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* HilariousInHindsight: In the record store, we can clearly see a line of records labeled for an alternative rock band named "Hole" - [[Music/{{Hole}} No, not that one]]. They didn't become active until 1989 and Music/CourtneyLove was instead pursuing an acting career when this movie was made.
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* HilariousInHindsight: In the record store, we can clearly see a line of records labeled for an alternative rock band named "Hole" - [[Music/{{Hole}} No, not that one]]. They didn't become active until 1989 and Music/CourtneyLove was instead pursuing an acting career when this movie was made.
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* HilariousInHindsight: In the record store, we can clearly see a line of records labeled for an alternative rock band named "Hole" - [[Music/{{Hole}} No, not that one]]. They didn't become active until 1989 and Music/CourtneyLove was instead pursuing an acting career when this movie was made.
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* ValuesDissonance: Ducky is a complete ''creep'' by modern standards. When he's not insisting that Andie and he are in a relationship, he's often making crass and sexist remarks towards other female students.
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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
** Ducky is a complete ''creep'' by modern standards. When he's not insisting that Andie and he are in a relationship, he's often making crass and sexist remarks towards other female students.
** Ducky is a complete ''creep'' by modern standards. When he's not insisting that Andie and he are in a relationship, he's often making crass and sexist remarks towards other female students.
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** Jack smoking at the breakfast table. Smoking in movies gets a warning label now, while in the 80s it didn't raise an eyebrow.
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** Notably not just a ''[[FanPreferredCouple Fan]]'' [[FanPreferredCouple Preferred Couple]], but also a ''Creator'' Preferred Couple as well. John Hughes disliked the ending, and rectified it with ''Film/SomeKindOfWonderful'', which features a similar (if not identical) plot, albeit [[GenderFlip gender-swapped]].
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Even by 1980s teen dramedy standards, this is pretty damn 80s. So much that if people showed up dressed like these people in a movie today, the audience would assume the characters were satirizing the 80s. There's also a lot of Duckie's dialogue (such as him saying "bogus" unironically).
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* ValuesDissonance: Ducky is a complete ''creep'' by modern standards.
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* ValuesDissonance: Ducky is a complete ''creep'' by modern standards. When he's not insisting that Andie and he are in a relationship, he's often making crass and sexist remarks towards other female students.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Steff, a misogynistic, [[EntitledBastard stuck up]] prick ''or'' an ArmoredClosetGay whose self loathing and unrequited love [[HoYay for his best friend]] is causing him to lash out at the wrong people? You'll notice his constantly [[CrazyJealousGuy following Blaine around and interference with his romantic relationships]] isn't ''that'' dissimilar to the smitten Ducky's behavior. James Spader has his own WordOfSaintPaul that all of Steff's stuck up classicism and abuse toward Andie is due to the fact that he liked her but she didn't like him.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Is Ducky EntitledToHaveYou or a DoggedNiceGuy? Some ValuesDissonance is at play here. There's also Molly Ringwald's theory that Ducky was gay and ArmoredClosetGay (at least to himself).
** Steff, a misogynistic, [[EntitledBastard stuck up]] prick ''or'' an ArmoredClosetGay whose self loathing and unrequited love [[HoYay for his best friend]] is causing him to lash out at the wrong people? You'll notice his constantly [[CrazyJealousGuy following Blaine around and interference with his romantic relationships]] isn't ''that'' dissimilar to the smitten Ducky's behavior. James Spader has his own WordOfSaintPaul that all of Steff's stuck up classicism and abuse toward Andie is due to the fact that he liked her but she didn't like him.
** Is Ducky EntitledToHaveYou or a DoggedNiceGuy? Some ValuesDissonance is at play here. There's also Molly Ringwald's theory that Ducky was gay and ArmoredClosetGay (at least to himself).
** Steff, a misogynistic, [[EntitledBastard stuck up]] prick ''or'' an ArmoredClosetGay whose self loathing and unrequited love [[HoYay for his best friend]] is causing him to lash out at the wrong people? You'll notice his constantly [[CrazyJealousGuy following Blaine around and interference with his romantic relationships]] isn't ''that'' dissimilar to the smitten Ducky's behavior. James Spader has his own WordOfSaintPaul that all of Steff's stuck up classicism and abuse toward Andie is due to the fact that he liked her but she didn't like him.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Steff, a misogynistic, [[EntitledBastard stuck up]] prick ''or'' an ArmoredClosetGay whose self loathing and unrequited love [[HoYay for his best friend]] is causing him to lash out at the wrong people? You'll notice his constantly [[CrazyJealousGuy following Blaine around and interference with his romantic relationships]] isn't ''that'' dissimilar to the smitten Ducky's behavior. James Spader has his own WordOfSaintPaul that all of Steff's stuck up classicism and abuse toward Andi is due to the fact that he liked her but she didn't like him.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Steff, a misogynistic, [[EntitledBastard stuck up]] prick ''or'' an ArmoredClosetGay whose self loathing and unrequited love [[HoYay for his best friend]] is causing him to lash out at the wrong people? You'll notice his constantly [[CrazyJealousGuy following Blaine around and interference with his romantic relationships]] isn't ''that'' dissimilar to the smitten Ducky's behavior. James Spader has his own WordOfSaintPaul that all of Steff's stuck up classicism and abuse toward Andi Andie is due to the fact that he liked her but she didn't like him.him.
* BrokenBase: It has been a subject of decades of debate whether Andie should end up with Blaine or Ducky or neither.
* BrokenBase: It has been a subject of decades of debate whether Andie should end up with Blaine or Ducky or neither.
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* ValuesDissonance: Ducky is a complete ''creep'' by modern standards.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Steff, a misogynistic, [[EntitledBastard stuck up]] prick ''or'' an ArmoredClosetGay whose self loathing and unrequited love [[HoYay for his best friend]] is causing him to lash out at the wrong people? You'll notice his constantly [[CrazyJealousGuy following Blaine around and interference with his romantic relationships]] isn't ''that'' dissimilar to the smitten Ducky's behavior. James Spader has his own WordOfSaintPaul that all of Steff's stuck up classicism and abuse toward Andi is due to the fact that he liked her but she didn't like him.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Ducky beating up Steff was a little ''too'' [[CatharsisFactor satisfying]] to watch.
** Towards the end when Blane ''finally'' stands up to Steff, culminating in TheReasonYouSuckSpeech
** Towards the end when Blane ''finally'' stands up to Steff, culminating in TheReasonYouSuckSpeech
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** Ducky beating up Steff was a little ''too'' [[CatharsisFactor satisfying]] to watch.
** Towards the end when Blane ''finally'' stands up to Steff, culminating in TheReasonYouSuckSpeech
** Ducky beating up Steff was a little ''too'' [[CatharsisFactor satisfying]] to watch.
** Towards the end when Blane ''finally'' stands up to Steff, culminating in TheReasonYouSuckSpeech
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Steff, a misogynistic, [[EntitledBastard stuck up]] prick ''or'' an ArmoredClosetGay whose self loathing and unrequited love [[HoYay for his best friend]] is causing him to lash out at the wrong people? You'll notice his constantly [[CrazyJealousGuy following Blaine around and interference with his romantic relationships]] isn't ''that'' dissimilar to the smitten Ducky's behavior.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Steff, a misogynistic, [[EntitledBastard stuck up]] prick ''or'' an ArmoredClosetGay whose self loathing and unrequited love [[HoYay for his best friend]] causing him to lash out at the wrong people? You'll notice his constantly [[ClingyJealousGuy [[CrazyJealousGuy following Blaine around and interference with his romantic relationships]] isn't ''that'' dissimilar to the smitten Ducky's behavior.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Ducky beating up Steff was a little ''too'' [[CatharsisFactor satisfying]] to watch.
** Towards the end when Blane ''finally'' stands up to Steff, culminating in TheReasonYouSuckSpeech
** Towards the end when Blane ''finally'' stands up to Steff, culminating in TheReasonYouSuckSpeech
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Ducky, despite being simply a supporting cast member, is considered by many to be the most memorable character in the film.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Ducky, despite being simply a supporting cast member, is considered by many to be the most memorable character in the film. In fact, a version of the movie was released on DVD as a "more Ducky" version, restoring many deleted Ducky scenes and featuring ''only'' Ducky on the cover.
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* DirectorDisplacement: ''Pretty in Pink'' was directed by Howard Deutch, but it's viewed as a Creator/JohnHughes film.
* DracoInLeatherPants: James Spader, at his smarmiest.
* DracoInLeatherPants: James Spader, at his smarmiest.
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* DirectorDisplacement: ''Pretty in Pink'' It was directed by Howard Deutch, but it's viewed as a Creator/JohnHughes film.
* DracoInLeatherPants:James Spader, Creator/JamesSpader at his smarmiest.
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** Notably not just a ''[[FanPreferredCouple Fan]]'' [[FanPreferredCouple Preferred Couple]], but also a ''Creator'' Preferred Couple as well. John Hughes disliked the ending, and rectified it with ''SomeKindOfWonderful'', which features a similar (if not identical) plot, albeit [[GenderFlip gender-swapped]].
* InformedAbility: Andie's sewing skills and fashion sense. Come on, that prom dress is hideous! And the fuchsia tights and baby pink shoes...Even in TheEighties that was a fashion "don't."
* InformedAbility: Andie's sewing skills and fashion sense. Come on, that prom dress is hideous! And the fuchsia tights and baby pink shoes...Even in TheEighties that was a fashion "don't."
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** Notably not just a ''[[FanPreferredCouple Fan]]'' [[FanPreferredCouple Preferred Couple]], but also a ''Creator'' Preferred Couple as well. John Hughes disliked the ending, and rectified it with ''SomeKindOfWonderful'', ''Film/SomeKindOfWonderful'', which features a similar (if not identical) plot, albeit [[GenderFlip gender-swapped]].
* InformedAbility: Andie's sewing skills and fashion sense. Come on, that prom dress is hideous! And the fuchsia tights and baby pink shoes...Even in TheEighties that was a fashion "don't."gender-swapped]].
* InformedAbility: Andie's sewing skills and fashion sense. Come on, that prom dress is hideous! And the fuchsia tights and baby pink shoes...Even in TheEighties that was a fashion "don't."
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Even by 1980s teen dramedy standards, this is pretty damn 80s. So much that if people showed up dressed like these people in a movie today, the audience would assume the characters were satirizing the 80s. There's also a lot of Duckie's dialogue (such as him saying "bogus" unironically).
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* DeaderThanDisco: Though a critical and commercial success at the time of its release, ''Pretty in Pink'' has fallen out of favor, in part because of the weaknesses of its story, questionable messages, and for being a serious UnintentionalPeriodPiece. It holds a mediocre 6.7 on IMDB, with many posts on the film's message board expressing a negative opinion of it, especially in regards to the acting of Creator/MollyRingwald, who herself has succumbed to this trope.
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* DeaderThanDisco: Though a critical and commercial success at the time of its release, ''Pretty in Pink'' has fallen out of favor, in part because of the weaknesses of its story, questionable messages, and for being a serious UnintentionalPeriodPiece. It holds a mediocre 6.7 on IMDB, with many posts on the film's message board expressing a negative opinion of it, especially in regards to the acting of Creator/MollyRingwald, who herself has succumbed to this trope.
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* InformedAbility: Andie's sewing skills and fashion sense. Come on, that prom dress is hideous! And the fuschia tights and baby pink shoes...Even in TheEighties that was a fashion "don't."
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* InformedAbility: Andie's sewing skills and fashion sense. Come on, that prom dress is hideous! And the fuschia fuchsia tights and baby pink shoes...Even in TheEighties that was a fashion "don't."
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Even by 1980s teen dramedy standards, this is pretty damn 80s. So much that if people showed up dressed like these people in a movie today, the audience would assume the characters were satirizing the 80s. There's also a lot of Duckie's dialogue (such as him saying "bogus" unironically).
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Even by 1980s teen dramedy standards, this is pretty damn 80s. So much that if people showed up dressed like these people in a movie today, the audience would assume the characters were satirizing the 80s. There's also a lot of Duckie's dialogue (such as him saying "bogus" unironically).unironically).
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* DracoInLeatherPants: James Spader, at his smarmiest.
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* StoicWoobie: Andie is this when you consider the fact that her mother left the family and that she always knew her mother didn't love them. SINCE SHE WAS FIVE.
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* StoicWoobie: Andie is this when you consider the fact that her mother left the family and that she always knew her mother didn't love them. SINCE SHE WAS FIVE.FIVE.
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Even by 1980s teen dramedy standards, this is pretty damn 80s. So much that if people showed up dressed like these people in a movie today, the audience would assume the characters were satirizing the 80s. There's also a lot of Duckie's dialogue (such as him saying "bogus" unironically).
* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Even by 1980s teen dramedy standards, this is pretty damn 80s. So much that if people showed up dressed like these people in a movie today, the audience would assume the characters were satirizing the 80s. There's also a lot of Duckie's dialogue (such as him saying "bogus" unironically).
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* RetroactiveRecognition: You know the kid who almost gets hit in the eye with a staple? That kid grew up to be [[TheAquabats MC Bat Commander]].
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* RetroactiveRecognition: You know the kid who almost gets hit in the eye with a staple? That kid grew up to be [[TheAquabats [[Music/TheAquabats MC Bat Commander]].
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* RetroactiveRecognition: You know the kid who almost gets hit in the eye with a staple? That kid grew up to be [[TheAquabats MC Bat Commander]].
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* RetroactiveRecognition: You know the kid who almost gets hit in the eye with a staple? That kid grew up to be [[TheAquabats MC Bat Commander]].Commander]].
* StoicWoobie: Andie is this when you consider the fact that her mother left the family and that she always knew her mother didn't love them. SINCE SHE WAS FIVE.
* StoicWoobie: Andie is this when you consider the fact that her mother left the family and that she always knew her mother didn't love them. SINCE SHE WAS FIVE.
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* DirectorDisplacement: ''Pretty in Pink'' was directed by Howard Deutch, but it's viewed as a JohnHughes film.
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** Notably not just a ''[[FanPreferredCouple Fan]]'' [[FanPreferredCouple Preferred Couple]], but also a ''Creator'' Preferred Couple as well. John Hughes disliked the ending, and rectified it with ''SomeKindOfWonderful'', which features a similar (if not identical) plot, albeit [[GenderFlip gender-swapped]].
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** Notably not just a ''[[FanPreferredCouple Fan]]'' [[FanPreferredCouple Preferred Couple]], but also a ''Creator'' Preferred Couple as well. John Hughes disliked the ending, and rectified it with ''SomeKindOfWonderful'', which features a similar (if not identical) plot, albeit [[GenderFlip gender-swapped]].gender-swapped]].
* RetroactiveRecognition: You know the kid who almost gets hit in the eye with a staple? That kid grew up to be [[TheAquabats MC Bat Commander]].
* RetroactiveRecognition: You know the kid who almost gets hit in the eye with a staple? That kid grew up to be [[TheAquabats MC Bat Commander]].