History YMMV / Mulan

9th Dec '16 9:22:51 PM theladyfromplanetx
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*** It helps that he's voiced by [[Film/FlowerDrumSong James Shigeta]]

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*** It helps that he's voiced by [[Film/FlowerDrumSong James Shigeta]]Shigeta.
9th Dec '16 9:16:57 PM theladyfromplanetx
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*** It helps that he's voiced by [[Film/FlowerDrumSong James Shigeta]]
8th Dec '16 11:49:41 PM jameygamer
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* FirstInstallmentWins: The sequel failed to do as well as the first film, though in that particular film Mulan and Shang actually got married as well as Yao, Chien Po, and Ling.

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* FirstInstallmentWins: The sequel failed to do as well as the first film, film (it scored a zero on RT and signaled the beginning of the end for the Disney animated sequel blitz), though in that particular film Mulan and Shang actually got married as well as Yao, Chien Po, and Ling.



%%** "You missed! How could you miss?! He was three feet infront of you!"

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%%** "You missed! How could you miss?! He was three feet infront in front of you!"


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* {{Sequelitis}}: The sequel dealt with an arranged marriage idea to prevent an invasion, and then threw it out the window. Said sequel was widely panned and was one of the final straws for Disney's sequel machine; less than two years after its release, that machine was unplugged by John Lasseter.
3rd Dec '16 9:57:36 PM LBHills
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* MemeticMutation: Go into any room (or bar, or internet chatroom...) full of people who grew up with this movie (teenagers and twentysomethings at this point) and sing "Let's get down to business" (the opening lyrics from "Make a Man Out of You"). The effect is similar to that of saying "[[Film/{{Labyrinth}} You remind me of the babe]]" in a group of nerds - they will not only finish the line for you, but also sing the entire song.

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* MemeticMutation: Go into any room (or bar, or internet chatroom...) full of people who grew up with this movie (teenagers and twentysomethings at this point) and sing "Let's get down to business" (the opening lyrics from "Make a Man Out of You"). The effect is similar to that of saying "[[Film/{{Labyrinth}} You remind me of the babe]]" in a an older group of nerds - they will not only finish the line for you, but also sing the entire song.



* MisaimedMarketing: Mulan's placement in the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise already counted but it reached a new low when the DVD joined the "Royal Wedding Collection". This movie contains neither royalty (save the Emperor) nor a wedding (that's only in the sequel).

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* MisaimedMarketing: Mulan's placement in the Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise already counted but it reached a new low when the DVD joined the "Royal Wedding Collection". This movie contains neither royalty (save the Emperor) nor a wedding (that's only in the sequel).Not royalty, and not getting married to royalty.
3rd Dec '16 9:52:48 PM LBHills
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** There also strong irony in how in a movie about a Woman trying to break gender roles in the name of protecting her father, [[RatedMForManly I'll Make A Man Out of You]] ended up becoming the [[SignatureSong most popular and remembered song]] of the movie.

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** There also There's strong irony in how in the fact that a movie about a Woman woman trying to break gender roles in the name of protecting her father, [[RatedMForManly father produced a song ([[RatedMForManly I'll Make A Man Out of You]] You]]) that ended up becoming the [[SignatureSong most popular and remembered song]] of the movie.



** Shan-Yu crosses it when [[spoiler: he and his soldiers burn down the village at the Tung Shao Pass. There's an Empathy Doll Shot to indicate that even children were not spared. Plus, there's also the helmet and sword of Shang's father, indicating that he too died in the attack. The scene comes right after the "A Girl Worth Fighting For" song, making it a huge Mood Whiplash and the scene all more impactful.]]

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** Shan-Yu crosses it when [[spoiler: he and his soldiers burn down the village at the Tung Shao Pass. There's an Empathy Doll Shot to indicate that even children were not spared. Plus, there's also the helmet and sword of Shang's father, indicating that he too died in the attack. In fact, the Huns butchered ''everyone'' - no one is left to tell the tale. The scene comes right after abruptly interrupts the "A Girl Worth Fighting For" song, making giving it a huge Mood Whiplash and the scene all more impactful.GutPunch impact.]]



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The only real blow we get to see anyone connect against an opponent in combat is one comical headbutt by Ling. After the outstanding success of the DreamworksAnimation ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' franchise established that ferociously wild, if stylized, {{Wuxia}} action with innumerable connecting kicks and punches are now acceptable family entertainment, ''Mulan'' comes off as rather timid.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The only real blow we get to see anyone connect against an opponent in There's a lot of combat is one comical headbutt by Ling.in the movie, but for the most part it's kept offscreen, or consists of ranged combat at a distance that keeps casualties from being seen. After the outstanding success of the DreamworksAnimation ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' franchise established that ferociously wild, if stylized, {{Wuxia}} action with innumerable connecting kicks and punches are now acceptable family entertainment, ''Mulan'' comes off as rather timid.



** The entire avalanche sequence.

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** The entire avalanche sequence.sequence was a solid contender (especially from an animator's point of view).
21st Nov '16 6:14:39 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* AngstWhatAngst: [[spoiler:There are no psychological repercussions to Mulan killing thousands of men with the avalanche. Then again, it's a Disney film. In one of the next few scenes, they popped up from under the snow. Mushu even likens them to daisies.]]

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* AngstWhatAngst: [[spoiler:There are no psychological repercussions to Mulan killing thousands of men with the avalanche. Then again, it's a Disney film. In one of the next few scenes, they popped up from under the snow. Mushu even likens them to daisies. However, there is a great deal of angst to discovering a village that had burned to the ground.]]



* EvilIsCool: Shan-Yu and his mini boss bunch of Huns for the general {{Badass}}ery throughout the movie. Ironically, and probably on purpose, their defeats are all extremely comedic.

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* EvilIsCool: Shan-Yu and his mini boss bunch of Huns for the general {{Badass}}ery badassery throughout the movie. Ironically, and probably on purpose, their defeats are all extremely comedic.
14th Nov '16 4:41:44 PM fusilcontrafusil
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* {{Woolseyism}}: The Chinese dub calls the Huns the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiongnu Xiongnu]], which is more historically accurate as the Huns are best known for invading Europe under [[UsefulNotes/AttilaTheHun Attila]]. It is theorized that the two groups were related.
13th Nov '16 6:00:50 PM HeroGal2347
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* MisaimedFandom: Mulan has got a reputation among some fans as a YouGoGirl girliness-hating {{Tomboy}}. This same fanbase reacts with disgust at her wearing the pink dress in most of the Franchise/DisneyPrincess merchandise, claiming it undermines her character. This is ignoring the fact that Mulan's discomfort at the beginning of the movie was over not wanting to let her family down - and that she ''wanted'' to be a good wife. On a more superficial level she does actually like how she looks in the pink dress. She seems to wear pink because so many of the ''other'' princess characters are colour-coded with blue outfits (Cinderella, Belle, Jasmine and Snow White) and Sleeping Beauty likewise is shown in a pink dress for this reason.

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Mulan has got a reputation among some fans as a YouGoGirl girliness-hating {{Tomboy}}. This same fanbase reacts with disgust at her wearing the pink dress in most of the Franchise/DisneyPrincess merchandise, claiming it undermines her character. This is ignoring the fact that Mulan's discomfort at the beginning of the movie was over not wanting to let her family down - and that she ''wanted'' to be a good wife. On a more superficial level she does actually like how she looks in the pink dress. She seems to wear pink because so many of the ''other'' princess characters are colour-coded with blue outfits (Cinderella, Belle, Jasmine and Snow White) and Sleeping Beauty likewise is shown in a pink dress for this reason.



* SignatureSong: "I'll Make a Man Out of You" is by far the film's most popular song.

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"I'll Make a Man Out of You" is by far the film's most popular song.


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* StrawmanHasAPoint: While Shang not believing Mulan about the Huns having infiltrated the capital city is clearly intended to be a sign that he's just not ready to accept her contributions because of her gender, there is another possible explanation -- by lying about being male, Mulan has already proven she's capable of being dishonest. It's more reasonable to believe someone if you've never known them to lie.
3rd Nov '16 2:11:11 AM troper101
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* TheWoobie: Shang. He loses his father to Shan Yu and his army.

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* TheWoobie: Shang. He loses his father to Shan Yu and his army. Mulan also starts off as one after the disaster with the matchmaker, shown through "Reflection".
3rd Nov '16 2:06:18 AM troper101
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* FandomRivalry: With ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', of all things.
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