History YMMV / RedDeadRedemption

20th Dec '16 3:31:52 PM Lancelot07
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* {{Narm}}: When you unlock the Bandito outfit, it enables you to wear a large sombrero which can be rather comical looking, specially if you have John wear it during missions with serious discussions.

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** At the end of the game, [[spoiler:there's a timeskip of three years, making Jack older as he goes to revenge his father. Because of giving him the same character model as John Marston, however, added with a bearded face, Jack looks like he's aged about 15 years instead of only three.]]
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When you unlock the Bandito outfit, it enables you to wear a large sombrero which can be rather comical looking, specially if you have John wear it during missions with serious discussions.
27th Nov '16 8:41:42 AM xelldx
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite John himself being portrayed as a sympathetic character, one might have this reaction to this game, seeing as very few of his good deeds go unpunished. The only sympathetic character of all of the cast who didn't get apathetic is Jack, John's son. [[spoiler:But by the time the game's ending came around, he just became as bad as John himself after he killed Ross, and basically became the very man John didn't want him to become.]]

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite John himself being portrayed as a sympathetic character, one might have this reaction to this game, seeing as very few of his good deeds go unpunished. The only sympathetic character of all of the cast who didn't get apathetic is Jack, John's son. [[spoiler:But by the time the game's ending came around, he just became as bad as John himself after he killed Ross, and basically became the very man John didn't want him to become. One can only hope the sequel can have a flicker of light pierce this trope.]]
26th Nov '16 10:24:00 AM RobbSony3
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* MoralEventHorizon: For most of his screentime in the game, Edgar Ross merely seems to be a [[JerkAss snide asshole]] of a KnightTemplar who is holding John's family hostage to force him into hunting down his former gang members. He's definitely unlikable (if [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned for the most part]]), but after John has lived up to his end of the bargain, Ross finally allows him to return to his family. [[spoiler:However, he's not quite done yet, and [[YankTheDogsChain after leaving the Marstons alone for some time]], he goes back on his word and sends the Army to kill John. ''And they do''. As John takes his last, ragged breaths, Ross just lights a cigar and watches, with a smug grin on his face.]] Ross was definitely intended to be disliked, but this made many a player despise him so much that [[spoiler:they not only killed Ross in the PlayableEpilogue, but his innocent brother and wife as well.]]

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For most of his screentime in the game, Edgar Ross merely seems to be a [[JerkAss snide asshole]] of a KnightTemplar who is holding John's family hostage to force him into hunting down his former gang members. He's definitely unlikable (if [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned for the most part]]), but after John has lived up to his end of the bargain, Ross finally allows him to return to his family. [[spoiler:However, he's not quite done yet, and [[YankTheDogsChain after leaving the Marstons alone for some time]], he goes back on his word and sends the Army to kill John. ''And they do''. As John takes his last, ragged breaths, Ross just lights a cigar and watches, with a smug grin on his face.]] Ross was definitely intended to be disliked, but this made many a player despise him so much that [[spoiler:they not only killed Ross in the PlayableEpilogue, but his innocent brother and wife as well.]]]]
** Colonel Agustin Allende crosses the line between keeping his regime and [[ForTheEvulz outright sadism]]. However, [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil his most depraved act]] is frequently having women abducted and sent to his villa so that he can rape them.
16th Nov '16 9:24:18 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Plenty. Mostly centering around [[CowboyCop Agent]] [[KnightTemplar Edgar]] [[ShootTheDog Ross.]]

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Plenty. Mostly centering around [[CowboyCop Agent]] [[KnightTemplar Edgar]] [[ShootTheDog Ross.]]
16th Nov '16 3:44:57 PM Peridonyx
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Quite a few players feel this way toward [[spoiler:Ross]] during the epilogue mission "Remember My Family." It tries to convey a NotSoDifferent side to him via [[spoiler:his wife and brother]]. But if anything, it only makes said players hate him even more, feeling like it only gives him extra {{Hypocrite}} points regarding [[spoiler:all of his horrible treatment toward John's own innocent family]] -- to the point where some, if not most, of said players have actually decided to [[spoiler:kill said wife and brother]] to make [[spoiler:Ross]] feel the same pain that he uncaringly caused [[spoiler:Jack]].
16th Nov '16 3:18:08 AM ACW
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** [[ColonelKilgore Colonel]] [[EvilOverlord Agustin]] [[TheCaligula Allende]] of the corrupt Mexican regime, despite being from peasant stock himself, brutalizes the common people. Allende uses violence as a common tactic, with executions being common. His economic policy is to keep the people poor, starving and without hope. He also routinely has girls abducted to serve as sex slaves for himself or his men.

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** [[ColonelKilgore **[[TheGeneralissimo Colonel]] [[EvilOverlord Agustin]] [[TheCaligula Agustin [[ArcVillain Allende]] of is the [[AntagonisticGovernor cruel and corrupt Mexican regime, despite being governor]] of Nuevo Paraiso. Though Allende comes from peasant stock himself, once in power he becomes an [[TheCaligula oppressive dictator]] who brutalizes the common people. Allende uses violence as a common tactic, with executions being common. His economic policy is to keep the people he rules over, keeping them poor, starving and without hope. He also routinely has girls One of Allende’s darker pleasures is frequently having women abducted and sent to serve as sex slaves his villa so that [[SerialRapist he can rape them]]. After [[PlayerCharacter John Marston]] arrives in Mexico while trying to hunt down two members of his old gang, Allende promises to help him in return for himself or his men.services. Allende uses Marston as a tool in his war against the rebels opposing his rule, regularly sending a reluctant Marston out to kill them, including one instance where Marston has to burn down their village of Tesoro Azul. Unfortunately for John, Allende had not only never planned on upholding his end of the bargain, he had actually been harboring the outlaws John was hunting, and tries to have John executed [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness once he’s outlived his usefulness.]] While he hides behind a [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist façade of good intentions]], in reality Allende is a [[TheHedonist depraved hedonist]] who [[ItsAllAboutMe only cares about himself]].
14th Nov '16 12:24:13 AM KingClark
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** [[ManlyTears Not afraid to admit it, friend.]]
14th Nov '16 12:23:42 AM KingClark
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** Captain [=DeSanta=]. Pure {{Jerkass}} or just a coward with some redeeming sides, only not brave enough to against Allende's orders? [[spoiler: The latter would be supported by the beginning of the mission "Cowards Die Many Times", where he is shown hesitating at first when Allende orders him to go with Marston (with the intent to have [=DeSanta=] betray him).]] Also, his earlier comments on Abraham Reyes [[spoiler: turns out to be completely true and not just some mean spirited insults that Allende's words on the rebels lean more towards. Though considering that said reluctance [=DeSanta=] shows when being told to betray Marston would indeed indicate that a part of him did like the guy, but in the end his blind admiration for Allende outdid any hesitation.]]
* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler: Dutch]], and really, The Big Three all qualify. [[spoiler: Bill]] is handed over to you by the resident Evil General in Mexico, and [[spoiler: Escuella]] only manages to flee for a few minutes before you catch or kill him. Even [[spoiler: Dutch]] throws himself off a cliff after a brief chase sequence. If you discount [[spoiler: Ross']] final duel, the game doesn't have any bosses at all, really.

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** Captain [=DeSanta=]. Pure {{Jerkass}} or just a coward with some redeeming sides, only not brave enough to against Allende's orders? [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The latter would be supported by the beginning of the mission "Cowards Die Many Times", where he is shown hesitating at first when Allende orders him to go with Marston (with the intent to have [=DeSanta=] betray him).]] Also, his earlier comments on Abraham Reyes [[spoiler: turns [[spoiler:turns out to be completely true and not just some mean spirited insults that Allende's words on the rebels lean more towards. Though considering that said reluctance [=DeSanta=] shows when being told to betray Marston would indeed indicate that a part of him did like the guy, but in the end his blind admiration for Allende outdid any hesitation.]]
* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler: Dutch]], [[spoiler:Dutch]], and really, The Big Three all qualify. [[spoiler: Bill]] [[spoiler:Bill]] is handed over to you by the resident Evil General in Mexico, and [[spoiler: Escuella]] [[spoiler:Escuella]] only manages to flee for a few minutes before you catch or kill him. Even [[spoiler: Dutch]] [[spoiler:Dutch]] throws himself off a cliff after a brief chase sequence. If you discount [[spoiler: Ross']] [[spoiler:Ross']] final duel, the game doesn't have any bosses at all, really.



** "Compass" playing as John [[spoiler: makes his way back to his family.]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg-yC0xcI9s "Triggernometry"]] [[spoiler: Which plays as John and Uncle fight off the U.S. Army in a last stand.]]

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** "Compass" playing as John [[spoiler: makes [[spoiler:makes his way back to his family.]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg-yC0xcI9s "Triggernometry"]] [[spoiler: Which [[spoiler:Which plays as John and Uncle fight off the U.S. Army in a last stand.]]



* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite John himself being portrayed as a sympathetic character, one might have this reaction to this game, seeing as very few of his good deeds go unpunished. The only sympathetic character of all of the cast who didn't get apathetic is Jack, John's son. [[spoiler:But by the time the game's ending came around, he just became as bad as John himself after he killed Ross, basically became the very man John didn't want him to become.]]

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Despite John himself being portrayed as a sympathetic character, one might have this reaction to this game, seeing as very few of his good deeds go unpunished. The only sympathetic character of all of the cast who didn't get apathetic is Jack, John's son. [[spoiler:But by the time the game's ending came around, he just became as bad as John himself after he killed Ross, and basically became the very man John didn't want him to become.]]



* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler: John Marston dies.]]

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* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler: John [[spoiler:John Marston dies.]]



* MoralEventHorizon: For most of his screentime in the game, Edgar Ross merely seems to be a [[JerkAss snide asshole]] of a KnightTemplar who is holding John's family hostage to force him into hunting down his former gang members. He's definitely unlikable (if [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned for the most part]]), but after John has lived up to his end of the bargain, Ross finally allows him to return to his family. [[spoiler: However, he's not quite done yet, and [[YankTheDogsChain after leaving the Marstons alone for some time]], he goes back on his word and sends the Army to kill John. ''And they do''. As John takes his last, ragged breaths, Ross just lights a cigar and watches, with a smug grin on his face.]] Ross was definitely intended to be disliked, but this made many a player despise him so much that [[spoiler: they not only killed Ross in the PlayableEpilogue, but his innocent brother and wife as well.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: For most of his screentime in the game, Edgar Ross merely seems to be a [[JerkAss snide asshole]] of a KnightTemplar who is holding John's family hostage to force him into hunting down his former gang members. He's definitely unlikable (if [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned for the most part]]), but after John has lived up to his end of the bargain, Ross finally allows him to return to his family. [[spoiler: However, [[spoiler:However, he's not quite done yet, and [[YankTheDogsChain after leaving the Marstons alone for some time]], he goes back on his word and sends the Army to kill John. ''And they do''. As John takes his last, ragged breaths, Ross just lights a cigar and watches, with a smug grin on his face.]] Ross was definitely intended to be disliked, but this made many a player despise him so much that [[spoiler: they [[spoiler:they not only killed Ross in the PlayableEpilogue, but his innocent brother and wife as well.]]



** [[spoiler: Jack Marston is considered this in some internet communities. For one thing because he's an annoying kid, and for another because his missions take place in the mountains, which are crawling with bears and cougars. Oh, and because he [[ReplacementScrappy takes over as the main character when you finish the story]], with no way to play as John Marston again outside of loading an old save or starting a new game.]]
** And while many consider Herbert Moon the EnsembleDarkHorse, many hate him to an extent that they consider him this. He is truly the love him or hate him character of Red Dead Redemption. [[spoiler: He makes a return in Undead Nightmare to show us more of what we love about him, his homophobic, antisemetic, xenophobic, sexist and racist attitudes. Then you get to see zombies eat him.]]

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** [[spoiler: Jack [[spoiler:Jack Marston is considered this in some internet communities. For one thing because he's an annoying kid, and for another because his missions take place in the mountains, which are crawling with bears and cougars. Oh, and because he [[ReplacementScrappy takes over as the main character when you finish the story]], with no way to play as John Marston again outside of loading an old save or starting a new game.]]
** And while many consider Herbert Moon the EnsembleDarkHorse, many hate him to an extent that they consider him this. He is truly the love him or hate him character of Red Dead Redemption. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He makes a return in Undead Nightmare to show us more of what we love about him, his homophobic, antisemetic, xenophobic, sexist and racist attitudes. Then you get to see zombies eat him.]]



** [[spoiler: The entire Marston family. And the only surviving member, Jack, is a depressed loner whose dialogue expresses that he doesn't have much to live for and rarely says anything optimistic. All his dreams of making something of himself and becoming a writer are gone. His act of revenge towards Edgar Ross puts him on the path towards being an outlaw that his father died trying to ensure wouldn't happen. DownerEnding, no matter which way you look at it.]]


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** [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The entire Marston family. And the only surviving member, Jack, is a depressed loner whose dialogue expresses that he doesn't have much to live for and rarely says anything optimistic. All his dreams of making something of himself and becoming a writer are gone. His act of revenge towards Edgar Ross puts him on the path towards being an outlaw that his father died trying to ensure wouldn't happen. DownerEnding, no matter which way you look at it.]]

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3rd Nov '16 2:53:17 PM marston
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* HesJustHiding: [[spoiler:Dutch Van Der Linde.]]
29th Oct '16 10:15:14 PM theenglishman
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** [[BlatantLies Leaked Red Dead Redemption 2 screenshot.]][[labelnote:Explanation]]Ever since ''Red Dead Redemption'''s sequel was announced (and no other information provided other than the fact that it's being made), it's become a common ImageMacro to proclaim that a screenshot from another western is actually from ''Red Dead Redemption 2'' - usually something silly from the likes of ''Film/BlazingSaddles'' or ''VideoGame/TheTownWithNoName''.[[/labelnote]]
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