History YMMV / PokemonAnime

25th Mar '17 12:20:19 AM DoctorSleep
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*** It could also be considered the Pokemon equivalent to [[Videogome/SonicTheHedgehog Metal Sonic.]] Both resemble twisted versions of their series mascots, both are single-minded and full of hate and both juxtapose the LaughablyEvil main antagonists with their sinister personalities.
17th Mar '17 11:18:23 PM MasterHero
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* IronWoobie: Ash Ketchum never wins any regional tournament, is constantly chased by Team Rocket for his Pokémon, has to see friends go in separate ways to achieve their own dreams and has even died temporarily. But that never stops him from taking joy in his adventures and forming meaningful relationships with the people he knows, not to mention he saves the world on a yearly basis through ThePowerOfFriendship and HeroicResolve. It takes a lot to make Ash depressed, but when that happens, he always finds the strength to soldier on. Respect.
17th Mar '17 3:57:52 AM Forenperser
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* {{Wangst}}: [[{{Jerkass}} Paul]] being the [[BadBoss way he is]] because of his brother losing and giving up his dreams has been met with this response, as it doesn't even ''remotely'' justify anything.
15th Mar '17 10:06:18 PM KrspaceT
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* {{Moe}}: Various Pokemon and Humans have counted as this over time, including Lillie, Shiron, Serena's Eevee, Goomy, and Togepi.
15th Mar '17 9:30:10 PM KrspaceT
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** The aftermath of Ash's first use of a Z-Move.


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** Fans will, inevitably, complain when the show does anything different, and also when it doesn't change enough.


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** Lillie was initially less popular than the other SM girls due to how radically she changed from her game self, who is rather popular. However after Episode 951 and later 957 fleshed her out more she managed to gain many fans who were hesitant to like her at first due to further fleshing out and expansion of her character.
11th Mar '17 10:01:58 AM SenorCornholio
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** Back during the ''Indigo League'', the episode "A Chansey Operation" introduced Doctor Proctor, a callous, lazy physician who would rather flirt with Nurse Joy than lift a finger while off duty. When Team Rocket causes a traffic accident that injures a literal truckful of Pokémon, Nurse Joy essentially commandeers him and his hospital into helping treat the monsters, a decision which he protests strongly. While the episode treats this decision as bad (and his casual attitude is admittedly cruel), he's absolutely right - he's a physician, not a veterinarian (or the Pokémon equivalent). He has little knowledge about their reactions to certain medicines or proper temperatures, if he had to do a major operation there would be no guarantee that he would have the faintest idea which major organs did what, never mind that a large number of the Pokémon are very dangerous and hard to control (many were severely agitated to the point that Ash and company had to use their own Pokémon to subdue them). If anything, he's being more responsible than the trio or Nurse Joy. She never seemed to consider just using the clearly established Pokémon teleportation technology to send them to another Pokémon Center.

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** Back during the ''Indigo League'', the episode "A Chansey Operation" introduced Doctor Proctor, a callous, lazy physician who would rather flirt with Nurse Joy than lift a finger while off duty. When Team Rocket causes a traffic accident that injures a literal truckful of Pokémon, Nurse Joy essentially commandeers him and his hospital into helping treat the monsters, a decision which he protests strongly. While the episode treats this decision as bad (and his casual attitude is admittedly cruel), he's absolutely right - he's a physician, not a veterinarian (or the Pokémon equivalent). He has little knowledge about their reactions to certain medicines or proper temperatures, if he had to do a major operation there would be no guarantee that he would have the faintest idea which major organs did what, never mind that a large number of the Pokémon are very dangerous and hard to control (many were severely agitated to the point that Ash and company had to use their own Pokémon to subdue them).them and one of them, an agitated Dodrio, ended up accidentally sedating the doctor in question). If anything, he's being more responsible than the trio or Nurse Joy. She never seemed to consider just using the clearly established Pokémon teleportation technology to send them to another Pokémon Center.
11th Mar '17 7:56:52 AM ExSlacker
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** Iris's Dragonite. Legitimate Badass, or a poor clone of Charizard's story that gave Iris undeserved victory?

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** Iris's Iris' Dragonite. Legitimate Badass, or a poor clone of Charizard's story that gave Iris undeserved victory?



** Team Galactic's (and Cyrus' in particular) comes when Cyrus ordering Mars to blow up Iron Island (full of people and Pokémon) after Team Galactic have finished scanning Mt. Coronet. And he sported a SlasherSmile when he gave that order. And the reason behind this order? Just to ''make a statement'' about Team Galactic and the "new world". The guy's an OmnicidalManiac par excellence, after all. Cyrus's plan to destroy the universe and create a new world in his image qualifies too.

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** Team Galactic's (and Cyrus' in particular) comes when Cyrus ordering Mars to blow up Iron Island (full of people and Pokémon) after Team Galactic have finished scanning Mt. Coronet. And he sported a SlasherSmile when he gave that order. And the reason behind this order? Just to ''make a statement'' about Team Galactic and the "new world". The guy's an OmnicidalManiac par excellence, after all. Cyrus's Cyrus' plan to destroy the universe and create a new world in his image qualifies too.



** Ash's Charizard, of all characters, became this during ''Black & White''. He's added to Ash's Unova team (sending away Unfezant in the process) and rarely, if ever, has any interaction with any of the Unova Pokémon outside of Iris's Dragonite, whose rivalry with him ends as soon it is introduced, and Ash's Pignite, who N states they already have a good friendship but otherwise show the same concern for each other as they would with other Pokémon. They may has well have had Ash send Charizard back to regain Unfezant.

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** Ash's Charizard, of all characters, became this during ''Black & White''. He's added to Ash's Unova team (sending away Unfezant in the process) and rarely, if ever, has any interaction with any of the Unova Pokémon outside of Iris's Iris' Dragonite, whose rivalry with him ends as soon it is introduced, and Ash's Pignite, who N states they already have a good friendship but otherwise show the same concern for each other as they would with other Pokémon. They may has well have had Ash send Charizard back to regain Unfezant.
11th Mar '17 7:54:23 AM ExSlacker
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** In "Ditto's Mysterious Mansion", Team Rocket take Duplica's Ditto and say that they'll "have some fun [with it] before we hand it over to the boss!" Ditto is notorious for being able to breed with any Pokemon than can lay eggs, so Team Rocket sound like they are going to put their new Ditto through just that. Then again, this episode was released ''before'' breeding became a mechanic.

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** In "Ditto's Mysterious Mansion", Team Rocket take Duplica's Ditto and say that they'll "have some fun [with it] before we hand it over to the boss!" Ditto is notorious for being able to breed with any Pokemon Pokémon than can lay eggs, so Team Rocket sound like they are going to put their new Ditto through just that. Then again, this episode was released ''before'' breeding became a mechanic.



** Alain's inner dialogue gets a bit... ''peculiar'' during his battle with Ash in the finals of the Kalos League. It's meant to be Alain showing how much he considers Ash a WorthyOpponent, but the dialogue seems to imply something else. Not helped by the fact Alain participated in the League (and collected all the needed badges) ''just'' to battle Ash.

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** Alain's inner dialogue gets a bit... ''peculiar'' during his battle with Ash in the finals of the Kalos League. It's meant to be Alain showing how much he considers Ash a WorthyOpponent, but the dialogue seems to imply something else. Not helped by the fact Alain participated in the League (and collected all the needed badges) ''just'' to battle Ash.



** Ritchie as the physical representation of Ash's potential when not weighed down by his negative attributes and the StatusQuoIsGod constraints of a cartoon LongRunner is a popular interpretation of him... usually held by the people who don't [[TheScrappy hate his guts]].

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** Ritchie as the physical representation of Ash's potential when not weighed down by his negative attributes and the StatusQuoIsGod constraints of a cartoon LongRunner is a popular interpretation of him... usually held by the people who don't [[TheScrappy hate his guts]].



** In ''Battle Aboard the St. Anne'', the captain decides to "test out one of the life boats". Then take a look at what happened in Korea in 2015.



** In "So You're Having a Bad Day!", Bonnie receives a fortune saying she's going to have her "worst day ever". This episode was first aired in the US on July 11, 2015, which, for many Nintendo fans, [[Creator/SatoruIwata did indeed become a very bad day.]] [[note]]Although Nintendo didn't announce it to the public until two days later.[[/note]]



** In ''Battle Aboard the St. Anne'', the captain decides to "test out one of the life boats". Then take a look at what happened in Korea in 2015.
** In "So You're Having a Bad Day!", Bonnie receives a fortune saying she's going to have her "worst day ever". This episode was first aired in the US on July 11, 2015, which, for many Nintendo fans, [[Creator/SatoruIwata did indeed become a very bad day.]] [[note]]Although Nintendo didn't announce it to the public until two days later.[[/note]]



** Episode 8 features A.J., an unofficial gym leader who puts his Pokémon through TrainingFromHell by fastening them with a "strength intensifier", a restraint that unlocks a Pokémon's potential but restricts movement. In Generation 3, cue the Macho Brace, an actual held item that... unlocks a Pokémon's potential but restricts movement. In-game art of the Macho Brace suggests it actually is the same item.
** In the same episode, there's A.J'S Sandshrew, who unlike wild Sandshrew can tolerate going for a swim. In Generation VII, Alolan Sandshrew shows up... and since It's part ice type it likely wouldn't mind going for a swim so long as it's cold water.

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** Episode 8 features A.J., an unofficial gym leader who puts his Pokémon through TrainingFromHell by fastening them with a "strength intensifier", a restraint that unlocks a Pokémon's potential but restricts movement. In Generation 3, cue the Macho Brace, an actual held item that... unlocks a Pokémon's potential but restricts movement. In-game art of the Macho Brace suggests it actually is the same item.
** In the same episode, there's A.J'S Sandshrew, who unlike wild Sandshrew can tolerate going for a swim. In Generation VII, Alolan Sandshrew shows up... and since It's part ice type it likely wouldn't mind going for a swim so long as it's cold water.



* MemeticMutation: [[Memes/{{Pokemon}} Chock full of em]].

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* MemeticMutation: [[Memes/{{Pokemon}} Chock full of em]].'em]].



** Cilan is often depicted as a BitchInSheepsClothing who murders and eats his Pokemon, due to his catch phrases, "It's tasting time!" and "I caught a/n [X POKEMON] with good taste!". Episode 19 introduced his rival, who claimed that Cilan was a monster when she battled him, complete with SlasherSmile. Naturally, this got more notice from the fandom: when he's not portrayed as [[MemeticMolester her rapist]], he's thought of as a psychological torturer.

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** Cilan is often depicted as a BitchInSheepsClothing who murders and eats his Pokemon, Pokémon, due to his catch phrases, "It's tasting time!" and "I caught a/n [X POKEMON] POKÉMON] with good taste!". Episode 19 introduced his rival, who claimed that Cilan was a monster when she battled him, complete with SlasherSmile. Naturally, this got more notice from the fandom: when he's not portrayed as [[MemeticMolester her rapist]], he's thought of as a psychological torturer.



** Serena's [[http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/327/b/8/la_expresi_oacute_n_de_serena_by_angylopez-d6vd2bw.png reaction]] seen here is supposed to come off as a heartwarming moment during her reunion with Ash. Instead, the look comes off kind of hilarious due to how over-the-top her eyes are drawn here... [[AccidentalNightmareFuel and maybe even a bit creepy]].

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** Serena's [[http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/327/b/8/la_expresi_oacute_n_de_serena_by_angylopez-d6vd2bw.png reaction]] seen here is supposed to come off as a heartwarming moment during her reunion with Ash. Instead, the look comes off kind of hilarious due to how over-the-top her eyes are drawn here... [[AccidentalNightmareFuel and maybe even a bit creepy]].



** There's a reason why Porygon, a.k.a. 'The Seizure Pokémon', is never seen in the anime anymore and its evolutions are never seen in the anime, ''period''... even though it was ''Pikachu'' that actually caused the seizures in the Porygon episode.

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** There's a reason why Porygon, a.k.a. 'The Seizure Pokémon', is never seen in the anime anymore and its evolutions are never seen in the anime, ''period''... even though it was ''Pikachu'' that actually caused the seizures in the Porygon episode.



** A good chunk of the games' PeripheryDemographic (especially in the West) dislike or outright hate the show for various reasons[[note]]some of the more common ones including: a lack of ParentalBonus, the show's AdaptationDisplacement in pop culture, and fear that elements from the anime - or at least the more controversial bits (such as PokemonSpeak and strange portrayals of Pokémon species) will [[CanonImmigrant make their way into future games]][[/note]] but a small following of teenagers and young adults exists. The anime writers seemed to ignore this, [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids to the dismay of said demographic]]... until the ''XY'' season, where the animation and writing were kicked up a notch and the Mega Evolution specials were made to draw in older viewers. Despite this, the show is still ultimately meant to be static and advertise the franchise to kids, resulting in some painful enforcement of StatusQuoIsGod (especially the League finals). Additionally, Pokémon Inc. creates separate animated features that [[PanderingToTheBase deal with many of the older fans' wishes]], such as ''Anime/PokemonOrigins'' and ''Anime/PokemonGenerations'', which are meant to appeal to a wider demographic.

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** A good chunk of the games' PeripheryDemographic (especially in the West) dislike or outright hate the show for various reasons[[note]]some of the more common ones including: a lack of ParentalBonus, the show's AdaptationDisplacement in pop culture, and fear that elements from the anime - or at least the more controversial bits (such as PokemonSpeak and strange portrayals of Pokémon species) will [[CanonImmigrant make their way into future games]][[/note]] but a small following of teenagers and young adults exists. The anime writers seemed to ignore this, [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids to the dismay of said demographic]]... until the ''XY'' season, where the animation and writing were kicked up a notch and the Mega Evolution specials were made to draw in older viewers. Despite this, the show is still ultimately meant to be static and advertise the franchise to kids, resulting in some painful enforcement of StatusQuoIsGod (especially the League finals). Additionally, Pokémon Inc. creates separate animated features that [[PanderingToTheBase deal with many of the older fans' wishes]], such as ''Anime/PokemonOrigins'' and ''Anime/PokemonGenerations'', which are meant to appeal to a wider demographic.



* SavedByTheFans: The Team Rocket trio were planned to be PutOnABus during ''Best Wishes'' (and their previous Pokemon team ''were'' PutOnABus for that series). However fans of the trio, including those in the production team, decided against the idea, and so they returned for the second half of the series, [[CharacterRerailment along with their fan favoured goofy personalities from previous seasons]]. A podcast vote also asked for the fanbase's favourite Team Rocket Pokemon to return, with Wobbuffet back with the trio in ''XY''.

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* SavedByTheFans: The Team Rocket trio were planned to be PutOnABus during ''Best Wishes'' (and their previous Pokemon Pokémon team ''were'' PutOnABus for that series). However fans of the trio, including those in the production team, decided against the idea, and so they returned for the second half of the series, [[CharacterRerailment along with their fan favoured goofy personalities from previous seasons]]. A podcast vote also asked for the fanbase's favourite Team Rocket Pokemon Pokémon to return, with Wobbuffet back with the trio in ''XY''.



** Several early episodes were about Ash learning important life lessons... except the show would deliver these lessons [[DiabolusExMachina after giving Ash such a raw deal]] that the audience would take his side.
*** In the show's fourth episode, Ash encounters fellow trainer [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Samurai]], who rakes him over the coals for the novice mistakes of letting a Weedle get away and letting his Metapod get kidnapped by a Beedrill swarm. Thing is, the Weedle actually got away because Samurai rudely intervened right as Ash was about to attempt the catch (sticking a ''katana'' in his face and demanding a battle), giving the bug time to recover and escape. Later, Samurai indicates that the Beedrill swarm only mustered because that same Weedle went to gather them, conveniently ignoring the fact that the swarm is therefore his fault. During a rescue attempt, Ash tries to excuse himself by pointing out that he got sidetracked and that it's Samurai who's ''really'' to blame, which the writers would have you believe is a case of NeverMyFault... [[BrokenAesop except he's correct in this case]] and it's ''Samurai'' who's been deflecting the blame. Ash's actual mistake in this episode is [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny standing around gawking]] at the Beedrill swarm rather than getting himself and his Pokemon the hell outta dodge, but he can't be blamed for failing to anticipate [[DiabolusExMachina Spontaneous Beedrill Kidnapping Syndrome]], and it should be noted he takes immediate measures to try and rectify it... not that Metapod cares, since it also blames Ash for the disaster.

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** Several early episodes were about Ash learning important life lessons... except the show would deliver these lessons [[DiabolusExMachina after giving Ash such a raw deal]] that the audience would take his side.
*** In the show's fourth episode, Ash encounters fellow trainer [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Samurai]], who rakes him over the coals for the novice mistakes of letting a Weedle get away and letting his Metapod get kidnapped by a Beedrill swarm. Thing is, the Weedle actually got away because Samurai rudely intervened right as Ash was about to attempt the catch (sticking a ''katana'' in his face and demanding a battle), giving the bug time to recover and escape. Later, Samurai indicates that the Beedrill swarm only mustered because that same Weedle went to gather them, conveniently ignoring the fact that the swarm is therefore his fault. During a rescue attempt, Ash tries to excuse himself by pointing out that he got sidetracked and that it's Samurai who's ''really'' to blame, which the writers would have you believe is a case of NeverMyFault... [[BrokenAesop except he's correct in this case]] and it's ''Samurai'' who's been deflecting the blame. Ash's actual mistake in this episode is [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny standing around gawking]] at the Beedrill swarm rather than getting himself and his Pokemon Pokémon the hell outta dodge, but he can't be blamed for failing to anticipate [[DiabolusExMachina Spontaneous Beedrill Kidnapping Syndrome]], and it should be noted he takes immediate measures to try and rectify it... it...not that Metapod cares, since it also blames Ash for the disaster.



** On to the topic on N himself, Ash's way of adventuring and his relationship to his Pokemon would have made him the '''''ULTIMATE FOIL''''' to what he thinks is the average trainer and would have punched more holes in his logic even more so then Hilbert or Hilda (the Pokémon Black and White protagonists) ever could. Not to mention the ideological battle between Ash and King Plasma N would most likely would have been the greatest highlight of the entire series. Instead, N and Team Plasma are already in their ''Black 2 / White 2'' selves while Ash ended up hitting [[TookALevelInDumbass his dumbest point in the series]].

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** On to the topic on N himself, Ash's way of adventuring and his relationship to his Pokemon Pokémon would have made him the '''''ULTIMATE FOIL''''' to what he thinks is the average trainer and would have punched more holes in his logic even more so then Hilbert or Hilda (the Pokémon Black and White protagonists) ever could. Not to mention the ideological battle between Ash and King Plasma N would most likely would have been the greatest highlight of the entire series. Instead, N and Team Plasma are already in their ''Black 2 / White 2'' selves while Ash ended up hitting [[TookALevelInDumbass his dumbest point in the series]].



** Given the entire premise of the show involves catching Pokemon, the trio are sometimes condemned and attacked even when they try to take Pokemon or other goods through legitimate means or with a sympathetic motive. Some of their punishments can also get incredibly vicious in some of their more pitiful bouts as well (sometimes characters have had to maintain their "Blasting off" RunningGag [[DisproportionateRetribution for very petty reasons]]). Throughout Hoenn and Sinnoh in particular, they were so much more [[StrawLoser loser]] than actual villain it verged on depressing.

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** Given the entire premise of the show involves catching Pokemon, Pokémon, the trio are sometimes condemned and attacked even when they try to take Pokemon Pokémon or other goods through legitimate means or with a sympathetic motive. Some of their punishments can also get incredibly vicious in some of their more pitiful bouts as well (sometimes characters have had to maintain their "Blasting off" RunningGag [[DisproportionateRetribution for very petty reasons]]). Throughout Hoenn and Sinnoh in particular, they were so much more [[StrawLoser loser]] than actual villain it verged on depressing.



** Their Pokemon even more so. Most of them are portrayed as more loyal and loving to Jesse and James than malicious in any way, and a lot of them (especially James') are blessed with heart wrenchingly cute designs and dispositions, making a lot of the heroes' smug {{Curbstomp Battle}}s against them look like vicious KickTheDog moments.

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** Their Pokemon Pokémon even more so. Most of them are portrayed as more loyal and loving to Jesse and James than malicious in any way, and a lot of them (especially James') are blessed with heart wrenchingly cute designs and dispositions, making a lot of the heroes' smug {{Curbstomp Battle}}s against them look like vicious KickTheDog moments.



* ViewerGenderConfusion: Gendered pronouns are almost never used to refer to Pokemon, thus an official confirmation usually has to be plot required [[note]]a Pokemon falling in love for example[[/note]] or involve certain gender mechanics from the games being adapted [[note]]a Pokemon with gender specific quirks or the Charm attack being used[[/note]].

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Gendered pronouns are almost never used to refer to Pokemon, Pokémon, thus an official confirmation usually has to be plot required [[note]]a Pokemon Pokémon falling in love for example[[/note]] or involve certain gender mechanics from the games being adapted [[note]]a Pokemon Pokémon with gender specific quirks or the Charm attack being used[[/note]].



*** Hell, most of Team Rocket's Pokemon are this or a {{Jerkass Woobie}}, even Jessie, James and Meowth a lot of the time. Sure they try to steal Pokemon and look like evil villains, but it's all just in desire to please their boss and have some sort of impact for once. Not to mention they're nearly all TrueCompanions and once a member has to depart, it's usually as big a TearJerker as for one of the heroes. Take Dustox, Cacnea, and Chimecho as further evidence.

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*** Hell, most of Team Rocket's Pokemon Pokémon are this or a {{Jerkass Woobie}}, even Jessie, James and Meowth a lot of the time. Sure they try to steal Pokemon Pokémon and look like evil villains, but it's all just in desire to please their boss and have some sort of impact for once. Not to mention they're nearly all TrueCompanions and once a member has to depart, it's usually as big a TearJerker as for one of the heroes. Take Dustox, Cacnea, and Chimecho as further evidence.evidence.
** The Abra in "Fear Factor Phony." It was left behind by its owners and left to live in old, abandoned, dilapidated building and always tormented about its abandonment (as seen by its dream). Furthermore, it was demonized by the ghost Pokémon and Team Rocket thanks to its siblings obnoxious behavior, despite it probably hated the noise as well, hence the force field.



** The Abra in "Fear Factor Phony." It was left behind by its owners and left to live in old, abandoned, dilapidated building and always tormented about its abandonment (as seen by its dream). Furthermore, it was demonized by the ghost Pokémon and Team Rocket thanks to its siblings obnoxious behavior, despite it probably hated the noise as well, hence the force field.



** All of Team Rocket's English Mottos. Don't you dare deny it.
** When the Squirtle Squad holds Misty hostage in Squirtle's debut episode, they originally threatened to kill her if Ash didn't do what they say. In the English dub, they threaten to dye her hair purple (which Misty is equally upset about). It might be censorship, but not only is it way funnier, it makes more sense given her reaction.



** Team Rocket's English Motto. Don't you dare deny it.
** When the Squirtle gang holds Misty hostage in Squirtle's debut episode, they originally threatened to kill her if Ash didn't do what they say. In the English dub, they threaten to dye her hair purple (which Misty is equally upset about). It might be censorship, but not only is it way funnier, it makes more sense given her reaction.
** Thus far, many of Samson Oak's Pokemon puns have translated very awkwardly. Since the puns are ''supposed'' to be cringeworthy however...

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** Team Rocket's English Motto. Don't you dare deny it.
** When the Squirtle gang holds Misty hostage in Squirtle's debut episode, they originally threatened to kill her if Ash didn't do what they say. In the English dub, they threaten to dye her hair purple (which Misty is equally upset about). It might be censorship, but not only is it way funnier, it makes more sense given her reaction.
** Thus far, many of Samson Oak's Pokemon Pokémon puns have translated very awkwardly. Since the puns are ''supposed'' to be cringeworthy however...
8th Mar '17 12:53:46 PM N8han11
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** Brendan and Lucas, the respective male player characters from the third and fourth generation games, are reduced to cameo appearances in a handful of the movies.

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** Brendan Brendan, Lucas and Lucas, Calem, the respective male player characters from the third and third, fourth and sixth generation games, are reduced to cameo appearances in a handful of the movies.
8th Mar '17 12:15:23 PM N8han11
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*** Then again, Suzy's reappearance in Johto ''did'' say that making Pokémon look outwardly beautiful and fashionable is okay so long as the Pokémon consents to it and the human doesn't forget about the Pokémon's inner worth.
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