History YMMV / NineteenKidsAndCounting

* EightDeadlyWords: Post-rebranding, the show has become just uninteresting and repetitive to some. There’s clearly a lot of dysfunction in the family, which would be interesting to focus on but it’s glossed over for a sanitized product and a relentless end of babies. As the kids have gotten older and gotten deeper into the world of fundamentalism, it’s hard to find anyone to like. Joy and Jinger, two of the spunkier daughters when they were younger, now are like their mom, even though she wears pants. Not helping matters is that Jill, who’s actually become a lot more liberal since then and is fairly estranged from her parents, hasn’t been on the show since 2017. A lot of people think that that storyline would actually be a nice change of pace for the now very boring show while also having a sympathetic character in her.

** Josie would be one if she weren't already her mother's favorite

** Jinger, to the point where fans created a website called "Free Jinger". After she married Jeremy Vuolo, she escaped Jim Bob's cult, most notably when she posted pictures of her wearing pants (it's a cardinal sin in the Duggar household for females to wear pants)!

* OvershadowedByControversy: Josh Duggar gained nationwide notoriety when he was revealed to have molested several girls, including his own sisters and a family friend, as a teenager, and for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating on his wife Anna through the Ashley Madison website]]. This resulted in TLC cancelling ''19 Kids and Counting'' and making sure he would never appear in its spin-off ''Counting On''. British newspaper Daily Mail even refers to Josh as a ''sex pest''.

** Josh. Some saw him as arrogant and possibly even more HolierThanThou than his parents. The revelation that he molested several girls (including his own sisters) and [[YourCheatingHeart cheated on his wife Anna on the Ashley Madison website]] added more fuel to the hate against him.

* LawfulEvil: The family in general. They have rules for ''everything'', and don't like it when one of them breaks them, or strays from their lifestyle. They even have a game called "The Obedience Game" where they teach the kids to obey anytime they're asked to do a task.

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: As Jill and Derrick have become more estranged from the family over the years, some have grown to believe that while he may actually believe what he said on Twitter (as described below), he said something inflammatory about fellow TLC personalities on purpose so they’d get fired from the show.

* {{Adorkable}}: John-David's wife Abbie is adorable, and like her husband, a dork.

** Given Josh's history with sex addiction, and Anna having to be "joyfully available" (basically this concept is a MaritalRapeLicense)it makes one shudder to think what goes on in their home. Especially since he has three young daughters. Yikes.

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Jill and Derick (of all people) have become more popular since leaving the show with Derick becoming the OnlySaneMan. He's helping Jill cope with her childhood trauma, and is actively helping her become more secular. He's even teasing of writing a tell-all in the near future. They even enroll their son Israel in a public school, which many viewers applaud as a first step in providing their children quality education.

** Josh. Some saw him as arrogant and possibly even more HolierThanThou than his parents.
** Jill and Derick are considered the biggest ones of all due to their hateful beliefs, so much so that they were fired from the show. Derick was an OnlySaneMan when he was first introduced until he [[FaceHeelTurn showed his true colors on twitter]]. Ironically, they also appear to be the most distant from the rest of the family, to the point that in early 2020 they announced they were enrolling their child in a ''public'' school while in September 2020, Jill happily declared she had an alcoholic drink.

** Jill and Derick are considered the biggest ones of all due to their hateful beliefs, so much so that they were fired from the show. Derick was an OnlySaneMan when he was first introduced until he [[FaceHeelTurn showed his true colors on twitter]]. Ironically, they also appear to be the most distant from the rest of the family, to the point that in early 2020 they announced they were enrolling their child in a ''public'' school.

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Jill and Derick (of all people) have become more popular since leaving the show with Derick becoming the OnlySaneMan. He's helping Jill cope with her childhood trauma, and is actively helping her become more secular. He's even teasing of writing a tell-all in the near future.

** In one episode Jason fell 12 feet down to an orchestra pit (you could hear the ''smack'' when he hit the ground) and let out a blood curdling shriek. Jill kept on practicing the harp like nothing was happening.

%%Please do not add anything about the Josh Duggar molestation allegations here as that was not addressed in the show and is Flame Bait

* Jana and Grandma Duggar are very popular, as well.

* Jill, for being excommunicated from the family. She's not allowed on the family property without Jim Bob's permission, and doesn't seem to be able to hang out with her siblings without a chaperone.

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: As Jill and Derrick have become more estranged from the family over the years, some have grown to believe that while he may actually believe what he said on Twitter (as described below), he said something inflammatory on purpose so they’d get fired from the show.

* Jill, for being excommunicated from the family. She's not allowed on the family property without Jim Bob's permission, and doesn't seem to be able to hang out with her siblings without a chaperone. T

* OvershadowedBy* Josh Duggar gained nationwide notoriety when he was revealed to have molested several girls, including his own sisters and a family friend, as a teenager, and for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating on his wife Anna through the Ashley Madison website]]. This resulted in TLC cancelling ''19 Kids and Counting'' and making sure he would never appear in its spin-off ''Counting On''. British newspaper Daily Mail even refers to Josh as a ''sex pest''.

** Jill, for being excommunicated from the family. She's not allowed on the family property without Jim Bob's permission, and doesn't seem to be able to hang out with her siblings without a chaperone. T

** The whole molestation controversy in itself. Especially considering that Josh was around 14, and his youngest victim was only ''5'' years old.
* OvershadowedByControversy:
** Josh Duggar gained nationwide notoriety when he was revealed to have molested several girls, including his own sisters and a family friend, as a teenager, and for [[YourCheatingHeart cheating on his wife Anna through the Ashley Madison website]]. This resulted in TLC cancelling ''19 Kids and Counting'' and making sure he would never appear in its spin-off ''Counting On''. British newspaper Daily Mail even refers to Josh as a ''sex pest''.

%%Please do not add anything about the Josh Duggar molestation allegations here as that was not addressed in the show and is Flame Bait.
** Not to mention ''all'' the girls that Josh molested.

** The whole molestation controversy in itself. Especially considering that Josh was around 14, and his youngest victim was only ''5'' years old. It makes it even worse that Jim Bob and Michelle didn't do ''anything'' about it.

* NightmareFeul: The amount of abuse that happens in the home that's public knowledge, is enough to make anyone's hair curl. What makes it worse, is that we have no idea what truly happens when the cameras aren't rolling.

** Jinger, Jana, Grandma Duggar as well.

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Jill and Derick (of all people) have become more popular since leaving the show with Derick becoming the OnlySaneMan due to him not hesitating to unmask what really happens behind the scenes, and teasing of a tell-all in the near future.