History YMMV / NCIS

3rd Nov '17 10:59:30 PM DrOO7
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Yes, that's [[Series/ThisIsUs Randall Pearson]] kidnapping Emily Fornell in the Season 11 episode "Devil's Triad".



* ValuesDissonance: As cited in the "harsher" post, the team's attitude in "Dead Man Talking" (an episode released in 2004) regarding the woman who turns out to be a pre-op transsexual, as well as the killer they're looking for comes off pretty transphobic nowadays--continually referring to her as a "guy", or with male pronouns, even as a "he-she" (which some consider a slur these days). In particular, Gibbs' snark about "adding that misdemeanor to the murder charge", regarding the woman having used the female restroom, is especially cringeworthy given the ongoing bathroom controversies. And Kate seems far more aghast at "Tony being on a date with a guy!", rather than Tony being on a date with, you know, a '''''murderer''''' who killed one of their fellow agents and was likely going to kill Tony as well. Not to mention that the murderer likely didn't transition because of identifying as a woman, but as of the ultimate disguise to get away with their crimes. Lending to the unfortunate implication that transgender people are somehow "bad" or "evil". Though at the s
* TheWoobie: Various characters have been this at times. Tony sometimes skirts into JerkassWoobie territory. Though given it was a transition to hide from a murder charge, whether it counts as transphobic can become it's own debate.

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* ValuesDissonance: As cited in the "harsher" post, the team's attitude in "Dead Man Talking" (an episode released in 2004) regarding the woman who turns out to be a pre-op transsexual, as well as the killer they're looking for comes off pretty transphobic nowadays--continually referring to her as a "guy", or with male pronouns, even as a "he-she" (which some consider a slur these days). In particular, Gibbs' snark about "adding that misdemeanor to the murder charge", regarding the woman having used the female restroom, is especially cringeworthy given the ongoing bathroom controversies. And Kate seems far more aghast at "Tony being on a date with a guy!", rather than Tony being on a date with, you know, a '''''murderer''''' who killed one of their fellow agents and was likely going to kill Tony as well. Not to mention that the murderer likely didn't transition because of identifying as a woman, but as of the ultimate disguise to get away with their crimes. Lending to the unfortunate implication that transgender people are somehow "bad" or "evil". Though at the s\n* TheWoobie: Various characters have been this at times. Tony sometimes skirts into JerkassWoobie territory. Though given it was a transition to hide from a murder charge, whether it counts as transphobic can become it's own debate.
* TheWoobie: Various characters have been this at times. Tony sometimes skirts into JerkassWoobie territory.
2nd Nov '17 4:56:34 PM jarxon6
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* ValuesDissonance: As cited in the "harsher" post, the team's attitude in "Dead Man Talking" (an episode released in 2004) regarding the woman who turns out to be a pre-op transsexual, as well as the killer they're looking for comes off pretty transphobic nowadays--continually referring to her as a "guy", or with male pronouns, even as a "he-she" (which some consider a slur these days). In particular, Gibbs' snark about "adding that misdemeanor to the murder charge", regarding the woman having used the female restroom, is especially cringeworthy given the ongoing bathroom controversies. And Kate seems far more aghast at "Tony being on a date with a guy!", rather than Tony being on a date with, you know, a '''''murderer''''' who killed one of their fellow agents and was likely going to kill Tony as well. Not to mention that the murderer likely didn't transition because of identifying as a woman, but as of the ultimate disguise to get away with their crimes. Lending to the unfortunate implication that transgender people are somehow "bad" or "evil".
* TheWoobie: Various characters have been this at times. Tony sometimes skirts into JerkassWoobie territory.

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* ValuesDissonance: As cited in the "harsher" post, the team's attitude in "Dead Man Talking" (an episode released in 2004) regarding the woman who turns out to be a pre-op transsexual, as well as the killer they're looking for comes off pretty transphobic nowadays--continually referring to her as a "guy", or with male pronouns, even as a "he-she" (which some consider a slur these days). In particular, Gibbs' snark about "adding that misdemeanor to the murder charge", regarding the woman having used the female restroom, is especially cringeworthy given the ongoing bathroom controversies. And Kate seems far more aghast at "Tony being on a date with a guy!", rather than Tony being on a date with, you know, a '''''murderer''''' who killed one of their fellow agents and was likely going to kill Tony as well. Not to mention that the murderer likely didn't transition because of identifying as a woman, but as of the ultimate disguise to get away with their crimes. Lending to the unfortunate implication that transgender people are somehow "bad" or "evil".
"evil". Though at the s
* TheWoobie: Various characters have been this at times. Tony sometimes skirts into JerkassWoobie territory.
territory. Though given it was a transition to hide from a murder charge, whether it counts as transphobic can become it's own debate.
29th Oct '17 10:51:51 AM JJHIL325
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** In "Dead Air", a [[RenegadeSplinterFaction few extreme members]] of "Military At Home" (a social group based in Alexandria, Virgina, who believe that America should focus on their own problems instead of being the world's police) target a high-school softball game which has the daughters of high-profile government officials as players (Thankfully, the team managed to get everybody out of the baseball field before the bomb went off). Seven years after the episode first aired, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting a Left-Wing domestic terrorist shot up the practice game of the Congressional Baseball Game for Charity]], which took place in Alexandria.

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** In "Dead Air", a [[RenegadeSplinterFaction few extreme members]] of "Military At Home" (a social group based in Alexandria, Virgina, who believe that America should focus on their own problems instead of being the world's police) target a high-school softball game which has the daughters of high-profile government officials as players (Thankfully, the team managed to get everybody out of the baseball field before the bomb went off). Seven years after the episode first aired, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting a Left-Wing domestic terrorist shot up the practice game of the Congressional Baseball Game for Charity]], which took place in Alexandria.Alexandria, and unlike the episode, people did get hurt in the attack.
28th Oct '17 10:04:17 PM BatmanKalEl
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* BaseBreaker: One don't hear much about it but there's one camp that think that Ziva and Tony's relationship is LikeBrotherAndSister (making Gibbs' team like siblings with him as [[TeamDad Daddy]] [[PapaWolf Gibbs]]) and then there's the ones that think of it as BelligerentSexualTension. And then there's [[http://saisoto.deviantart.com/art/NCIS-BedTime-336416553 they]] who can't make up their minds. Even the series switched back and forth a lot.

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* BaseBreaker: BrokenBase: One don't hear much about it but there's one camp that think that Ziva and Tony's relationship is LikeBrotherAndSister (making Gibbs' team like siblings with him as [[TeamDad Daddy]] [[PapaWolf Gibbs]]) and then there's the ones that think of it as BelligerentSexualTension. And then there's [[http://saisoto.deviantart.com/art/NCIS-BedTime-336416553 they]] who can't make up their minds. Even the series switched back and forth a lot.
3rd Oct '17 5:17:36 AM hitmonkey
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* HoYay:
** In earlier seasons Gibbs and Tony have their moments.
** [=McGee=] and Tony get in many awkward situations.
** Tony and crook-of-the-week Jeffrey White in the episode "Chained." (Technically doesn't qualify as FoeYay, since Jeffrey didn't know they were enemies until the last five minutes.)
** In Season 12, [=McGee=] and [=DiNozzo=]'s reaction to Jake and Gibbs' friendship can only be described as jealousy--the latter relentlessly pumps Ellie for information and all but flips out when she mentions their biweekly racketball game.

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* HoYay:
** In earlier seasons Gibbs and Tony have their moments.
** [=McGee=] and Tony get in many awkward situations.
** Tony and crook-of-the-week Jeffrey White in the episode "Chained." (Technically doesn't qualify as FoeYay, since Jeffrey didn't know they were enemies until the last five minutes.)
** In Season 12, [=McGee=] and [=DiNozzo=]'s reaction to Jake and Gibbs' friendship can only be described as jealousy--the latter relentlessly pumps Ellie for information and all but flips out when she mentions their biweekly racketball game.
HoYay: Has it's own page {{HoYay/NCIS}}
3rd Oct '17 4:55:42 AM hitmonkey
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** In "Good Cop, Bad Cop", Tony is being annoying (as usual) to [=McGee=], including a reference to "The Tell-Tale Heart" by Edgar Allen Poe and asking him if he has a body buried under his floorboards. (ItMakesSenseInContext...sorta.) Seven years later, it's revealed that Tony's apartment has a body buried under the floorboards, and he doesn't even know it. And to make it better, this revelation comes after [=McGee=] leases the apartment for himself and Delilah, making Tony's joke prescient by seven years.

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** In "Good Cop, Bad Cop", Tony is being annoying (as usual) to [=McGee=], including a reference to "The Tell-Tale Heart" by Edgar Allen Poe and asking him if he has a body buried under his floorboards. (ItMakesSenseInContext...sorta.) Seven years later, it's revealed that Tony's apartment has a body buried under the floorboards, and he doesn't even know it. And to make it better, this revelation comes after [=McGee=] leases the apartment for himself and Delilah, making Tony's joke prescient by seven years.
25th Sep '17 9:38:49 PM Sane_Spinster
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*** "A Many Splendored Thing" also cast her in a more positive light for some fans, because of her [[spoiler:attempt at going after the season's BigBad by herself, and succeeding at [[OutGambitted out-gambitting]] his attempt at PlayingBothSides.]]
21st Sep '17 7:55:26 AM JJHIL325
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** In "Dead Air", a [[RenegadeSplinterFaction few extreme members]] of "Military At Home" (a social group based in Alexandria, Virgina, who believe that America should focus on their own problems instead of being the world's police) targets a high-school softball game which has the daughters of high-profile government officials as players (Thankfully, the team managed to get everybody out of the baseball field before the bomb went off). Seven years after the episode first aired, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting a Left-Wing terrorist shot up the practice game of the Congressional Baseball Game for Charity]], which took place in Alexandria.

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** In "Dead Air", a [[RenegadeSplinterFaction few extreme members]] of "Military At Home" (a social group based in Alexandria, Virgina, who believe that America should focus on their own problems instead of being the world's police) targets target a high-school softball game which has the daughters of high-profile government officials as players (Thankfully, the team managed to get everybody out of the baseball field before the bomb went off). Seven years after the episode first aired, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting a Left-Wing domestic terrorist shot up the practice game of the Congressional Baseball Game for Charity]], which took place in Alexandria.
21st Sep '17 7:54:28 AM JJHIL325
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** In "Dead Air", a RenegadeSplinterFaction of "Military At Home" (a social group based in Alexandria, Virgina, who believe that America should focus on their own problems instead of being the world's police) targets a high-school softball game which has the daughters of high-profile government officials as players ([[spoiler:Thankfully, the team managed to clear everybody out of the baseball field before the bomb went off]]). Seven years after the episode first aired, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting a Left-Wing terrorist shot up the practice game of the Congressional Baseball Game for Charity]], which took place in Alexandria.

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** In "Dead Air", a RenegadeSplinterFaction [[RenegadeSplinterFaction few extreme members]] of "Military At Home" (a social group based in Alexandria, Virgina, who believe that America should focus on their own problems instead of being the world's police) targets a high-school softball game which has the daughters of high-profile government officials as players ([[spoiler:Thankfully, (Thankfully, the team managed to clear get everybody out of the baseball field before the bomb went off]]).off). Seven years after the episode first aired, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Congressional_baseball_shooting a Left-Wing terrorist shot up the practice game of the Congressional Baseball Game for Charity]], which took place in Alexandria.
21st Sep '17 7:51:21 AM JJHIL325
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** Being a member of the [[CIAEvilFBIGood CIA]] is more-or-less shorthand for rouge/double/dirty agents in this show.

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** Being a member of the [[CIAEvilFBIGood CIA]] is more-or-less shorthand for rouge/double/dirty agents corrupt agent in this show.
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