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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Listen to this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKtYqh7VDEo score.]] Now listen to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i139Ew6mMFM one.]] If you're wondering which one came first the answer is ''Film/Leviathan1989''. (the OVA came out in 1990, the film came out the year before. Plus ''Leviathan's'' composer was none other than [[Music/JerryGoldsmith Jerry freakin' Goldsmith]]. Do the math.)

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Listen to this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKtYqh7VDEo score.]] Now listen to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i139Ew6mMFM [[https://youtu.be/GZEoHv0k6Zg?si=CQGCJlI-t2eqavlY one.]] If you're wondering which one came first the answer is ''Film/Leviathan1989''. (the OVA came out in 1990, the film came out the year before. Plus ''Leviathan's'' composer was none other than [[Music/JerryGoldsmith Jerry freakin' Goldsmith]]. Do the math.)
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* EvilIsSexy: Leylia being possessed by Karla.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The original 1990 OVA is known for its beautiful painterly artwork, especially how Deedlit and [[SceneryPorn the backgrounds]] are drawn.

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* NotBadassEnoughForFans: Deedlit in the OVA is regarded a FauxActionGirl because she doesn't have any shining moments in combat. However, she gets a lot done with shamanistic magic ''outside'' of combat: finding a way out of a trap in the pilot, guiding the group through the Forest Of No Return, protecting them from the hot air vents in the ancient fire dragon's lair, and guiding the others to Parm's location after he gets his ass handed to him by Wagnard.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: In the ''Legend of Crystania'' OVA, Redon's father is approached by someone asking him to oppose an evil chancellor, who then sends out people who [[YouKilledMyFather kill him]]. Not only is this his only contribution in the whole series, he's [[TheGhost never even onscreen]].
* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Deedlit in the OVA is regarded a FauxActionGirl because she doesn't have any shining moments in combat. However, she gets a lot done with shamanistic magic ''outside'' of combat: finding a way out of a trap in the pilot, guiding the group through the Forest Of No Return, protecting them from the hot air vents in the ancient fire dragon's lair, and guiding the others to Parm's location after he gets his ass handed to him by Wagnard.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: In the ''Legend of Crystania'' OVA, Redon's father is approached by someone asking him to oppose an evil chancellor, who then sends out people who [[YouKilledMyFather kill him]]. Not only is this his only contribution in the whole series, he's [[TheGhost never even onscreen]]. \n* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Deedlit in the OVA is regarded a FauxActionGirl because she doesn't have any shining moments in combat. However, she gets a lot done with shamanistic magic ''outside'' of combat: finding a way out of a trap in the pilot, guiding the group through the Forest Of No Return, protecting them from the hot air vents in the ancient fire dragon's lair, and guiding the others to Parm's location after he gets his ass handed to him by Wagnard.
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** Also, needless to say, the final five episodes of the OVA were ''very'' controversial in Japan when they were first released, because they heavily compressed the other two ActualPlay arcs into adventures that Parn's party got to go on, when originally they were entire adventures featuring entirely new casts. Orson and Shiris from the second party made the jump over to be part of Team Parn (to effectively replace [[spoiler:Ghim after his death and Wood Chuck after his "abduction"]]) but the entirety of Spark's party ended up adapted out completely, which lead to a lot of bent noses (especially from folks who wanted to see Neese The Younger and Leaf animated). The general dissatisfaction with how it turned out was a major catalyst for ''Chronicles of the Heroic Knight'' coming to be, almost a decade later.

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** Also, needless to say, the final five episodes of the OVA were ''very'' controversial in Japan when they were first released, because they heavily compressed the other two ActualPlay arcs into adventures that Parn's party got to go on, when originally they were entire adventures featuring entirely new casts. Orson and Shiris from the second party made the jump over to be part of Team Parn (to effectively replace [[spoiler:Ghim after his death and Wood Chuck after his "abduction"]]) but the entirety of Spark's party ended up adapted out completely, which lead to a lot of bent noses (especially from folks who wanted to see Neese The Younger and Leaf animated). The general dissatisfaction with how it turned out was a major catalyst for ''Chronicles of the Heroic Knight'' coming to be, almost a decade later. This whole situation was virtually invisible to the anglophone fandom, meanwhile, since the OVA arrived years after its initial release and the nascent nature of the Internet meant a lot of fandom troubles didn't end up going international.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: In a hilarious reminder that this trope is older than a lot of tropers, this was evidently an early reaction to the Parn/Deedlit romance in Japan - the original ActualPlay series did ''not'' feature any such romance, and was an invention of DM-cum-novelizer Ryo Mizuno. However, the sheer weight of the adaptations (as well as the anglosphere getting all the adaptations decades ahead of the AP) has rendered this a barely-remembered footnote among the fandom.

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In a hilarious reminder that this trope is older than a lot of tropers, this was evidently an early reaction to the Parn/Deedlit romance in Japan - the original ActualPlay series did ''not'' feature any such romance, and was an invention of DM-cum-novelizer Ryo Mizuno. However, the sheer weight of the adaptations (as well as the anglosphere getting all the adaptations decades ahead of the AP) has rendered this a barely-remembered footnote among the fandom.fandom.
** Also, needless to say, the final five episodes of the OVA were ''very'' controversial in Japan when they were first released, because they heavily compressed the other two ActualPlay arcs into adventures that Parn's party got to go on, when originally they were entire adventures featuring entirely new casts. Orson and Shiris from the second party made the jump over to be part of Team Parn (to effectively replace [[spoiler:Ghim after his death and Wood Chuck after his "abduction"]]) but the entirety of Spark's party ended up adapted out completely, which lead to a lot of bent noses (especially from folks who wanted to see Neese The Younger and Leaf animated). The general dissatisfaction with how it turned out was a major catalyst for ''Chronicles of the Heroic Knight'' coming to be, almost a decade later.

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* BadassDecay: More of an enforced example. Since the series itself is not long and the arc that it occurs in is only about eight episodes, we clearly see how the [[spoiler: regaining of Orson's emotions and the weakening influence that Hyuri had over him]] turned him from a cool, emotionless fighting juggernaut to a whiny, emotional prick. Though you have to give him credit: [[BroughtDownToBadass he can still handle himself with a sword pretty well without being a berserker]].

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More of an enforced example. Since the TV series itself is not terribly long and the arc that it occurs in is only about eight episodes, we clearly see how the [[spoiler: regaining [[spoiler:regaining of Orson's emotions and the weakening influence that Hyuri had over him]] turned him from a cool, emotionless fighting juggernaut to a whiny, emotional prick. Though you have to give him credit: [[BroughtDownToBadass he can still handle himself with a sword pretty well without being a berserker]].



* {{Narm}}: The kobolds look rather vicious, but their screams and howls sound exactly like your five year old brother immitating a monkey.

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The kobolds look rather vicious, but their screams and howls sound exactly like your five year old brother immitating a monkey.



* {{Sequelitis}}: ''Legend of Crystania: The Motion Picture'' and ''Chaos Ring'' both fell under this very quickly.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: ''Legend of Crystania: The Motion Picture'' and ''Chaos Ring'' are both fell under this very quickly.considered to be pointedly bad cases of it.



* TearJerker: The death of Orson in the TV series was particularly sad, having made a HeroicSacrifice for Shiris with her [[PleaseWakeUp begging him to wake.]]
** Two in episode 8. Immediately after the fight with Karla. Ghim sacrifices his life to free Leylia from Karla's control. His friends, naturally, are grieve-stricken by his death. Parn takes it especially hard. "Speak to me! Ghim! [[BigNo NOOOOOOOO!!!]]"

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The death of Orson in the TV series was particularly sad, having made a HeroicSacrifice for Shiris with her [[PleaseWakeUp begging him to wake.]]
** Two in episode 8.8 of the OVA. Immediately after the fight with Karla. Ghim sacrifices his life to free Leylia from Karla's control. His friends, naturally, are grieve-stricken by his death. Parn takes it especially hard. "Speak to me! Ghim! [[BigNo NOOOOOOOO!!!]]"

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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The Dreamcast game is a solid ActionRPG generally held in good regard.
** Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth is considered to be a worthy SpiritualSuccessor to Symphony of the Night.

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The Dreamcast game is a solid ActionRPG generally held in good regard.
** Deedlit ''Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth Labyrinth'' is considered to be a worthy SpiritualSuccessor to Symphony of the Night.''VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight''.


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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: In a hilarious reminder that this trope is older than a lot of tropers, this was evidently an early reaction to the Parn/Deedlit romance in Japan - the original ActualPlay series did ''not'' feature any such romance, and was an invention of DM-cum-novelizer Ryo Mizuno. However, the sheer weight of the adaptations (as well as the anglosphere getting all the adaptations decades ahead of the AP) has rendered this a barely-remembered footnote among the fandom.

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** Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth is considered to be a worthy SpiritualSucessor to Symphony of the Night.

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* SpiritualPredecessor: ''Lodoss'' has gained a bit more fame in the [=2010s=] and [=2020s=] as being, in a very real way, one of the major antecedents to modern ActualPlay shows, coming from an era where ''proper'' actual play sessions would have been incredibly difficult to disseminate or get air time for, making the ''Comptiq'' articles and the novelizations far more practical. The parallels to ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'' are especially prominent, as that Actual Play series has also spawned [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfVoxMachina its own animated]] [[https://deadline.com/2023/01/amazon-studios-inks-overall-tv-first-look-film-deal-with-critical-role-sets-mighty-nein-animated-series-as-first-project-1235240884/ adaptations]].
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* ChaoticEvil: As opposed to conquering Lodoss, Wagnard's goal is to burn it to the ground.
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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Deedlit in the OVA is regarded a FauxActionGirl because she doesn't have any shining moments in combat. However, she gets a lot of done with shamanistic magic ''outside'' of combat: finding a way out of a trap in the pilot, guiding the group through the Forest Of No Return, protecting them from the hot air vents in the ancient fire dragon's lair, and guiding the others to Parm's location after he gets his ass handed to him by Wagnard.

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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Deedlit in the OVA is regarded a FauxActionGirl because she doesn't have any shining moments in combat. However, she gets a lot of done with shamanistic magic ''outside'' of combat: finding a way out of a trap in the pilot, guiding the group through the Forest Of No Return, protecting them from the hot air vents in the ancient fire dragon's lair, and guiding the others to Parm's location after he gets his ass handed to him by Wagnard.
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** Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth is considered to be a worthy SpiritualSucessor to Symphony of the Night.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Listen to this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKtYqh7VDEo score.]] Now listen to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i139Ew6mMFM one.]] If you're wondering which one came first the answer is ''Film/{{Leviathan}}1989.'' (the OVA came out in 1990, the film came out the year before. Plus ''Leviathan's'' composer was none other than [[Music/JerryGoldsmith Jerry freakin' Goldsmith]]. Do the math.)

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Listen to this [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKtYqh7VDEo score.]] Now listen to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i139Ew6mMFM one.]] If you're wondering which one came first the answer is ''Film/{{Leviathan}}1989.'' ''Film/Leviathan1989''. (the OVA came out in 1990, the film came out the year before. Plus ''Leviathan's'' composer was none other than [[Music/JerryGoldsmith Jerry freakin' Goldsmith]]. Do the math.)
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** The opening songs for both for the OAV ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz9hQND5db4 Sherry's Adesso e Fortuna]]) and ''especially'' the TV series (Creator/MaayaSakamoto's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux90A4YDLdo Kiseki no Umi]]) are legendary among anime fans of a certain age. "Kiseki no Umi" is even more notable for being vastly different from virtually anything else accompanying a show in its late-[=90s=] timeframe. (The AnimeThemeSong had come into vogue by then, but it was still usually restricted to rock or pop; "Kiseki no Umi", meanwhile, ''defies'' easy genre classification despite being pop-song length.)

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** The opening songs for both for the OAV ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz9hQND5db4 Sherry's Adesso e Fortuna]]) and ''especially'' the TV series (Creator/MaayaSakamoto's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux90A4YDLdo Kiseki "Kiseki no Umi]]) Umi"/"Sea of Miracles"]]) are legendary among anime fans of a certain age. "Kiseki no Umi" is even more notable for being vastly different from virtually anything else accompanying a show in its late-[=90s=] timeframe. (The AnimeThemeSong had come into vogue by then, but it was still usually restricted to rock or pop; "Kiseki no Umi", meanwhile, ''defies'' easy genre classification despite being pop-song length.)



** The OAV's ending, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5O_YtLIQ0w "Kaze no Fantasia"]] is another classic among anime fans who cut their teeth in the [=90s=].

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** The OAV's ending, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5O_YtLIQ0w "Kaze no Fantasia"]] Fantasia"]], is another classic among anime fans who cut their teeth in the [=90s=].
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** The OAV's ending, [[https://youtu.be/EEWToCWTCdo "Kaze no Fantasia"]] is another classic among anime fans who cut their teeth in the [=90s=].

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** The OAV's ending, [[https://youtu.be/EEWToCWTCdo [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5O_YtLIQ0w "Kaze no Fantasia"]] is another classic among anime fans who cut their teeth in the [=90s=].

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