History YMMV / PersonOfInterest

12th Apr '17 9:00:33 PM GhostLad
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** [[spoiler Quinn takes a flying leap off it by assenting to the murder of his own godson.]]

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** [[spoiler Quinn [[spoiler:Quinn takes a flying leap off it by assenting to the murder of his own godson.]]
22nd Mar '17 10:14:56 AM Gaon
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* CreatorsPet:
** Root has been accused of this. The writers admitted to [[CreatorsFavorite loving her]], there's the recurring complaint is that she has a [[CharacterFocus ridiculous amount of screen-time]], is [[CharacterShilling talked up]] by Team Machine and is a [[BoringInvincibleHero unbeatable]] SpotlightStealingSquad. [[LoveItOrHateIt Other portions of the fanbase dispute this]].
** There were similar complaints about Sameen Shaw in Season 3.
2nd Mar '17 10:30:33 AM mlsmithca
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* SugarWiki/SoCoolItsAwesome: A lot of what Team Machine pulls off on an episode by episode basis falls into this category.
14th Feb '17 8:04:38 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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* {{Asspull}}: The ICE-9 virus is an example of a poor execution of ChekhovsGun. It is introduced out of the blue in the third-to-last episode with the sole purpose of destroying Samaritan two episodes later, and much of the uncertainty surrounding it is in regards to [[spoiler:the fact that it will destroy The Machine as well]].



** Just going by the forums at [[http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3205428&st=1590 Television Without Pity]] Detective Carter or her actress, Taraji P. Henson, were this in the first season. Inverted as of the Season 3 "[[Recap/PersonOfInterestS03E08 Endgame]]" [[Recap/PersonOfInterestS03E09 three]]-Recap/{{p|ersonOfInterestS03E10}}arter, with Carter now being considered one of the most popular and beloved characters and [[spoiler: her death leading to a violent on-line backlash and much tension between those that despised the move to kill her off and those that accepted the decision or the way that her death played out as she successfully rended the big bad HR useless and after what she did, even if they tried to rebuild, they could never be as strong as they were and have as much influence as they had.]]

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** Just going by the forums at [[http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3205428&st=1590 Television Without Pity]] Detective Carter or her actress, Taraji P. Henson, were this in the first season. Inverted as of the Season 3 "[[Recap/PersonOfInterestS03E08 Endgame]]" [[Recap/PersonOfInterestS03E09 three]]-Recap/{{p|ersonOfInterestS03E10}}arter, with Carter now being considered one of the most popular and beloved characters and [[spoiler: her [[spoiler:her death leading to a violent on-line online backlash and much tension between those that despised the move to kill her off and those that accepted the decision or the way that her death played out as she successfully rended the big bad HR useless and after what she did, even if they tried to rebuild, they could never be as strong as they were and have as much influence as they had.]]



* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: It can be hard to get into the show and grow to care for anyone if you started watching it late, knowing how everything goes to hell in Season 4, how Decima is fast approaching Villain Sue status, and how Bear is the only character the writers have explicitly said they won't kill off.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: It can be hard to get into the show and grow to care for anyone if you started watching it late, knowing how everything goes to hell in Season 4, how Decima is fast approaching Villain Sue status, and how Bear is the only character the writers have explicitly said they won't would not kill off.



* FanficFuel: With the reveal that the Machine is running teams across the US in response to Samaritan's threats.
* FoeYay:
** Root and Shaw at first (they are not foes anymore). WordOfGod outright confirms this.
-->'''Amy Acker:''' She likes messing with her. There's an underlying competitiveness throughout, whether it seems funny or sexual or whatever. Each of them wants to be the alpha dog in the relationship.
** Root/Shaw has become the FanPreferredCouple.
** "If-Then-Else" has Shaw kiss Root, seemingly confirming that attraction is mutual.
*** Amy Acker and Sarah Shahi [[WordOfGod confirmed]] at NYCC that the attraction is mutual and will be explored in season 5.

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* FanficFuel: With the The reveal that the Machine is running other teams across the US in response addition to Samaritan's threats.
* FoeYay:
** Root and Shaw at first (they are not foes anymore). WordOfGod outright confirms this.
-->'''Amy Acker:''' She likes messing with her. There's an underlying competitiveness throughout, whether it seems funny or sexual or whatever. Each of them wants to be the alpha dog in the relationship.
** Root/Shaw has become the FanPreferredCouple.
** "If-Then-Else" has Shaw kiss Root, seemingly confirming that attraction is mutual.
*** Amy Acker and Sarah Shahi [[WordOfGod confirmed]] at NYCC that the attraction is mutual and will be explored in season 5.
its main one.



** "[[Recap/PersonOfInterestS03E23 Deus Ex Machina]]"; translating as "god from the machine"...It also refers to the situation which Harold finds himself in at the climax. Alone and with no one seemingly coming to save him from the Decima Employee aiming a Glock 19 at him, Reese barely manages to get up there in time and screw up the man's aim.

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** "[[Recap/PersonOfInterestS03E23 Deus Ex Machina]]"; translating as "god from the machine"...It also refers to the situation which Harold finds himself in at the climax. Alone and with no one seemingly coming to save him from the Decima Employee Lambert aiming a Glock 19 at him, Reese barely manages to get up there in time and screw up the man's Lambert's aim.



* HoYay: John and Harold are drowning in it.
** Female example: Carter and Shaw, at times. Shaw's perpetual look of fangirlish adoration every time Carter does something badass may have something to do with it.
** Shaw and a Person of Interest, Kelli.
** Root and Shaw, the averted torture scene in "Relevance" was full of it. It was also when the writers realised the amazing chemistry happening between Amy Acker and Sarah Shahi.
** In "The Devil's Share", when Root combines GunsAkimbo with ImprobableAimingSkills (thanks to God Mode) to dish out kneecaps, what's Shaw's reaction? "That was kinda hot.".
** In the second half of season 3, Root is basically openly flirting with her in most of their scenes together.
--->'''Shaw:''' ''(after examining the bandages on Root's ear and chest)'' Keep 'em dry. Change the dressing every 72 hours.
--->'''Root:''' I love it when you [[PlayingDoctor play doctor.]]
*** In [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/30/person-of-interest-root-is-out-to-take-down-samaritan this interview]] with Creator/AmyAcker, she [[WordOfGod confirms]] confirms that their threats of violence are their way of flirting.
*** And as of season 4 ''Prophets'', it's almost certainly official.
--->'''Root:''' If the worst comes to pass, if you could give Shaw a message?
--->'''Finch:''' I think she already knows.
*** In "Honor Among Thieves," Root implied that it's been canon since "Mors Praematura." Apparently they had ten hours to kill (and hoods and zip ties) in the CIA safehouse.
*** And undeniably official as of "If-Then-Else," which has Root outright comment on how great the two are together and question the possibility of them becoming a couple, and then has Shaw kiss Root before sacrificing herself to save everybody. Also, earlier on the episode, Shaw tells the suicidal man in the subway that ""If you wanna die, okay. But die for something that you love".
*** Any residual doubt you may still have will be taken care of by the bedroom scene in "[[Recap/PersonOfInterestS05E04 6,741]]."

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* HoYay: John and Harold are drowning in it.
** Female example: Carter and Shaw, at times. Shaw's perpetual look of fangirlish adoration every time Carter does something badass may have something to do with it.
** Shaw and a Person of Interest, Kelli.
** Root and Shaw, the averted torture scene in "Relevance" was full of it. It was also when the writers realised the amazing chemistry happening between Amy Acker and Sarah Shahi.
** In "The Devil's Share", when Root combines GunsAkimbo with ImprobableAimingSkills (thanks to God Mode) to dish out kneecaps, what's Shaw's reaction? "That was kinda hot.".
** In the second half of season 3, Root is basically openly flirting with her in most of their scenes together.
--->'''Shaw:''' ''(after examining the bandages on Root's ear and chest)'' Keep 'em dry. Change the dressing every 72 hours.
--->'''Root:''' I love it when you [[PlayingDoctor play doctor.]]
*** In [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/30/person-of-interest-root-is-out-to-take-down-samaritan this interview]] with Creator/AmyAcker, she [[WordOfGod confirms]] confirms that their threats of violence are their way of flirting.
*** And as of season 4 ''Prophets'', it's almost certainly official.
--->'''Root:''' If the worst comes to pass, if you could give Shaw a message?
--->'''Finch:''' I think she already knows.
*** In "Honor Among Thieves," Root implied that it's been canon since "Mors Praematura." Apparently they had ten hours to kill (and hoods and zip ties) in the CIA safehouse.
*** And undeniably official as of "If-Then-Else," which has Root outright comment on how great the two are together and question the possibility of them becoming a couple, and then has Shaw kiss Root before sacrificing herself to save everybody. Also, earlier on the episode, Shaw tells the suicidal man in the subway that ""If you wanna die, okay. But die for something that you love".
*** Any residual doubt you may still have will be taken care of by the bedroom scene in "[[Recap/PersonOfInterestS05E04 6,741]]."
[[HoYay/PersonOfInterest Has its own page.]]



** Link, [[TheDragon Dragon]] of the Brotherhood and established [[WouldHurtAChild child-harmer]], actually shows respect for Scarface even while he's captured, and also genuinely cares about his men. When Dominic dismisses the losses incurred during [[spoiler:the raid on the abandoned building that leads to Scarface's death]] by saying "WeHaveReserves", Link is shocked, and having been asked by Scarface earlier if Link and Dominic have the same mutual loyalty to each other as him and Elias, it seems like his boss just sowed the seeds of a future betrayal. Fast forward to his next appearance at the end of the season, and the Brotherhood learns there's a mole for Elias in the ranks. Think it's Link? Yes and no. [[spoiler:Yes because that's what Dominic is led to believe, causing him to shoot Link dead; no because it was all a setup by Elias as revenge on Dominic for Scarface's death, and Link had nothing to do with it.]] If [[spoiler:Link had showed genuine intent to jump ship]], this would have qualified as a full-fledged HeelFaceDoorSlam.



** [[spoiler: Quinn takes a flying leap off it by assenting to the murder of his own godson.]]

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** [[spoiler: [[spoiler Quinn takes a flying leap off it by assenting to the murder of his own godson.]]



** If the fact that Finch [[spoiler:created a sentient being, his child for all intents and purposes, and put in a program that basically forces it to kill itself over and over again every midnight]] isn't a MEH, I don't know what is. Later subverted when he then provided it a way to free itself. In Finch's defense, [[spoiler:the machine wasn't supposed to develop a personality, and it processes millions of people's information. It absolutely has to remain unbiased. He couldn't leave that much power in the hands of what would essentially be an infant]].
** Northern Lights decides to let a terrorist attack occur, knowingly condemning innocent citizens to their deaths, in order to get to Nathan Ingram.

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** If the fact that Finch [[spoiler:created created a sentient being, his child for all intents and purposes, and put then [[spoiler:put in a program that basically forces it to kill itself over and over again every midnight]] isn't a MEH, I don't know what is.midnight]]. Later subverted when he then provided it a way to free itself. In Finch's defense, [[spoiler:the machine [[spoiler:The Machine wasn't supposed to develop a personality, and it processes millions of people's information. It absolutely has to remain unbiased. He couldn't leave that much power in the hands of what would essentially be an infant]].
** Northern Lights decides to let a terrorist attack occur, knowingly condemning innocent citizens to their deaths, in order to get to kill Nathan Ingram.



** [[DirtyCop Officer Simmons]] [[{{Jerkass}} was never a nice guy]], but most of his actions were just generic bad guy stuff. That is until "The Crossing". If [[spoiler:trying to have Fusco's son killed while Fusco listens helplessly]] didn't cross the line, then [[spoiler:killing Carter]] definitely crossed it. You know you've crossed the line when [[spoiler: [[EvenEvilHasStandards Elias is disgusted]] [[KickTheSonOfABitch and has you killed]]]].
** Greer was always flirting with this, but just avoiding going over the edge; [[spoiler: if kidnapping Grace in "Beta" doesn't count as a MoralEventHorizon, blowing up civilians and policemen for Samaritan to get the government feeds certainly does.]]

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** [[DirtyCop Officer Simmons]] [[{{Jerkass}} was never a nice guy]], but most of his actions were just generic bad guy stuff. That is until "The Crossing". If [[spoiler:trying to have Fusco's son killed while Fusco listens helplessly]] didn't cross the line, then [[spoiler:killing Carter]] definitely crossed it. You know you've crossed the line when [[spoiler: [[EvenEvilHasStandards [[spoiler:[[EvenEvilHasStandards Elias is disgusted]] [[KickTheSonOfABitch and has you killed]]]].
** Greer was always flirting with this, but just avoiding going over the edge; [[spoiler: if [[spoiler:if kidnapping Grace in "Beta" doesn't count as a MoralEventHorizon, blowing up innocent civilians and policemen for Samaritan to get the government feeds certainly does.]]



** Sometimes, even the numbers can cross this.
*** [[PersonOfInterestS03E02 Nothing To Hide]]: Wayne Kruger was already established as a [[{{Jerkass}} major league asshole]], but when he smashed Harold with a vase, it was hard to feel any sympathy for him [[spoiler: when he was killed off shortly after.]]
*** [[PersonOfInterestS04E02 Nautilus]]: The episode ends with [[spoiler: Claire Mahoney joining Samaritan despite Harold's pleading.]] However, [[spoiler: she appears to have learned her lesson as of [[PersonOfInterestS04E15 Q&A]], seeking out Harold's help. But when Harold becomes suspicious, she pulls a gun on him, revealing that this was an elaborate trap all along.]]

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** Sometimes, even the numbers The Machine generates can cross this.
this:
*** [[PersonOfInterestS03E02 Nothing To Hide]]: Wayne Kruger was already established as a [[{{Jerkass}} major league asshole]], but when he smashed Harold with a vase, it was hard to feel any sympathy for him [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when he was killed off shortly after.]]
*** [[PersonOfInterestS04E02 Nautilus]]: The episode ends with [[spoiler: Claire [[spoiler:Claire Mahoney joining Samaritan despite Harold's pleading.]] However, [[spoiler: she appears to have learned her lesson as of [[PersonOfInterestS04E15 Q&A]], seeking out Harold's help. But when Harold becomes suspicious, she pulls a gun on him, revealing that this was an elaborate trap all along.]]



* NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize: Enrico Colantoni and Amy Acker as Elias and Root, respectively.
** Mostly subverted by the premise of the show. Most shows start with a crime and spend the episode connecting it to a person, but this trope often gives away who that person is. An episode of ''Person of Interest'', however, starts with the person, generally played by that week's main guest star, and the mystery is how that person connects to a crime.
** And then possibly deliberately subverted with [[spoiler:the head of Vigilance]], who appears to be a random aide right up until the part where he kills his mark. He's played by a C-list actor - or was at the time.
* OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow: The battle against Samaritan was so one-sided for so long that its defeat could only really come this way; in the end, it took a theretofore unmentioned--yet apparently always available--computer virus to finally bring the A.I. to its knees.

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* NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize: Enrico Colantoni and Amy Acker as Elias and Root, respectively.
**
Mostly subverted by the premise of the show. Most shows start with a crime and spend the episode connecting it to a person, but this trope often gives away who that person is. An episode of ''Person of Interest'', however, starts with the person, generally played by that week's main guest star, and the mystery is how that person connects to a crime.
crime. Despite this, however, there are a couple of straight examples:
** Enrico Colantoni as Elias.
** Amy Acker as Root.
** Camryn Manheim as Control.
** And then possibly deliberately subverted with [[spoiler:the head of Vigilance]], who appears to be a random aide right up until the part where he kills his mark. He's played by a C-list actor - or [[RetroactiveRecognition was at the time.
time]].
* OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow: The battle against Samaritan was so one-sided for so long that its defeat could only really come this way; in the end, it took a theretofore unmentioned--yet apparently always available--computer virus to finally bring the A.I. to its knees. knees; they didn't even try to build on a conversation that implied Samaritan had an AchillesHeel (See TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot below).



** John Greer [[spoiler: the former MI6 officer who acts as Decima Technologies Director Of Operations]] is an epic example. Polite, charming and perhaps one of the most competent antagonists on network TV. He may be old and not look like much but he always controls the situation as [[spoiler: Team Machine and the hacktivist Peter Collier found out to their cost]]. With his [[spoiler: half a centuries worth of experience and the resources under his control he constructs the most devastating BatmanGambit in the show's history to date,]] which ends with him [[spoiler: having subverted the USA with the American public none the wiser and demolishing Team Machine's infrastructure]].
** The Samaritan system. [[spoiler: An A.I with no moral constraints, in possession of all the power The Machine has and has grown beyond its initial programming to inherit ManipulativeBastard traits?]] A recipe for disaster. The only reason why it hasn't dropped the might of American Law Enforcement on Team Machine is due to the [[spoiler: final tampering conducted by Root in Season 3]]. One wrong move will cause it to get a lock on the protagonists and ensure that certain death is the only option.

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** John Greer Greer, [[spoiler: the former MI6 officer who acts as Decima Technologies Director Of Operations]] is an epic example. Polite, charming and perhaps one of the most competent antagonists on network TV. He may be old and not look like much but he always controls the situation as [[spoiler: Team Machine and the hacktivist Peter Collier found out to their cost]]. With his [[spoiler: half a centuries worth of experience and the resources under his control he constructs the most devastating BatmanGambit in the show's history to date,]] which ends with him [[spoiler: having subverted the USA with the American public none the wiser and demolishing Team Machine's infrastructure]].
** The Samaritan system. [[spoiler: An [[spoiler:An A.I with no moral constraints, in possession of all the power The Machine has and has grown beyond its initial programming to inherit ManipulativeBastard traits?]] A recipe for disaster. The only reason why it hasn't dropped the might of American Law Enforcement on Team Machine is due to the [[spoiler: final tampering conducted by Root in Season 3]]. One wrong move will cause it to get a lock on the protagonists and ensure that certain death is the only option.



* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Carter was initially a BaseBreaker when the show began. However her evolution into TheChessmaster in "Endgame" was met with favourable responses from fans and critics alike. This may have contributed to a portion of the fan base having a highly negative reaction [[spoiler:to her demise in "The Crossing"]].
* RetroactiveRecognition: [[Theatre/{{Hamilton}} Aaron Burr]] is the leader of Vigilance.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Carter was initially a BaseBreaker BaseBreakingCharacter when the show began. However However, her evolution into TheChessmaster in "Endgame" was met with favourable responses from fans and critics alike. This may have contributed to a portion of the fan base having a highly negative reaction [[spoiler:to her demise in "The Crossing"]].
* RetroactiveRecognition: [[Theatre/{{Hamilton}} Aaron Burr]] is the leader of Vigilance. Doubles as HilariousInHindsight.



* ScrewedByTheNetwork: [[HopeSpot The fandom rejoiced at the news that CBS renewed]] ''[[HopeSpot Person of Interest]]'' [[HopeSpot for a fifth season after a cancellation scare.]] Mere ''hours'' later, ''Deadline'' reported that the new season would be truncated to 13 episodes and the fans immediately caught on to the fact that it might be the very last season.
** The major fan reaction to this has been that 13 episodes is simply not enough to wrap up the show's ongoing complex storylines (especially before [[spoiler:Creator/SarahShahi's]] return was confirmed) and allow the characters to be fully fleshed out.
** To add salt to the wound, it took a very long time to have a premiere date, may 3rd (the fans nicknamed the date "[=MAYbe=] 3rd" (in reference to Shaw's quote "Maybe Someday"). But soon after, they confirmed that the show was cancelled and season 5 would indeed be the last one.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: [[HopeSpot The fandom rejoiced at the news that CBS renewed]] ''[[HopeSpot Person of Interest]]'' [[HopeSpot for a fifth season after a cancellation scare.]] Mere ''hours'' later, ''Deadline'' reported that the new season would be truncated to 13 episodes and the fans immediately caught on to the fact that it might be the very last season. \n** The major fan reaction to this has been was that 13 episodes is simply not enough to wrap up the show's ongoing complex storylines (especially before [[spoiler:Creator/SarahShahi's]] return was confirmed) and allow the characters to be fully fleshed out.
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out. To add salt to the wound, it took a very long time to have a premiere date, may 3rd (the fans nicknamed the date "[=MAYbe=] 3rd" (in reference to Shaw's quote "Maybe Someday").Someday" from "If-Then-Else"), two days shy of a full year after the end of the previous season. But soon after, they confirmed that the show was cancelled and season 5 would indeed be the last one.



** In "[[Recap/PersonOfInterestS04E22 YHWH]]", Control has a conversation with Garrison that seems to imply that Samaritan can be defeated by pulling its access to the NSA feeds. This seems to finally lay the groundwork for a concrete, defined method Team Machine can kill it with, but come the third-to-last episode, Finch goes out and [[spoiler:procures a computer virus that will destroy both Samaritan ''and'' his own Machine]] instead.

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** In "[[Recap/PersonOfInterestS04E22 YHWH]]", Control has a conversation with Garrison that seems to imply that Samaritan can be defeated by pulling its access to the NSA feeds. This seems to finally lay the groundwork for a concrete, defined method Team Machine can kill it with, but come the third-to-last episode, Finch goes out and [[spoiler:procures procures a [[{{Asspull}} never-before-mentioned]] computer virus that [[spoiler:that will destroy both Samaritan ''and'' his own Machine]] instead.



* TheUntwist: [[spoiler: Carter's new partner Laskey does turn out to be a member of HR. It was so obvious that [[GenreSavvy Carter herself picked up on it the minute she met him and used this against him]].]]

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* TheUntwist: [[spoiler: Carter's [[spoiler:Carter's new partner Laskey does turn out to be a member of HR. It was so obvious that [[GenreSavvy Carter herself picked up on it the minute she met him and used this against him]].]]
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* BaseBreaker: As of Season 4:

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: As of Season 4:
20th Nov '16 5:38:05 PM DoKnowButchie
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* OnlyTheAuthorCanSaveThemNow: The battle against Samaritan was so one-sided for so long that its defeat could only really come this way; in the end, it took a theretofore unmentioned--yet apparently always available--computer virus to finally bring the A.I. to its knees.
8th Nov '16 4:38:04 PM Morgenthaler
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** Female example: Carter and Shaw, at times. Shaw's perpetual look of fangirlish adoration every time Carter does something {{Badass}} may have something to do with it.

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** Female example: Carter and Shaw, at times. Shaw's perpetual look of fangirlish adoration every time Carter does something {{Badass}} badass may have something to do with it.
5th Nov '16 6:20:38 PM bryancrain88
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** Also the reaction of many fans (particularly [[spoiler:Shoot]] shippers) following [[spoiler:Root's death]] in "The Day the World Went Away".
2nd Nov '16 6:29:49 PM k410ren
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* RetroactiveRecognition: [[Theatre/{{Hamilton}} Aaron Burr]] is the leader of Vigilance.
20th Oct '16 7:07:45 AM ChrisTilford
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*** Including one episode of ''Criminal Intent'' where he's a killer dating ''Martine Rousseau.''



*** Including one episode of ''Criminal Intent'' where he's a killer dating ''Martine Rousseau.''
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