Except that we KNOW Steamboat Willie dies. He's right there among the POWs before Upham, and after a brief exchange in German, recognizes the one of two Americans who has shown him mercy. He gives a softened, defanged, and almost pitiful "Upham!", outright recognizing and in the same moment attempting to appeal to the one US soldier he ever connected with personally. And then Upham fires. Granted, the shot is done so that we don't actually SEE who he fires at, but instead of remaining ambiguous, the film shows the remaining Germans present...and there's Steamboat Willie. With his face in the dirt. And dead.
*** And if you feel sorry for him, just remember that it was Steamboat Willie that shot and mortally wounded Captain Miller.

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* DawsonCasting: Sort of. By DoNotDoThisCoolThing: As an extremely bloody and realistic war movie the time of Normandy, most officers (in battle and combat) were in their late twenties to early thirties at most, with everyone under them being younger, even if only natural expectation is that it would work solely as an anti-war movie by showing the horror. However, there is a couple years. Tom Hanks was in his early 40s when this was filmed. All non-trivial section of the other actors were (for audience that found the most part) older than their characters, save Horvath (whose relative age is left untouched entirely). Furthermore, (lavishly shot) action scenes exhilarating, even glamorous. These reactions are far from mutually exclusive.
** Of course, your opinion may take a 180 degree turn when
the stress of combat causes accelerated aging, which medics try to stop a lot of soldier from bleeding out, or during the soldiers on the battlefields of World War II would have faced.
Telegram scene.
* {{Fanon}}: Many people who saw the film were confused as to whether the German soldier that kills Corporal Mellish is also "Steamboat Willie." They are in fact, different soldiers. The soldier that kills Mellish has Waffen SS lapel insignia, while "Steamboat Willie" has the lapel insignia of an enlisted soldier in the Wehrmacht Heer. It doesn't really matter what you yourself think - if they were the same person it adds a little interesting twist, and if you felt bad for "Steamboat Willie" you can feel he survived the war.\n** If you go along with the idea that they're the same guy, it adds a layer of harshness considering that it was Upham who defended him at the radar station. Then he returns and...\n*** Except that we KNOW Steamboat Willie dies. He's right there among the POWs before Upham, and after a brief exchange in German, recognizes the one of two Americans who has shown him mercy. He gives a softened, defanged, and almost pitiful "Upham!", outright recognizing and in the same moment attempting to appeal to the one US soldier he ever connected with personally. And then Upham fires. Granted, the shot is done so that we don't actually SEE who he fires at, but instead of remaining ambiguous, the film shows the remaining Germans present...and there's Steamboat Willie. With his face in the dirt. And dead.\n*** And if you feel sorry for him, just remember that it was Steamboat Willie that shot and mortally wounded Captain Miller.



* MisaimedFandom: As discussed on the main page, many ignore the message that WarIsHell and only like the carnage in the war scenes.

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* MisaimedFandom: As discussed on the main page, noted above, many ignore the message that WarIsHell and only like the carnage in the war scenes.
20th May '15 4:42:14 PM nombretomado
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* AwardSnub: One of the most famous in the history of the Academy. The film lost the Best Picture AcademyAward to ''Film/ShakespeareInLove'' due to the Weinsteins heavily lobbying their movie. ''Saving Private Ryan'' is the film people remember more these days.

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* AwardSnub: One of the most famous in the history of the Academy. The film lost the Best Picture AcademyAward UsefulNotes/AcademyAward to ''Film/ShakespeareInLove'' due to the Weinsteins heavily lobbying their movie. ''Saving Private Ryan'' is the film people remember more these days.
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