History YMMV / MonsterHigh

8th Oct '17 6:50:48 PM Twiddler
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** In "Frightday the 13th", when bad luck is striking everywhere, a horseshoe hanging over a door being Heath is rattled by the passing of panicking students. Heath notices it get flipped so it's pointing up, as if it's about to fall on him, but it just flips back so it's pointing down. He breathes a sigh of relief, only for a crowd to rush out of the door, running over him. According to superstition, a horseshoe on a door pointing up brings good luck, but if it's pointing down, the luck is lost.

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** In "Frightday the 13th", when bad luck is striking everywhere, a horseshoe hanging over a door being behind Heath is rattled by the passing of panicking students. Heath notices it get flipped so it's pointing up, as if it's about to fall on him, but it just flips back so it's pointing down. He breathes a sigh of relief, only for a crowd to rush out of the door, running over him. According to superstition, a horseshoe on a door pointing up brings good luck, but if it's pointing down, the luck is lost.
8th Oct '17 6:50:10 PM Twiddler
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* GeniusBonus: When Nefera summons a miniature Cthulhu in the season two finale, it's defeated by the [[CatGirl werecats]]: cats were one of the few things Lovecraft actually liked.

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* GeniusBonus: GeniusBonus:
** In "Frightday the 13th", when bad luck is striking everywhere, a horseshoe hanging over a door being Heath is rattled by the passing of panicking students. Heath notices it get flipped so it's pointing up, as if it's about to fall on him, but it just flips back so it's pointing down. He breathes a sigh of relief, only for a crowd to rush out of the door, running over him. According to superstition, a horseshoe on a door pointing up brings good luck, but if it's pointing down, the luck is lost.
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When Nefera summons a miniature Cthulhu in the season two finale, it's defeated by the [[CatGirl werecats]]: cats were one of the few things Lovecraft actually liked.
28th Sep '17 12:24:37 PM Pfff133
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** There are many racial/national headcanons for characters without explicit roots. Toralei and Gil could be Japanese due to the former's name (which is canonically confirmed to be derived from "tora", ie "tiger") and the latter's wave prints. Elle's forehead button gets interpreted as a bindi. Lagoona and Kala are theorized to be Aboriginal Australians, possibly with Melanesian influence. Due to his name, Spelldon Cauldronello is thought to be Italian.

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** There are many racial/national headcanons for characters without explicit roots. Toralei and Gil could be Japanese due to the former's name (which is canonically confirmed to be derived from "tora", ie "tiger") and the latter's wave prints. Elle's forehead button gets interpreted as a bindi. Lagoona and Kala are theorized to be Aboriginal Australians, possibly with Melanesian influence. Due to his name, Spelldon Cauldronello is thought to be Italian.


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** Iris and Cy are related, possibly siblings. They've got the same last name, both green eyes, and they are of similar appearance (unlike the towering Simon Clops).
28th Sep '17 7:28:50 AM Pfff133
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** Some interpret Elle Eedee's power button as a bindi dot on her forehead.
** Due to Kala's Aussie origins, ancient parent, and facial sculpt and markings, fans tend to see her as an Aborigine.

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** Some interpret Elle Eedee's power There are many racial/national headcanons for characters without explicit roots. Toralei and Gil could be Japanese due to the former's name (which is canonically confirmed to be derived from "tora", ie "tiger") and the latter's wave prints. Elle's forehead button gets interpreted as a bindi dot on her forehead.
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bindi. Lagoona and Kala are theorized to be Aboriginal Australians, possibly with Melanesian influence. Due to Kala's Aussie origins, ancient parent, and facial sculpt and markings, fans tend his name, Spelldon Cauldronello is thought to see her as an Aborigine. be Italian.



** In a similar vein, Jane Boolittle's facial mold and backstory all but confirm that she's from Africa.



** Venus, Wydowna, and the mansters tend to fall under this in the animated material, with Venus' only identity being "eco-freak", Wydowna getting only TV special cameo appearances, and the guys' most important role being "love interests for the ghouls".
** Jane Boolittle was meant to help promote the pet-themed merchandise line. The line didn't do well and Jane got little attention outside of this context.



** Jane Boolittle was meant to help promote the pet-themed merchandise line. The line didn't do well and Jane got little attention outside of this context.
** Venus, Wydowna, and the mansters tend to fall under this in the animated material, with Venus' only identity being "eco-freak", Wydowna getting only cameo appearances, and the guys' most important role being "love interests for the ghouls".

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** Jane Boolittle was meant Although Dayna's treatment is to help promote blame on the pet-themed merchandise line. The line reboot and she'd likely have gotten a diary and webisodes like Gooliope before had ''Shriekwrecked'' been developed into the full deal, fact is that didn't do well happen and Jane got little attention outside of this context.
** Venus, Wydowna, and the mansters tend
nothing was done to fall under this in the animated material, with Venus' only identity being "eco-freak", Wydowna getting only cameo appearances, and the guys' most important role being "love interests make up for the ghouls".gap.



** Gooliope's backstory is mysterious and interesting, but we haven't found out much. Same goes with Jane.

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** Gooliope's backstory is mysterious and interesting, but we haven't found out much. Same goes with Jane.Jane and Cupid.
27th Sep '17 8:25:39 AM Pfff133
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** Casta Fierce was introduced as something of a "sequel" to Catty Noir. She got one webisode, a booklet only containing art (which earlier happened to Catrine), and a music video using animation from the webisode. That's it.

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** Casta Fierce was introduced as something of a "sequel" to Catty Noir. She got one webisode, two webisodes, a booklet only containing art (which earlier happened to Catrine), and a music video using animation from the webisode.webisodes. That's it.



** Venus and the mansters tend to fall under this in the animated material, with Venus' only identity being "eco-freak", and the guys' most important role being "love interests for the ghouls".

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** Venus Venus, Wydowna, and the mansters tend to fall under this in the animated material, with Venus' only identity being "eco-freak", Wydowna getting only cameo appearances, and the guys' most important role being "love interests for the ghouls".



* DemotedToExtra: At launch, Ari was heavily promoted as part of the main cast, appearing alongside them in the "Meet"-webisodes, in artwork, and in the very first wave of the G2 Signature line. She had a decent role in ''Welcome to Monster High'', a so-so role in ''Electrified'', and so far she's appeared only once in ''Adventures of the Ghoul Squad'' as part of a B-plot. She's also clearly not a main choice for inclusion in the doll lines anymore.


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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: G1 didn't do so hot in the later years, but G2 dropped the ball from the start, largely owing to the diaries and other text bits being removed.
** Ari Hauntington got DemotedToExtra before she could develop. At launch, Ari was heavily promoted as part of the main cast, appearing alongside them in the "Meet"-webisodes, in artwork, and in the very first wave of the G2 Signature line. She had a decent role in ''Welcome to Monster High'', a so-so role in ''Electrified'', and so far she's appeared only once in ''Adventures of the Ghoul Squad'' as part of a B-plot. She's also clearly not a main choice for inclusion in the doll lines anymore.
** Moanica D'Kay had less promotion by numbers than Ari, but she did get better roles in the TV specials. However, she hasn't been seen since ''Electrified''.
** Raythe is a part of G2 received well even by nay-sayers. However, following a decent role in ''Welcome to Monster High'', he (along with Deuce) has been reduced to one-note comic relief whose initial interest in Clawdeen has vanished.
** Silvi Timberwolf got a B-role in ''Electrified'' and hasn't been heard from since.
** Treesa Thornwillow and her insect friends have received no fiction at all. The insects don't even have profiles.
26th Sep '17 7:14:29 AM Pfff133
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** To a lesser extent, the introduction of vampire princess Fangelica VanBat has not gone over well with fans of vampire princess Elissabat.
26th Sep '17 6:56:51 AM Pfff133
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* WTHCastingAgency: An unusual example, with the "actors" being the characters chosen for certain doll lines. Frequently, completely random characters will be included in themed lines, and often, thematically appropriate characters will be omitted from said lines.

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* WTHCastingAgency: An unusual example, with the "actors" being the characters chosen for certain doll lines. Frequently, completely random characters will be included in themed lines, and often, thematically appropriate characters will be omitted from said lines.
lines. Just some examples:
**The ''13 Wishes'' included a sound booth playset with a doll. Instead of doll being Holt Hyde, the resident DJ, it is Spectra, the resident reporter.
**The TV special "Boo York, Boo York" introduces five teen characters: Elle, Astranova, Luna, Mouscedes, and Seth. Seth has by far the most plot-relevance. He also is the only one without a doll, which could be put on him being a guy, but then he follows on the previous lines' Porter and Neighthan so that doesn't matter too much.
**''Shriekwrecked'' is a line of the characters going on a pirate adventure. Does it include boat-knowledgeable characters like Operetta and Vandala? No. Does it include aquaphobic characters like Catrine and Rochelle? Yes.



** Amanita Nightshade is on her way to being one. While some fans like her design and think she's amusing in her own right, many seem to think of her as little more than a self-centered, useless addition to the franchise with an annoying voice and a color scheme that doesn't please the eye. (To be fair, it's hard to fault someone for thinking of her as selfish.) There also seem to be fans who regard her as a disappointment altogether, whose interesting backstory and unique (if entirely self-serving) personality went to waste the second she appeared in the webisodes as little more than a ValleyGirl. Others feel that her dark and elegant design doesn't fit her shallow and petty personality.

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** Amanita Nightshade is on her way to being one.a light case. While some fans like her design and think she's amusing in her own right, many seem to think of her as little more than a self-centered, useless addition to the franchise with an annoying voice and a color scheme that doesn't please the eye. (To be fair, it's hard to fault someone for thinking of her as selfish.) There also seem to be fans who regard her as a disappointment altogether, whose interesting backstory and unique (if entirely self-serving) personality went to waste the second she appeared in the webisodes as little more than a ValleyGirl. Others feel that her dark and elegant design doesn't fit her shallow and petty personality.



* EvilIsSexy: Toralei, mainly due to her BikerBabe-esque [[HellBentForLeather leather-laden]] basic outfit. Nefera is also considered to be this by some, as are the [[EvilKnockoff Shadow Ghouls]] from ''13 Wishes''.

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* EvilIsSexy: Toralei, mainly due to her BikerBabe-esque [[HellBentForLeather leather-laden]] basic outfit. Nefera is also considered to be Nefera, Moanica, Kieran, Lilith all have their fans for this by some, exact reason, as are do the [[EvilKnockoff Shadow Ghouls]] from ''13 Wishes''.



* PeripheryDemographic: Many adults wish they had something like this out when they were young instead of {{Franchise/Barbie}} or {{Bratz}}. It's also popular with adult fans of [[CuteMonsterGirl cute monsters]] and horror fans, not just girls and women.

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* PeripheryDemographic: Many adults wish they had something like this out when they were young instead of {{Franchise/Barbie}} or {{Bratz}}. It's also popular with adult fans of [[CuteMonsterGirl cute monsters]] and horror fans, not just girls and women.fans.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** Many of the special-introduced characters fall under this, since several are never seen after their debut movies, or only make brief appearances in future media.
** Probably the biggest example is Gilda Goldstag. She was a background character popular enough to be made into a physical doll. How was she released? In a five-pack without a stand or diary, and nothing was done to develop her as a character and bring her out of the background.
** Venus and the mansters tend to fall under this in the cartoon/movies, with Venus' only identity being "eco-freak", and the guys' most important role being "love interests for the ghouls".

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** Many of the special-introduced characters fall under this, since several are never seen
TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: This became a thing after their debut movies, or only make brief appearances 2012, starting with the ''Scaris: City of Frights'' cast. Special mention goes to Catrine DeMew, although her being relatively early meant that she did get some belated attention in future media.the final years.
** Probably Many of the biggest example is special-introduced characters fall under this, since most are never or rarely seen after their debut movies.
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Gilda Goldstag. She Goldstag was a background character popular enough to be made into a physical doll. How was she released? In a five-pack without a stand or diary, and nothing was done to develop her as a character and bring her out of the background.
** Casta Fierce was introduced as something of a "sequel" to Catty Noir. She got one webisode, a booklet only containing art (which earlier happened to Catrine), and a music video using animation from the webisode. That's it.
** Jane Boolittle was meant to help promote the pet-themed merchandise line. The line didn't do well and Jane got little attention outside of this context.
** Venus and the mansters tend to fall under this in the cartoon/movies, animated material, with Venus' only identity being "eco-freak", and the guys' most important role being "love interests for the ghouls".



** With both being daughters of the Mothman, Bonita Femur and Luna Mothews would be half-sisters. This is never touched upon or acknowledged.

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** With both being marketed as daughters of the Mothman, Bonita Femur and Luna Mothews would be half-sisters. This is never touched upon or acknowledged. It's possibly been retconned as later fiction only lists Bonita's father as "a" moth.



** Isi's friendship with fellow deer-girl Gilda would have been a great way to upgrade the latter from background status in the webisodes, but despite having a doll, Gilda still hasn't had an expanded role.

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** Isi's friendship with fellow deer-girl Gilda would have been a great way to upgrade the latter from background status in the webisodes, but despite having a doll, Gilda still hasn't had never got an expanded role.



** 2016 giving a few older character second doll releases, which goes twofold. One, it's great to see them remembering and bringing back Whisp, Amanita, and Gooliope instead of wasting them, and two, it's something that most reboot-haters can't argue with and it proves that they're not throwing the old continuity and characters out the window.
** The reboot has given some molded body detailing to characters who were lacking, and fixed some technical problems with the dolls.

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** 2016 giving a few older character second doll releases, which goes twofold. One, it's great to see them remembering and bringing back Whisp, Amanita, and Gooliope instead of wasting them, and two, it's something that most reboot-haters can't argue with and it proves that they're not throwing the old continuity and characters out the window.
** The reboot has given some molded body detailing to characters who were lacking, and fixed some technical problems with lacking. Several bits of the dolls.dolls also have been made sturdier so little children don't break them as easily or lose parts.



* DemotedToExtra: At launch, Ari was heavily promoted as part of the main cast, appearing alongside them in the "Meet"-webisodes, in artwork, and in the very first wave of the G2 Signature line. She had a decent role in ''Welcome to Monster High'', a so-so role in ''Electrified'', and so far she's appeared only once in ''Adventures of the Ghoul Squad'' as part of a B-plot. She's also clearly not a main choice for inclusion in the doll lines anymore.



* LoveItOrHateIt: Among fans, the two main reactions to the reboot are neutral acceptance and despairing disappointment--nobody seems to enthusiastically prefer the overhaul. The new, softer face designs, the promotion of Draculaura to the protagonist, the completely overhauled canon, and generally lighter and sweeter designs have rubbed a lot of fans the wrong way, though some prefer (or at least agree with the reasoning) the more kid-friendly changes, and find things they still like about the brand. Others are inconsolable.
* ReplacementScrappy: Due to Monster High's reboot marketing putting Spectra and Ghoulia OutOfFocus while heavily promoting [[RememberTheNewGuy Moanica and Ari Hauntington]], some people regard the latter two as SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitutes. However, Monster High has said that none of its characters are disappearing (A ''[=WtMH=]'' teaser even confirms the appearance of Venus, Twyla, and Toralei), and besides the shared monster type, Moanica and Ari have very different roles.

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* LoveItOrHateIt: Among fans, the two main reactions to the reboot are neutral acceptance and despairing disappointment--nobody seems to disappointment--very few enthusiastically prefer the overhaul. The new, softer face designs, the promotion of Draculaura to the protagonist, the completely overhauled canon, and generally lighter and sweeter designs have rubbed a lot of fans the wrong way, though some prefer (or at least agree with the reasoning) the more kid-friendly changes, and find things they still like about the brand. Others are inconsolable.
* ReplacementScrappy: Due to Monster High's reboot marketing putting Spectra and Ghoulia OutOfFocus while heavily promoting [[RememberTheNewGuy Moanica and Ari Hauntington]], some people regard the latter two as SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitutes. However, Monster High has said It doesn't help that none of its Moanica's first name is the same as Ghoulia's older sister's from the books and Ari's last name is Spectra's preliminary last name (minus the "Von"). Despite Mattel's promise that no characters are disappearing (A ''[=WtMH=]'' teaser even confirms the appearance of Venus, Twyla, and Toralei), and besides the shared monster type, Moanica and Ari have very different roles.would be retired, that still has to be proven true.


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** Great as the new molded details are, they also allow Mattel to skip on applying paint. This is most notable in Frankie, who now has molded stitches but more often than not in the color of her skin. Cleo's bandages aren't painted either, which can lead to UncannyValley.
3rd Aug '17 2:15:45 PM WolfThunder
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* WhatMightHaveBeen: Pre-reboot, a live action movie was planned. The Monster High Youtube is currently releasing the storyboards and their scratch tracks on Youtube in [[Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000 MST3K-esque]] short clips as "The Lost Movie", indirectly confirming that it fell through. The movie centers around the long-awaited crossover with Franchise/EverAfterHigh, and there's even a scratch track for the trailer.
3rd Aug '17 11:38:30 AM WolfThunder
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Racism and bigotry is bad, and you should accept those who are different from you. Come 2015-16, there's also the message to avoid cyberbullying. Considering MH's main demographic is young girls, that anvil really needs to be dropped.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Racism and bigotry is are bad, and you should accept those who are different from you. Come 2015-16, there's also the message to avoid cyberbullying. Considering MH's main demographic is young girls, that anvil really needs to be dropped.
22nd Jul '17 10:55:35 AM 8BrickMario
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!! General
* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The franchise itself has surprised a lot of people, since a line of fashion dolls including monsters of all kinds, and having unusual body parts wasn't expected to sell so well, thereby averting the trope.
* AwesomeMusic: Gaga for Ghouls, an awesome fusion of the previous Fright Songs that sounds great but also serves as a reassurance that G1 isn't gone from the reboot- it's just changed.
* CreepyCute: Both G1 and G2 feature this in spades, though the latter trends toward the "cute" side.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Ghoulia has been largely the fan favorite since her first appearance, which still remains. Her original doll easily sold for 4x its retail when released onto ebay. Creator/{{Mattel}} took notice of this and gave her 6 dolls in total for 2011, including the SDCC exclusive, giving her nearly as different versions as Frankie, Clawdeen & Cleo, two of which are only available in multipacks that fans have no qualms about purchasing (despite that one is a repackage of 4 old dolls included with her) exclusively for her. However, in the 2016 reboot she's OutOfFocus. Clawd, Heath, and Abbey also count.
** Twyla, Casta Fierce, and Wydowna/Bonita are rather popular on Tumblr.
* FanficFuel: Several of the themed doll lines (practically all in G2) have no media tie-ins, providing plenty of material for writer fans to expand on. The Fright-Mares, too, as not every one matches up to an existing monster, providing OC fuel and fuel for story explanation for them.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Racism and bigotry is bad, and you should accept those who are different from you. Come 2015-16, there's also the message to avoid cyberbullying. Considering MH's main demographic is young girls, that anvil really needs to be dropped.
* WhatMightHaveBeen: Pre-reboot, a live action movie was planned. The Monster High Youtube is currently releasing the storyboards and their scratch tracks on Youtube in [[Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000 MST3K-esque]] short clips as "The Lost Movie", indirectly confirming that it fell through. The movie centers around the long-awaited crossover with Franchise/EverAfterHigh, and there's even a scratch track for the trailer.
* WTHCastingAgency: An unusual example, with the "actors" being the characters chosen for certain doll lines. Frequently, completely random characters will be included in themed lines, and often, thematically appropriate characters will be omitted from said lines.

!! G1 Monster High



** The franchise itself has surprised a lot of people, since a line of fashion dolls including monsters of all kinds, and having unusual body parts wasn't expected to sell so well, thereby averting the trope.
** For many existing fans, the 2016 overhaul of the line. The line has been popular mainly because the dolls were darker and weirder than other girls' toys, and many feel that softening the faces to make the monsters "less scary and more approachable" completely defeats the purpose of the line, as they now look more generic. It doesn't help that the old tagline [[note]] Be yourself. Be unique. Be a monster.[[/note]] has been replaced, seemingly highlighting the dolls' own dilution.
* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** After a large amount of fandom backlash of the TheyChangedItNowItSucks variety, the creators really stressed that Recap/WelcomeToMonsterHigh wasn't a reboot, but a prequel. They even [[{{Retcon}} retconned]] in the subtitle "The Origin Story" to the movie's name.
** 2016 giving a few older character second doll releases, which goes twofold. One, it's great to see them remembering and bringing back Whisp, Amanita, and Gooliope instead of wasting them, and two, it's something that most reboot-haters can't argue with and it proves that they're not throwing the old continuity and characters out the window.
** The reboot has given some molded body detailing to characters who were lacking, and fixed some technical problems with the dolls.
*** Abbey and Clawdeen receive some fur detailing, details which felt missing on them. Clawdeen's always been stated to have lots of hair, and people were upset at the implication that shaving her body hair was required for her to be beautiful. Abbey's fur seemed especially needed after her cousin Mari's introduction made cold-weather Abbey seem lacking in detail.
*** Cleo got some new detailing as well, with molded wrappings on her body akin to the Create-A-Monster mummy. This definitely helps her seem monstrous, as she was the most mundane character before. Her gold-streaked brown hair has also been achieved with golden blonde highlights rather than tinsel, which many people disliked for behaving in a different way to the hair and making it more difficult to style.
*** Lagoona's fins have been made more secure, with the leg fins having a stronger connection. She also has some scales molded on her limbs while she didn't before.
*** Venus finally got some molded plant detailing on her body, much like Honey's.
*** Toralei gets her black cat nose, rather than the unpainted one of before.
*** While some people are opposed to the main cast's new faces, many agree that Draculaura's bright smile and wide eyes are much better suited to her sweet and cute personality.
*** The reboot dolls' bodies have been bulked up (male and female) and are sturdier, as are their elbow and hand pegs, which makes them less prone to breaking and tones down the alarming skinniness that many have complained about.
*** On the whole, the reboot outfits are much more modest and more suitable for high school and teenagers in that age group.
** The post-reboot "I Love Fashion" dolls include four outfits instead of three and a stand.
** After the backlash over Ghoulia's conspicuous absence in the reboot, Mattel has made an announcement that she will make a big return in 2017.
** Many fans are pleased with Moanica for being a recurring villain who doesn't just change her ideologies because someone gives her a talking-to, unlike some other easily-converted antagonists.
** This is invoked with the Monster Family line, which was in response to kids wanting to know more about the cast's everyday lives and families.
** And, of course, the most important change to be made: [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Lagoona's eyebrows finally match her hair.]]



* AwesomeMusic: Gaga for Ghouls, an awesome fusion of the previous Fright Songs that sounds great but also serves as a reassurance that G1 isn't gone from the reboot- it's just changed.

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* AwesomeMusic: Gaga BaseBreaker:
** Fans are divided on the later edition of Astranova, which changed her skin from indigo to mauve
for Ghouls, an awesome fusion no discernible reason. Some prefer the original for film/artwork accuracy and resembling the night sky, and others like the softer, sweeter look of the previous Fright Songs that sounds great but also serves as a reassurance that G1 isn't gone later release.
** Isi Dawndancer, who contains design elements
from multiple Native American tribes. Is she okay because she's more inclusive to a wide Native American market and the reboot- it's just changed.deer-woman legend is told by many tribes, or is she insensitive, homogenizing tribes without much care toward their traditions?



** Fans are divided on the later edition of Astranova, which changed her skin from indigo to mauve for no discernible reason. Some prefer the original for film/artwork accuracy and resembling the night sky, and others like the softer, sweeter look of the later release.
** Isi Dawndancer, who contains design elements from multiple Native American tribes. Is she okay because she's more inclusive to a wide Native American market and the deer-woman legend is told by many tribes, or is she insensitive, homogenizing tribes without much care toward their traditions?



* CreepyCute: If it isn't the above, likely the character applies here.



* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Ghoulia has been largely the fan favorite since her first appearance, which still remains. Her original doll easily sold for 4x its retail when released onto ebay. Creator/{{Mattel}} took notice of this and gave her 6 dolls in total for 2011, including the SDCC exclusive, giving her nearly as different versions as Frankie, Clawdeen & Cleo, two of which are only available in multipacks that fans have no qualms about purchasing (despite that one is a repackage of 4 old dolls included with her) exclusively for her. However, in the 2016 reboot she's OutOfFocus. Clawd, Heath, and Abbey also count.
** Twyla, Casta Fierce, and Wydowna/Bonita are rather popular on Tumblr.



* FanficFuel: Several of the themed doll lines have no media tie-ins, providing plenty of material for writer fans to expand on. The Fright-Mares, too, as not every one matches up to an existing monster, providing OC fuel and fuel for story explanation for them.



* GeniusBonus:
** When Nefera summons a miniature Cthulhu in the season two finale, it's defeated by the [[CatGirl werecats]]: cats were one of the few things Lovecraft actually liked.
** Cleo's G2 age is 3357, which would mean she was born in 1341 B.C., a year shared with the birth of Pharaoh Tutankhamun.
* GirlShowGhetto: This has been pretty well averted, due to the horror appeal attracting fans of all ages and genders, and for having better male representation than in many other girl-targeted franchises.

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* GeniusBonus:
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GeniusBonus: When Nefera summons a miniature Cthulhu in the season two finale, it's defeated by the [[CatGirl werecats]]: cats were one of the few things Lovecraft actually liked.
** Cleo's G2 age is 3357, which would mean she was born in 1341 B.C., a year shared with the birth of Pharaoh Tutankhamun.
* GirlShowGhetto: This has been pretty well averted, due to the horror appeal attracting fans of all ages and genders, and for having better male representation than in many other girl-targeted franchises. G2 may play it straighter, depending on how you see the changes.



** For a number of fans Ari Hauntington and Draculaura in the 2016 reboot. Drac's obsession of Ari is a borderline StalkerWithACrush reminiscent of the stereotypical boyband brand of rapid fan girls. Plus, Ari's change of hairstyle towards the end of the movie feels like a GettingCrapPastTheRadar AmbiguouslyGay metaphor of sorts. Mainstream masses may not get it but the minority underground sure understand the symbolism of the change.
* LoveItOrHateIt:
** Clawdia's face mold. Some people like the personality of her toothy grin, and others are creeped out.
** The 2016 reboot of the franchise (complete with new doll faces, different animation styles for both the movies and webisodes, and Draculaura's promotion to the main character of the franchise) has already begun to cause this among fans. Many feel the new style goes against the heart of the franchise and its message to embrace one's 'freaky flaws' by making the dolls less 'dark and edgy' and more generically cute. There's even an online petition to get Mattel to restore the original doll faces. Others welcome the change to the franchise, or at least accept Mattel's reasons for rebooting it, and point out how they've been gradually softening the franchise since its beginning.

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** For a number of fans Ari Hauntington and Draculaura in the 2016 reboot. Drac's obsession of Ari is a borderline StalkerWithACrush reminiscent of the stereotypical boyband brand of rapid fan girls. Plus, Ari's change of hairstyle towards the end of the movie feels like a GettingCrapPastTheRadar AmbiguouslyGay metaphor of sorts. Mainstream masses may not get it but the minority underground sure understand the symbolism of the change.
* LoveItOrHateIt:
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LoveItOrHateIt: Clawdia's face mold. Some people like the personality of her toothy grin, and others are creeped out. \n** The 2016 reboot of the franchise (complete with new doll faces, different animation styles for both the movies and webisodes, and Draculaura's promotion to the main character of the franchise) has already begun to cause this among fans. Many feel the new style goes against the heart of the franchise and its message to embrace one's 'freaky flaws' by making the dolls less 'dark and edgy' and more generically cute. There's even an online petition to get Mattel to restore the original doll faces. Others welcome the change to the franchise, or at least accept Mattel's reasons for rebooting it, and point out how they've been gradually softening the franchise since its beginning.



* ReplacementScrappy: Due to Monster High's reboot marketing putting Spectra and Ghoulia OutOfFocus while heavily promoting [[RememberTheNewGuy Moanica and Ari Hauntington]], some people regard the latter two as SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitutes. However, Monster High has said that none of its characters are disappearing (A ''[=WtMH=]'' teaser even confirms the appearance of Venus, Twyla, and Toralei), and besides the shared monster type, Moanica and Ari have very different roles.



* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Racism and bigotry is bad, and you should accept those who are different from you. Come 2015-16, there's also the message to avoid cyberbullying. Considering MH's main demographic is young girls, that anvil really needs to be dropped.



* TearJerker: Gooliope's diary includes the note her creator left with her when he sent her to the circus. On it is a big pink spot. It may seem like a result of her gooey fingers, but considering the note, ''that's a tear''.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** In 2016, Mattel rebooted Monster High to be LighterAndSofter. Due to Mattel's poor track record with this sort of thing, which even caused some franchises to [[{{Cancellation}} get the hammer]], some fans are foretelling the doom of the franchise and lambasting the new looks.
** Another problem with the reboot is the extreme cost-cutting measures, such as the lack of stands, an inclusion that was widely appreciated before, and the absence of diaries to provide more backstory. In some cases articulation has even been reduced. The worst part? The dolls still cost the same as they did when they came out- actually perhaps a bit more in some cases.
** Venus in G2, as her joints are incorrectly molded so the limbs don't fit together properly, and also because she has nonremovable parts for dressing.

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* TearJerker: Gooliope's diary includes the note her creator left with her when he sent her to the circus. On it is a big pink spot. It may seem like a result of her gooey fingers, but considering the note, ''that's a tear''.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** In 2016, Mattel rebooted Monster High to be LighterAndSofter. Due to Mattel's poor track record with this sort of thing, which even caused some franchises to [[{{Cancellation}} get the hammer]], some fans are foretelling the doom of the franchise and lambasting the new looks.
** Another problem with the reboot is the extreme cost-cutting measures, such as the lack of stands, an inclusion that was widely appreciated before, and the absence of diaries to provide more backstory. In some cases articulation has even been reduced. The worst part? The dolls still cost the same as they did when they came out- actually perhaps a bit more in some cases.
** Venus in G2, as her joints are incorrectly molded so the limbs don't fit together properly, and also because she has nonremovable parts for dressing.
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** Thanks to the reboot the hinted crossover between Monster High and Franchise/EverAfterHigh was canceled.

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** Thanks to the reboot reboot, the hinted crossover between Monster High and Franchise/EverAfterHigh was canceled.



** The stop-motion webisodes, due to the attempts at facial animation, but the limited extent to which they could do so.
** The G2 webisode animation may come across as this for those used to the G1 animation; some may even consider it OffModel.



* WhatMightHaveBeen: Pre-reboot, a live action movie was planned. The Monster High Youtube is currently releasing the storyboards and their scratch tracks on Youtube in [[Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000 MST3K-esque]] short clips as "The Lost Movie", indirectly confirming that it fell through. The movie centers around the long-awaited crossover with Franchise/EverAfterHigh, and there's even a scratch track for the trailer.



* WTHCastingAgency: An unusual example, with the "actors" being the characters chosen for certain doll lines. Frequently, completely random characters will be included in themed lines, and often, thematically appropriate characters will be omitted from said lines.

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!! G2 Monster High
* WTHCastingAgency: An unusual example, AudienceAlienatingPremise: For many existing fans, the 2016 overhaul of the line. The line has been popular mainly because the dolls were darker and weirder than other girls' toys, and many feel that softening the faces to make the monsters "less scary and more approachable" completely defeats the purpose of the line, as they now look more generic. It doesn't help that the old tagline [[note]] Be yourself. Be unique. Be a monster.[[/note]] has been replaced, seemingly highlighting the dolls' own dilution.
* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** After a large amount of fandom backlash of the TheyChangedItNowItSucks variety, the creators really stressed that Recap/WelcomeToMonsterHigh wasn't a reboot, but a prequel. They even [[{{Retcon}} retconned]] in the subtitle "The Origin Story" to the movie's name.
** 2016 giving a few older character second doll releases, which goes twofold. One, it's great to see them remembering and bringing back Whisp, Amanita, and Gooliope instead of wasting them, and two, it's something that most reboot-haters can't argue with and it proves that they're not throwing the old continuity and characters out the window.
** The reboot has given some molded body detailing to characters who were lacking, and fixed some technical problems
with the "actors" dolls.
*** Abbey and Clawdeen receive some fur detailing, details which felt missing on them. Clawdeen's always been stated to have lots of hair, and people were upset at the implication that shaving her body hair was required for her to be beautiful. Abbey's fur seemed especially needed after her cousin Mari's introduction made cold-weather Abbey seem lacking in detail.
*** Cleo got some new detailing as well, with molded wrappings on her body akin to the Create-A-Monster mummy. This definitely helps her seem monstrous, as she was the most mundane character before. Her gold-streaked brown hair has also been achieved with golden blonde highlights rather than tinsel, which many people disliked for behaving in a different way to the hair and making it more difficult to style.
*** Lagoona's fins have been made more secure, with the leg fins having a stronger connection. She also has some scales molded on her limbs while she didn't before.
*** Venus finally got some molded plant detailing on her body, much like Honey's.
*** Toralei gets her black cat nose, rather than the unpainted one of before.
*** While some people are opposed to the main cast's new faces, many agree that Draculaura's bright smile and wide eyes are much better suited to her sweet and cute personality.
*** The reboot dolls' bodies have been bulked up (male and female) and are sturdier, as are their elbow and hand pegs, which makes them less prone to breaking and tones down the alarming skinniness that many have complained about.
*** On the whole, the reboot outfits are much more modest and more suitable for high school and teenagers in that age group.
** The post-reboot "I Love Fashion" dolls include four outfits instead of three and a stand.
** After the backlash over Ghoulia's conspicuous absence in the reboot, Mattel has made an announcement that she will make a big return in 2017.
** Many fans are pleased with Moanica for
being a recurring villain who doesn't just change her ideologies because someone gives her a talking-to, unlike some other easily-converted antagonists.
** This is invoked with the Monster Family line, which was in response to kids wanting to know more about the cast's everyday lives and families.
** And, of course, the most important change to be made: [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Lagoona's eyebrows finally match her hair.]]
* GeniusBonus: Cleo's G2 age is 3357, which would mean she was born in 1341 B.C., a year shared with the birth of Pharaoh Tutankhamun.
* HoYay: For a number of fans Ari Hauntington and Draculaura in the 2016 reboot. Drac's obsession of Ari is a borderline StalkerWithACrush reminiscent of the stereotypical boyband brand of rapid fan girls. Plus, Ari's change of hairstyle towards the end of the movie feels like a GettingCrapPastTheRadar AmbiguouslyGay metaphor of sorts. Mainstream masses may not get it but the minority underground sure understand the symbolism of the change.
* LoveItOrHateIt: Among fans, the two main reactions to the reboot are neutral acceptance and despairing disappointment--nobody seems to enthusiastically prefer the overhaul. The new, softer face designs, the promotion of Draculaura to the protagonist, the completely overhauled canon, and generally lighter and sweeter designs have rubbed a lot of fans the wrong way, though some prefer (or at least agree with the reasoning) the more kid-friendly changes, and find things they still like about the brand. Others are inconsolable.
* ReplacementScrappy: Due to Monster High's reboot marketing putting Spectra and Ghoulia OutOfFocus while heavily promoting [[RememberTheNewGuy Moanica and Ari Hauntington]], some people regard the latter two as SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitutes. However, Monster High has said that none of its characters are disappearing (A ''[=WtMH=]'' teaser even confirms the appearance of Venus, Twyla, and Toralei), and besides the shared monster type, Moanica and Ari have very different roles.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Frankie to some, as she now has a more defined personality, but others resent that she rips traits from Ghoulia, leaving her character, if they choose to use it, unclear.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** In 2016, Mattel rebooted Monster High to be LighterAndSofter. Due to Mattel's poor track record with this sort of thing, which even caused some franchises to [[{{Cancellation}} get the hammer]], some fans are foretelling the doom of the franchise and lambasting the new looks.
** Another problem with the reboot is the extreme cost-cutting measures, such as the lack of stands, an inclusion that was widely appreciated before, and the absence of diaries to provide more backstory. In some cases articulation has even been reduced. The worst part? The dolls still cost the same as they did when they came out- actually perhaps a bit more in some cases.
** The shift toward unremovable joints is frustrating enough for fans because it limits the clothes that dolls can wear (everything needs to have sleeves large enough for the hands to go through), but the fact that the new joint system created gappy and obvious joints on the relatively seamless dolls of before just adds insult to injury.
** Some think the addition of previously-unseen siblings to
the characters chosen is lazy and outright jarring for certain doll lines. Frequently, completely random the characters will be included in themed lines, who have no backstory that allows for the sudden appearance of one, i.e., Lagoona has lots of siblings and often, thematically appropriate characters will be omitted from said lines.so does Clawdeen, and Frankie's sister was clearly built at a presumably recent time, but Draculaura and Cleo? No reason.
** The greatly reduced presence of a canon to the line, making it obvious that it's just about the toys now. Granted, the webisodes were getting less meaningful by the end of G1, but now there's no real exploration of story beyond the yearly movies.
* UncannyValley:
** The stop-motion webisodes, due to the attempts at facial animation, but the limited extent to which they could do so.
** The G2 webisode animation may come across as this for those used to the G1 animation; some may even consider it OffModel.
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