History YMMV / PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon

19th Oct '17 7:13:11 AM SpinAttaxx
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* HolyShitQuotient: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0XEzxULCDg Darkness Approaches the Alola Region]] trailer, which heavily implies that, in a series first, Necrozma itself is the primary BigBad ''without'' being controlled or influenced by a "real" human antagonist, like other Legendary Pokémon in the past were.

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* HolyShitQuotient: The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0XEzxULCDg Darkness Approaches the Alola Region]] trailer, which heavily implies that, in a series first, Necrozma itself is the primary BigBad ''without'' being controlled or influenced by a "real" human antagonist, like other Legendary Pokémon in the past were. Even the previous villain (who considered even a non-sapiant alien parasite "beautiful") outright sees it as a monster!
19th Oct '17 7:10:52 AM SpinAttaxx
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* {{HSQ}}: The fact that unlike other games [[note]] Ignoring the movies and the ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon Mystery Dungeon]]'' games [[/note]], that a very Pokémon itself can be a BigBad, as established in one of the later trailers.

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* {{HSQ}}: HolyShitQuotient: The fact that unlike [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0XEzxULCDg Darkness Approaches the Alola Region]] trailer, which heavily implies that, in a series first, Necrozma itself is the primary BigBad ''without'' being controlled or influenced by a "real" human antagonist, like other games [[note]] Ignoring the movies and the ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon Mystery Dungeon]]'' games [[/note]], that a very Legendary Pokémon itself can be a BigBad, as established in one of the later trailers.past were.
18th Oct '17 3:53:23 PM ADrago
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** The announcement trailer briefly depicts what appears to be [[WoobieSpecies a Mimikyu]] showing the viewer its ''[[EldritchAbomination true]]'' form. Anyone who knows about [[BrownNote what happens to people who see that]] will understand ''why'' it's NightmareFuel.
*** Even more so with the implication that it's a Z-Move. [[note]]The implication comes from the boxart of the Z-Power Ring toy.[[/note]]

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** The announcement trailer briefly depicts what appears to be [[WoobieSpecies a Mimikyu]] showing the viewer its ''[[EldritchAbomination true]]'' form. Anyone who knows about [[BrownNote what happens to people who see that]] will understand ''why'' it's NightmareFuel.
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NightmareFuel. Even more so with the implication that it's a Z-Move. [[note]]The implication comes from the boxart of the Z-Power Ring toy.[[/note]]
18th Oct '17 6:08:07 AM SpinAttaxx
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** Thanks to the presence of [[http://www.pokemonmillennium.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/creatura-misteriosa-Pokemon-Ultrasole-e-Ultraluna.jpg a pair of Necrozma-esque eyes in the offcial website's background]], some fans believe Necrozma will have an as-yet unrevealed third/"true" Forme.
18th Oct '17 5:59:45 AM SpinAttaxx
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** With Pokémon like Tyranitar, Manectric and Houndoom appearing in these games, as well as the specific mention of Mewtwo when referring to finding Legendaries in Ultra Space, the Mega Stones controversially absent from the originals (aside from [[TemporaryOnlineContent limited-time codes]]) are implicitly now more easily attainable.
17th Oct '17 10:08:07 PM stewyworks333
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* {{HSQ}}: The fact that unlike other games [[note]] Ignoring the movies and the ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon Mystery Dungeon]]'' games [[/note]], that a very Pokémon itself can be a BigBad, as established in one of the later trailers.
17th Oct '17 9:27:40 PM Pikatwig
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*** Even more so with the implication that it's a Z-Move. [[note]]The implication comes from the boxart of the Z-Power Ring toy.[[/note]]
17th Oct '17 2:22:14 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** NightmareFetishist Lusamine on the ground, telling someone (seemingly her children) "Run. It's a monster!"

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** NightmareFetishist Lusamine on the ground, telling someone (seemingly her children) "Run. "[[HorrifyingTheHorror Run. It's a monster!"monster!]]"
17th Oct '17 10:25:14 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Prior to release, general opinion on ''Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon'' could be summed up as, "[[ItsTheSameNowItSucks This is just the last two games again, only with a few new forms and Z-Moves]]". Not only did new information become more frequent as the release neared, but a Famitsu interview claimed that not only were the games very different from ''Sun and Moon'', but they had more changes than ''Emerald'' and ''Platinum'' had for their respective originals.
17th Oct '17 10:17:17 AM SpinAttaxx
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** Similarly, a lot of players complained about visit of [[spoiler:Ultra Space]] being extremely limited and a OneTimeDungeon to boot. This game seems to fix that by allowing the players to explore more of [[spoiler: Ultra Space]] by having the players travel to it to face the Ultra Beasts and giving each one its own section of [[spoiler: Ultra Space]].

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** Similarly, a lot of players complained about the visit of [[spoiler:Ultra Space]] to Ultra Space in the originals being [[NoSidepathsNoExplorationNoFreedom extremely limited limited]], and a OneTimeDungeon to boot. This game seems to fix that by allowing the players to explore more of [[spoiler: ''vastly'' expanding Ultra Space]] by having the players travel Space to it to face the have more areas (such as an area for every individual Ultra Beasts and giving each one its own section of [[spoiler: Beast), as well as encountering Legendary Pokémon from past games while travelling through Ultra Space]].Space ala ''Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire''.
** A criticism of ''Pokémon'' games since ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' is their generally sparse post-game content, with little on offer aside from hunting down a BonusBoss or two and participating in a scaled-down Battle Frontier {{expy}}. A Famitsu interview claims that these games will have ''far'' more to do once the main story is over, such as encountering past Legendary Pokémon like Mewtwo through Ultra Wormholes in Ultra Space.
** Prior to release, general opinion on ''Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon'' could be summed up as, "[[ItsTheSameNowItSucks This is just the last two games again, only with a few new forms and Z-Moves]]". Not only did new information become more frequent as the release neared, but a Famitsu interview claimed that not only were the games very different from ''Sun and Moon'', but they had more changes than ''Emerald'' and ''Platinum'' had for their respective originals.
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