History YMMV / RudolphTheRedNosedReindeer

2nd Jan '18 5:31:02 PM danlansdowne
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** Which ending is better? Yukon striking peppermint or the elves delivering the misfit toys? The DVD version [[TakeAThirdOption includes both.]]

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** Which ending is better? Yukon striking peppermint or the elves delivering the misfit toys? The DVD version [[TakeAThirdOption includes both.]]both]] - as has at least one broadcast.
29th Dec '17 7:32:01 AM GothicProphet
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** From ''The Island of Misfit Toys'', we get [[spoiler:the Toy Taker, because he's actually a worn-out teddy bear named Mr. Cuddles, who felt like he was abandoned, but it turns out he wasn't]].

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** From ''The Island of Misfit Toys'', we get [[spoiler:the Toy Taker, because he's actually a worn-out teddy bear named Mr. Cuddles, who felt like he was abandoned, but it turns out he wasn't]].wasn't]].
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27th Dec '17 8:56:03 AM FranksGirl
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* FairForItsDay: Seeing Rudolph find acceptance AFTER the others discover that his nose could be useful can leave a modern viewer with a bad taste in their mouth. However, in the 1960s, [[UsefulNotes/{{TheHaysCode}} The Hays Code]] was still in affect, meaning that filmmakers could not show non-conforming characters in a positive light. At the time, it was radical for a mainstream family film to suggest that differences should not only be accepted, but celebrated.
27th Dec '17 3:09:27 AM FranksGirl
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27th Dec '17 3:06:42 AM FranksGirl
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* SequelDisplacement: There were adaptations before the 60s special.

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* SequelDisplacement: There were adaptations before the 60s special.
27th Dec '17 3:00:51 AM FranksGirl
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** "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer" originated with a book published in 1939 for a department store's Christmas marketing, which pre-dates the Rankin/Bass special by over twenty years, the song by ten years, and is almost forgotten. The book has little in common with the Rankin & Bass special and focuses only on Rudolph being shunned for his nose before Santa asks him to lead the reindeer team. Hermey the Elf, the Abominable Snowman, Yukon, and Clarice were all created for the Rankin & Bass special & do not appear at all in the book.
** The song is another example of this for the book. Even though it was written in 1949 by Johnny Marks, the brother-in-law of the book's author Robert May, the song was the basic inspiration & theme-music for the Rankin & Bass special, as the animators had only heard of the song.

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** "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer" originated with a book published in 1939 for a department store's Christmas marketing, which pre-dates the Rankin/Bass special by over twenty years, the song by ten years, and is almost forgotten. The book has little in common with the Rankin & Bass special and focuses only on Rudolph being shunned for his nose before Santa asks him to lead the reindeer team. Hermey the Elf, the Abominable Snowman, Yukon, and Clarice were all created for the Rankin & Bass special & do not appear at all in the book. Ask anyone if they know Rudolph, and they'll either answer with the song or the Rankin & Bass special, and be very surprised if you mention the original book.
** The song is another example of this for the book.book, by the Rankin & Bass animators. Even though it was written in 1949 by Johnny Marks, the brother-in-law of the book's author Robert May, the song was the basic inspiration & theme-music for the Rankin & Bass special, as the animators had only heard of the song.
27th Dec '17 2:58:48 AM FranksGirl
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** "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer" originated with a book published in 1939 for a department store's Christmas marketing, which pre-dates the Rankin/Bass special by over twenty years, the song by ten years, and is almost forgotten. The book has little in common with the Rankin & Bass special and focuses only on Rudolph being shunned for his nose before Santa asks him to lead the reindeer team. Harvey the Elf, the Abominable Snowman, Yukon, and Clarice were all created for the Rankin & Bass special & do not appear at all in the book.

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** "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer" originated with a book published in 1939 for a department store's Christmas marketing, which pre-dates the Rankin/Bass special by over twenty years, the song by ten years, and is almost forgotten. The book has little in common with the Rankin & Bass special and focuses only on Rudolph being shunned for his nose before Santa asks him to lead the reindeer team. Harvey Hermey the Elf, the Abominable Snowman, Yukon, and Clarice were all created for the Rankin & Bass special & do not appear at all in the book.
27th Dec '17 2:56:23 AM FranksGirl
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Santa is in fact a big jerk in the original film because he never even "liked" Rudolph (if you can call it that) until he realized that he could exploit his nose. In other words, Santa only cares about Rudolph's ''nose,'' not Rudolph.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
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Santa is in fact a big jerk in the original film because he never even "liked" Rudolph (if you can call it that) until he realized that he could exploit his nose. In other words, Santa only cares about Rudolph's ''nose,'' not Rudolph.
27th Dec '17 2:55:28 AM FranksGirl
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* AdaptationDisplacement: The Rankin/Bass special is the best remembered adaptation though it wasn't the first. An animated short by [[Creator/MaxAndDaveFleischer Max Fleischer]] was made twenty years earlier.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: AdaptationDisplacement:
** "Rudolph
The Red-Nosed Reindeer" originated with a book published in 1939 for a department store's Christmas marketing, which pre-dates the Rankin/Bass special is by over twenty years, the best remembered adaptation song by ten years, and is almost forgotten. The book has little in common with the Rankin & Bass special and focuses only on Rudolph being shunned for his nose before Santa asks him to lead the reindeer team. Harvey the Elf, the Abominable Snowman, Yukon, and Clarice were all created for the Rankin & Bass special & do not appear at all in the book.
** The song is another example of this for the book. Even
though it wasn't was written in 1949 by Johnny Marks, the first. An brother-in-law of the book's author Robert May, the song was the basic inspiration & theme-music for the Rankin & Bass special, as the animators had only heard of the song.
** The trope is averted by the first
animated short of Rudolph by [[Creator/MaxAndDaveFleischer Max Fleischer]] Fleischer]], released in 1948, which predates the Rankin & Bass special and the song. Fleischer's short is based on & true to the original book, though it was made twenty years earlier.later re-released in 1951 with the song added to its soundtrack.
27th Dec '17 2:35:09 AM FranksGirl
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* OlderThanTheyThink: This was not the first classic animated film about [[Disney/{{Dumbo}} a baby animal who was originally ridiculed and shunned for his deformity, but is then loved and accepted once it turns out to have a good use.]]
** Rudolph was a book before it became a song. Likewise, the song was not created for the 1964 special. In fact it's completely the other way around, with the ''special'' being created to promote the book and the song later based on it!

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* OlderThanTheyThink: This was not the first classic animated film about [[Disney/{{Dumbo}} a baby animal who was originally ridiculed and shunned for his deformity, but is then loved and accepted once it turns out to have a good use.]]
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** Rudolph was a book long before it became a song. Likewise, song, and even longer before the Rankin & Bass special aired. The original book, "Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer" was published in '''1939''' as Christmas marketing for Montgomery Ward, a US-based department store. The Johnny Marks song didn't come about until a decade later, in 1949, with the Rankin & Bass special not appearing until '''1964'''. The Rankin & Bass version has little to do with the original story, as the animators didn't have a copy of the book & only had the song lyrics to go by.
** The Rankin & Bass special wasn't even the first animated telling of the tale. That honor belongs to Max Fleischer in 1948, even before
the song was not created for the 1964 special. In fact it's completely the other way around, written. The Fleischer short was re-issued in 1951 with the ''special'' being created to promote the book and the song later based on it! added to the soundtrack. On top of that, DCComics issued multiple annuals retelling the story in the late '50s.
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