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** There is evidence supporting this theory. Aside from the SeriesContinuityError mentioned in ''Literature/GetToWorkHercules'', there is also a point in ''Phone Home, Persephone!'', where Hades tells Persephone that he let Hermes in on the secret way to the Underworld because it's Hermes' job to bring the souls of the recently deceased there. ''Keep a Lid on It, Pandora!'' reveals that Cerberus showed Hades the secret way, and Hermes followed them, unnoticed, only to almost reveal it later until Hades told him to keep quiet, and Hermes offered to make an arrangement later. Hermes did find out about the path by following Hades, so strictly speaking, Hades isn't lying, but he isn't revealing or implying what actually happened.
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** There is evidence supporting this theory. Aside from the SeriesContinuityError mentioned in ''Literature/GetToWorkHercules'', ''Literature/GetToWorkHercules'' and ''Literature/GetLostOdysseus'', there is also a point in ''Phone Home, Persephone!'', where Hades tells Persephone that he let Hermes in on the secret way to the Underworld because it's Hermes' job to bring the souls of the recently deceased there. ''Keep a Lid on It, Pandora!'' reveals that Cerberus showed Hades the secret way, and Hermes followed them, unnoticed, only to almost reveal it later until Hades told him to keep quiet, and Hermes offered to make an arrangement later. Hermes did find out about the path by following Hades, so strictly speaking, Hades isn't lying, but he isn't revealing or implying what actually happened.
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** There is evidence supporting this theory. Aside from the SeriesContinuityError mentioned in ''Literature/GetToWorkHercules'', there is also a point in ''Phone Home, Persephone!'', where Hades tells Persephone that he let Hermes in on the secret way to the Underworld because it's Hermes' job to bring the souls of the recently deceased there. ''Keep a Lid on It, Pandora!'' reveals that Cerberus showed Hades the secret way, and Hermes followed them, unnoticed, only to almost reveal it later until Hades told him to keep quiet and make an arrangement. Hermes did find out about the path by following Hades, so strictly speaking, Hades isn't lying, but he isn't revealing or implying what actually happened.
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** There is evidence supporting this theory. Aside from the SeriesContinuityError mentioned in ''Literature/GetToWorkHercules'', there is also a point in ''Phone Home, Persephone!'', where Hades tells Persephone that he let Hermes in on the secret way to the Underworld because it's Hermes' job to bring the souls of the recently deceased there. ''Keep a Lid on It, Pandora!'' reveals that Cerberus showed Hades the secret way, and Hermes followed them, unnoticed, only to almost reveal it later until Hades told him to keep quiet quiet, and Hermes offered to make an arrangement.arrangement later. Hermes did find out about the path by following Hades, so strictly speaking, Hades isn't lying, but he isn't revealing or implying what actually happened.
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** There is evidence supporting this theory. Aside from the SeriesContinuityError mentioned in ''Literature/GetToWorkHercules'', there is also a point in ''Phone Home, Persephone!'', where Hades tells Persephone that he let Hermes in on the secret way to the Underworld because it's Hermes' job to bring the souls of the recently deceased there. ''Keep a Lid on It, Pandora!'' reveals that Cerberus showed Hades the secret way, and Hermes followed them, unnoticed, only to almost reveal it later until Hades told him to keep quiet and make an arrangement. Hermes did find out about the path by following Hades, so strictly speaking, Hades isn't lying, but he isn't revealing or implying what actually happened.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Consider how Hades plays up his involvement with the stories he relates, the argument can be made that Hades is just as prone to self-embellishment as he claims Zeus is.
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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process
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* UncannyValley: The caricatured covers that Denis Zilber illustrated for the Stone Arch versions of the first eight books might have this, especially to readers who prefer the realistically-proportioned and painterly covers David [=LaFleur=] produced for the Hyperion and Scholastic editions.[[note]][=LaFleur=] also illustrated ''Myth-O-Mania'' maps and trading cards, and excerpts of ''The Big Fat Book of Greek Myths'' that Hades shared in the prologues and epilogues. The Stone Arch editions simplified the designs of the maps, and removed the trading cards and the ''Big Fat Book'''s illustrations.[[/note]] (This wiki uses a [=LaFleur=] cover for the general ''Myth-O-Mania'' page, but Zilber covers for the first VIII books' individual pages.) Cover duties switched to Kevin Keele by the time Stone Arch published ''Hit the Road, Helen!''
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* MagnificentBastard: Odysseus seems like one of, if not the, cleverest mortals Hades knows (but also one of the most boastful and dishonest).
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: "Don't trust everything you read" sounds like an important lesson, considering how many information resources in the real world let their writers' biases affect their accuracy.
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* UncannyValley: The caricatured covers that Denis Zilber illustrated for the Stone Arch versions of the first eight books might have this, especially to readers who prefer the realistically-proportioned and painterly covers David [=LaFleur=] produced for the Hyperion and Scholastic editions.[[note]][=LaFleur=] also illustrated ''Myth-O-Mania'' maps and trading cards, and excerpts of ''The Big Fat Book of Greek Myths'' that Hades shared in the prologues and epilogues. The Stone Arch editions simplified the designs of the maps, and removed the trading cards and the ''Big Fat Book'''s illustrations.[[/note]] (This wiki uses a [=LaFleur=] cover for the general ''Myth-O-Mania'' page, but Zilber covers for each individual book's page.) Cover duties switched to Kevin Keele by the time Stone Arch published ''Hit the Road, Helen!''
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* UncannyValley: The caricatured covers that Denis Zilber illustrated for the Stone Arch versions of the first eight books might have this, especially to readers who prefer the realistically-proportioned and painterly covers David [=LaFleur=] produced for the Hyperion and Scholastic editions.[[note]][=LaFleur=] also illustrated ''Myth-O-Mania'' maps and trading cards, and excerpts of ''The Big Fat Book of Greek Myths'' that Hades shared in the prologues and epilogues. The Stone Arch editions simplified the designs of the maps, and removed the trading cards and the ''Big Fat Book'''s illustrations.[[/note]] (This wiki uses a [=LaFleur=] cover for the general ''Myth-O-Mania'' page, but Zilber covers for the first VIII books' individual pages.) Cover duties switched to Kevin Keele by the time Stone Arch published ''Hit the Road, Helen!''
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* UncannyValley: The caricatured covers that Denis Zilber illustrated for the Stone Arch versions of the first eight books might have this, especially to readers who prefer the realistically-proportioned and painterly covers David [=LaFleur=] produced for the Hyperion and Scholastic editions.[[note]][=LaFleur=] also illustrated ''Myth-O-Mania'' maps and trading cards, and excerpts of ''The Big Fat Book of Greek Myths'' that Hades shared in the prologues and epilogues.[[/note]] (This wiki uses a [=LaFleur=] cover for the general ''Myth-O-Mania'' page, but Zilber covers for each individual book's page.) Cover duties switched to Kevin Keele by the time Stone Arch published ''Hit the Road, Helen!''
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* UncannyValley: The caricatured covers that Denis Zilber illustrated for the Stone Arch versions of the first eight books might have this, especially to readers who prefer the realistically-proportioned and painterly covers David [=LaFleur=] produced for the Hyperion and Scholastic editions.[[note]][=LaFleur=] also illustrated ''Myth-O-Mania'' maps and trading cards, and excerpts of ''The Big Fat Book of Greek Myths'' that Hades shared in the prologues and epilogues. The Stone Arch editions simplified the designs of the maps, and removed the trading cards and the ''Big Fat Book'''s illustrations.[[/note]] (This wiki uses a [=LaFleur=] cover for the general ''Myth-O-Mania'' page, but Zilber covers for each individual book's page.) Cover duties switched to Kevin Keele by the time Stone Arch published ''Hit the Road, Helen!''
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I actually prefer some of Zilber's covers
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* UncannyValley: The caricatured covers that Denis Zilber illustrated for the Stone Arch versions of the first eight books might have this, especially to readers introduced to who prefer the series via either the Hyperion or the Scholastic editions, which used more realistically-proportioned and painterly covers from David [=LaFleur=].[=LaFleur=] produced for the Hyperion and Scholastic editions.[[note]][=LaFleur=] also illustrated ''Myth-O-Mania'' maps and trading cards, and excerpts of ''The Big Fat Book of Greek Myths'' that Hades shared in the prologues and epilogues.[[/note]] (This wiki uses a [=LaFleur=] cover for the general ''Myth-O-Mania'' page, but Zilber covers for each individual book's page, as [=LaFleur=] never designed covers for the last two books.page.) Cover duties switched to Kevin Keele by the time Stone Arch published ''Hit the Road, Helen!''
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* UncannyValley: The caricatured covers that Denis Zilber illustrated for the Stone Arch versions of the first eight books might have this, to readers introduced to the series via either the Hyperion or the Scholastic editions, which used more realistically-proportioned and painterly covers from David [=LaFleur=] (such as the one in the page image).[[note]][=LaFleur=] also illustrated ''Myth-O-Mania'' maps and trading cards, and excerpts of ''The Big Fat Book of Greek Myths'' that Hades shared in the prologues and epilogues.[[/note]] Cover duties switched to Kevin Keele by the time Stone Arch published ''Hit the Road, Helen!''
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* UncannyValley: The caricatured covers that Denis Zilber illustrated for the Stone Arch versions of the first eight books might have this, to readers introduced to the series via either the Hyperion or the Scholastic editions, which used more realistically-proportioned and painterly covers from David [=LaFleur=] (such as the one in the page image).[=LaFleur=].[[note]][=LaFleur=] also illustrated ''Myth-O-Mania'' maps and trading cards, and excerpts of ''The Big Fat Book of Greek Myths'' that Hades shared in the prologues and epilogues.[[/note]] (This wiki uses a [=LaFleur=] cover for the general ''Myth-O-Mania'' page, but Zilber covers for each individual book's page, as [=LaFleur=] never designed covers for the last two books.) Cover duties switched to Kevin Keele by the time Stone Arch published ''Hit the Road, Helen!''
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* UncannyValley: The caricatured covers that Denis Zilber illustrated for the Stone Arch versions of the first eight books might have this, to readers introduced to the series via either the Hyperion or the Scholastic editions, which used more realistically-proportioned and painterly covers from David [=LaFleur=][[note]]Who [=LaFleur=] (such as the one in the page image).[[note]][=LaFleur=] also illustrated ''Myth-O-Mania'' maps and trading cards, and excerpts of ''The Big Fat Book of Greek Myths'' that Hades shared in the prologues and epilogues[[/note]]. epilogues.[[/note]] Cover duties switched to Kevin Keele by the time Stone Arch published ''Hit the Road, Helen!''
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* HilariousInHindsight: Hades first finds Theseus trying to lift a boulder the same way he expects Hercules to... with his big toe. This makes more sense after Hades recalls his own exploits with DumbMuscle Hercules.
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* HilariousInHindsight: In ''Stop That Bull, Theseus!'', Hades first finds Theseus trying to lift a boulder the same way he expects Hercules to... with his big toe. This makes more sense after Hades recalls his own exploits with DumbMuscle Hercules.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Hades first finds Theseus trying to lift a boulder the same way he expects Hercules to... with his big toe. This makes more sense after Hades recalls his own exploits with DumbMuscle Hercules.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: While Zeus' versions of the myths distorted mortals' perception on who is good or evil, one can't blame him for re-writing parts that wouldn't have made sense to Ancient Greek readers (eg, the gods using technology that hadn't developed on Earth yet).
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* UglyCute: Cerberus having three heads makes him sound frightening, but his mutual devotion to Hades proves adorable.
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* UglyCute: Cerberus having Cerberus' three heads makes make him sound look frightening, but his mutual devotion to Hades proves adorable.
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* UncannyValley: The caricatured covers that Denis Zilber illustrated for the Stone Arch versions of the first eight books might have this, to readers introduced to the series via either the Hyperion or the Scholastic editions, which used more realistically-proportioned and painterly covers from David [=LaFleur=][[note]]Who also illustrated ''Myth-O-Mania'' maps and trading cards, and excerpts of ''The Big Fat Book of Greek Myths'' that Hades shared in the prologues and epilogues[[/note]]. Cover duties switched to Kevin Keele by the time Stone Arch published ''Hit the Road, Helen!''Helen!''
* UglyCute: Despite Cerberus' three heads, his mutual devotion to Hades proves adorable.
* UnexpectedCharacter: The updated epilogue to ''Get to Work, Hercules!'' plays up the sight of Hestia[[note]]goddess of the hearth and Hades' third-youngest sister[[/note]] working for Stone Arch as a surprise, which could work on readers who've noticed that she rarely plays a major role in Greek myth retellings, including prior ''Myth-O-Mania'' novels.
* UglyCute: Despite Cerberus' three heads, his mutual devotion to Hades proves adorable.
* UnexpectedCharacter: The updated epilogue to ''Get to Work, Hercules!'' plays up the sight of Hestia[[note]]goddess of the hearth and Hades' third-youngest sister[[/note]] working for Stone Arch as a surprise, which could work on readers who've noticed that she rarely plays a major role in Greek myth retellings, including prior ''Myth-O-Mania'' novels.
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* NightmareFuel:
** ''Have a Hot Time, Hades!'' provides a rare first-person account of baby Hades getting swallowed by Cronus, capped off with Hades hearing a scream from Rhea.
** ''Say Cheese, Medusa!'' really plays up the Gorgons' TransformationHorror.
** ''Have a Hot Time, Hades!'' provides a rare first-person account of baby Hades getting swallowed by Cronus, capped off with Hades hearing a scream from Rhea.
** ''Say Cheese, Medusa!'' really plays up the Gorgons' TransformationHorror.
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* UncannyValley: The caricatured covers that Denis Zilber illustrated for the Stone Arch versions of the first eight books might have this, to readers introduced to the series via either the Hyperion or the Scholastic editions, which used more realistically-proportioned and painterly covers from David [=LaFleur=][[note]]Who also illustrated ''Myth-O-Mania'' maps and trading cards, and excerpts of ''The Big Fat Book of Greek Myths'' that Hades shared in the prologues and epilogues[[/note]]. Interestingly, cover Cover duties switched to Kevin Keele by the time Stone Arch published ''Hit the Road, Helen!''
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* MagnificentBastard: Odysseus seems like one of, if not the, cleverest mortals Hades knows, but also one of the most boastful and dishonest.
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* UncannyValley: The caricatured covers that Kevin Keele Denis Zilber illustrated for the Stone Arch versions of the first eight books might have this, to readers introduced to the series via either the Hyperion or the Scholastic editions, which used more realistically-proportioned and painterly covers from David [=LaFleur=][[note]]Who also illustrated ''Myth-O-Mania'' trading cards, and excerpts of ''The Big Fat Book of Greek Myths'' that Hades shared in the prologues and epilogues[[/note]].epilogues[[/note]]. Interestingly, cover duties switched to Kevin Keele by the time Stone Arch published ''Hit the Road, Helen!''
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* UncannyValley: The caricatured covers that Kevin Keele illustrated for the Stone Arch versions might have this this, to readers introduced to the series via either the Hyperion or the Scholastic editions, which used more realistically-proportioned and painterly covers from David [=LaFleur=][[note]]Who also illustrated ''Myth-O-Mania'' trading cards, and excerpts of ''The Big Fat Book of Greek Myths'' that Hades shared in the prologues and epilogues[[/note]].
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