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** However, throughout the years, the hate towards [[BastardBoyfriend Takumi]] has started to flock up with both Hachi/Nobu and Hachi/Nana shippers beating on him as a horrible asshole who should just leave Hachi alone so she can be with someone who'll treat her well. Although unlike most examples, the hate towards Takumi is definitely not as unwarranted considering [[JerkAss he really isn't a pleasant person]] and did make things more complicated [[note]]Though Hachi herself didn't help matters with the SurprisePregnancy, and Nobu had a FatalFlaw for idealizing women that pushed Hachi away.[[/note]].
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** However, throughout the years, the hate towards [[BastardBoyfriend Takumi]] has started to flock up with both Hachi/Nobu and Hachi/Nana shippers beating on him as a horrible asshole who should just leave Hachi alone so she can be with someone who'll treat her well. Although unlike most examples, the hate towards Takumi is definitely not as unwarranted considering [[JerkAss he really isn't a pleasant person]] and did make things more complicated [[note]]Though Hachi herself didn't help matters with the SurprisePregnancy, and Nobu had a FatalFlaw for idealizing women that pushed Hachi away.[[/note]].complicated.
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** However, throughout the years, the hate towards [[BastardBoyfriend Takumi]] has started to flock up with both Hachi/Nobu and Hachi/Nana shippers beating on him as a horrible asshole who should just leave Hachi alone so she can be with someone who'll treat her well. Although unlike most examples, the hate towards Takumi is definitely not as unwarranted considering [[JerkAss he really isn't a pleasant person]] and did make things more complicated [[note]]Though Hachi herself didn't help matters with the SuprisePregnancy, and Nobu had a FatalFlaw for idealizing women that pushed Hachi away.[[/note]].
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** However, throughout the years, the hate towards [[BastardBoyfriend Takumi]] has started to flock up with both Hachi/Nobu and Hachi/Nana shippers beating on him as a horrible asshole who should just leave Hachi alone so she can be with someone who'll treat her well. Although unlike most examples, the hate towards Takumi is definitely not as unwarranted considering [[JerkAss he really isn't a pleasant person]] and did make things more complicated [[note]]Though Hachi herself didn't help matters with the SuprisePregnancy, SurprisePregnancy, and Nobu had a FatalFlaw for idealizing women that pushed Hachi away.[[/note]].
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** However, throughout the years, the hate towards [[BastardBoyfriend Takumi]] has started to flock up with both Hachi/Nobu and Hachi/Nana shippers beating on him as a horrible asshole who should just leave Hachi alone so she can be with someone who'll treat her well. Although unlike most examples, the hate towards Takumi is definitely not as unwarranted considering [[JerkAss he really isn't a pleasant person]] and did make things more complicated.
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** However, throughout the years, the hate towards [[BastardBoyfriend Takumi]] has started to flock up with both Hachi/Nobu and Hachi/Nana shippers beating on him as a horrible asshole who should just leave Hachi alone so she can be with someone who'll treat her well. Although unlike most examples, the hate towards Takumi is definitely not as unwarranted considering [[JerkAss he really isn't a pleasant person]] and did make things more complicated.complicated [[note]]Though Hachi herself didn't help matters with the SuprisePregnancy, and Nobu had a FatalFlaw for idealizing women that pushed Hachi away.[[/note]].
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: As the years went by, a very common sentiment has started to flock up: why would Hachi pick [[JerkAss Takumi]] over [[NiceGuy Nobu]]?
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: As the years went by, a very common sentiment has started to flock up: were fans wondering why would Hachi pick [[JerkAss Takumi]] over [[NiceGuy Nobu]]?took Takumi back.
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** However, throughout the years, the hate towards [[BastardBoyfriend Takumi]] has started to flock up with both Hachi/Nobu and Hachi/Nana shippers beating on him as a horrible asshole who should just leave Hachi alone so she can be with someone who'll treat her well. Although unlike most examples, the hate towards Takumi is definitely not as unwarranted considering [[JerkAss he really isn't a pleasant person]] and did make things more complicated.
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* {{Wangst}}: Sometimes, Hachi acknowledges that she complains a lot even when she shouldn't.shouldn't.
* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: As the years went by, a very common sentiment has started to flock up: why would Hachi pick [[JerkAss Takumi]] over [[NiceGuy Nobu]]?
* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: As the years went by, a very common sentiment has started to flock up: why would Hachi pick [[JerkAss Takumi]] over [[NiceGuy Nobu]]?
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Kuroi Namida.
** Let's say ''everything'' sung by {{Music/Anna Tsuchiya}} and {{Music/Olivia}} and leave it there.
** Also, the insanely infectious "Glamorous Sky" from the movie.
* ArcFatigue: For God's sake, you two, can't you find ''somebody'' worth a shit?!?
** Hachi got pretty close to this with Nobu. [[spoiler:Too bad the imbroglio about her pregnancy brought Takumi back into her life, some chapters after she loudly dismissed him over the phone after overhearing him complaining about how pregnant women are such a bother.]]
* DieForOurShip: While Sachiko did get in between girlfriend and boyfriend, it still sucks that she's the one who gets almost all the shit, even though it was clearly Shoji who was two-timing with her and Hachi.
** Ditto this for another couple in later chapters.
** More so Reira in later chapters, who receives a lot of hate from both Takumi/Hachi shippers AND Nana/Ren shippers. Takumi, however, is still loved by fans even when he cheats on Hachi without a second thought, while his feelings towards her settle only slightly above indifference; and of course, Ren is the one who has been shown to have previous feelings for Reira, while Reira sees him more as a confidante and friend, and was clearly upset when the press threatened to release pictures that would persuade the public they were having an affair. Perhaps a milder version of RonTheDeathEater.
** Let's say ''everything'' sung by {{Music/Anna Tsuchiya}} and {{Music/Olivia}} and leave it there.
** Also, the insanely infectious "Glamorous Sky" from the movie.
* ArcFatigue: For God's sake, you two, can't you find ''somebody'' worth a shit?!?
** Hachi got pretty close to this with Nobu. [[spoiler:Too bad the imbroglio about her pregnancy brought Takumi back into her life, some chapters after she loudly dismissed him over the phone after overhearing him complaining about how pregnant women are such a bother.]]
* DieForOurShip: While Sachiko did get in between girlfriend and boyfriend, it still sucks that she's the one who gets almost all the shit, even though it was clearly Shoji who was two-timing with her and Hachi.
** Ditto this for another couple in later chapters.
** More so Reira in later chapters, who receives a lot of hate from both Takumi/Hachi shippers AND Nana/Ren shippers. Takumi, however, is still loved by fans even when he cheats on Hachi without a second thought, while his feelings towards her settle only slightly above indifference; and of course, Ren is the one who has been shown to have previous feelings for Reira, while Reira sees him more as a confidante and friend, and was clearly upset when the press threatened to release pictures that would persuade the public they were having an affair. Perhaps a milder version of RonTheDeathEater.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Kuroi Namida.
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**Let's say ''everything'' ''Everything'' sung by {{Music/Anna Tsuchiya}} Music/AnnaTsuchiya and {{Music/Olivia}} Music/{{Olivia}}, who provided inspired songs that were used in the anime (as OP themes, ED themes, and leave it there.
** Also,insert songs) for their respective counterparts (punk-styled rock for Nana and the Black Stones, and alternative rock for Reira and Trapnest), such as Tsuchiya's "Kuroi Namida" and Olivia's "Wish".
** The insanely infectious "Glamorous Sky" (sung by Mika Nakashima) from the movie.
*ArcFatigue: For God's sake, you two, can't you find ''somebody'' worth a shit?!?
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**Hachi got pretty The main plot of the series is about the relationship about both Nanas, and how it develops over time. However, as they separate, the audience realizes that every single person and situation around them turn out to be shittier than they originally were. With [[SeriesHiatus the manga on hiatus since 2009]], the last meeting between both of them raised uncertainty about their future as friends (which would probably lead to [[spoiler:a final meeting before the "Present Time" takes place]]).
** Hachi's WillTheyOrWontThey relationship with Nobu was very close tothis with Nobu. [[spoiler:Too be extremely tiring, regardless of the advancements between those two. Too bad the imbroglio whole mess about her pregnancy [[spoiler:her pregnancy]] brought Takumi back into her life, and some chapters after she later, [[spoiler:she loudly dismissed him over the phone after overhearing him complaining about how pregnant women are such a bother.]]
bother]].
*DieForOurShip: DieForOurShip:
** While Sachiko did get in between girlfriend and boyfriend, it still sucks that she's the one who gets almost all the shit, even though it was clearly Shoji who was two-timing with her and Hachi.
**Ditto this for another couple in later chapters.
** More soReira in later chapters, who receives a lot of hate from both Takumi/Hachi shippers AND Nana/Ren shippers. Takumi, however, is still loved by fans even when he cheats is cheating on Hachi without a second thought, while his feelings towards her settle only slightly above indifference; and of course, Ren is the one who has been shown to have previous feelings for Reira, while Reira sees him more as a confidante confidant and a friend, and was clearly upset when the press threatened to release pictures that would persuade the public they were having an affair. Perhaps a milder version of RonTheDeathEater.
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** Hachi's WillTheyOrWontThey relationship with Nobu was very close to
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** While Sachiko did get in between girlfriend and boyfriend, it still sucks that she's the one who gets almost all the shit, even though it was clearly Shoji who was two-timing with her and Hachi.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Hachi is basically turning this into an Olympic sport.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Hachi
* {{Wangst}}: Sometimes, Hachi
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Too many stars o////o
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** RetroactiveRecognition: The English Nanas are [[Creator/RebeccaShoichet Sunset Shimmer]] [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic and]] [[Creator/KellySheridan Starlight Glimmer]], respectively.
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** RetroactiveRecognition: The English Nanas are [[Creator/RebeccaShoichet Sunset Shimmer]] [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic and]] [[Creator/KellySheridan Starlight Glimmer]], respectively.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: It has Josei written all over it, but runs in a Shojo magazine.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: It has Josei written all over it, but runs in a Shojo magazine.
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* {{Wangst}}: Sometimes, Hachi arknowledges that she complains a lot even when she shouldn't.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: It has Josei written all over it, but runs in a Shojo magazine.shouldn't.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: It has Josei written all over it, but runs in a Shojo magazine.
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* LesYay: There is quite a bit of this between Nana and Hachi, especially in the beginning of the series.
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* TheScrappy: Takumi Big time.
* StrangledByTheRedString: How many times had this happened to Hachi before?
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* LesYay: There is quite a bit of this between Nana and Hachi, especially in the beginning of the series.
* TheScrappy:Takumi Takumi. Big time.
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** Let's say "everything sung by {{Music/AnnaTsuchiya}} and {{Music/Olivia}}" and leave it there.
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** Let's say "everything ''everything'' sung by {{Music/AnnaTsuchiya}} {{Music/Anna Tsuchiya}} and {{Music/Olivia}}" {{Music/Olivia}} and leave it there.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Kuroi Namida.
** Let's say "everything sung by {{Music/AnnaTsuchiya}} and {{Music/Olivia}}" and leave it there.
** Also, the insanely infectious "Glamorous Sky" from the movie.
** Let's say "everything sung by {{Music/AnnaTsuchiya}} and {{Music/Olivia}}" and leave it there.
** Also, the insanely infectious "Glamorous Sky" from the movie.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Kuroi Namida.
** Let's say "everything sung by {{Music/AnnaTsuchiya}} and {{Music/Olivia}}" and leave it there.
** Also, the insanely infectious "Glamorous Sky" from the movie.
** Let's say "everything sung by {{Music/AnnaTsuchiya}} and {{Music/Olivia}}" and leave it there.
** Also, the insanely infectious "Glamorous Sky" from the movie.
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** Let's say "everything sung by AnnaTsuchiya {{Music/AnnaTsuchiya}} and Olivia" {{Music/Olivia}}" and leave it there.
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unfortunate implications need citations, fetish fuel was removed from the wiki
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** More so Reira in later chapters, who receives a lot of hate from both Takumi/Hachi shippers AND Nana/Ren shippers. Takumi, however, is still loved by fans even when he cheats on Hachi without a second thought, while his feelings towards her settle only slightly above indifference; and of course, Ren is the one who has been shown to have previous feelings for Reira, while Reira sees him more as a confidante and friend, and was clearly upset when the press threatened to release pictures that would persuade the public they were having an affair. Perhaps a milder version of RonTheDeathEater, it's nevertheless a disturbing example of [[DoubleStandard double standards]] when you remember that most of the readers are [[UnfortunateImplications themselves women]].
* FetishFuel: Punk outfits, leather clothes, piercings and even ''crossdressing''.
* FetishFuel: Punk outfits, leather clothes, piercings and even ''crossdressing''.
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** More so Reira in later chapters, who receives a lot of hate from both Takumi/Hachi shippers AND Nana/Ren shippers. Takumi, however, is still loved by fans even when he cheats on Hachi without a second thought, while his feelings towards her settle only slightly above indifference; and of course, Ren is the one who has been shown to have previous feelings for Reira, while Reira sees him more as a confidante and friend, and was clearly upset when the press threatened to release pictures that would persuade the public they were having an affair. Perhaps a milder version of RonTheDeathEater, it's nevertheless a disturbing example of [[DoubleStandard double standards]] when you remember that most of the readers are [[UnfortunateImplications themselves women]].
* FetishFuel: Punk outfits, leather clothes, piercings and even ''crossdressing''.RonTheDeathEater.
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* HoYay: [[spoiler: Ren and Shin]].
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* LesYay: The Nanas, of course.
** Nana O has this with a particular female fan.
** Nana O has this with a particular female fan.
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* TheScrappy: Takumi Big time.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: "Okaeri, Nana-chan." [[spoiler: After they went to Trapnest's show, Hachiko asked Nana if she can ask to Ren to get her an autograph of Takumi. When asked by Nana, Ren does better than this; he takes Takumi with him to a mah-jong night at the 707 apartment. When Hachiko arrives home from work, Takumi opens the door to her while saying the mentioned line. She burst into tears.]]
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* FanGirl: Misato-chan
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* ArcFatigue: For God's sakes, you two, can't you find ''somebody'' worth a shit?!?
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* ArcFatigue: For God's sakes, sake, you two, can't you find ''somebody'' worth a shit?!?shit?!?
** Hachi got pretty close to this with Nobu. [[spoiler:Too bad the imbroglio about her pregnancy brought Takumi back into her life, some chapters after she loudly dismissed him over the phone after overhearing him complaining about how pregnant women are such a bother.]]
** Hachi got pretty close to this with Nobu. [[spoiler:Too bad the imbroglio about her pregnancy brought Takumi back into her life, some chapters after she loudly dismissed him over the phone after overhearing him complaining about how pregnant women are such a bother.]]
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: "Okaeri, Nana-chan." [[spoiler: after went to the Trapnest's show, Hachiko ask to Nana if she can ask to Ren to get her an autograph of Takumi. Asked by Nana, Ren does better than this, taking Takumi with him to a mah-jong night at the 707 apartment. When Hachiko arrives from her work, Takumi opens the door to her saying the mentioned line. She burst in tears.]]
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: "Okaeri, Nana-chan." [[spoiler: after After they went to the Trapnest's show, Hachiko ask to asked Nana if she can ask to Ren to get her an autograph of Takumi. Asked When asked by Nana, Ren does better than this, taking this; he takes Takumi with him to a mah-jong night at the 707 apartment. When Hachiko arrives home from her work, Takumi opens the door to her while saying the mentioned line. She burst in into tears.]]
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** Also, the insanely infectuous "Glamorous Sky" from the movie.
** Also, the insanely infectuous "Glamorous Sky" from the movie.
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** Let's say "everything sung by AnnaTsuchiya" AnnaTsuchiya and Olivia" and leave it there.
** Also, the insanelyinfectuous infectious "Glamorous Sky" from the movie.
** Also, the insanely
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** More so Reira in later chapters, who receives a lot of hate from both Takumi/Hachi shippers AND Nana/Ren shippers. Takumi, however, is still loved by fans even when he cheats on Hachi without a second thought, while his feelings towards her settle only slightly above indifference; and of course, Ren is the one who has been shown to have previous feelings for Reira, while Reira sees him more as a confidante and friend, and was clearly upset when the press threatened to release pictures that would pursuade the public they were having an affair. Perhaps a milder version of RonTheDeathEater, it's nevertheless a disturbing example of [[DoubleStandard double standards]] when you remember that most of the readers are [[UnfortunateImplications themselves women]].
* FetishFuel: punk outfits, leather clothes, piercings and even ''crossdressing''.
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** More so Reira in later chapters, who receives a lot of hate from both Takumi/Hachi shippers AND Nana/Ren shippers. Takumi, however, is still loved by fans even when he cheats on Hachi without a second thought, while his feelings towards her settle only slightly above indifference; and of course, Ren is the one who has been shown to have previous feelings for Reira, while Reira sees him more as a confidante and friend, and was clearly upset when the press threatened to release pictures that would pursuade persuade the public they were having an affair. Perhaps a milder version of RonTheDeathEater, it's nevertheless a disturbing example of [[DoubleStandard double standards]] when you remember that most of the readers are [[UnfortunateImplications themselves women]].
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** Nana O has this with a particular female fan.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: It has Josei written all over it, but runs in a Shojo magazine.
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game, not a trope.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: "Okaeri, Nana-chan." [[spoiler: after went to the Trapnest's show, Hachiko ask to Nana if she can ask to Ren to get her an autograph of Takumi. Asked by Nana, Ren does better than this, taking Takumi with him to a mah-jong night at the 707 apartment. When Hachiko arrives from her work, Takumi opens the door to her saying the mentioned line. She burst in tears. It's BetterThanItSounds]]. ]]
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** More so Reira in later chapters, who receives a lot of hate from both Takumi/Hachi shippers AND Nana/Ren shippers. Takumi, however, is still loved by fans even when he cheats on Hachi without a second thought, while his feelings towards her settle only slightly above indifference; and of course, Ren is the one who has been shown to have previous feelings for Reira, while Reira sees him more as a confidante and friend, and was clearly upset when the press threatened to release pictures that would pursuade the public they were having an affair. Perhaps a milder version of RonTheDeathEater, it's nevertheless a disturbing example of [[DoubleStandard double standards]] when you remember that most of the readers are themselves women.
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** More so Reira in later chapters, who receives a lot of hate from both Takumi/Hachi shippers AND Nana/Ren shippers. Takumi, however, is still loved by fans even when he cheats on Hachi without a second thought, while his feelings towards her settle only slightly above indifference; and of course, Ren is the one who has been shown to have previous feelings for Reira, while Reira sees him more as a confidante and friend, and was clearly upset when the press threatened to release pictures that would pursuade the public they were having an affair. Perhaps a milder version of RonTheDeathEater, it's nevertheless a disturbing example of [[DoubleStandard double standards]] when you remember that most of the readers are [[UnfortunateImplications themselves women.women]].
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