History YMMV / Mulan

13th Apr '17 12:36:06 PM hack-normal
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Sexism is bad.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Sexism is bad. bad, m'kay?
7th Apr '17 8:42:50 PM Everlighte
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: Gender roles and sexism. See {{Anvilicious}}.



* ValuesDissonance: "I'll Make a Man Out of You" has the rather sexist line "Did they send me daughters/When I asked for sons?". Considering what story this is, [[DeliberateValuesDissonance that's probably the point]].
2nd Apr '17 12:55:23 PM NWolfman
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** Shan-Yu gets his cape stuck on a roof at one point, resulting in him being hit by an incoming rocket. [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles Edna Mode's]] famous insistence on "NO CAPES!" has been a proven concept for years.

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** Shan-Yu gets his cape stuck "Shan-Yu, snag on a roof at one point, resulting in him being rooftop, hit by an incoming rocket. rocket! [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles Edna Mode's]] famous insistence on "NO CAPES!" has been a proven concept for years.NO CAPES!]]"
2nd Apr '17 9:07:45 AM mariofan1000
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%%** "They popped out of the snow! LIKE DAISIES!!!"
%%** "Dishonor on you! Dishonor on your cow!" is not an uncommon caption.
%%** "'''BEEF!''' '''PORK!''' '''CHICKEN!''' Mmmm..."
%%** "You missed! How could you miss?! He was three feet in front of you!"

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%%** "They popped out of ** The limited-time McDonalds Szechuan Dipping Sauce made to promote this movie. After the snow! LIKE DAISIES!!!"
%%** "Dishonor on you! Dishonor on your cow!" is not an uncommon caption.
%%** "'''BEEF!''' '''PORK!''' '''CHICKEN!''' Mmmm..."
%%** "You missed! How could you miss?! He
Season 3 premiere of ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' turned it, and the fact that it was three feet in front of you!"apparently delicious, into a RunningGag, the internet exploded with requests to McDonalds for it to be brought back.
16th Mar '17 11:01:22 PM jormis29
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!!The 2009 Chinese film
* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Mengdu]] is TheEvilPrince of the Rouran tribes. [[EstablishingCharacterMoment He is first seen]] ordering some prisoners slaughtered ForTheEvulz. After being forced to stop by his father, Mengdu suggests that they use their recently-united army to conquer China, kicking off a war that's so severe that China must conscript one man from every military family. After twelve years of fighting, and the men tired of war, Mengdu kills one general who tried to convince the others to go home, [[{{Patricide}} kills his father to take over the army]], declares that the war will continue and [[BrotherSisterIncest forces his sister to marry him]]. After Mengdu finds [[TheProtagonist Hua Mulan]]'s army weakened by a sandstorm, he decides to stop them by [[ColdBloodedTorture torturing his POWs]] to draw the soldiers out and killing them as they do. Soon, Mengdu gets impatient and orders the prisoners slaughtered, only stopping when a prince who happened to be in the army offers himself as a hostage.

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!!The 2009 Chinese film
* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Mengdu]] is TheEvilPrince of the Rouran tribes. [[EstablishingCharacterMoment He is first seen]] ordering some prisoners slaughtered ForTheEvulz. After being forced to stop by his father, Mengdu suggests that they use their recently-united army to conquer China, kicking off a war that's so severe that China must conscript one man from every military family. After twelve years of fighting, and the men tired of war, Mengdu kills one general who tried to convince the others to go home, [[{{Patricide}} kills his father to take over the army]], declares that the war will continue and [[BrotherSisterIncest forces his sister to marry him]]. After Mengdu finds [[TheProtagonist Hua Mulan]]'s army weakened by a sandstorm, he decides to stop them by [[ColdBloodedTorture torturing his POWs]] to draw the soldiers out and killing them as they do. Soon, Mengdu gets impatient and orders the prisoners slaughtered, only stopping when a prince who happened to be in the army offers himself as a hostage.
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8th Mar '17 8:18:00 PM nombretomado
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: There's a lot of combat in the movie, but for the most part it's kept offscreen, or consists of ranged combat at a distance that keeps casualties from being seen. After the outstanding success of the DreamworksAnimation ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' franchise established that ferociously wild, if stylized, {{Wuxia}} action with innumerable connecting kicks and punches are now acceptable family entertainment, ''Mulan'' comes off as rather timid.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: There's a lot of combat in the movie, but for the most part it's kept offscreen, or consists of ranged combat at a distance that keeps casualties from being seen. After the outstanding success of the DreamworksAnimation Creator/DreamworksAnimation ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' franchise established that ferociously wild, if stylized, {{Wuxia}} action with innumerable connecting kicks and punches are now acceptable family entertainment, ''Mulan'' comes off as rather timid.
8th Mar '17 8:16:37 PM nombretomado
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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite famous voice actors such as Creator/JackieChan and using a local folk tale, the movie didn't do much at the Chinese box office. Some blame piracy, some worry that the native audience took issue with [[BroadStrokes the extensive reworking]] [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks of the original myth]], and some point to the fact that the Chinese government was in the middle of a bitter and spiteful dispute with the Walt Disney corporation thanks to Disney's Creator/TouchstonePictures label releasing ''Film/{{Kundun}}'', which prompted the Chinese to ban its helmer Creator/MartinScorsese from getting back into China and force ''Mulan'' to languish for a year before letting it out with an unfavorable release date just after the Chinese New Year's celebration stuffed the box office with other films (on top of that, ''Film/{{Kundun}}'' was a BoxOfficeBomb). Ten years later, DreamworksAnimation's ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' would prove much more to Chinese tastes.

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* AmericansHateTingle: Despite famous voice actors such as Creator/JackieChan and using a local folk tale, the movie didn't do much at the Chinese box office. Some blame piracy, some worry that the native audience took issue with [[BroadStrokes the extensive reworking]] [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks of the original myth]], and some point to the fact that the Chinese government was in the middle of a bitter and spiteful dispute with the Walt Disney corporation thanks to Disney's Creator/TouchstonePictures label releasing ''Film/{{Kundun}}'', which prompted the Chinese to ban its helmer Creator/MartinScorsese from getting back into China and force ''Mulan'' to languish for a year before letting it out with an unfavorable release date just after the Chinese New Year's celebration stuffed the box office with other films (on top of that, ''Film/{{Kundun}}'' was a BoxOfficeBomb). Ten years later, DreamworksAnimation's Creator/DreamworksAnimation's ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' would prove much more to Chinese tastes.
15th Feb '17 11:02:30 PM NWolfman
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* {{Applicability}}: Even if Fa Mulan is not intended to be literally transgender, nevertheless the movie's themes resonate strongly with the trans and other members of the LGBT community.

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* {{Applicability}}: Even if Though Fa Mulan is not intended to be literally transgender, nevertheless doesn't adapt a male persona as a result of gender dysphoria, "Reflection" has been heavily embraced by the movie's themes resonate strongly with the trans transgender community, and other members of the LGBT community.LGBTQ+ persons in general.
9th Dec '16 9:22:51 PM theladyfromplanetx
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*** It helps that he's voiced by [[Film/FlowerDrumSong James Shigeta]]

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*** It helps that he's voiced by [[Film/FlowerDrumSong James Shigeta]]Shigeta.
9th Dec '16 9:16:57 PM theladyfromplanetx
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*** It helps that he's voiced by [[Film/FlowerDrumSong James Shigeta]]
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