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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: A chief complaint about the movie is the rewriting of Himeko and Kakeru's relationship. The manga demonstrates their issues stemmed from how Kakeru's health problems stopped him from being an astronaut and caused a riff between him and Himeko. The movie instead has Kakeru lashing out at Himeko because she doesn't share his beliefs about Princess Kaguya and makes him far more hostile. Likewise, Himeko's agency is removed as she's relegated to just Kakeru's love interest, compared to how she destroys Princess Snow Kaguya's crystal body in the manga and directly interacts with the Sailor Senshi about destroying the comet.



** Kakeru, who is otherwise a KindheartedCatLover, when he snaps at Himeko when she doesn't believe in Princess Kakeru, instead it comes acoss as overreactionary and uncalled for.

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** Kakeru, who is otherwise a KindheartedCatLover, when he snaps at Himeko when she doesn't believe in Princess Kakeru, instead it comes acoss across as overreactionary and uncalled for.

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* QuestionableCasting: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting (though to some, having her older instead of remaining a [[ValuesDissonance 14-year-old human]] in the 2000 dub makes Kakeru and Luna's relationship less [[{{Squick}} squicky]]).



** Himeko's treated pretty badly by Kakeru, screaming at her just because she honestly doesn't believe there's a real Princess Kaguya living on the moon and is concerned for Kakeru's mental health that he keeps obsessing over the legend and insisting upon its truth.
* WTHCastingAgency: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting (though to some, having her older instead of remaining a [[ValuesDissonance 14-year-old human]] in the 2000 dub makes Kakeru and Luna's relationship less [[{{Squick}} squicky]]).

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** Himeko's treated pretty badly by Kakeru, screaming at her just because she honestly doesn't believe there's a real Princess Kaguya living on the moon and is concerned for Kakeru's mental health that he keeps obsessing over the legend and insisting upon its truth.
* WTHCastingAgency: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting (though to some, having her older instead of remaining a [[ValuesDissonance 14-year-old human]] in the 2000 dub makes Kakeru and Luna's relationship less [[{{Squick}} squicky]]).
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** Kakeru, who is otherwise a KindHeartedCatLover, when he snaps at Himeko when she doesn't believe in Princess Kakeru, instead it comes acoss as overreactionary and uncalled for.
** The Inner Guardians (save Ami) accusing ''[[TheHero Usagi]]'' [[NiceGirl of]] [[KindHeartedCatLover all]] [[AllLovingHero people]] of being mean to Luna and driving her away, although they are understandably worried for Luna's well being, it makes them come across as grabbing the JerkassBall for no other reason than their emotions getting carried away. Rei especially comes across as a {{Hypocrite}} considering she was something of a bully to Usagi in this incarnation ''especially'' in the DIC dub.

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** Kakeru, who is otherwise a KindHeartedCatLover, KindheartedCatLover, when he snaps at Himeko when she doesn't believe in Princess Kakeru, instead it comes acoss as overreactionary and uncalled for.
** The Inner Guardians (save Ami) accusing ''[[TheHero Usagi]]'' [[NiceGirl of]] [[KindHeartedCatLover [[KindheartedCatLover all]] [[AllLovingHero people]] of being mean to Luna and driving her away, although they are understandably worried for Luna's well being, it makes them come across as grabbing the JerkassBall for no other reason than their emotions getting carried away. Rei especially comes across as a {{Hypocrite}} considering she was something of a bully to Usagi in this incarnation ''especially'' in the DIC dub.
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** The inner guardians (save Ami) accusing ''[[TheHero Usagi]]'' [[NiceGirl of]] [[ProneToTears all]] [[AllLovingHero people]] of being mean to Luna and driving her away, although they are understandably worried for Luna's well being, it makes them come across as grabbing the JerkassBall for no other reason than their emotions getting carried away. Rei especially comes across as a {{Hypocrite}} considering she was something of a bully to Usagi in this incarnation ''especially'' in the DIC dub.

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** The inner guardians Inner Guardians (save Ami) accusing ''[[TheHero Usagi]]'' [[NiceGirl of]] [[ProneToTears [[KindHeartedCatLover all]] [[AllLovingHero people]] of being mean to Luna and driving her away, although they are understandably worried for Luna's well being, it makes them come across as grabbing the JerkassBall for no other reason than their emotions getting carried away. Rei especially comes across as a {{Hypocrite}} considering she was something of a bully to Usagi in this incarnation ''especially'' in the DIC dub.
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** The inner guardians (save Ami) accusing ''[[TheHero Usagi]]'' [[NiceGirl of]] [[ProneToTears all]] [[AllLovingHero people]] of being mean to Luna and driving her away, although they are understandably worried for Luna's well being, it makes them come across as grabbing the JerkassBall for no other reason than their emotions getting carried away. Rei especially comes across as a {{Hypocrite}} considering she was something of a bully to Usagi in this incarnation ''especially'' in the DIC dub.

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Luna and Artemis where more explictly in love in the manga, here in the anime it was more subtle.


* NeverLiveItDown: Luna cheating on Artemis with Kakeru, especially considering [[MoralMyopia she goes berserk in a later episode when she thinks Artemis did the same to her]].

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* NeverLiveItDown: JerkassWoobie: Even if she is a bit temperamental and harsh at times, you can't help but feel sorry for Luna cheating on Artemis with her crush on Kakeru, especially considering [[MoralMyopia she goes berserk which could ''never'' happen in a later episode when she thinks Artemis did the same to her]]. million years.



** Luna, who's unrequited love for Kakeru would be endearing if she weren't blatantly cheating on Artemis in the process.
** Kakeru, whose obsession with the Princess Kaguya legend and his anger that Himeko doesn't believe in it the same way he does makes him seem like a deluded douchebag.

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** Luna, who's unrequited love for Kakeru would be endearing if she weren't blatantly cheating on Artemis in the process.
** Kakeru, whose obsession with the Princess Kaguya legend and his anger that who is otherwise a KindHeartedCatLover, when he snaps at Himeko when she doesn't believe in Princess Kakeru, instead it the same way he does makes him seem like a deluded douchebag.comes acoss as overreactionary and uncalled for.



** Poor Artemis is shoved to the background so Luna can focus on her disturbing love for Kakeru with the only person speaking on his behalf is Minako.

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** Poor Artemis wants to confess his feelings to Luna, who is shoved to the background so Luna can focus on her disturbing love for too infatuated with Kakeru to realize, with the only person speaking on his behalf is Minako.Minako. [[ThrowTheDogABone Fortunately]] Luna returns his feelings for him at the end.

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* CompleteMonster: [[VillainousPrincess Princess Snow Kaguya]] is a malevolent [[AnIcePerson ice entity]] who goes around freezing planets for her "collection". Having frozen countless planets, Kaguya made her way to the Earth in the past. She was repelled, but continued freezing worlds. Eventually, Kaguya decided to eventually return Eons later. Tracking down an innocent astronomer for finding her shard that broke off from her traveling comet, Kaguya doomed him to a [[CruelAndUnusualDeath slow, painful death]]. Kaguya ultimately plans to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy the world]] by freezing it and its inhabitants solid, with her Snow Dancers helping her.

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* CompleteMonster: [[VillainousPrincess Princess Snow Kaguya]] is a malevolent [[AnIcePerson ice entity]] who goes around freezing planets for her "collection". Having frozen countless planets, Kaguya made her way to the Earth in the past. She past, where she was repelled, repelled but continued freezing worlds. Eventually, Kaguya decided to eventually return Eons later. Tracking down an innocent astronomer for finding her shard that broke off from her traveling comet, Kaguya doomed him to a [[CruelAndUnusualDeath slow, painful death]]. Kaguya ultimately plans to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy the world]] by freezing it and its inhabitants solid, with her Snow Dancers helping her.
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*CompleteMonster: [[VillainousPrincess Princess Snow Kaguya]] is a malevolent [[AnIcePerson ice entity]] who goes around freezing planets for her "collection". Having frozen countless planets, Kaguya made her way to the Earth in the past. She was repelled, but continued freezing worlds. Eventually, Kaguya decided to eventually return Eons later. Tracking down an innocent astronomer for finding her shard that broke off from her traveling comet, Kaguya doomed him to a [[CruelAndUnusualDeath slow, painful death]]. Kaguya ultimately plans to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy the world]] by freezing it and its inhabitants solid, with her Snow Dancers helping her.
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** Himeko's treated pretty badly by Kakeru, screaming at her just because she honestly doesn't believe there's a real Princess Kaguya living on the moon.

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** Himeko's treated pretty badly by Kakeru, screaming at her just because she honestly doesn't believe there's a real Princess Kaguya living on the moon.moon and is concerned for Kakeru's mental health that he keeps obsessing over the legend and insisting upon its truth.

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* {{Narm}}:
** The original 2000 dub has many examples:
*** The scene with Luna crying was ruined with her making cat "meow" noises, and basically just sounding like a dying cat instead.
*** The Snow Dancers made strange vocal noises that reminded many fans of "barking chihuahuas."
*** Sailor Pluto's voice actress' ditzy delivery of "You know, it's almost as if time has stopped!"
** The 2018 dub is a huge improvement, but still has Luna tell Kakeru, "I love you, my space man." Resulting in unintentional laughter from audiences.

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* {{Narm}}:
%% ** The original 2000 dub has many examples:
%% *** The scene with Luna crying was ruined with her making cat "meow" noises, and basically just sounding like a dying cat instead.
%% *** The Snow Dancers made strange vocal noises that reminded many fans of "barking chihuahuas."
%% *** Sailor Pluto's voice actress' ditzy delivery of "You know, it's almost as if time has stopped!"
%% ** The 2018 dub is a huge improvement, but still has Luna tell Kakeru, "I love you, my space man." Resulting in unintentional laughter from audiences.



* WTHCastingAgency: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting (though to some, having her older instead of remaining a [[ValuesDissonance 14 year old human]] in the 2000 dub makes Kakeru and Luna's relationship less [[{{Squick}} squicky]]).

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* WTHCastingAgency: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting (though to some, having her older instead of remaining a [[ValuesDissonance 14 year old 14-year-old human]] in the 2000 dub makes Kakeru and Luna's relationship less [[{{Squick}} squicky]]).
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Moved to the funny moments segment


* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Funny Moments]]: in the original dub, after Tuxedo Mask delivers a hammy speech about how the Snow Dancers' actions aren't acceptable, the Dancer who was fighting Sailor Moon and Chibi Moon -- who, like all the other Dancers, mostly shrieked -- snarkily replies with "You don't say!"
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One sided example of BBC.


* BaseBreakingCharacter: Luna's actions in this story, both the manga version and the film, are highly contentious among readers. Many felt the way she treats Artemis is rather abhorrent, ignoring him and basically trying to cheat on him with Kakeru (while the rest of the girls (save Minako in the movie) think it's great she's fallen in love) and then going back to him at the end like he was on standby or something. It's somehow even worse in the manga where Artemis actually told Luna it was okay to go to Kakeru despite how scared he was of Luna leaving him. This, coupled with the shoddy way Luna tends to treat Artemis in the original series (frequently attacking him when she's mad or jumping to conclusions, cheating on him ''again'' with Yaten), is one of the reasons why Luna's considered UnintentionallyUnsympathetic. Her being [[ValuesDissonance around 14 in human form]] doesn't help to some people.
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** Luna, who's unrequited love for Kakeru would be endearing if she weren't blatantly cheating on Artemis in the process. The fact that [[MoralMyopia she flips out at Artemis in a later episode for apparently doing the same to her]] makes her look even worse.

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** Luna, who's unrequited love for Kakeru would be endearing if she weren't blatantly cheating on Artemis in the process. The fact that [[MoralMyopia she flips out at Artemis in a later episode for apparently doing the same to her]] makes her look even worse.
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** Luna, who's unrequited love for Kakeru would be endearing if she weren't blatantly cheating on Artemis in the process, especially since [[MoralMyopia she flips out when Artemis apparently does the same to her]] in a future episode.

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** Luna, who's unrequited love for Kakeru would be endearing if she weren't blatantly cheating on Artemis in the process, especially since process. The fact that [[MoralMyopia she flips out when at Artemis in a later episode for apparently does doing the same to her]] in a future episode.makes her look even worse.
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** Luna, who's unrequited love for Kakeru would be endearing if she weren't blatantly cheating on Artemis in the process, especially since [[MoralMyopia she flips out at him when Artemis apparently does the same to her]] in a future episode.

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** Luna, who's unrequited love for Kakeru would be endearing if she weren't blatantly cheating on Artemis in the process, especially since [[MoralMyopia she flips out at him when Artemis apparently does the same to her]] in a future episode.
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** Luna, who's unrequited love for Kakeru would be endearing if she weren't blatantly cheating on Artemis in the process. The fact that [[MoralMyopia she flips out at Artemis apparently doing the same to her]] in a future episode certainly doesn't help at all.

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** Luna, who's unrequited love for Kakeru would be endearing if she weren't blatantly cheating on Artemis in the process. The fact that process, especially since [[MoralMyopia she flips out at him when Artemis apparently doing does the same to her]] in a future episode certainly doesn't help at all.episode.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Luna cheating on Artemis with Kakeru, especially considering [[MoralMyopia she goes berserk in a later episode when she thinks Artemis did the same to her]].

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* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Funny Moments]]: in the original dub, after Tuxedo Mask delivers a hammy speech about how the Snow Dancers' actions aren't acceptable, the Dancer who was fighting Sailor Moon and Chibi Moon--who, like all the other Dancers, mostly shrieked--snarkily replies with "You don't say!"

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* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Funny Moments]]: in the original dub, after Tuxedo Mask delivers a hammy speech about how the Snow Dancers' actions aren't acceptable, the Dancer who was fighting Sailor Moon and Chibi Moon--who, Moon -- who, like all the other Dancers, mostly shrieked--snarkily shrieked -- snarkily replies with "You don't say!"



* WTHCastingAgency: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting (though to some, having her older instead of remaining a [[ValuesDissonance 14 year old human]] in the 2000 dub makes Kakeru and Luna's relationship less [[{{Squick}} squicky]]).



** Luna, who's unrequited love for Kakeru would be endearing if she weren't blatantly cheating on Artemis in the process.

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** Luna, who's unrequited love for Kakeru would be endearing if she weren't blatantly cheating on Artemis in the process. The fact that [[MoralMyopia she flips out at Artemis apparently doing the same to her]] in a future episode certainly doesn't help at all.



** Himeko's treated pretty badly by Kakeru, screaming at her just because she honestly doesn't believe there's a real Princess Kaguya living on the moon.

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** Himeko's treated pretty badly by Kakeru, screaming at her just because she honestly doesn't believe there's a real Princess Kaguya living on the moon.moon.
* WTHCastingAgency: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting (though to some, having her older instead of remaining a [[ValuesDissonance 14 year old human]] in the 2000 dub makes Kakeru and Luna's relationship less [[{{Squick}} squicky]]).
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* WTHCastingAgency: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting (though to some, having her older in the 2000 dub makes Kakeru and Luna's relationship less [[{{Squick}} squicky]]).

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* WTHCastingAgency: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting (though to some, having her older instead of remaining a [[ValuesDissonance 14 year old human]] in the 2000 dub makes Kakeru and Luna's relationship less [[{{Squick}} squicky]]).
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** The 2018 dub is a huge improvement, but still has Luna tell Kakeru, "you will always be my space man," resulting in unintentional laughter from audiences.

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** The 2018 dub is a huge improvement, but still has Luna tell Kakeru, "you will always be "I love you, my space man," resulting man." Resulting in unintentional laughter from audiences.
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Some people see it this way


* WTHCastingAgency: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting.

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* WTHCastingAgency: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting.unfitting (though to some, having her older in the 2000 dub makes Kakeru and Luna's relationship less [[{{Squick}} squicky]]).
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The Values Dissonance of Luna being a teenager in love with a full blown adult is what some people would turn off.


* BaseBreakingCharacter: Luna's actions in this story, both the manga version and the film, are highly contentious among readers. Many felt the way she treats Artemis is rather abhorrent, ignoring him and basically trying to cheat on him with Kakeru (while the rest of the girls (save Minako in the movie) think it's great she's fallen in love) and then going back to him at the end like he was on standby or something. It's somehow even worse in the manga where Artemis actually told Luna it was okay to go to Kakeru despite how scared he was of Luna leaving him. This, coupled with the shoddy way Luna tends to treat Artemis in the original series (frequently attacking him when she's mad or jumping to conclusions, cheating on him ''again'' with Yaten), is one of the reasons why Luna's considered UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Luna's actions in this story, both the manga version and the film, are highly contentious among readers. Many felt the way she treats Artemis is rather abhorrent, ignoring him and basically trying to cheat on him with Kakeru (while the rest of the girls (save Minako in the movie) think it's great she's fallen in love) and then going back to him at the end like he was on standby or something. It's somehow even worse in the manga where Artemis actually told Luna it was okay to go to Kakeru despite how scared he was of Luna leaving him. This, coupled with the shoddy way Luna tends to treat Artemis in the original series (frequently attacking him when she's mad or jumping to conclusions, cheating on him ''again'' with Yaten), is one of the reasons why Luna's considered UnintentionallyUnsympathetic. Her being [[ValuesDissonance around 14 in human form]] doesn't help to some people.
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* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Funny Moments]]: in the original dub, after Tuxedo Mask delivers a hammy speech about how the Snow Dancers' actions aren't acceptable, the Dancer who was fighting Sailor Moon and Chibi Moon--who, like all the other Dancers, mostly shrieked--briefly snarks at him with "You don't say!"

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* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Funny Moments]]: in the original dub, after Tuxedo Mask delivers a hammy speech about how the Snow Dancers' actions aren't acceptable, the Dancer who was fighting Sailor Moon and Chibi Moon--who, like all the other Dancers, mostly shrieked--briefly snarks at him shrieked--snarkily replies with "You don't say!"
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* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Funny Moments]]: in the original dub, after Tuxedo Mask delivers a hammy speech about how the Snow Dancers' actions aren't acceptable, the Dancer who was fighting Sailor Moon and Chibi Moon--who, like all the other Dancers, mostly shrieked--briefly snarks at him with "You don't say!"
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Luna's actions in this story, both the manga version and the film, are highly contentious among readers. Many felt the way she treats Artemis is rather abhorrent, ignoring him and basically trying to cheat on him with Kakeru (while the rest of the girls (save Minako in the movie) think it's great she's fallen in love) and then going back to him at the end like he was on standby or something. It's somehow even worse in the manga where Artemis actually told Luna it was okay to go to Kakeru despite how scared he was of Luna leaving him. This, coupled with the shoddy way Luna tends to treat Artemis in the original series (frequently attacking him when she's mad or jumping to conclusions, cheating on him ''again'' with Yaten), is one of the reasons why Luna's considered UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.



* WTHCastingAgency: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting.

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* WTHCastingAgency: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting.unfitting.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Luna, who's unrequited love for Kakeru would be endearing if she weren't blatantly cheating on Artemis in the process.
** Kakeru, whose obsession with the Princess Kaguya legend and his anger that Himeko doesn't believe in it the same way he does makes him seem like a deluded douchebag.
* TheWoobie:
** Poor Artemis is shoved to the background so Luna can focus on her disturbing love for Kakeru with the only person speaking on his behalf is Minako.
** Himeko's treated pretty badly by Kakeru, screaming at her just because she honestly doesn't believe there's a real Princess Kaguya living on the moon.

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** The original 2000 dub has many examples, mostly involving Luna. The scene with her crying was ruined with her making cat "meow" noises, and basically just sounding like a dying cat instead. Also, many fans thought the Snow Dancers sounded like "barking chihuahuas."

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** The original 2000 dub has many examples, mostly involving Luna. examples:
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The scene with her Luna crying was ruined with her making cat "meow" noises, and basically just sounding like a dying cat instead. Also, many fans thought the instead.
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Snow Dancers sounded like made strange vocal noises that reminded many fans of "barking chihuahuas.""
*** Sailor Pluto's voice actress' ditzy delivery of "You know, it's almost as if time has stopped!"

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** The original 2000 dub has many examples, mostly involving Luna. The scene with her crying was ruined with her making cat "meow" noises, and basically just sounding like a dying cat instead.
** The 2018 dub is a huge improvement, but still has Luna tell Kakeru, "you will always be my space man," resulting in unintentional laughter from audiences.

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** The original 2000 dub has many examples, mostly involving Luna. The scene with her crying was ruined with her making cat "meow" noises, and basically just sounding like a dying cat instead. \n Also, many fans thought the Snow Dancers sounded like "barking chihuahuas."
** The 2018 dub is a huge improvement, but still has Luna tell Kakeru, "you will always be my space man," resulting in unintentional laughter from audiences.audiences.
* WTHCastingAgency: The original dub keeping Jill Frappier for the voice of Luna's beautiful young human form, even though her elderly British-accented take on the character was highly unfitting.
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* {{Narm}}:
** The original 2000 dub has many examples, mostly involving Luna. The scene with her crying was ruined with her making cat "meow" noises, and basically just sounding like a dying cat instead.
** The 2018 dub is a huge improvement, but still has Luna tell Kakeru, "you will always be my space man," resulting in unintentional laughter from audiences.

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