History YMMV / PokemonTheFirstMovie

15th Feb '17 12:49:15 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* IdiotPlot: True to typical Pokemon fashion, much of the plot is driven by the failure of most of the characters, particularly Ash and his friends, to ask ''any'' questions about the trainer who's called them all forward to accept his challenge. Thus, they unwittingly makes themselves pawns in Mewtwo's plot to conquer the world cloning their Pokemon.
** And that's to say nothing of the source of Mewtwo's anger, which was his creators treating him as merely an experiment, followed up by Giovanni outright calling him a servant as opposed to an equal as promised, nearly getting himself killed like the scientists before him.


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** Team Rocket's viking disguises, which has to be one of their least credible, treats us to this quip from Ash that "They mostly live in Minnesota".
10th Jan '17 5:13:26 AM ExSlacker
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** Also from the beginning, Mewtwo's Dragonite is about to ram into Team Rocket, and Jesse manages to hold it off with a '''frying pan'''. [[Disney/{{Tangled}} "Gotta get me one of these"]] indeed.
10th Jan '17 5:07:39 AM ExSlacker
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** Also from the beginning, Mewtwo's Dragonite is about to ram into Team Rocket, and Jesse manages to hold it off with a '''frying pan'''. [[Disney/{{Tangled}} "Gotta get me one of these"]] indeed.
21st Nov '16 7:29:56 AM rjd1922
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** For a different comparison to ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'', Mewtwo is an anthropomorphic animal with PsychicPowers who halts its attackers via [[MindOverMatter telekinesis]] and then flings them away, even remarking "It's no use" before showcasing this ability against Ash. [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sound familiar?]] [[http://breakneck-blur.tumblr.com/post/65031566276/mewtwo-said-it-before-silver-did It should.]] For bonus points, both works were dubbed by [=4Kids=].

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** For a different comparison to ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'', Mewtwo is an anthropomorphic animal with PsychicPowers who halts its attackers via [[MindOverMatter telekinesis]] and then flings them away, even remarking "It's "It is no use" before showcasing this ability against Ash. [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sound familiar?]] [[http://breakneck-blur.tumblr.com/post/65031566276/mewtwo-said-it-before-silver-did It should.]] For bonus points, both works were dubbed by [=4Kids=].
5th Nov '16 8:09:53 PM Berrenta
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* InkStainAdaptation:
** Outside of the fandom, the English dub of the movie is considered very shoddy, and is partly responsible for the anime's and the franchise's SnarkBait reputation in the West. This is especially bad considering that Shudo's original script is regarded as ''better'' than much of the series.
** To a lesser extent, this movie's Mewtwo has overshadowed almost all other depictions of the character, and its appearance in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' draws heavily from it.
21st Oct '16 8:37:43 AM dlchen145
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* NarmCharm: Similar to ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie'', a lot of people enjoy the English dub due to nostalgia, the pop soundtrack, and Mewtwo's {{badass}}ery as a villain, despite everyone acknowledging that the movie isn't one of the best around (as evidenced by its very, ''very'' low Website/RottenTomatoes rating).

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* NarmCharm: Similar to ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie'', a lot of people enjoy the English dub due to nostalgia, the pop soundtrack, and Mewtwo's {{badass}}ery badassery as a villain, despite everyone acknowledging that the movie isn't one of the best around (as evidenced by its very, ''very'' low Website/RottenTomatoes rating).
14th Oct '16 1:57:14 PM WhatArtThee
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* VindicatedByHistory: To some extent. The movie used to be on the Website/IMDb Bottom 100 when it debuted, but now sits at an average rating. Most of the votes were initially from disgruntled adults taking their kids to see the movie, but they later became dominated by grown Pokéfans (the series' PopularityPolynomial definitely helped). Easier (but not outright "easy") access to the original Japanese version of the movie also helped, as it motivated quite a few ''Pokémon'' fans who aren't too fond of [=4Kids'=] dub to [[http://youchew.net/forum/index.php?/page/Articles/_/mediareviews/why-pokemon-mewtwo-strikes-back-is-m-r491 revisit the movie]] and develop a more positive opinion.

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* VindicatedByHistory: To some extent. The movie used to be on the Website/IMDb Bottom 100 when it debuted, but now sits at an average rating. Most of the votes were initially from disgruntled adults taking their kids to see the movie, but they later became dominated by grown Pokéfans (the series' PopularityPolynomial definitely helped). Pokéfans. Easier (but not outright "easy") access to the original Japanese version of the movie also helped, as it motivated quite a few ''Pokémon'' fans who aren't too fond of [=4Kids'=] dub to [[http://youchew.net/forum/index.php?/page/Articles/_/mediareviews/why-pokemon-mewtwo-strikes-back-is-m-r491 revisit the movie]] and develop a more positive opinion.
13th Sep '16 7:31:03 PM shonengirl
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* AnimationAgeGhetto: {{Defied|Trope}} for the Japanese version, according to WordOfGod. Creator/TakeshiShudo states that he made the movie to entertain children and their parents/guardians as well, and that he'd be "slightly embarrassed" by parents who'd just take their children to see the movie as chaperones. It's a shame that, not only did Creator/FourKidsEntertainment dub this as a straight-up kids' film (as opposed to a family film), but later movies in the series would fall squarely into this trope.

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* AnimationAgeGhetto: {{Defied|Trope}} for the Japanese version, according to WordOfGod. Creator/TakeshiShudo states that he made the movie to entertain children and their parents/guardians as well, and that he'd be "slightly embarrassed" by parents who'd just take their children to see the movie as chaperones. It's a shame that, not only did Creator/FourKidsEntertainment dub this as a straight-up kids' film (as opposed to a family film), but many of the later movies in the series would fall squarely into this trope.



* GrowingTheBeard: Specifically in Japanese, as the movie was the first ''Pokémon'' product to implement complex ideas and themes that would give older viewers something to appreciate and think about. While the English dub was much more simplistic, it at least kept the dark tone of the original, and many people still regard it as a step up from the regular episodes.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Specifically in Japanese, as the movie was one of the first ''Pokémon'' product products to implement complex ideas and themes that would give older viewers something to appreciate and think about.about, only beaten out by some early manga or the occasional in-game moment that touched on these (or in the case of ''Manga/PokemonAdventures'', took them and gleefully ran with them over the horizon), with the wider appeal of the anime leaving a heavier impact. While the English dub was much more simplistic, it at least kept the dark tone of the original, and many people still regard it as a step up from the regular episodes.
8th Sep '16 4:34:51 PM Nakayama90
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* AnimationAgeGhetto: {{Defied|Trope}} for the Japanese version, according to WordOfGod. Takeshi Shudo states that he made the movie to entertain children and their parents/guardians as well, and that he'd be "slightly embarrassed" by parents who'd just take their children to see the movie as chaperones. It's a shame that, not only did Creator/FourKidsEntertainment dub this as a straight-up kids' film (as opposed to a family film), but later movies in the series would fall squarely into this trope.

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* AnimationAgeGhetto: {{Defied|Trope}} for the Japanese version, according to WordOfGod. Takeshi Shudo Creator/TakeshiShudo states that he made the movie to entertain children and their parents/guardians as well, and that he'd be "slightly embarrassed" by parents who'd just take their children to see the movie as chaperones. It's a shame that, not only did Creator/FourKidsEntertainment dub this as a straight-up kids' film (as opposed to a family film), but later movies in the series would fall squarely into this trope.
11th Aug '16 2:17:18 AM Kindle4Light
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* FridgeBrilliance: In the games it is said that Mew only appears to those who are pure of heart. Its first appearance in public shows [[BigDamnHeroes it saving Ash]]. Is it a wonder he is TheChosenOne in the second movie?
** Mewtwo being the "strongest" Pokemon ever, when by now (before the release of ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'') it's more of a MemeticBadass than it is actually really powerful, and it's definitely not the most powerful Pokemon ever. Not only was this film released when five of the remaining six regions didn't exist yet (though Johto's games weren't yet released) and all of their unique Pokemon were somehow undiscovered in their own region (barring Unova), but the Psychic typing at the time was broken in a way that made it far too powerful, and Mewtwo is, of course, Psychic. This also handily explains why Shadow Ball did almost nothing to Mew- Ghost typing was miscoded originally and wasn't super effective to Psychic-types. Mewtwo was created to be the most powerful ''Kanto'' Pokemon (as the researchers were basing its power level on the only Pokemon they could- Kanto ones).
** Of course Pikachu's shocks did nothing- considering every known Rock type at the time was part-Ground, and Ash was now stone, it marks the only time Pikachu's attacks are properly useless against a Ground-type (again, Johto wasn't known at the time, it came out later, so Sudowoodo doesn't count).
* FridgeHorror: What happened to all those trainers that didn't make it through the storm?
** They might still be alive, [[spoiler:due to Mewtwo pressing the ResetButton]].
** Ash released all of his Pokémon for the battle with Mewtwo, save Pidgeotto. Does that mean that [[spoiler:when Ash was turned to stone, so was Pidgeotto]]?

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* FridgeBrilliance: In the games it is said that Mew only appears to those who are pure of heart. Its first appearance in public shows [[BigDamnHeroes it saving Ash]]. Is it a wonder he is TheChosenOne in the second movie?
** Mewtwo being the "strongest" Pokemon ever, when by now (before the release of ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'') it's more of a MemeticBadass than it is actually really powerful, and it's definitely not the most powerful Pokemon ever. Not only was this film released when five of the remaining six regions didn't exist yet (though Johto's games weren't yet released) and all of their unique Pokemon were somehow undiscovered in their
Has its own region (barring Unova), but the Psychic typing at the time was broken in a way that made it far too powerful, and Mewtwo is, of course, Psychic. This also handily explains why Shadow Ball did almost nothing to Mew- Ghost typing was miscoded originally and wasn't super effective to Psychic-types. Mewtwo was created to be the most powerful ''Kanto'' Pokemon (as the researchers were basing its power level on the only Pokemon they could- Kanto ones).
** Of course Pikachu's shocks did nothing- considering every known Rock type at the time was part-Ground, and Ash was now stone, it marks the only time Pikachu's attacks are properly useless against a Ground-type (again, Johto wasn't known at the time, it came out later, so Sudowoodo doesn't count).
page [[Fridge/PokemonTheFirstMovie here]].
* FridgeHorror: What happened to all those trainers that didn't make it through the storm?
** They might still be alive, [[spoiler:due to Mewtwo pressing the ResetButton]].
** Ash released all of his Pokémon for the battle with Mewtwo, save Pidgeotto. Does that mean that [[spoiler:when Ash was turned to stone, so was Pidgeotto]]?
Has its own page [[Fridge/PokemonTheFirstMovie here]].
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