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** It's nearly impossible to talk about this series without mentioning that one of the arcs serves as an OriginsEpisode for Stain.

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** It's nearly impossible to talk about this series Stendhal, the mysterious masked swordsman who appears in a few early chapters, without mentioning that one of the arcs serves as an OriginsEpisode for he's Stain.
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** Some fans prefer to not acknowledge the spin-off as canon to the main series, particularly in regards to the inclusion of mainline characters. Common reasons are that the backstories given in the series are disappointing[[note]]Such as Tsukauchi learning All Might's secret due to a slip up, as well as not being involved in the conflict with All for One.[[/note]], characters seemingly acting OutOfCharacter[[note]]Such as Endeavor attacking a bomb-person with flames, making him seem oddly incompetent for the No. 2 hero, or Midnight's over-sexuality, and while the latter is more debatable (she's pretty in-your-face about her sexuality in the main series too), the former is especially jarring since Endeavor is established to be one of the most intelligent characters in the main series. And he's already been a pro hero for at least 20 years, so it's not like it can be excused as a rookie mistake.[[/note]]

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** Some fans prefer to not acknowledge the spin-off as canon to the main series, particularly in regards to the inclusion of mainline characters. Common reasons are that the backstories given in the series are disappointing[[note]]Such disappointing,[[note]]Such as Tsukauchi learning All Might's secret due to a slip up, as well as not being involved in the conflict with All for One.[[/note]], [[/note]] and characters seemingly acting OutOfCharacter[[note]]Such OutOfCharacter.[[note]]Such as Endeavor attacking a bomb-person with flames, making him seem oddly incompetent for the No. 2 hero, or Midnight's over-sexuality, and while the latter is more debatable (she's pretty in-your-face about her sexuality in the main series too), the former is especially jarring since Endeavor is established to be one of the most intelligent characters in the main series. And he's He's already been a pro hero for at least 20 years, so it's not like it can be excused as a rookie mistake.[[/note]]



* {{Squick}}: Queen Bee's victims are pretty much corpses who had sucked all their blood for bees.

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* {{Squick}}: Queen Bee's victims are pretty much corpses who have had sucked all their blood for sucked by bees.



** Becomes especially tragic as, shortly after that arc wrapped up, the main series [[spoiler:has dropped the revelation that the villain Kurogiri is a revived Shirakumo or, at the very least, was created using his quirk ''[[DesecratingTheDead and his corpse]]'' as a base. And worse, the attack was orchestrated by All For One and the Doctor, all so they could get their hands on "Erasure". In the end, Shirakumo not only died protecting innocent civilians, he died protecting his best friend.]]
** [[spoiler:Pop Step being declared a villain. The media widely publicize the news about her crimes, ruining her reputation in the process, and even her parents believe that she was willingly responsible for those crimes. Her friends are heartbroken to know that she'll be arrested and charged as an adult, assuming she doesn't end up being killed.]]
** Chapter 81 opens with [[spoiler:Pop imagining how a life with Koichi, complete with kids, could have been, constantly punctuated with "This could've been our future".]] And at the end of the same chapter, [[spoiler:just as Koichi has managed to reach out to her real feelings, and not the love turned into hate by the parasite wasp, Six shoots her.]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: While not outright wasted, there are some fans who wished that Knuckleduster would be more apperent later in the series, instead of being PutOnTheBus several times, especially during Naruhata Fest stuff which some consider low-point of the series and Knuckleduster becomes more of a HeroOfAnotherStory. It's espexially jarring, since he's pretty much a third most important in the story.

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** Becomes especially tragic as, shortly after that arc wrapped up, the main series [[spoiler:has dropped the revelation that the villain Kurogiri is a revived Shirakumo or, at the very least, was created using his quirk ''[[DesecratingTheDead and his corpse]]'' as a base. And worse, Worse, the attack was orchestrated by All For One and the Doctor, all so they could get their hands on "Erasure". In the end, Shirakumo not only died protecting innocent civilians, he died protecting his best friend.]]
** [[spoiler:Pop Pop Step being [[spoiler:being declared a villain. The media widely publicize the news about her crimes, ruining her reputation in the process, and even her parents believe that she was willingly responsible for those crimes. Her friends are heartbroken to know that she'll be arrested and charged as an adult, assuming she doesn't end up being killed.]]
** Chapter 81 opens with [[spoiler:Pop imagining how a life with Koichi, complete with kids, could have been, constantly punctuated with "This could've been our future".]] And at At the end of the same chapter, [[spoiler:just as Koichi has managed to reach out to her real feelings, and not the love turned into hate by the parasite wasp, Six shoots her.]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: While not outright wasted, there are some fans who wished that Knuckleduster would be more apperent apparent later in the series, instead of being PutOnTheBus several times, especially during Naruhata Fest stuff which some consider the low-point of the series and where Knuckleduster becomes more of a HeroOfAnotherStory. It's espexially especially jarring, since he's pretty much a the third most important in the story.
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* EvilIsCool: Number 6 is often viewed as one of the highlights of the series thanks to his [[AxCrazy interesting]] [[IJustWantToBeYou characterization]], being an EvilCounterpart to Koichi, and having several cool Quirks. Even those who didn't care much for the series found him compelling to read about.

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* EvilIsCool: Number 6 is often viewed as one of the highlights of the series thanks to his [[AxCrazy interesting]] [[IJustWantToBeYou characterization]], being an EvilCounterpart to Koichi, and having several cool Quirks.quirks. Even those who didn't care much for the series found him compelling to read about.
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* EvilIsCool: Number 6 is often viewed as one of the highlights of the series thanks to his [[AxCrazy interesting]] [[IJustWantToBeYou characterization]], being an EvilCounterpart to Koichi, and having several cool Quirks.

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* EvilIsCool: Number 6 is often viewed as one of the highlights of the series thanks to his [[AxCrazy interesting]] [[IJustWantToBeYou characterization]], being an EvilCounterpart to Koichi, and having several cool Quirks. Even those who didn't care much for the series found him compelling to read about.
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* EvilIsCool: Number 6 is often viewed as one of the highlights of the series thanks to his [[AxCrazy interesting]] [[IJustWantToBeYou characterization]], being an EvilCounterpart to Koichi, and having several cool Quirks.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: While not outright wasted, there are some fans who wished that Knuckleduster would be more apperent later in the series, instead of being PutOnTheBus several times, especially during Naruhata Fest stuff which some consider low-point of the series and Knuckleduster becomes more of a HeroofAnotherStory. It's espexially jarring, since he's pretty much a third most important in the story.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: While not outright wasted, there are some fans who wished that Knuckleduster would be more apperent later in the series, instead of being PutOnTheBus several times, especially during Naruhata Fest stuff which some consider low-point of the series and Knuckleduster becomes more of a HeroofAnotherStory.HeroOfAnotherStory. It's espexially jarring, since he's pretty much a third most important in the story.
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** ''Vigilantes'' is seen by many as the reason to even care about Tensei Iida. In the main series, his role was largely limited to being the motivation for his younger brother Tenya, as it was Tensei's confrontation with [[spoiler:and crippling by]] Stain that serves as the impetus behind Tenya's actions in the Hosu arc, after which the most Tensei comes up is in a flashback regarding Tenya [[TimeToUnlockMoreTruePotential upgrading his Quirk]]. ''Vigilantes'' meanwhile establishes Tenya as a major character by striking up a rapport with Koichi, focusing on his time as "Ingenium" and leading his agency as AFatherToHisMen, and just being a nice person overall, to the point he became an EnsembleDarkhorse. This in turn gave many readers a ''reason'' to share Tenya's dismay [[spoiler:when they see him in the hospital gravely injured.]]

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** ''Vigilantes'' is seen by many as the reason to even care about Tensei Iida. In the main series, his role was largely limited to being the motivation for his younger brother Tenya, as it was Tensei's confrontation with [[spoiler:and crippling by]] Stain that serves as the impetus behind Tenya's actions in the Hosu arc, after which the most Tensei comes up is in a flashback regarding Tenya [[TimeToUnlockMoreTruePotential upgrading his Quirk]]. ''Vigilantes'' meanwhile establishes Tenya Tensei as a major character by striking up a rapport with Koichi, focusing on his time as "Ingenium" and leading his agency as AFatherToHisMen, and just being a nice person overall, to the point he became an EnsembleDarkhorse. This in turn gave many readers a ''reason'' to share Tenya's dismay [[spoiler:when they see him in the hospital gravely injured.]]
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** Many readers consider Furuhashi to be the writer who made Midnight shine as a character, fleshing her out beyond the standard MsFanservice {{Sadist}} she was in the main series, namely via her relationships with Aizawa and Kazuho, and exploring her motivations behind being a teacher being she wants to steer victimized teenagers away from the path of villainy. While the main series already saw criticism for barely nodding to the series outside of [[spoiler:Shirakumo]] despite the claims of it being canon, it faced a ''lot'' of criticism for it's treatment of Midnight, who was [[AdaptedOut excised]] from her role in [[spoiler:Aizawa's past with Shirakumo]], and had little exploration of her character outside of a motherly aspect to her students [[spoiler:[[ADeathInTheLimelight right before her death]], which isn't even focused on for long due to the sheer ''[[AMillionIsAStatistic scale]]'' of the incident, upon which her only relevancy is serving as motivation for Mina in the final arc]], leading to many thinking the series [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wasted her]] after all ''Vigilantes'' did to flesh her out.

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** Many readers consider Furuhashi to be the writer who made Midnight shine as a character, fleshing her out beyond the standard MsFanservice {{Sadist}} she was in the main series, namely via her relationships with Aizawa and Kazuho, and exploring her motivations behind being a teacher being she wants to steer victimized teenagers away from the path of villainy. While the main series already saw criticism for barely nodding to the series outside of [[spoiler:Shirakumo]] despite the claims of it being canon, it faced a ''lot'' of criticism for it's its treatment of Midnight, who was [[AdaptedOut excised]] from her role in [[spoiler:Aizawa's past with Shirakumo]], and had little exploration of her character outside of a motherly aspect to her students [[spoiler:[[ADeathInTheLimelight right before her death]], which isn't even focused on for long due to the sheer ''[[AMillionIsAStatistic scale]]'' of the incident, upon which her only relevancy is serving as motivation for Mina in the final arc]], leading to many thinking the series [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wasted her]] after all ''Vigilantes'' did to flesh her out.



* UnexpectedCharacter: The second flashback arc, starting with Chapter 86, features [[spoiler:a younger Kendo Rappa before he was "recruited" by Overhaul"]]. Even less fans expected the following chapter to get [[spoiler:hero student Rumi Usagiyama, the future Mirko]], involved.

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* UnexpectedCharacter: The second flashback arc, starting with Chapter 86, features [[spoiler:a younger Kendo Rappa before he was "recruited" by Overhaul"]].Overhaul]]. Even less fans expected the following chapter to get [[spoiler:hero student Rumi Usagiyama, the future Mirko]], involved.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The reveal that [[spoiler:All For One is behind the events of the series can feel like this, as it muscles in on the exploration of the societal impact of quirks and what makes a hero/villain/vigilante and takes over entirely by the final arc; by presenting All For One as the key villain of the parent series and the GreaterScopeVillain of Vigilantes, it can feel like ''he'' is the only real problem the world faces]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[AnimalisticAbomination Queen Bee]], aka [[TheHeavy Kuin Hachisuka]], is a Quirk-using [[BeeAfraid queen bee]] and [[Characters/MyHeroAcademiaVigilantesVillainFactory a dealer for the dangerous drug Trigger]]. Having critically wounded the wife of the hero Knuckleduster and possessed his daughter Tamao, Queen Bee proceeds to infect innocent civilians with Trigger, causing painful rampages. Queen Bee then convinces the vigilante Stendahl to murder delinquents, causes a passenger-filled bus to crash, and infects one of her friends. Queen Bee then attempts to infect an entire concert with Trigger and tries to detonate explosive-filled bees when cornered and kill Tamao out of spite for her father. Upon barely surviving, the remaining Queen Bee infects and possesses the hero Kazuho Haneyama, driving her mad and causing her to become "Bee Pop" and go on a bombing rampage with full intent to murder as many civilians as she possibly can to get the attention of the heroic Koichi. Aiming to kill countless civilians and [[FameThroughInfamy be remembered]] while also ruining the lives of Koichi and Kazuho, Queen Bee proves her deadly influence exists even long after her supposed "death".

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* CompleteMonster: [[AnimalisticAbomination Queen Bee]], aka [[TheHeavy Kuin Hachisuka]], is a Quirk-using [[BeeAfraid queen bee]] and [[Characters/MyHeroAcademiaVigilantesVillainFactory a dealer for the dangerous drug Trigger]]. Having critically wounded the wife of the hero Knuckleduster and possessed his daughter Tamao, Queen Bee proceeds to infect innocent civilians with Trigger, causing painful rampages. Queen Bee then convinces the vigilante Stendahl to murder delinquents, delinquents; causes a passenger-filled bus to crash, crash; and infects one of her friends. Queen Bee then attempts to infect an entire concert with Trigger and tries to detonate explosive-filled bees when cornered and kill Tamao out of spite for her father. Upon barely surviving, the remaining Queen Bee infects and possesses the hero Kazuho Haneyama, driving her mad and causing her to become "Bee Pop" and go on a bombing rampage with full intent to murder as many civilians as she possibly can to get the attention of the heroic Koichi. Aiming to kill countless civilians and [[FameThroughInfamy be remembered]] while also ruining the lives of Koichi and Kazuho, Queen Bee proves her deadly influence exists even long after her supposed "death".
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These were all seperate crimes


* CompleteMonster: [[AnimalisticAbomination Queen Bee]], aka [[TheHeavy Kuin Hachisuka]], is a Quirk-using [[BeeAfraid queen bee]] and [[Characters/MyHeroAcademiaVigilantesVillainFactory a dealer for the dangerous drug Trigger]]. Having critically wounded the wife of the hero Knuckleduster and possessed his daughter Tamao, Queen Bee proceeds to infect innocent civilians with Trigger, causing painful rampages. Queen Bee then convinces the vigilante Stendahl to murder delinquents, causing a passenger-filled bus to crash and infecting one of her friends. Queen Bee then attempts to infect an entire concert with Trigger and tries to detonate explosive-filled bees when cornered and kill Tamao out of spite for her father. Upon barely surviving, the remaining Queen Bee infects and possesses the hero Kazuho Haneyama, driving her mad and causing her to become "Bee Pop" and go on a bombing rampage with full intent to murder as many civilians as she possibly can to get the attention of the heroic Koichi. Aiming to kill countless civilians and [[FameThroughInfamy be remembered]] while also ruining the lives of Koichi and Kazuho, Queen Bee proves her deadly influence exists even long after her supposed "death".

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* CompleteMonster: [[AnimalisticAbomination Queen Bee]], aka [[TheHeavy Kuin Hachisuka]], is a Quirk-using [[BeeAfraid queen bee]] and [[Characters/MyHeroAcademiaVigilantesVillainFactory a dealer for the dangerous drug Trigger]]. Having critically wounded the wife of the hero Knuckleduster and possessed his daughter Tamao, Queen Bee proceeds to infect innocent civilians with Trigger, causing painful rampages. Queen Bee then convinces the vigilante Stendahl to murder delinquents, causing causes a passenger-filled bus to crash crash, and infecting infects one of her friends. Queen Bee then attempts to infect an entire concert with Trigger and tries to detonate explosive-filled bees when cornered and kill Tamao out of spite for her father. Upon barely surviving, the remaining Queen Bee infects and possesses the hero Kazuho Haneyama, driving her mad and causing her to become "Bee Pop" and go on a bombing rampage with full intent to murder as many civilians as she possibly can to get the attention of the heroic Koichi. Aiming to kill countless civilians and [[FameThroughInfamy be remembered]] while also ruining the lives of Koichi and Kazuho, Queen Bee proves her deadly influence exists even long after her supposed "death".
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* CrazyIsCool: Knuckleduster. A BloodKnight NinetiesAntiHero who follows a very specific "punch first, ask questions later" mindset and is so strong he can literally knock out giants, even though he's ''[[BadassNormal quirk-less]]''. He's basically what would happen if you put ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' into ''Franchise/MyHeroAcademia''.

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* CrazyIsCool: Knuckleduster. A BloodKnight NinetiesAntiHero who follows a very specific "punch first, ask questions later" mindset and is so strong he can literally knock out giants, even though he's ''[[BadassNormal quirk-less]]''. He's basically what would happen if you put ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' into ''Franchise/MyHeroAcademia''.the ''Franchise/MyHeroAcademia'' universe.
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* CrazyIsCool: Knuckleduster. A BloodKnight NinetiesAntiHero who follows a very specific "punch first, ask questions later" mindset and is so strong he can literally knock out giants, even though he's ''[[BadassNormal quirk-less]]''. He's basically what would happen if you put Franchise/''{{Batman}}'' into Franchise/''MyHeroAcademia''.

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* CrazyIsCool: Knuckleduster. A BloodKnight NinetiesAntiHero who follows a very specific "punch first, ask questions later" mindset and is so strong he can literally knock out giants, even though he's ''[[BadassNormal quirk-less]]''. He's basically what would happen if you put Franchise/''{{Batman}}'' ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' into Franchise/''MyHeroAcademia''.''Franchise/MyHeroAcademia''.
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* CrazyIsCool: Knuckleduster. A BloodKnight NinetiesAntiHero who follows a very specific "punch first, ask questions later" mindset and is so strong he can literally knock out giants, even though he's ''[[BadassNormal quirk-less]]''. He's basically what would happen if you put Franchise/{{Batman}} into Franchise/MyHeroAcademia.

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* CrazyIsCool: Knuckleduster. A BloodKnight NinetiesAntiHero who follows a very specific "punch first, ask questions later" mindset and is so strong he can literally knock out giants, even though he's ''[[BadassNormal quirk-less]]''. He's basically what would happen if you put Franchise/{{Batman}} Franchise/''{{Batman}}'' into Franchise/MyHeroAcademia.Franchise/''MyHeroAcademia''.
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* GrowingTheBeard: For many the series gets noticeably better within the first big arc of the story ''Vs Queen Bee Arc'' or/and mid-halfway with "Sky Egg Arc". Others also consider this being the case even earlier around the first Ingenium chapter and introducing Stendhal.

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* GrowingTheBeard: For many many, the series gets noticeably better within the first big arc of the story ''Vs the "Vs. Queen Bee Arc'' or/and Arc" and/or mid-halfway with the "Sky Egg Arc". Others also Some consider this being the case even earlier around the first Ingenium chapter and introducing Stendhal. Stendhal.
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* CrazyIsCool: Knuckleduster. A BloodKnight NinetiesAntiHero who follows a very specific "punch first, ask questions later" mindset and is so strong he can literally knock out giants, even though he's ''[[BadassNormal quirk-less]]''. He's basically what would happen if you put Franchise/{{Batman}} into the ''My Hero Academia'' universe.

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* CrazyIsCool: Knuckleduster. A BloodKnight NinetiesAntiHero who follows a very specific "punch first, ask questions later" mindset and is so strong he can literally knock out giants, even though he's ''[[BadassNormal quirk-less]]''. He's basically what would happen if you put Franchise/{{Batman}} into the ''My Hero Academia'' universe.Franchise/MyHeroAcademia.
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* CrazyIsCool: Knuckleduster. A BadassNormal 90sAntiHero who follows a very specific "punch first, ask questions later" mindset and is so strong he can literally knock out giants. Being quirk-less and still managing to take on pro heroes like Eraser Head will certainly earn you this title.

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* CrazyIsCool: Knuckleduster. A BadassNormal 90sAntiHero BloodKnight NinetiesAntiHero who follows a very specific "punch first, ask questions later" mindset and is so strong he can literally knock out giants. Being quirk-less and still managing to take on pro heroes like Eraser Head will certainly earn giants, even though he's ''[[BadassNormal quirk-less]]''. He's basically what would happen if you this title.put Franchise/{{Batman}} into the ''My Hero Academia'' universe.
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* CrazyIsCool: Knuckleduster. A BadassNormal 90sAntiHero who follows a very specific "punch first, ask questions later" mindset and is so strong he can literally knock out giants. Being quirk-less and still managing to take on pro heroes like Eraser Head will certainly earn you this title.
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** It's nearly impossible to talk about this series without mentioning that one of the arcs serves as an OriginStory for Stain.

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** It's nearly impossible to talk about this series without mentioning that one of the arcs serves as an OriginStory OriginsEpisode for Stain.
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He was never a scrappy or even a BBC, and the entry doesn't adequately explain what the Hidden Depths are that would warrant "rescuing" him and seems more content trying to compare him to the characters of the main series.


* RescuedFromtheScrappyHeap: Captain Celebrity is a ''very'' arrogant AttentionWhore, but midway through Sky Egg Arc he gets many awesome moments with also a rather sympathetic backstory that shows that, just like many other characters in the original series, has many HiddenDepths.
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Grammar issues, and the only part that could be considered accurate is the claims Shirakumo should have been explained in the main series, which falls more under Continuity Lockout.


** Some fans prefer to not acknowledge the spin-off as canon to the main series, particularly in regards to the inclusion of mainline characters. Common reasons are that the backstories given in the series are disappointing[[note]]Such as Tsukauchi learning All Might's secret due to a slip up, as well as not being involved in the conflict with All for One.[[/note]], characters seemingly acting OutOfCharacter[[note]]Such as Endeavor attacking a bomb-person with flames, making him seem oddly incompetent for the No. 2 hero, or Midnight's over-sexuality, and while the latter is more debatable (she's pretty in-your-face about her sexuality in the main series too), the former is especially jarring since Endeavor is established to be one of the most intelligent characters in the main series. And he's already been a pro hero for at least 20 years, so it's not like it can be excused as a rookie mistake.[[/note]] or how handled certain arcs are.[[note]]School Days Arc which potrayes Aizawa's flashbacks tends to be criticised how rather poorly explained it is and that it belongs to be told in original manga rather than a much less popular spin-off. The Stendhal arc also received some criticism for similiar reasons.[[/note]]

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** Some fans prefer to not acknowledge the spin-off as canon to the main series, particularly in regards to the inclusion of mainline characters. Common reasons are that the backstories given in the series are disappointing[[note]]Such as Tsukauchi learning All Might's secret due to a slip up, as well as not being involved in the conflict with All for One.[[/note]], characters seemingly acting OutOfCharacter[[note]]Such as Endeavor attacking a bomb-person with flames, making him seem oddly incompetent for the No. 2 hero, or Midnight's over-sexuality, and while the latter is more debatable (she's pretty in-your-face about her sexuality in the main series too), the former is especially jarring since Endeavor is established to be one of the most intelligent characters in the main series. And he's already been a pro hero for at least 20 years, so it's not like it can be excused as a rookie mistake.[[/note]] or how handled certain arcs are.[[note]]School Days Arc which potrayes Aizawa's flashbacks tends to be criticised how rather poorly explained it is and that it belongs to be told in original manga rather than a much less popular spin-off. The Stendhal arc also received some criticism for similiar reasons.[[/note]]
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Not what Broken Base is, and tropes should never refer to other trope entries for context.


* BrokenBase: Better ''don't'' start the discussion how Vigilantes is better than original story. More explained in FanonDiscontinuity and SoOkayItsAverage below.
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Issues with grammar, use of Flame Bait tropes like Gary Stu, and the entry itself is not reflective of the actual opinions of the readership which has mainly positive feelings towards the series sans the Arc Fatigue from Six's final fight.


* SoOkayItsAverage: Ultimately, this is how many fans of MHA feel about the manga. Despite being an interesting prequel to main story with a few new cool characters such us Knuckleduster and some from the main series like Ingenium, Aizawa or Midnight, this doesn't save criticism towards how messy and tonally inconsistent it can be, with GarySue VanillaProtagonist being the main focus instead of other, better characters. Not to mention that even more positive readers say that the manga would've been better if it wasn't officially canon to the main universe. Even the art itself despite considered quite decent, it tries to mimic Horikoshi's style with mixed results. Ironically, this is how detractors point much of this criticism towards original manga, and consider ''Vigilantes'' better quality wise.
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* RescuedFromtheScrappyHeap: Captain Celebrity is a ''very'' arrogant AttentionWhore, but midway through Sky Egg Arc he gets many awesome moments with also a rather sympathetic backstory that shows that, just like many other characters in the original series, has many HiddenDepths.

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* BrokenBase: Better ''don't'' start the discussion how Vigilantes is better than original story. More explained in FanonDiscontinuity and SoOkayItsAverage below.



** Some fans prefer to not acknowledge the spin-off as canon to the main series, particularly in regards to the inclusion of mainline characters. Common reasons are that the backstories given in the series are disappointing[[note]]Such as Tsukauchi learning All Might's secret due to a slip up, as well as not being involved in the conflict with All for One[[/note]] or characters seemingly acting OutOfCharacter.[[note]]Such as Endeavor attacking a bomb-person with flames, making him seem oddly incompetent for the No. 2 hero, or Midnight's over-sexuality, and while the latter is more debatable (she's pretty in-your-face about her sexuality in the main series too), the former is especially jarring since Endeavor is established to be one of the most intelligent characters in the main series. And he's already been a pro hero for at least 20 years, so it's not like it can be excused as a rookie mistake.[[/note]]

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** Some fans prefer to not acknowledge the spin-off as canon to the main series, particularly in regards to the inclusion of mainline characters. Common reasons are that the backstories given in the series are disappointing[[note]]Such as Tsukauchi learning All Might's secret due to a slip up, as well as not being involved in the conflict with All for One[[/note]] or One.[[/note]], characters seemingly acting OutOfCharacter.[[note]]Such OutOfCharacter[[note]]Such as Endeavor attacking a bomb-person with flames, making him seem oddly incompetent for the No. 2 hero, or Midnight's over-sexuality, and while the latter is more debatable (she's pretty in-your-face about her sexuality in the main series too), the former is especially jarring since Endeavor is established to be one of the most intelligent characters in the main series. And he's already been a pro hero for at least 20 years, so it's not like it can be excused as a rookie mistake.[[/note]] or how handled certain arcs are.[[note]]School Days Arc which potrayes Aizawa's flashbacks tends to be criticised how rather poorly explained it is and that it belongs to be told in original manga rather than a much less popular spin-off. The Stendhal arc also received some criticism for similiar reasons.[[/note]]



* GrowingTheBeard: For many the series gets noticeably better within the first big arc of the story ''Vs Queen Bee Arc'' or/and mid-halfway with "Sky Egg Arc". Others also consider this being the case even earlier around the first Ingenium chapter.

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* GrowingTheBeard: For many the series gets noticeably better within the first big arc of the story ''Vs Queen Bee Arc'' or/and mid-halfway with "Sky Egg Arc". Others also consider this being the case even earlier around the first Ingenium chapter.chapter and introducing Stendhal.


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* SoOkayItsAverage: Ultimately, this is how many fans of MHA feel about the manga. Despite being an interesting prequel to main story with a few new cool characters such us Knuckleduster and some from the main series like Ingenium, Aizawa or Midnight, this doesn't save criticism towards how messy and tonally inconsistent it can be, with GarySue VanillaProtagonist being the main focus instead of other, better characters. Not to mention that even more positive readers say that the manga would've been better if it wasn't officially canon to the main universe. Even the art itself despite considered quite decent, it tries to mimic Horikoshi's style with mixed results. Ironically, this is how detractors point much of this criticism towards original manga, and consider ''Vigilantes'' better quality wise.

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