History YMMV / Ramayana

8th Jan '16 6:34:12 AM MagBas
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* GodModeSue: Very much a TropesAreNotBad example. Rama is literally a GodInHumanForm, and [[ShowyInvincibleHero isn't ever seriously threatened by his enemies]]. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome No one's complaining]].
** Except Rama's sons. When they hear his tale from Sage Valmiki, albeit with the names changed, they comment that [[FromTheMouthsOfBabes Rama was cruel to Sita]]. Later [[EasilyForgiven they forgive him after they learn he is their father, somehow]].

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* GodModeSue: Very much a TropesAreNotBad example. Rama is literally a GodInHumanForm, and [[ShowyInvincibleHero isn't ever seriously threatened by his enemies]]. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome No one's complaining]].
** Except Rama's sons. When they hear his tale from Sage Valmiki, albeit with the names changed, they comment that [[FromTheMouthsOfBabes Rama was cruel to Sita]]. Later [[EasilyForgiven they forgive him after they learn he is their father, somehow]].

2nd Feb '15 9:55:03 AM MagBas
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* UnfortunateImplications: Sri Lanka is a real island with dark-skinned residents, as well as their version of the Ramayana's events. In most adaptations of the Ramayana, including the comic versions, Sri Lankans are portrayed as grey-skinned Rakshasa demons with no conscience at all, unless they are Vibeeshana. Ravana and his wives have even threatened to eat Sita at several points, and Ravana goes for AnythingThatMoves and women who are light-skinned.

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* UnfortunateImplications: Sri Lanka is a real island with dark-skinned residents, as well as their version of the Ramayana's events. In most adaptations of the Ramayana, including the comic versions, Sri Lankans are portrayed as grey-skinned Rakshasa demons with no conscience at all, unless they are Vibeeshana. Ravana and his wives have even threatened to eat Sita at several points, and Ravana goes for AnythingThatMoves and women who are light-skinned.
9th Jan '15 10:28:52 AM Jayalaw
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** Sri Lanka, Ravana's kingdom, is also a real place, and the island has its own version of the Ramayana.

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** Sri Lanka, Ravana's kingdom, is also a real place, and the island has its own version of the Ramayana. Ravana was seen as a [[http://www.srilanka.travel/ravana benevolent tyrant who helped Lanka flourish]].
9th Jan '15 8:42:13 AM Jayalaw
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** Sri Lanka, Ravana's kingdom, is also a real place, and the island has its own version of the Ramayana.


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** Except Rama's sons. When they hear his tale from Sage Valmiki, albeit with the names changed, they comment that [[FromTheMouthsOfBabes Rama was cruel to Sita]]. Later [[EasilyForgiven they forgive him after they learn he is their father, somehow]].
* UnfortunateImplications: Sri Lanka is a real island with dark-skinned residents, as well as their version of the Ramayana's events. In most adaptations of the Ramayana, including the comic versions, Sri Lankans are portrayed as grey-skinned Rakshasa demons with no conscience at all, unless they are Vibeeshana. Ravana and his wives have even threatened to eat Sita at several points, and Ravana goes for AnythingThatMoves and women who are light-skinned.
18th Dec '14 12:08:12 PM Morgenthaler
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* UnfortunateImplications: The ideal setting of the story is described, among other things, by stating that everyone performed their duty according to their respective ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism) varna]]'' and ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashrama_(stage) asrama]]''. A certain ''Śūdra'' decides towards the end of the work to perform Vedic rites, which causes the death of a ''Brahmin''ís son; Rama then proceeds to [[OffWithHisHead decapitate]] the ''Śūdra'', and the gods produce a rain of flowers to show their satisfaction. Mind you, most of the ''Śūdra'' ''varṇa'' is composed of non-Aryans[[note]]the Indo-European group, not the allegedly Ďpure-bloodedí Germanic people[[/note]], and judging by the fact that the non-human races are actually [[SpaceJews thinly-veiled metaphors for non-Aryan peoples]] (as any textbook about the subject would tell you), and the way Sugrīva simply accepts it when Rama tells him he could hunt him (since being a monkey makes him fair game)... Well, letís just say this work isnít all that well-received among many non-religious and/or non-Aryan people.
** The epilogue of ''Ramayana'' deconstructs the very code it supposedly espouses. Rama is forced to part with his beloved wife Sita because of her "tarnished" reputation and in the end she decides she no longer loves him and leaves him forever.
23rd Jul '14 2:20:04 AM JulianLapostat
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** The epilogue of ''Ramayana'' deconstructs the very code it supposedly espouses. Rama is forced to part with his beloved wife Sita because of her "tarnished" reputation and in the end she decides she no longer loves him and leaves him forever.
21st Nov '13 3:36:12 PM beautifulromantic
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* BadassDecay - Ravana has been changed in his portrayal of being a BigBad to an AntiHero whose one weakness was kidnapping women that were not his. To be fair, some passages of Valmiki somewhat lead to this interpretation. See DracoInLeatherPants below, which perhaps makes this one of the oldest ones ever.
* DracoInLeatherPants - Ravana, believe it or not! Numerous alternative versions (Kamban's for eg.) show him as a king esteemed for his knowledge, fighting prowess and talent in the arts and he's has a place in Shiva temples in the South, thus making this trope OlderThanFeudalism.
* EnsembleDarkhorse - Hanuman

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* BadassDecay - BadassDecay: Ravana has been changed in his portrayal of being a BigBad to an AntiHero whose one weakness was kidnapping women that were not his. To be fair, some passages of Valmiki somewhat lead to this interpretation. See DracoInLeatherPants below, which perhaps makes this one of the oldest ones ever.
* DracoInLeatherPants - DracoInLeatherPants: Ravana, believe it or not! Numerous alternative versions (Kamban's for eg.) show him as a king esteemed for his knowledge, fighting prowess and talent in the arts and he's has a place in Shiva temples in the South, thus making this trope OlderThanFeudalism.
* EnsembleDarkhorse - EnsembleDarkhorse: Hanuman
16th Jan '13 11:22:16 AM RJSavoy
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* AlasPoorVillain - Kumbhakarna. Ravana as well.
* BadassDecay - Ravana has been changed in his portrayal of being a {{BigBad}} to a {{AntiHero}} whose one weakness was kidnapping women that were not his. To be fair, some passages of Valmiki somewhat lead to this interpretation. See DracoInLeatherPants below, which perhaps makes this one of the oldest ones ever.

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* AlasPoorVillain - Kumbhakarna. Ravana as well.
* BadassDecay - Ravana has been changed in his portrayal of being a {{BigBad}} BigBad to a {{AntiHero}} an AntiHero whose one weakness was kidnapping women that were not his. To be fair, some passages of Valmiki somewhat lead to this interpretation. See DracoInLeatherPants below, which perhaps makes this one of the oldest ones ever.



* UnfortunateImplications: The ideal setting of the story is described, among other things, by stating that everyone performed their duty according to their respective ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism) varna]]'' and ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashrama_(stage) asrama]]''. A certain ''Śūdra'' decides towards the end of the work to perform Vedic rites, which causes the death of a ''Brahmin''ís son; Rama then proceeds to [[OffWithHisHead decapitate]] the ''Śūdra'', and the gods produce a rain of flowers to show their satisfaction. Mind you, most of the ''Śūdra'' ''varṇa'' is composed of non-Aryans[[hottip:*:the Indo-European group, not the allegedly Ďpure-bloodedí Germanic people]], and judging by the fact that the non-human races are actually [[SpaceJews thinly-veiled metaphors for non-Aryan peoples]] (as any textbook about the subject would tell you), and the way Sugrīva simply accepts it when Rama tells him he could hunt him (since being a monkey makes him fair game)... Well, letís just say this work isnít all that well-received among many non-religious and/or non-Aryan people.

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* UnfortunateImplications: The ideal setting of the story is described, among other things, by stating that everyone performed their duty according to their respective ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism) varna]]'' and ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashrama_(stage) asrama]]''. A certain ''Śūdra'' decides towards the end of the work to perform Vedic rites, which causes the death of a ''Brahmin''ís son; Rama then proceeds to [[OffWithHisHead decapitate]] the ''Śūdra'', and the gods produce a rain of flowers to show their satisfaction. Mind you, most of the ''Śūdra'' ''varṇa'' is composed of non-Aryans[[hottip:*:the non-Aryans[[note]]the Indo-European group, not the allegedly Ďpure-bloodedí Germanic people]], people[[/note]], and judging by the fact that the non-human races are actually [[SpaceJews thinly-veiled metaphors for non-Aryan peoples]] (as any textbook about the subject would tell you), and the way Sugrīva simply accepts it when Rama tells him he could hunt him (since being a monkey makes him fair game)... Well, letís just say this work isnít all that well-received among many non-religious and/or non-Aryan people.
26th Nov '12 1:06:50 AM Chaos009
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* GodModeSue: Very much a TropesAreNotBad example. Rama is literally a GodInHumanForm, and [[ShowyInvincibleHero isn't ever seriously threatened by his enemies]]. [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome No one's complaining]].
12th Aug '12 7:58:04 AM AnCatDubh
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* UnfortunateImplications: The ideal setting of the story is described, among other things, by stating that everyone performed their duty according to their respective ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism) varṇa]]'' and ''[[en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashrama_(stage) āśrama]]''. A certain ''Śūdra'' decides towards the end of the work to perform Vedic rites, which causes the death of a ''Brahmin''ís son; Rama then proceeds to [[OffWithHisHead decapitate]] the ''Śūdra'', and the gods produce a rain of flowers to show their satisfaction. Mind you, most of the ''Śūdra'' ''varṇa'' is composed of non-Aryans[[hottip:*:the Indo-European group, not the allegedly Ďpure-bloodedí Germanic people]], and judging by the fact that the non-human races are actually [[JewsInSpace thinly-veiled metaphors for non-Aryan peoples]] (as any textbook about the subject would tell you), and the way Sugrīva simply accepts it when Rama tells him he could hunt him (since being a monkey makes him fair game)... Well, letís just say this work isnít all that well-received among many non-religious and/or non-Aryan people.

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* UnfortunateImplications: The ideal setting of the story is described, among other things, by stating that everyone performed their duty according to their respective ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varna_(Hinduism) varṇa]]'' varna]]'' and ''[[en.''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashrama_(stage) āśrama]]''.asrama]]''. A certain ''Śūdra'' decides towards the end of the work to perform Vedic rites, which causes the death of a ''Brahmin''ís son; Rama then proceeds to [[OffWithHisHead decapitate]] the ''Śūdra'', and the gods produce a rain of flowers to show their satisfaction. Mind you, most of the ''Śūdra'' ''varṇa'' is composed of non-Aryans[[hottip:*:the Indo-European group, not the allegedly Ďpure-bloodedí Germanic people]], and judging by the fact that the non-human races are actually [[JewsInSpace [[SpaceJews thinly-veiled metaphors for non-Aryan peoples]] (as any textbook about the subject would tell you), and the way Sugrīva simply accepts it when Rama tells him he could hunt him (since being a monkey makes him fair game)... Well, letís just say this work isnít all that well-received among many non-religious and/or non-Aryan people.
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