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** If you haven't already noticed, "[[http://web.archive.org/web/20080222224241/http://desudesudesu.net/ DESU!]]", ''desu.'' This page used to have [[OverusedRunningGag every trope ending with]] "''desu"'', after Suiseiseki's VerbalTic.

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** If you haven't already noticed, "[[http://web.archive.org/web/20080222224241/http://desudesudesu.net/ DESU!]]", ''desu.'' This page used to have [[OverusedRunningGag every trope ending with]] "''desu"'', after Suiseiseki's VerbalTic.VerbalTic is widely known to be one of the earliest (if not the earliest ''period'') anime memes to gain popularity on the global internet, with "desu" spam being recorded on various forums and imageboards around 2004 when the first anime was airing. The meme is also fondly remembered for being the first to widely spread thanks to the shenanigans of ''Website/FourChan'', a solid two years before the website got it's infamy as a [[{{Troll}} troll]] breeding ground cemented.

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* MemeticMutation: If you haven't already noticed, "[[http://web.archive.org/web/20080222224241/http://desudesudesu.net/ DESU!]]", ''desu.'' This page used to have [[OverusedRunningGag every trope ending with]] "''desu"'', after Suiseiseki's VerbalTic.

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If you haven't already noticed, "[[http://web.archive.org/web/20080222224241/http://desudesudesu.net/ DESU!]]", ''desu.'' This page used to have [[OverusedRunningGag every trope ending with]] "''desu"'', after Suiseiseki's VerbalTic.

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Foe Yay has been cut as a Trope so moving most of these examples under Foe Yay Shipping (no evidence for romantic subtext in-universe and besides that, the dolls are "related"). Moving the Kirakishou and Unwound Jun example to Villainous Crush (note: this troper is YMMV on this being the case, but yeah YMMV).


* FoeYay: Shinku and Suigintou have this going on quite a bit. Special mention goes to the opening of ''Ouverture'' opening song with the lyrics "is this hatred or love", while showing their hair swirling and knotting together.
** Kirakishou and Suigintou in the manga, with Kirakishou showing signs of a sister complex and even offering Suigintou her Rosa Mystica. [[spoiler: Though it could just as easily have been a ploy to capture Megu.]]
** Kira even plants a kiss on Hina-Ichigo, [[spoiler: though it was more for the purpose of [[BodySnatcher gaining her body]].]]
** And then there's Kirakishou and [[spoiler:adult Jun]], to the point where she even shows textbook signs of {{yandere}} for him. She attempts to torture him into choosing to be her master instead of Shinku's or Suingintou's, and then tries yet another ForcedKiss on him in a way of physically forcing him to make a contract with her (her ring was ''on her tongue''). And as if that's not bad enough, just a few seconds before, she licks and sucks on his finger in a way that's clearly meant to simulate oral sex while saying she 'wants him.' And the clincher? [[spoiler:She goes into a complete VillainousBreakdown when Adult Jun says, in no uncertain terms, that he wants nothing to do with her, causing her usually cool and 'cute' demeanor to devolve into hysterical screaming with her vines flailing all over the place.]] And she wonders why everyone she actually ''does'' want to like her can't run away from her fast enough.


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* FoeYayShipping: Shinku and Suigintou have this going on quite a bit. Special mention goes to the opening of ''Ouverture'' opening song with the lyrics "is this hatred or love", while showing their hair swirling and knotting together.
** Kirakishou and Suigintou in the manga, with Kirakishou showing signs of a sister complex and even offering Suigintou her Rosa Mystica. [[spoiler: Though it could just as easily have been a ploy to capture Megu.]]
** Kira even plants a kiss on Hina-Ichigo, [[spoiler: though it was more for the purpose of [[BodySnatcher gaining her body]].]]


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* VillainousCrush: Kirakishou and [[spoiler:adult Jun]], to the point where she even shows textbook signs of {{yandere}} for him. She attempts to torture him into choosing to be her master instead of Shinku's or Suingintou's, and then tries yet another ForcedKiss on him in a way of physically forcing him to make a contract with her (her ring was ''on her tongue''). And as if that's not bad enough, just a few seconds before, she licks and sucks on his finger in a way that's clearly meant to simulate oral sex while saying she 'wants him.' And the clincher? [[spoiler:She goes into a complete VillainousBreakdown when Adult Jun says, in no uncertain terms, that he wants nothing to do with her, causing her usually cool and 'cute' demeanor to devolve into hysterical screaming with her vines flailing all over the place.]] And she wonders why everyone she actually ''does'' want to like her can't run away from her fast enough.
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* FanNickname:
** Detractor Nickname, rather; due to her SugarAndIcePersonality behavior and somewhat pompous attitude, Shinku has been known around the Website/FourChan boards as "Tea Bitch", a reference to her TrademarkFavoriteFood: tea. "Stinku" has also been thrown around.
** The dolls tend to be nicknamed by their respective [[VerbalTic verbal tics]] or CatchPhrase. "Desu" for Suiseiseki, "Boku" for Souseiseki, [[CatchphraseInsult "Janku/Junk"]] for Suigintou, etc.
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** Unwound!Jun's boss, Yamaguchi, is a meme within the Japanese fanbase specifically for the scene where he asks forgiveness from Jun. The pose he makes while saying this is often [[https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/60582213 redrawn and parodied]].

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** Unwound!Jun's boss, Yamaguchi, is a meme within the Japanese fanbase specifically for the scene where he asks forgiveness from Jun. The pose he makes while saying this is often [[https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/60582213 net/en/artworks/50186224 redrawn and parodied]].

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* MemeticMutation / FountainOfMemes: If you haven't already noticed, "[[http://web.archive.org/web/20080222224241/http://desudesudesu.net/ DESU!]]", ''desu.'' This page used to have [[OverusedRunningGag every trope ending with]] "''desu"'', after Suiseiseki's VerbalTic.

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* MemeticMutation / FountainOfMemes: MemeticMutation: If you haven't already noticed, "[[http://web.archive.org/web/20080222224241/http://desudesudesu.net/ DESU!]]", ''desu.'' This page used to have [[OverusedRunningGag every trope ending with]] "''desu"'', after Suiseiseki's VerbalTic.VerbalTic.
** The various other verbal tics of the dolls also qualify, often times being called by their respective verbal tics.
** Referring to Kanaria as a "maidenly thug" after a particular FanSub of the 2013 anime had her refer to herself as such.
** Unwound!Jun's boss, Yamaguchi, is a meme within the Japanese fanbase specifically for the scene where he asks forgiveness from Jun. The pose he makes while saying this is often [[https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/60582213 redrawn and parodied]].
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* DieForOurShip: Jun and Rozen, so much.



** Hinaichigo and Kanaria, for their whiny, childish personalities.
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The "u" in "desu" isn't so much silent as it's usually said so quickly that it's almost barely there at all, which is how it results as typically sounding like "des".


* DiscreditedMeme: Sueseiseki ending most statements with "desu" was interpreted by Western fans as a funny VerbalTic and there are a few {{Stupid Statement Dance Mix}}es of her just saying "DESU" over and over, but it is actually a standard Japanese copula that makes a statement more polite.[[note]]It is, however, usually pronounced with a silent U; pronouncing it as written and using it as much as she does is still unusual enough to qualify as a VerbalTic.[[/note]] As the OccidentalOtaku community became more familiar with Japanese grammar in general, the meme quickly fell out of favor.

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* DiscreditedMeme: Sueseiseki Suiseiseki ending most of her statements with "desu" was interpreted by Western fans as a funny VerbalTic and there are a few VerbalTic, which led to {{Stupid Statement Dance Mix}}es of her just saying "DESU" over and over, but it is actually a standard Japanese copula that makes a statement more polite.[[note]]It is, however, usually pronounced [[note]]However, most people will say it with a silent U; the "u" quickly clipped off at the end, so it typically sounds more like "des"; pronouncing it as written and using it as much as she Suiseiseki does is still unusual enough to qualify as a VerbalTic.[[/note]] As the OccidentalOtaku community became more familiar with Japanese grammar in general, the meme quickly fell out of favor.
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* DiscreditedMeme: Sueseiseki ending most statements with "desu" was interpreted by Western fans as a VerbalTic and there are a few {{Stupid Statement Dance Mix}}es of her just saying "DESU" over and over, but it is actually a Japanese cupola that makes a statement more polite.[[note]]It is, however, usually pronounced with a silent U; pronouncing it as written and using it as much as she does still qualifies as a VerbalTic.[[/note]] As the OccidentalOtaku became more familiar with Japanese grammar in general, the meme quickly fell out of favor.

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* DiscreditedMeme: Sueseiseki ending most statements with "desu" was interpreted by Western fans as a funny VerbalTic and there are a few {{Stupid Statement Dance Mix}}es of her just saying "DESU" over and over, but it is actually a standard Japanese cupola copula that makes a statement more polite.[[note]]It is, however, usually pronounced with a silent U; pronouncing it as written and using it as much as she does is still qualifies unusual enough to qualify as a VerbalTic.[[/note]] As the OccidentalOtaku community became more familiar with Japanese grammar in general, the meme quickly fell out of favor.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Rozen as an [[AbusiveParents terrible excuse for a father-figure]], rather than the figure of utter adoration he is to the Rozen Maidens. That further breaks down into two sub-interpretations.
** Rozen as a sadistic individual who takes cruel pleasure in watching his "daughters" fight each other to the death for his love, and only intervenes as neccessary to make the game more interesting, such as giving Suigintou her Rosa Mystica after she proves willing to claw and scratch her way to hell and back in search of him, or to ensure they don't decide it's pointless and simply stop it.
** Rozen as a callous, indifferently child-like individual who regards his creations as simply that; dolls, and so fit only to do whatever he wants them to do and for his own amusement. He never finished Suigintou because he decided she wasn't interesting enough, and he makes them fight the Alice Games because it's fun and, hey, they're only dolls, what does it matter if they kill each other?
** This attitude has more or less vanished, thanks to TheReveal from the manga that [[spoiler: Rozen basically went off the deep end before he set up the Alice Games, but has since regained his sanity and wants to stop them... but has lost so much power that he basically ''can't do so''.]]

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Rozen as an [[AbusiveParents terrible excuse for a father-figure]], rather than the figure of utter adoration he is to the Rozen Maidens. That further breaks down into two sub-interpretations.
** *** Rozen as a sadistic individual who takes cruel pleasure in watching his "daughters" fight each other to the death for his love, and only intervenes as neccessary to make the game more interesting, such as giving Suigintou her Rosa Mystica after she proves willing to claw and scratch her way to hell and back in search of him, or to ensure they don't decide it's pointless and simply stop it.
** *** Rozen as a callous, indifferently child-like individual who regards his creations as simply that; dolls, and so fit only to do whatever he wants them to do and for his own amusement. He never finished Suigintou because he decided she wasn't interesting enough, and he makes them fight the Alice Games because it's fun and, hey, they're only dolls, what does it matter if they kill each other?
** *** This attitude has more or less vanished, thanks to TheReveal from the manga that [[spoiler: Rozen basically went off the deep end before he set up the Alice Games, but has since regained his sanity and wants to stop them... but has lost so much power that he basically ''can't do so''.]]



** In general, [[Manga/RozenMaiden manga canon]] vs [[Anime/RozenMaiden NOMAD anime]] canon tends to be this. The two are so inherently different it's like comparing apples to oranges.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Suiseiseki reached [[WatchItForTheMeme memetic status]] with her "desu" VerbalTic, and became one of the main reasons a lot of people even watched the show to begin with.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: DracoInLeatherPants: Suigintou, especially regarding the 2004 anime continuity. Fans latched onto her FreudianExcuse of being incomplete to handwave some of the violent actions she's inflicted on other characters. It seems even some members of ''Studio NOMAD itself'' had this reaction to her character, as the OVA turned her into [[TheWoobie a woobie]] and turned [[TheHero Shinku]] into the DesignatedVillain.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
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Suiseiseki reached [[WatchItForTheMeme memetic status]] with her "desu" VerbalTic, and became one of the main reasons a lot of people even watched the show to begin with.



** Tefuko. She's the first doll in the series to have a Japanese-oriented design and she has a cute, semi-sentient personality. She easily had the most art made out of all the characters who debuted in Rozen Maiden 0.



* LauncherOfAThousandShips:
** Jun, despite being just 14, has been shipped with nearly the entire cast it seems. There's [[CargoShip Shinku, Suiseiseki, Souseiseki]], [[ChildhoodFriend Tomoe]], [[FoeYayShipping Suigintou, Megu, and Kirakishou]] as usual examples.
** Souseiseki is usually shipped with [[{{Twincest}} her twin sister,]] [[IncestYayShipping Suiseiseki]], but has been shipped with a good chunk of the rest of the cast. She's been shipped with ''all'' of the rest of [[IncestYayShipping her sisters]], ''both'' Juns, [[UnresolvedSexualTension Hana]], and most of her other masters.



* NightmareFuel: How Kirakishou [[spoiler: takes Hina-Ichigo's body]] in the manga.

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* NightmareFuel: How Kirakishou [[spoiler: takes Hina-Ichigo's Hinaichigo's body]] in the manga.


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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: ''Rozen Maiden 0''. [[spoiler: The beginning sets up an interesting premise regarding the mystery of a Zeroth Rozen Maiden doll and another mystery involving the kidnapping of children. The 24 chapter length of the manga compresses a lot down and dampens the emotional impact of events. Character interaction and introspection also takes a backseat when it was so important in previous ''Rozen Maiden'' manga.]]

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* AudienceColoringAdaptation: Studio NOMAD's [[Anime/RozenMaiden 2004 anime adaption]]. To people in and out of the fanbase, it ''is'' Rozen Maiden even though it is an entirely different story compared to the manga it supposedly adapts. Studio NOMAD wrote a new louder, action-packed story compared to the quieter, introspective manga.



* ContinuityLockOut: The franchise spans 3 manga serializations, 4 lightnovels, 2 anime adaptions, and countless other forms of supplementary material. Ignoring NOMAD's anime adaption, starting at anywhere ''but'' the original manga is incredibly prone to this happening. The biggest example is the 2008 manga and Creator/StudioDEEN's anime adaption of it, as in both cases it is ''required'' to have read the original manga to understand the story, as both pieces of media directly continue that story.



** Unwound!Jun's boss, [[MeanBoss Yamaguchi]], is this for some fans. In particular, the scene where he [[spoiler: asks Jun to forgive him for all the responsibilities he's piled on him after Yamaguchi overhears the regional manager considering replacing him with Jun]] is a minor meme. He's even had fan-made merchandise made of him.



* ToyShip / CargoShip: Between [[LesYay the dolls]]. And sometimes, Jun ''and'' one of the dolls. Especially Shinku.

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* ToyShip / CargoShip: Between [[LesYay the the]] [[IncestYayShipping dolls]]. And sometimes, Jun ''and'' one of the dolls. Especially Shinku.
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* DiscreditedMeme: Sueseiseki ending most statements with "desu" was interpreted by Western fans as a VerbalTic and there are a few {{Stupid Statement Dance Mix}}es of her just saying "DESU" over and over, but it is actually a Japanese cupola that makes a statement more polite.[[note]]It is, however, usually pronounced with a silent U; pronouncing it as written still qualifies as a VerbalTic.[[/note]] As the OccidentalOtaku became more familiar with Japanese grammar in general, the meme quickly fell out of favor.

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* DiscreditedMeme: Sueseiseki ending most statements with "desu" was interpreted by Western fans as a VerbalTic and there are a few {{Stupid Statement Dance Mix}}es of her just saying "DESU" over and over, but it is actually a Japanese cupola that makes a statement more polite.[[note]]It is, however, usually pronounced with a silent U; pronouncing it as written and using it as much as she does still qualifies as a VerbalTic.[[/note]] As the OccidentalOtaku became more familiar with Japanese grammar in general, the meme quickly fell out of favor.
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** Nori also gets this regarding her [[PantyThief bizarre ideas]] of what boys Jun's age should be interested in. Within the fanbase, this leads to assumptions of BrotherSisterIncest regarding her feelings on Jun.


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* DistaffCounterpart: Take ''Manga/ZatchBell''. Switch demon children for cursed dolls. Switch Spellbook for Rosa Mystica. Switch 'become king' for 'become Alice'. Switch 'teen genius' for 'teen loser'. Notice a pattern yet? Be ready for serious mamodo deja vu, if you plan on watching this.
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** Suiseiseki won both the 2006 Anime Saimoe tournament and the 2006 Korea Best Moe tournament.
** Souseiseki was the runner-up of the 2005 Anime Saimoe tournament.

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** Kirakishou. She is, as much as the other dolls, a victim of Rozen's blind desire for Alice and maybe she had it worse; Rozen just made her as an astral doll without body, unable to ever get a master or even get out of the N-Field and abandoned her as he did with the others, but she was completely alone and that make her insane, to the point of ''not even caring about her own Rosa Mystica and the Alice Game at all''. This troper almost [[SympathyForTheDevil wanted to hug the little crazy bitch]] when she cried about how badly she wants a body.
-->'''Kirakishou:''' I want a body. Hinaichigo's purity, Kanaria's loveliness, Shinku's nobility, Suigintou's elegance, Suiseiseki's passion, Souseiseki's pain...
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** Kirakishou. She is, as much as the other dolls, a victim of Rozen's blind desire for Alice and maybe she had it worse; Rozen just made her as an astral doll without body, unable to ever get a master or even get out of the N-Field and abandoned her as he did with the others, but she was completely alone and that make her insane, to the point of ''not even caring about her own Rosa Mystica and the Alice Game at all''. This troper almost [[SympathyForTheDevil wanted to hug the little crazy bitch]] when she cried about how badly she wants a body.\n-->'''Kirakishou:''' I want a body. Hinaichigo's purity, Kanaria's loveliness, Shinku's nobility, Suigintou's elegance, Suiseiseki's passion, Souseiseki's pain...\n-----
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* JustForFun/XMeetsY: Literature/{{Pinocchio}} + Franchise/{{Highlander}}, ''[[MemeticMutation desu]]'' (like [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/highlander_chibi2_1700.jpg this]]).
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* JustForFun/XMeetsY: Literature/{{Pinocchio}} + Franchise/{{Highlander}}, ''[[MemeticMutation desu]]'' (like [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/highlander_chibi2_1700.jpg this]]).
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** Kirakishou. She is, as much as the other dolls, a victim of Rozen's blind desire for Alice and maybe she had it worse; Rozen just make her as an astral doll without body, unable to ever get a master or even get out of the N-Field and abandoned her as he did with the others, but she was completely alone and that make her insane, to the point of ''not even caring about her own Rosa Mystica and the Alice Game at all''. This troper almost [[SympathyForTheDevil wanted to hug the little crazy bitch]] when she cried about how badly she wants a body.

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** Kirakishou. She is, as much as the other dolls, a victim of Rozen's blind desire for Alice and maybe she had it worse; Rozen just make made her as an astral doll without body, unable to ever get a master or even get out of the N-Field and abandoned her as he did with the others, but she was completely alone and that make her insane, to the point of ''not even caring about her own Rosa Mystica and the Alice Game at all''. This troper almost [[SympathyForTheDevil wanted to hug the little crazy bitch]] when she cried about how badly she wants a body.



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* DiscreditedMeme: Sueseiseki ending most statements with "desu" was interpreted by Western fans as a VerbalTic and there are a few {{Stupid Statement Dance Mix}}es of her just saying "DESU" over and over, but it is actually a Japanese cupola that makes a statement more polite.[[note]]It is, however, usually pronounced with a silent U; pronouncing it as written still qualifies as a VerbalTic.[[/note]] As the OccidentalOtaku became more familiar with Japanese grammar in general, the meme quickly fell out of favor.

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* TheScrappy: Hinaichigo and Kanaria, for those who [[ChildHater don't like kids]].
** Shinku sometimes gets this, due to her largely Tsun {{Tsundere}} personality, and her treatment of Suigintou.
** And contrary to the above, Suigintou for those who don't find her to be an EnsembleDarkhorse and/or see her as an abusive bitch whose FreudianExcuse doesn't quite cut it.
** Suiseiseki for some, particularly those who are sick of her catchphrase.
** Also Jun and Rozen.

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Hinaichigo and Kanaria, for those who [[ChildHater don't like kids]].
** Shinku sometimes gets this, due to her largely Tsun {{Tsundere}} personality, and her treatment of Suigintou.
** And contrary to the above, Suigintou for those who don't find her to be an EnsembleDarkhorse and/or see her as an abusive bitch whose FreudianExcuse doesn't quite cut it.
** Suiseiseki for some, particularly those who are sick of her catchphrase.
** Also Jun and Rozen.
their whiny, childish personalities.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Suiseiseki reached [[WatchItForTheMeme memetic status]] with her "desu" VerbalTic, and became one of the main reasons a lot of people even watched the show to begin with.

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* AlasPoorScrappy: Even if you're a ChildHater and considered [[spoiler:Hinaichigo]] TheScrappy, you'll cry in the anime and drop the manga in shock.

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* AlasPoorScrappy: Even if you're a ChildHater and considered AlasPoorScrappy:
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[[spoiler:Hinaichigo]] TheScrappy, you'll cry in the anime second season of Rozen Maiden. There was a whole episode dedicated to her winding down to her eventual 'death' where she spent the day with her old owner, complete with stuttered movement and drop speech during her last moments.
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the manga in shock.manga, however, was horrifying: Kirakishou used her rose vines to destroy and consume her from the inside out. Still sad.



** The sentiment that Rozen Maiden is in any way colourful, bright and a kind of MagicalGirl series is also completely off-mark. This is a series where 7 sisters fight across the entire multiverse in a free for all battle to kill each other, just to appeal to a god-like father figure. How could that end in anything but bloodshed and tears?

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** The sentiment that Rozen Maiden is in any way colourful, bright and a kind of MagicalGirl series is also completely off-mark. This is a series where 7 sisters fight across the entire multiverse in a free for all battle to kill each other, just to appeal to a god-like father figure. How could that end in anything but bloodshed and tears?



*** Kira even plants a kiss on Hina-Ichigo, [[spoiler: though it was more for the purpose of [[BodySnatcher gaining her body]].]]
*** And then there's Kirakishou and [[spoiler:Adult Jun]], to the point where she even shows textbook signs of {{yandere}} for him. She attempts to torture him into choosing to be her master instead of Shinku's or Suingintou's, and then tries yet another ForcedKiss on him in a way of physically forcing him to make a contract with her (her ring was ''on her tongue''). And as if that's not bad enough, just a few seconds before, she licks and sucks on his finger in a way that's clearly meant to simulate oral sex while saying she 'wants him.' And the clincher? [[spoiler:She goes into a complete VillainousBreakdown when Adult Jun says, in no uncertain terms, that he wants nothing to do with her, causing her usually cool and 'cute' demeanor to devolve into hysterical screaming with her vines flailing all over the place.]] And she wonders why everyone she actually ''does'' want to like her can't run away from her fast enough.

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*** ** Kira even plants a kiss on Hina-Ichigo, [[spoiler: though it was more for the purpose of [[BodySnatcher gaining her body]].]]
*** ** And then there's Kirakishou and [[spoiler:Adult [[spoiler:adult Jun]], to the point where she even shows textbook signs of {{yandere}} for him. She attempts to torture him into choosing to be her master instead of Shinku's or Suingintou's, and then tries yet another ForcedKiss on him in a way of physically forcing him to make a contract with her (her ring was ''on her tongue''). And as if that's not bad enough, just a few seconds before, she licks and sucks on his finger in a way that's clearly meant to simulate oral sex while saying she 'wants him.' And the clincher? [[spoiler:She goes into a complete VillainousBreakdown when Adult Jun says, in no uncertain terms, that he wants nothing to do with her, causing her usually cool and 'cute' demeanor to devolve into hysterical screaming with her vines flailing all over the place.]] And she wonders why everyone she actually ''does'' want to like her can't run away from her fast enough.

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* EvilIsSexy: Suigintou.

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* TheWoobie: Suigintou in ''Ouverture'', Suiseiseki in ''Träumend''.
** This troper can't stop feeling bad for Kirakishou. She is, as much as the other dolls, a victim of Rozen's blind desire for Alice and maybe she had it worse; Rozen just make her as an astral doll without body, unable to ever get a master or even get out of the N-Field and abandoned her as he did with the others, but she was completely alone and that make her insane, to the point of ''not even caring about her own Rosa Mystica and the Alice Game at all''. This troper almost [[SympathyForTheDevil wanted to hug the little crazy bitch]] when she cried about how badly she wants a body.

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Suigintou in ''Ouverture'', Suiseiseki in ''Träumend''.
** This troper can't stop feeling bad for Kirakishou. She is, as much as the other dolls, a victim of Rozen's blind desire for Alice and maybe she had it worse; Rozen just make her as an astral doll without body, unable to ever get a master or even get out of the N-Field and abandoned her as he did with the others, but she was completely alone and that make her insane, to the point of ''not even caring about her own Rosa Mystica and the Alice Game at all''. This troper almost [[SympathyForTheDevil wanted to hug the little crazy bitch]] when she cried about how badly she wants a body.
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** This is partially caused by the fact that Zurückspulen is produced by StudioDEEN instead of Nomad, who made the original anime. Detractors of the new anime hate the fact that what is widely regarded as TheScrappy studio of the entire anime industry took over the show, while supporters firmly believe [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap that Zurückspulen in itself has managed to redeem Studio DEEN]]. This in addition to the style differences mentioned above.

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** This is partially caused by the fact that Zurückspulen is produced by StudioDEEN Creator/StudioDEEN instead of Nomad, who made the original anime. Detractors of the new anime hate the fact that what is widely regarded as TheScrappy studio of the entire anime industry took over the show, while supporters firmly believe [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap that Zurückspulen in itself has managed to redeem Studio DEEN]]. This in addition to the style differences mentioned above.



* HilariousInHindsight: Suiseiseki was voiced by Creator/NanaMizuki in the Drama [=CDs=]. NatsukoKuwatani is TheOtherDarrin and better known for playing her. Both of them plays characters from ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha''. Creator/NanaMizuki is Fate Testarossa who has [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Arf/Alph]], played by NatsukoKuwatani, as her familiar (a beast guardian).

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* HilariousInHindsight: Suiseiseki was voiced by Creator/NanaMizuki in the Drama [=CDs=]. NatsukoKuwatani Creator/NatsukoKuwatani is TheOtherDarrin and better known for playing her. Both of them plays characters from ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha''. Creator/NanaMizuki is Fate Testarossa who has [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Arf/Alph]], played by NatsukoKuwatani, Creator/NatsukoKuwatani, as her familiar (a beast guardian).
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* FanFavorite: Suiseiseki and Suigintou.



** No longer as of the most recent arc of Tales [[spoiler:with Rozen seemingly coming back and finally selecting a doll to be Alice: Kirakishou]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: Suiseiseki was voiced by NanaMizuki in the Drama [=CDs=]. NatsukoKuwatani is TheOtherDarrin and better known for playing her. Both of them plays characters from ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha''. NanaMizuki is Fate Testarossa who has [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Arf/Alph]], played by NatsukoKuwatani, as her familiar (a beast guardian).

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* HilariousInHindsight: Suiseiseki was voiced by NanaMizuki Creator/NanaMizuki in the Drama [=CDs=]. NatsukoKuwatani is TheOtherDarrin and better known for playing her. Both of them plays characters from ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha''. NanaMizuki Creator/NanaMizuki is Fate Testarossa who has [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Arf/Alph]], played by NatsukoKuwatani, as her familiar (a beast guardian).
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Suiseiseki and Suigintou.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: FanFavorite: Suiseiseki and Suigintou.
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** This attitude has more or less vanished, thanks to TheReveal from the manga that [[spoiler: Rozen basically went off the deep end before he set up the Alice Games, but has since regained his sanity and wants to stop them... but has lost so much power that he basically ''can't do so''.]]
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** Kirakishou as well, for those who are into [[{{Yandere}} that kind of thing]].
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** The sentiment that Rozen Maiden is in any way colourful, bright and a kind of MagicalGirl series is also completely off-mark. This is a series where 7 sisters fight across the entire multiverse in a free for all battle to kill each other, just to appeal to a god-like father figure. How could that end in anything but bloodshed and tears?

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