History YMMV / OnDeadlyGround

27th Dec '17 2:25:09 PM Frankencastle
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* TakeThatScrappy: For viewers who resent Forrest due to his dickish DesignatedHero tendencies, the wonderful sight of him being viciously mauled by a pack of sled dogs (one of whom actually appears to bite him in the ''[[CrowningMomentOfFunny nuts]]'') is very, ''very'' cathartic to say the least.

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* TakeThatScrappy: For TakeThatScrappy:
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viewers who resent Forrest due to his dickish DesignatedHero tendencies, the wonderful sight of him being viciously mauled by a pack of sled dogs (one of whom actually appears to bite him in the ''[[CrowningMomentOfFunny nuts]]'') is very, ''very'' cathartic to say the least.least.
** Although it was likely unintentional, hearing Hughs call Forrest a "whore" is very amusing.
27th Dec '17 2:21:23 PM Frankencastle
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: One of the many reasons behind why the film was verbally eviscerated by both critics and audiences alike, stems from the movie being a hybrid of action mixed in with an ''extremely'' {{Anvilicious}} GreenAesop. Action fans (and really most audiences in general) are likely to be turned off by how heavy handed the environmentalist message is and environmentalist will most likely be put off by the [[{{Gorn gratuitous]] levels of violence. Is it any wonder the movie bombed?

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: One of the many reasons behind why the film was verbally eviscerated by both critics and audiences alike, stems from the movie being a hybrid of action mixed in with an ''extremely'' {{Anvilicious}} GreenAesop. Action fans (and really most audiences in general) are likely to be turned off by how heavy handed the environmentalist message is and environmentalist will most likely be put off by the [[{{Gorn [[{{Gorn}} gratuitous]] levels of violence. Is it any wonder the movie bombed?


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* TakeThatScrappy: For viewers who resent Forrest due to his dickish DesignatedHero tendencies, the wonderful sight of him being viciously mauled by a pack of sled dogs (one of whom actually appears to bite him in the ''[[CrowningMomentOfFunny nuts]]'') is very, ''very'' cathartic to say the least.
27th Dec '17 2:17:35 PM Frankencastle
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: One of the many reasons behind why the film was verbally eviscerated by both critics and audiences alike, stems from the movie being a hybrid of action mixed in with an ''extremely'' {{Anvilicious}} GreenAesop. Action fans (and really most audiences in general) are likely to be turned off by how heavy handed the environmentalist message is and environmentalist will most likely be put off by the [[{{Gorn gratuitous]] levels of violence. Is it any wonder the movie bombed?



* VanityProject: Obviously. The CharacterShilling, the AuthorFilibuster at the end. Not to mention that Seagal's character is essentially an [[DesignatedHero insufferable]] GodModeSue of the highest caliber, who wins all his fights easily, making this trope all the more obvious.

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* VanityProject: Obviously. The CharacterShilling, the AuthorFilibuster at the end. Not to mention that Seagal's character is essentially an [[DesignatedHero insufferable]] GodModeSue of the highest caliber, who wins all his fights easily, making this trope all the more obvious.easily.
19th Dec '17 3:12:39 PM Frankencastle
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* VanityProject: Obviously.

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* VanityProject: Obviously. The CharacterShilling, the AuthorFilibuster at the end. Not to mention that Seagal's character is essentially an [[DesignatedHero insufferable]] GodModeSue of the highest caliber, who wins all his fights easily, making this trope all the more obvious.
19th Dec '17 3:04:36 PM Frankencastle
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Forrest comes off several times in the film as a psychopath. What Jennings is trying to do is wrong, but Forrest commits eco-terrorism on a grand scale, murdering several people in the facility, including people who are unarmed and unable to defend themselves. When told they have enough evidence to go to the police and stop the oil rig from beginning operation legally, Forrest blows off this option and simply blows the rig up. Which, when you think about it, would ''also'' have some pretty devastating effects on the environment Forrest was sworn to protect.



* DesignatedHero: '''Forrest''' So very much so. Just look at UnintentionallyUnsympathetic and BlackHoleSue for examples.

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* BoringInvincibleHero: In true Seagal fashion, not a single character ever lays a finger on him at any time in the film. Which makes all the more sense when you remember that Seagal both directed and ''produced'' the movie.
* DesignatedHero: '''Forrest''' So very much so. Just look at UnintentionallyUnsympathetic All throughout the film he comes off as a complete psychopath. What Jennings is trying to do is wrong, but Forrest commits eco-terrorism on a grand scale, murdering several people in the facility, including people who are unarmed and BlackHoleSue for examples.unable to defend themselves. When told they have enough evidence to go to the police and stop the oil rig from beginning operation legally, Forrest blows off this option and simply blows the rig up. Which, when you think about it, would ''also'' have some pretty devastating effects on the environment Forrest was sworn to protect.


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** Forrest's [[SarcasmMode dramatic introduction]] deserves special mention. Just about everything in the scene oozes of Narm. From the slow pan up while he steps off his helicopter complete with cheesy music swelling in the background. The offscreen voice triumphantly proclaiming: "[[CharacterShilling Forrest is here! That fire is as good as gone!]]" doesn't help.


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** Joan Chen dramatically telling TheDragon, "I will watch you die" in the most [[DullSurprise emotionless voice imaginable]].
15th Dec '17 2:49:51 PM Frankencastle
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* DesignatedHero: '''Forrest''' So very much so. Just look at UnintentionallyUnsympathetic and BlackHoleSue for examples.
31st Mar '17 11:40:36 AM Peridonyx
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* MoralEventHorizon: Macgruder after Hugh's torture and MORESO after the Inuit village raid.

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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Macgruder after Hugh's torture and MORESO after the Inuit village raid.raid.
** Arguably Forrest himself when killing many {{Designated Villain}}s (e.g., Liles) who just happen to work for the BigBad's company.


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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Liles. At worst, she (1) works as the BigBad's secretary and (2) has a bit of an ego. And yet the movie's logic = her deserving probably the most-CruelAndUnusualDeath here.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Forrest can be quite hard to root for. Not only does he teeter on the MoralEventHorizon (see above), but he also invokes ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption before even attempting to use his quite-damning evidence to take down the BigBad's company the lawful way.
2nd Nov '16 3:57:02 AM Morgenthaler
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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: A CreatorKiller variant. Creator/StevenSeagal was the director of the movie and the producer, and this was his first role that he was the unequivocal boss in order to share with the world his ideas of what makes a good film. Judging by the way the movie absolutely bombed, he's got no one to blame but himself and whatever [[YesMan Yes Men]] buffoons signed off on it.
23rd Oct '16 4:50:31 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* AwesomeMusic: If there's one thing Seagal did right during production, it was hiring Creator/BasilPoledouris to score the movie (and the Seagal/Nasso Productions logo at the end). [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0heez-7wlE Here's a suite.]]

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* AwesomeMusic: If there's one thing Seagal Creator/StevenSeagal did right during production, it was hiring Creator/BasilPoledouris to score the movie (and the Seagal/Nasso Productions logo at the end). [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0heez-7wlE Here's a suite.]]



* HoistByHisOwnPetard: A CreatorKiller variant. Seagal was the director of the movie and the producer, and this was his first role that he was the unequivocal boss in order to share with the world his ideas of what makes a good film. Judging by the way the movie absolutely bombed, he's got no one to blame but himself and whatever [[YesMan Yes Men]] buffoons signed off on it.
* InferredHolocaust: As Film Brain pointed out, Forrest blowing up an oil rig will cause more environmental damage than letting it run normally. Also doubling as MoralDissonance.

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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: A CreatorKiller variant. Seagal Creator/StevenSeagal was the director of the movie and the producer, and this was his first role that he was the unequivocal boss in order to share with the world his ideas of what makes a good film. Judging by the way the movie absolutely bombed, he's got no one to blame but himself and whatever [[YesMan Yes Men]] buffoons signed off on it.
* InferredHolocaust: As [[WebVideo/BadMovieBeatdown Film Brain Brain]] pointed out, Forrest blowing up an oil rig will cause more environmental damage than letting it run normally. Also doubling as MoralDissonance.



* {{Narm}}: "THERE IS NO I IN TEAM! [[CaptainObvious THERE IS T-E-A-M!!]]"
** The frequent offscreen voices shouting their support for Forrest and/or dislike for the villains, which were obviously added in post-production because Seagal needed his ego stroked even more.
*** In particular, R. Lee Ermey's mixed metaphor-laden praise of Forrest. Everything out of his mouth in this scene just comes across as CharacterShilling, and none of it makes the slightest bit of sense - particularly the pesos comment.

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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}}:
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"THERE IS NO I IN TEAM! [[CaptainObvious THERE IS T-E-A-M!!]]"
** The frequent offscreen voices shouting their support for Forrest and/or dislike for the villains, which were obviously added in post-production because Seagal Creator/StevenSeagal needed his ego stroked even more.
*** In particular, R. Lee Ermey's Creator/RLeeErmey's mixed metaphor-laden praise of Forrest. Everything out of his mouth in this scene just comes across as CharacterShilling, and none of it makes the slightest bit of sense - particularly the pesos comment.



** Meanwhile, they brought in John C. [=McGinley=] pre-''Scrubs'' to play...a psychotic torture expert? Although this last one is probably the most YMMV of the whole lot; to some, he's the best thing in this movie and genuinely creepy.

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** Meanwhile, they brought in John C. [=McGinley=] pre-''Scrubs'' Creator/JohnCMcGinley pre-''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' to play...a psychotic torture expert? Although this last one is probably the most YMMV of the whole lot; to some, he's the best thing in this movie and genuinely creepy.
20th Feb '16 11:02:16 AM Pricefield
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*** In particular, R. Lee Ermey's mixed metaphor-laden praise of Forrest. Everything out of his mouth in this scene just comes across as CharacterShilling, and none of it makes the slightest bit of sense - particularly the pesos comment.
** Just about all of Seagal's "acting" qualifies, but the scene where he schools a bigoted bar patron has to take the cake. After beating the bigot to the point of bleeding, Forrest somehow makes the man realize the error of his ways in a drawn out attempt at drama while cheesy music swells in the background. This is all supposed to be taken completely seriously, mind you.
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