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* AccidentalAesop: "Donald's Gift": If someone needs time to themselves after a tough day, leave them be or they might do something they'll regret.
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* AccidentalAesop: "Donald's Gift": If someone needs time to themselves after a tough day, don't be pushy and leave them be or they might do something they'll regret.
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** In "Donald's Gift", everyone treats Donald like he's a horrible person for not wanting to go Christmas shopping and snapping after hearing "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" literally everywhere he goes, but all he wanted was to enjoy a nice cup of cocoa in peace, but Daisy and the nephews forced him to go Christmas shopping against his will and nobody would stop getting on his case about Christmas (one person even yanked him for a donation). Is a small break from the holiday havoc too much to ask for? The short tries to justify Daisy's attitude by having her say that Christmas is the time to be with family and friends, but she doesn't even consider postponing the trip to stay home with Donald. Even if they ''had'' to go shopping on that specific day, couldn't they have let Donald stay at home and spent time with him afterwards?
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** In "Donald's Gift", everyone treats Donald like he's a horrible person for not wanting to go Christmas shopping and snapping after hearing "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" literally everywhere he goes, but all goes. All he wanted was to enjoy a nice cup of cocoa in peace, but Daisy and the nephews forced him to go Christmas shopping against his will and nobody would just stop getting on his case bothering him about Christmas (one person even yanked him for a donation). Is a small break from the holiday havoc too much to ask for? The short tries to justify Daisy's attitude by having her say that Christmas is the time to be with family and friends, but she doesn't even consider postponing the trip to stay home with Donald. Even if they ''had'' to go shopping on that specific day, couldn't they have let Donald stay at home and spent time with him afterwards?
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* {{Sequelitis}}: Despite allegedly being a sequel to the first movie, it uses ugly computer animation instead of hand-drawn animation and has no continuity to the first film whatsoever. There are more stories, but the writing is weaker -- for instance, it makes Max and Donald out to be in the wrong for wanting their wishes to be respected.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: Despite allegedly being a sequel to the first movie, it uses ugly computer animation instead of hand-drawn animation and has no continuity to the first film whatsoever. There are more stories, but the writing is weaker -- for instance, it makes Max and Donald out to be in the wrong for wanting their wishes to be respected.
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** In "Donald's Gift", Donald suffers through a stressful day of Christmas-related annoyances. When he gets home and tries to relax with a cup of hot chocolate, Daisy barges into his house uninvited and drags him to the mall against his will. Once there, he's bombarded with sound effects that seem to play "We Wish You a Merry Christmas", which stresses him out to the point where he finally snaps and destroys a Christmas exhibition. This causes Daisy and his nephews to ditch him, and a security guard chews him out for having no Christmas spirit. He's supposed to be a grumpy, unlikable Christmas hater, but it's easy to feel sorry for him when many of his Christmas-related grievances are in fact legitimate, and no one ever seems to care about how he feels. It helps his case that "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" is considered an annoying song in real life.
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** In "Donald's Gift", Donald suffers through a stressful day of Christmas-related annoyances. When he gets home and tries to relax with a cup of hot chocolate, Daisy barges into his house uninvited and drags him to the mall against his will. Same with Huey, Dewey and Louie. Once there, he's bombarded with sound effects that seem to play "We Wish You a Merry Christmas", Christmas" everywhere, which stresses him out to the point where he finally snaps and destroys a Christmas exhibition. This causes Daisy and his nephews to ditch him, and a security guard chews him out for having no Christmas spirit. He's supposed to be a grumpy, unlikable Christmas hater, but it's easy to feel sorry for him when many of his Christmas-related grievances are in fact legitimate, and no one ever seems to care about how he feels. It helps his case that "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" is considered an annoying song in real life.
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** Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". He's hurt by Max's rejection, but it may be hard to feel sorry for him because it doesn't look like he even ''tries'' to avoid embarrassing Max in front of his girlfriend.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** From "Christmas: Impossible": Huey, Dewey and Louie have successfully stolen the key they need to access Santa's List.\\
'''You'd expect''': The nephews to run straight across the workshop to the other side.\\
'''Instead''': They take various detours and mess with the toy making machines, thus resulting in the key to get lost in a pile of Jailbreak Bob keys.\\
'''Then''': The boys lie and say they really need the key that doesn't fit a Jailbreak Bob toy because they lost the toilet keys. The elves help out and promise to give them the key that doesn't fit. Then an elf finds a key that doesn't fit, announces it and asks what she should do with it.\\
'''You'd expect''': Huey, Dewey and Louie to quickly say it's theirs, and get it back.\\
'''Instead''': Silence from HD&L. Some other elf tells her to just throw it away. The nephews try to stop her, but she doesn't listen. Then...\\
'''You'd expect''': She looks where she throws it, or even keeps it somewhere in case it's important.\\
'''Instead''': She throws it ''in a random direction'', and it lands in a gift.\\
'''You'd then expect''': HD&L to pay close attention to the gift with the key to maximize their chances of finding it while minimizing the damage.\\
'''Instead''': They open -- and ruin -- practically every gift they can find!\\
'''Result''': Christmas is ruined. To really rub it in, the idiot who threw the key doesn't get any comeuppance and all the blame is put on HD&L.
** From "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas": The impatient Pluto really wants to put the star on the tree. However, Mickey needs him to wait and be careful. Pluto has just found the star, but Mickey stops him in time and gets it back. Then, the phone rings.\\
'''You'd expect''': Mickey would bring the star with him when he answers the phone. Or put it somewhere that Pluto can't access.\\
'''Instead''': Mickey leaves the star on the ladder right in front of Pluto. This predictably leads to Pluto trying to put it on the tree, which ruins Mickey's Christmas decorations, which in turn causes Pluto to get scolded and later run away.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** From "Christmas: Impossible": Huey, Dewey and Louie have successfully stolen the key they need to access Santa's List.\\
'''You'd expect''': The nephews to run straight across the workshop to the other side.\\
'''Instead''': They take various detours and mess with the toy making machines, thus resulting in the key to get lost in a pile of Jailbreak Bob keys.\\
'''Then''': The boys lie and say they really need the key that doesn't fit a Jailbreak Bob toy because they lost the toilet keys. The elves help out and promise to give them the key that doesn't fit. Then an elf finds a key that doesn't fit, announces it and asks what she should do with it.\\
'''You'd expect''': Huey, Dewey and Louie to quickly say it's theirs, and get it back.\\
'''Instead''': Silence from HD&L. Some other elf tells her to just throw it away. The nephews try to stop her, but she doesn't listen. Then...\\
'''You'd expect''': She looks where she throws it, or even keeps it somewhere in case it's important.\\
'''Instead''': She throws it ''in a random direction'', and it lands in a gift.\\
'''You'd then expect''': HD&L to pay close attention to the gift with the key to maximize their chances of finding it while minimizing the damage.\\
'''Instead''': They open -- and ruin -- practically every gift they can find!\\
'''Result''': Christmas is ruined. To really rub it in, the idiot who threw the key doesn't get any comeuppance and all the blame is put on HD&L.
** From "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas": The impatient Pluto really wants to put the star on the tree. However, Mickey needs him to wait and be careful. Pluto has just found the star, but Mickey stops him in time and gets it back. Then, the phone rings.\\
'''You'd expect''': Mickey would bring the star with him when he answers the phone. Or put it somewhere that Pluto can't access.\\
'''Instead''': Mickey leaves the star on the ladder right in front of Pluto. This predictably leads to Pluto trying to put it on the tree, which ruins Mickey's Christmas decorations, which in turn causes Pluto to get scolded and later run away.
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** Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". He's hurt by Max's rejection, but it may be hard to feel sorry for him because it doesn't look like he even ''tries'' to avoid embarrassing Max in front of his girlfriend.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** From "Christmas: Impossible": Huey, Dewey and Louie have successfully stolen the key they need to access Santa's List.\\
'''You'd expect''': The nephews to run straight across the workshop to the other side.\\
'''Instead''': They take various detours and mess with the toy making machines, thus resulting in the key to get lost in a pile of Jailbreak Bob keys.\\
'''Then''': The boys lie and say they really need the key that doesn't fit a Jailbreak Bob toy because they lost the toilet keys. The elves help out and promise to give them the key that doesn't fit. Then an elf finds a key that doesn't fit, announces it and asks what she should do with it.\\
'''You'd expect''': Huey, Dewey and Louie to quickly say it's theirs, and get it back.\\
'''Instead''': Silence from HD&L. Some other elf tells her to just throw it away. The nephews try to stop her, but she doesn't listen. Then...\\
'''You'd expect''': She looks where she throws it, or even keeps it somewhere in case it's important.\\
'''Instead''': She throws it ''in a random direction'', and it lands in a gift.\\
'''You'd then expect''': HD&L to pay close attention to the gift with the key to maximize their chances of finding it while minimizing the damage.\\
'''Instead''': They open -- and ruin -- practically every gift they can find!\\
'''Result''': Christmas is ruined. To really rub it in, the idiot who threw the key doesn't get any comeuppance and all the blame is put on HD&L.
** From "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas": The impatient Pluto really wants to put the star on the tree. However, Mickey needs him to wait and be careful. Pluto has just found the star, but Mickey stops him in time and gets it back. Then, the phone rings.\\
'''You'd expect''': Mickey would bring the star with him when he answers the phone. Or put it somewhere that Pluto can't access.\\
'''Instead''': Mickey leaves the star on the ladder right in front of Pluto. This predictably leads to Pluto trying to put it on the tree, which ruins Mickey's Christmas decorations, which in turn causes Pluto to get scolded and later run away.girlfriend.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** From "Christmas: Impossible": Huey, Dewey and Louie have successfully stolen the key they need to access Santa's List.\\
'''You'd expect''': The nephews to run straight across the workshop to the other side.\\
'''Instead''': They take various detours and mess with the toy making machines, thus resulting in the key to get lost in a pile of Jailbreak Bob keys.\\
'''Then''': The boys lie and say they really need the key that doesn't fit a Jailbreak Bob toy because they lost the toilet keys. The elves help out and promise to give them the key that doesn't fit. Then an elf finds a key that doesn't fit, announces it and asks what she should do with it.\\
'''You'd expect''': Huey, Dewey and Louie to quickly say it's theirs, and get it back.\\
'''Instead''': Silence from HD&L. Some other elf tells her to just throw it away. The nephews try to stop her, but she doesn't listen. Then...\\
'''You'd expect''': She looks where she throws it, or even keeps it somewhere in case it's important.\\
'''Instead''': She throws it ''in a random direction'', and it lands in a gift.\\
'''You'd then expect''': HD&L to pay close attention to the gift with the key to maximize their chances of finding it while minimizing the damage.\\
'''Instead''': They open -- and ruin -- practically every gift they can find!\\
'''Result''': Christmas is ruined. To really rub it in, the idiot who threw the key doesn't get any comeuppance and all the blame is put on HD&L.
** From "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas": The impatient Pluto really wants to put the star on the tree. However, Mickey needs him to wait and be careful. Pluto has just found the star, but Mickey stops him in time and gets it back. Then, the phone rings.\\
'''You'd expect''': Mickey would bring the star with him when he answers the phone. Or put it somewhere that Pluto can't access.\\
'''Instead''': Mickey leaves the star on the ladder right in front of Pluto. This predictably leads to Pluto trying to put it on the tree, which ruins Mickey's Christmas decorations, which in turn causes Pluto to get scolded and later run away.
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i dont remember the thrower being the one who blamed the triplets, last i checked it was a different elf that blamed them.
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'''Result''': Christmas is ruined. To really rub it in, the idiot who threw the key puts all the blame on HD&L.
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'''Result''': Christmas is ruined. To really rub it in, the idiot who threw the key puts doesn't get any comeuppance and all the blame is put on HD&L.
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** From "Christmas: Impossible": Huey, Dewey and Louie have successfully stolen the key they need to access Santa's List. However, an accident causes the key to get lost in a pile of Jailbreak Bob keys. The boys lie and say they really need the key that doesn't fit a Jailbreak Bob toy because they lost the toilet keys. Then an elf finds a key that doesn't fit, announces it and asks what she should do with it.\\
'''You'd expect''': Huey, Dewey and Louie to quickly say it's theirs, and get it back. \\
'''Instead''': Silence from HD&L. Some other elf tells her to just throw it away. Then...\\
'''You'd expect''': Huey, Dewey and Louie to quickly say it's theirs, and get it back. \\
'''Instead''': Silence from HD&L. Some other elf tells her to just throw it away. Then...\\
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** From "Christmas: Impossible": Huey, Dewey and Louie have successfully stolen the key they need to access Santa's List. However, an accident causes \\
'''You'd expect''': The nephews to run straight across the workshop to the other side.\\
'''Instead''': They take various detours and mess with the toy making machines, thus resulting in the key to get lost in a pile of Jailbreak Bobkeys. keys.\\
'''Then''': The boys lie and say they really need the key that doesn't fit a Jailbreak Bob toy because they lost the toiletkeys.keys. The elves help out and promise to give them the key that doesn't fit. Then an elf finds a key that doesn't fit, announces it and asks what she should do with it.\\
'''You'd expect''': Huey, Dewey and Louie to quickly say it's theirs, and get it back. \\
'''Instead''': Silence from HD&L. Some other elf tells her to just throw it away. The nephews try to stop her, but she doesn't listen. Then...\\
'''You'd expect''': The nephews to run straight across the workshop to the other side.\\
'''Instead''': They take various detours and mess with the toy making machines, thus resulting in the key to get lost in a pile of Jailbreak Bob
'''Then''': The boys lie and say they really need the key that doesn't fit a Jailbreak Bob toy because they lost the toilet
'''You'd expect''': Huey, Dewey and Louie to quickly say it's theirs, and get it back.
'''Instead''': Silence from HD&L. Some other elf tells her to just throw it away. The nephews try to stop her, but she doesn't listen. Then...\\
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* UncannyValley: While the CGI animation isn't awful for its time of production, it hasn't aged particularly well. Some of the models look a bit grotesque, rubbery and stiff, particularly the non-regular cast.
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* UncannyValley: While the CGI animation isn't awful for its time of production, it hasn't aged particularly well. Some of the models look a bit grotesque, rubbery and stiff, particularly the non-regular cast. It doesn't help that [[WesternAnimation/MickeyMouseClubhouse the next attempt]] at bringing Mickey and his pals into the third dimension became a vast improvement over this animation.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: ** While Goofy is initially portrayed at first glance as his usual good-natured [[TheKlutz klutzy]] BumblingDad self, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max’s relationship to turn out bad.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** While Goofy is initially portrayed at first glance as his usual good-natured [[TheKlutz klutzy]] BumblingDad self, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max’s relationship to turn out bad.
** While Goofy is initially portrayed at first glance as his usual good-natured [[TheKlutz klutzy]] BumblingDad self, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max’s relationship to turn out bad.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Goofy in "Christmas Maximus".
** While he's portrayed at first glance as his usual good-natured [[TheKlutz klutz]] and BumblingDad self, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max’s relationship to turn out bad.
** While he's portrayed at first glance as his usual good-natured [[TheKlutz klutz]] and BumblingDad self, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max’s relationship to turn out bad.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Goofy in "Christmas Maximus".
** While he's Goofy is initially portrayed at first glance as his usual good-natured [[TheKlutz klutz]] and klutzy]] BumblingDad self, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max’s relationship to turn out bad.
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** Did Pluto really run away because he thought Mickey didn’t want him around anymore? Or did he run away because he felt genuinely bad about what he did and thought Mickey would be better off without him? His SelfServingMemory of being told off by Mickey likely indicates [[TakeAThirdOption both]].
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** Did Pluto really run away because he thought Mickey didn’t want him around anymore? Or did he run away because he felt genuinely bad about what he did and thought Mickey would be better off without him? His SelfServingMemory of being told off by Mickey likely indicates [[TakeAThirdOption both]].
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** From "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas": The impatient Pluto really wants to put the star on the tree. However, Mickey needs him to wait and be careful. Pluto has just found the star, but Mickey stops him in time and gets the star back. The phone rings.\\
'''You'd expect''': Mickey would bring the star with him when he answers the phone. Or store it somewhere that Pluto can't access.\\
'''You'd expect''': Mickey would bring the star with him when he answers the phone. Or store it somewhere that Pluto can't access.\\
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** From "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas": The impatient Pluto really wants to put the star on the tree. However, Mickey needs him to wait and be careful. Pluto has just found the star, but Mickey stops him in time and gets the star it back. The Then, the phone rings.\\
'''You'd expect''': Mickey would bring the star with him when he answers the phone. Orstore put it somewhere that Pluto can't access.\\
'''You'd expect''': Mickey would bring the star with him when he answers the phone. Or
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** Did Pluto really run away because he thought Mickey didn’t want him around anymore? Or did he run away because he felt genuinely bad about what he did and thought Mickey would be better off without him?
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** Did Pluto really run away because he thought Mickey didn’t want him around anymore? Or did he run away because he felt genuinely bad about what he did and thought Mickey would be better off without him? His SelfServingMemory of being told off by Mickey likely indicates [[TakeAThirdOption both]].
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** Did Pluto really run away because he thought Mickey didn’t want him around anymore? Or did he run away because he felt genuinely bad about what he did and thought Mickey would be better off without him?
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". While he's portrayed at first glance as your average good-natured [[TheKlutz klutz]] and BumblingDad, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max to forget about him.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Goofy in "Christmas Maximus".
** While he's portrayed at first glance asyour average his usual good-natured [[TheKlutz klutz]] and BumblingDad, BumblingDad self, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max Max’s relationship to forget about him.turn out bad.
** While he's portrayed at first glance as
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Share This Day" by Josh Kelly. Even detractors of the film enjoy it.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Three of the shorts feature characters who are supposed to be jerks at first learning AnAesop, but their pre-CharacterDevelopment behavior ends up being too understandable:
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Three Two of the shorts feature characters who are supposed to be jerks at first learning AnAesop, but their pre-CharacterDevelopment behavior ends up being too understandable:
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". While he's portrayed at first glance as your average good-natured [[TheKlutz klutz]] and BumblingDad, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max to forget about him.
** Pluto being TheRunaway in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas". Did he run away out of spite for Mickey yelling at him for ruining the Christmas decorations [[NeverMyFault after trying to put the star on the tree when he was told not to]], or was he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone truly so ashamed that he thought Mickey would be better off without him]]? His crying over how much he misses Mickey does indicate the latter.
** Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". While he's portrayed at first glance as your average good-natured [[TheKlutz klutz]] and BumblingDad, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max to forget about him.
** Pluto being TheRunaway in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas". Did he run away out of spite for Mickey yelling at him for ruining the Christmas decorations [[NeverMyFault after trying to put the star on the tree when he was told not to]], or was he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone truly so ashamed that he thought Mickey would be better off without him]]? His crying over how much he misses Mickey does indicate the latter.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
**AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". While he's portrayed at first glance as your average good-natured [[TheKlutz klutz]] and BumblingDad, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max to forget about him. \n** Pluto being TheRunaway in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas". Did he run away out of spite for Mickey yelling at him for ruining the Christmas decorations [[NeverMyFault after trying to put the star on the tree when he was told not to]], or was he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone truly so ashamed that he thought Mickey would be better off without him]]? His crying over how much he misses Mickey does indicate the latter.
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** "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" portrays Mickey as the bad guy for snapping at Pluto and punishing him for wrecking the decorations, but the thing is, Mickey told Pluto to wait for him to put the star on the tree and had worked really hard on the decorations, so it's understandable why Mickey would be upset with him. Yet, we're supposed to feel bad for Pluto after he disobeyed Mickey?
* JerkassWoobie:
** While Donald was being a bit antisocial in "Donald's Gift", it is still easy to feel bad for him as Daisy and others won't let him have some relaxation and disown him when he understandably snaps.
** Mickey, of all people becomes in this in "Mickey's Doggone Christmas". While he was rather harsh to Pluto, he did work hard on the decorations and anyone in his situation would feel horrible if their pet ran away on Christmas Eve.
* JerkassWoobie:
** While Donald was being a bit antisocial in "Donald's Gift", it is still easy to feel bad for him as Daisy and others won't let him have some relaxation and disown him when he understandably snaps.
** Mickey, of all people becomes in this in "Mickey's Doggone Christmas". While he was rather harsh to Pluto, he did work hard on the decorations and anyone in his situation would feel horrible if their pet ran away on Christmas Eve.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint:
** Donald is meant to be portrayed as stuck-up when Daisy encourages him to go to the mall, but he had every right to tell her to give him some space since he had a rough day. Not that Daisy ever listens to him, of course.
** Mickey is supposed to seen as unfair to Pluto by berating him, but his anger towards Pluto is warranted because the latter had intentionally disobeyed him out of impatience, which ruined all his hard work in the process. Being told to stay in the dog house until he gets back from shopping sounds like a pretty reasonable punishment.
** Donald is meant to be portrayed as stuck-up when Daisy encourages him to go to the mall, but he had every right to tell her to give him some space since he had a rough day. Not that Daisy ever listens to him, of course.
** Mickey is supposed to seen as unfair to Pluto by berating him, but his anger towards Pluto is warranted because the latter had intentionally disobeyed him out of impatience, which ruined all his hard work in the process. Being told to stay in the dog house until he gets back from shopping sounds like a pretty reasonable punishment.
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** "Mickey's Doggone Christmas" is supposed to make us hate Mickey for scolding Pluto, but if Pluto had just listened to Mickey, he wouldn't have gotten scolded in the first place.
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** Pluto in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" is made to be the victim when he gets scolded and punished for accidentally destroying the Christmas decorations that Mickey clearly worked hard on. The problem is that the accident only happened because Pluto tried to put the star on the tree on his own despite Mickey telling him to wait for him, which is a reasonable order that shouldn't be that hard to obey. It doesn't help that the scolding wasn't even that long or harsh, and the worst things Mickey "said" only happened in [[SelfServingMemory Pluto's imagination]].
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'''Instead''': They open - and ruin - practically every gift they can find!\\
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'''Instead''': They open - -- and ruin - -- practically every gift they can find!\\
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** "Mickey's Doggone Christmas" is supposed to make us hate Mickey for scolding Pluto, but if Pluto had just listened to Mickey, he wouldn't have gotten scolded in the first place. The story is trying to make Mickey a JerkassWoobie, but it makes him more of a DesignatedVillain than anything else.
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** "Mickey's Doggone Christmas" is supposed to make us hate Mickey for scolding Pluto, but if Pluto had just listened to Mickey, he wouldn't have gotten scolded in the first place. The story is trying to make Mickey a JerkassWoobie, but it makes him more of a DesignatedVillain than anything else.
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* AccidentalAesop: "Donald's Gift": If someone needs time to themselves after a tough day, leave them be or they might do something they'll regret.
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** Pluto being TheRunaway in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas". Did he run away out of spite for Mickey yelling at him for ruining the Christmas decorations [[NeverMyFault after trying to put the star on the tree when he was told not to]], or was he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone truly so ashamed that he thought Mickey would be better off without him]]? His crying over how much he misses Mickey clearly indicates the latter.
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** Pluto being TheRunaway in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas". Did he run away out of spite for Mickey yelling at him for ruining the Christmas decorations [[NeverMyFault after trying to put the star on the tree when he was told not to]], or was he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone truly so ashamed that he thought Mickey would be better off without him]]? His crying over how much he misses Mickey clearly indicates does indicate the latter.latter.
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** "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" portrays Mickey as the bad guy for snapping at Pluto and punishing him for wrecking the decorations, but the thing is, Mickey told Pluto to wait for him to put the star on the tree and had worked really hard on the decorations, so it's understandable why Mickey would be upset with him. Yet, we’re supposed to feel bad for Pluto after he disobeyed Mickey?
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** "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" portrays Mickey as the bad guy for snapping at Pluto and punishing him for wrecking the decorations, but the thing is, Mickey told Pluto to wait for him to put the star on the tree and had worked really hard on the decorations, so it's understandable why Mickey would be upset with him. Yet, we’re we're supposed to feel bad for Pluto after he disobeyed Mickey?
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I'm re-adding these because they are necessary.
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* InformedWrongness:
** "Christmas Maximus" portrays Max as selfish for wanting Goofy to make a good impression on Mona instead of letting Goofy act as goofy as he normally does. It's not like Max suddenly demands that Goofy act super dignified or anything -- he just wants less potentially embarrassing behaviour. Apparently, that is selfish, but Goofy's not wanting to change his behaviour a little for his son's sake is not. While Mona does end up finding Goofy's antics charming instead of off-putting, neither he nor Max could've predicted that.
** In "Donald's Gift", everyone treats Donald like he's a horrible person for not wanting to go Christmas shopping and snapping after hearing "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" literally everywhere he goes, but all he wanted was to enjoy a nice cup of cocoa in peace, but Daisy and the nephews forced him to go Christmas shopping against his will and nobody would stop getting on his case about Christmas (one person even yanked him for a donation). Is a small break from the holiday havoc too much to ask for? The short tries to justify Daisy's attitude by having her say that Christmas is the time to be with family and friends, but she doesn't even consider postponing the trip to stay home with Donald. Even if they ''had'' to go shopping on that specific day, couldn't they have let Donald stay at home and spent time with him afterwards?
** "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" portrays Mickey as the bad guy for snapping at Pluto and punishing him for wrecking the decorations, but the thing is, Mickey told Pluto to wait for him to put the star on the tree and had worked really hard on the decorations, so it's understandable why Mickey would be upset with him. Yet, we’re supposed to feel bad for Pluto after he disobeyed Mickey?
* JerkassWoobie:
** While Donald was being a bit antisocial in "Donald's Gift", it is still easy to feel bad for him as Daisy and others won't let him have some relaxation and disown him when he understandably snaps.
** Mickey, of all people becomes in this in "Mickey's Doggone Christmas". While he was rather harsh to Pluto, he did work hard on the decorations and anyone in his situation would feel horrible if their pet ran away on Christmas Eve.
** "Christmas Maximus" portrays Max as selfish for wanting Goofy to make a good impression on Mona instead of letting Goofy act as goofy as he normally does. It's not like Max suddenly demands that Goofy act super dignified or anything -- he just wants less potentially embarrassing behaviour. Apparently, that is selfish, but Goofy's not wanting to change his behaviour a little for his son's sake is not. While Mona does end up finding Goofy's antics charming instead of off-putting, neither he nor Max could've predicted that.
** In "Donald's Gift", everyone treats Donald like he's a horrible person for not wanting to go Christmas shopping and snapping after hearing "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" literally everywhere he goes, but all he wanted was to enjoy a nice cup of cocoa in peace, but Daisy and the nephews forced him to go Christmas shopping against his will and nobody would stop getting on his case about Christmas (one person even yanked him for a donation). Is a small break from the holiday havoc too much to ask for? The short tries to justify Daisy's attitude by having her say that Christmas is the time to be with family and friends, but she doesn't even consider postponing the trip to stay home with Donald. Even if they ''had'' to go shopping on that specific day, couldn't they have let Donald stay at home and spent time with him afterwards?
** "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" portrays Mickey as the bad guy for snapping at Pluto and punishing him for wrecking the decorations, but the thing is, Mickey told Pluto to wait for him to put the star on the tree and had worked really hard on the decorations, so it's understandable why Mickey would be upset with him. Yet, we’re supposed to feel bad for Pluto after he disobeyed Mickey?
* JerkassWoobie:
** While Donald was being a bit antisocial in "Donald's Gift", it is still easy to feel bad for him as Daisy and others won't let him have some relaxation and disown him when he understandably snaps.
** Mickey, of all people becomes in this in "Mickey's Doggone Christmas". While he was rather harsh to Pluto, he did work hard on the decorations and anyone in his situation would feel horrible if their pet ran away on Christmas Eve.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint:
** Donald is meant to be portrayed as stuck-up when Daisy encourages him to go to the mall, but he had every right to tell her to give him some space since he had a rough day. Not that Daisy ever listens to him, of course.
** Mickey is supposed to seen as unfair to Pluto by berating him, but his anger towards Pluto is warranted because the latter had intentionally disobeyed him out of impatience, which ruined all his hard work in the process. Being told to stay in the dog house until he gets back from shopping sounds like a pretty reasonable punishment.
** Donald is meant to be portrayed as stuck-up when Daisy encourages him to go to the mall, but he had every right to tell her to give him some space since he had a rough day. Not that Daisy ever listens to him, of course.
** Mickey is supposed to seen as unfair to Pluto by berating him, but his anger towards Pluto is warranted because the latter had intentionally disobeyed him out of impatience, which ruined all his hard work in the process. Being told to stay in the dog house until he gets back from shopping sounds like a pretty reasonable punishment.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Three of the shorts feature characters who are supposed to be jerks at first learning AnAesop, but their pre-CharacterDevelopment behavior ends up being too understandable:
** In "Donald's Gift", Donald suffers through a stressful day of Christmas-related annoyances. When he gets home and tries to relax with a cup of hot chocolate, Daisy barges into his house uninvited and drags him to the mall against his will. Once there, he's bombarded with sound effects that seem to play "We Wish You a Merry Christmas", which stresses him out to the point where he finally snaps and destroys a Christmas exhibition. This causes Daisy and his nephews to ditch him, and a security guard chews him out for having no Christmas spirit. He's supposed to be a grumpy, unlikable Christmas hater, but it's easy to feel sorry for him when many of his Christmas-related grievances are in fact legitimate, and no one ever seems to care about how he feels. It helps his case that "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" is considered an annoying song in real life.
** In "Christmas Maximus", Max is portrayed as selfish for resenting Goofy's antics instead of accepting Goofy the way he is. However, Max's reaction is a lot more understandable when you consider that Goofy seemingly makes absolutely no attempt to avoid embarrassing him (for instance, he shows Max' girlfriend [[EmbarrassingOldPhoto an old baby picture]] for no reason), and the song used in the short suggests that his antics have ''already'' ruined Max's previous chances for romance. It also helps Max's case that he's never outright rude to Goofy -- the worst he does is saying things like "this embarrasses me, so stop doing it" and rejecting Goofy's offer to have cookies inside when he wants to go for a walk.
** "Mickey's Doggone Christmas" is supposed to make us hate Mickey for scolding Pluto, but if Pluto had just listened to Mickey, he wouldn't have gotten scolded in the first place. The story is trying to make Mickey a JerkassWoobie, but it makes him more of a DesignatedVillain than anything else.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Daisy in "Donald's Gift". She's supposed to be a victim of Donald's selfishness (his not wanting to go to the mall, and embarrassing them when he destroys its exhibition), but she comes across as unlikable because she never takes Donald's needs into account. The whole fiasco at the mall could have been avoided if she had simply listened to him when he said he didn't want to go there.
** Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". He's hurt by Max's rejection, but it may be hard to feel sorry for him because it doesn't look like he even ''tries'' to avoid embarrassing Max in front of his girlfriend.
** Pluto in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" is made to be the victim when he gets scolded and punished for accidentally destroying the Christmas decorations that Mickey clearly worked hard on. The problem is that the accident only happened because Pluto tried to put the star on the tree on his own despite Mickey telling him to wait for him, which is a reasonable order that shouldn't be that hard to obey. It doesn't help that the scolding wasn't even that long or harsh, and the worst things Mickey "said" only happened in [[SelfServingMemory Pluto's imagination]].
** In "Donald's Gift", Donald suffers through a stressful day of Christmas-related annoyances. When he gets home and tries to relax with a cup of hot chocolate, Daisy barges into his house uninvited and drags him to the mall against his will. Once there, he's bombarded with sound effects that seem to play "We Wish You a Merry Christmas", which stresses him out to the point where he finally snaps and destroys a Christmas exhibition. This causes Daisy and his nephews to ditch him, and a security guard chews him out for having no Christmas spirit. He's supposed to be a grumpy, unlikable Christmas hater, but it's easy to feel sorry for him when many of his Christmas-related grievances are in fact legitimate, and no one ever seems to care about how he feels. It helps his case that "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" is considered an annoying song in real life.
** In "Christmas Maximus", Max is portrayed as selfish for resenting Goofy's antics instead of accepting Goofy the way he is. However, Max's reaction is a lot more understandable when you consider that Goofy seemingly makes absolutely no attempt to avoid embarrassing him (for instance, he shows Max' girlfriend [[EmbarrassingOldPhoto an old baby picture]] for no reason), and the song used in the short suggests that his antics have ''already'' ruined Max's previous chances for romance. It also helps Max's case that he's never outright rude to Goofy -- the worst he does is saying things like "this embarrasses me, so stop doing it" and rejecting Goofy's offer to have cookies inside when he wants to go for a walk.
** "Mickey's Doggone Christmas" is supposed to make us hate Mickey for scolding Pluto, but if Pluto had just listened to Mickey, he wouldn't have gotten scolded in the first place. The story is trying to make Mickey a JerkassWoobie, but it makes him more of a DesignatedVillain than anything else.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Daisy in "Donald's Gift". She's supposed to be a victim of Donald's selfishness (his not wanting to go to the mall, and embarrassing them when he destroys its exhibition), but she comes across as unlikable because she never takes Donald's needs into account. The whole fiasco at the mall could have been avoided if she had simply listened to him when he said he didn't want to go there.
** Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". He's hurt by Max's rejection, but it may be hard to feel sorry for him because it doesn't look like he even ''tries'' to avoid embarrassing Max in front of his girlfriend.
** Pluto in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" is made to be the victim when he gets scolded and punished for accidentally destroying the Christmas decorations that Mickey clearly worked hard on. The problem is that the accident only happened because Pluto tried to put the star on the tree on his own despite Mickey telling him to wait for him, which is a reasonable order that shouldn't be that hard to obey. It doesn't help that the scolding wasn't even that long or harsh, and the worst things Mickey "said" only happened in [[SelfServingMemory Pluto's imagination]].
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* NeverLiveItDown: Daisy's misjudgment of Donald, Max getting a new girlfriend and Pluto's disobedience to Mickey will not be forgotten amongst viewers.
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* AccidentalAesop: "Donald’s Gift": If someone needs time to themselves after a tough day, leave them be or they might do something they'll regret.
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* InformedWrongness:
** "Christmas Maximus" portrays Max as selfish for wanting Goofy to make a good impression on Mona instead of letting Goofy act as goofy as he normally does. It's not like Max suddenly demands that Goofy act super dignified or anything -- he just wants less potentially embarrassing behaviour. Apparently, that is selfish, but Goofy's not wanting to change his behaviour a little for his son's sake is not. While Mona does end up finding Goofy's antics charming instead of off-putting, neither he nor Max could've predicted that.
** In "Donald's Gift", everyone treats Donald like he's a horrible person for not wanting to go Christmas shopping and snapping after hearing "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" literally everywhere he goes, but all he wanted was to enjoy a nice cup of cocoa in peace, but Daisy and the nephews forced him to go Christmas shopping against his will and nobody would stop getting on his case about Christmas (one person even yanked him for a donation). Is a small break from the holiday havoc too much to ask for? The short tries to justify Daisy's attitude by having her say that Christmas is the time to be with family and friends, but she doesn't even consider postponing the trip to stay home with Donald. Even if they ''had'' to go shopping on that specific day, couldn't they have let Donald stay at home and spent time with him afterwards?
** "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" portrays Mickey as the bad guy for snapping at Pluto and punishing him for wrecking the decorations, but the thing is, Mickey told Pluto to wait for him to put the star on the tree and had worked really hard on the decorations, so it's understandable why Mickey would be upset with him. Yet, we’re supposed to feel bad for Pluto after he disobeyed Mickey?
* JerkassWoobie:
** While Donald was being a bit antisocial in "Donald's Gift", it is still easy to feel bad for him as Daisy and others won't let him have some relaxation and disown him when he understandably snaps.
** Mickey, of all people becomes in this in "Mickey's Doggone Christmas". While he was rather harsh to Pluto, he did work hard on the decorations and anyone in his situation would feel horrible if their pet ran away on Christmas Eve.
** "Christmas Maximus" portrays Max as selfish for wanting Goofy to make a good impression on Mona instead of letting Goofy act as goofy as he normally does. It's not like Max suddenly demands that Goofy act super dignified or anything -- he just wants less potentially embarrassing behaviour. Apparently, that is selfish, but Goofy's not wanting to change his behaviour a little for his son's sake is not. While Mona does end up finding Goofy's antics charming instead of off-putting, neither he nor Max could've predicted that.
** In "Donald's Gift", everyone treats Donald like he's a horrible person for not wanting to go Christmas shopping and snapping after hearing "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" literally everywhere he goes, but all he wanted was to enjoy a nice cup of cocoa in peace, but Daisy and the nephews forced him to go Christmas shopping against his will and nobody would stop getting on his case about Christmas (one person even yanked him for a donation). Is a small break from the holiday havoc too much to ask for? The short tries to justify Daisy's attitude by having her say that Christmas is the time to be with family and friends, but she doesn't even consider postponing the trip to stay home with Donald. Even if they ''had'' to go shopping on that specific day, couldn't they have let Donald stay at home and spent time with him afterwards?
** "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" portrays Mickey as the bad guy for snapping at Pluto and punishing him for wrecking the decorations, but the thing is, Mickey told Pluto to wait for him to put the star on the tree and had worked really hard on the decorations, so it's understandable why Mickey would be upset with him. Yet, we’re supposed to feel bad for Pluto after he disobeyed Mickey?
* JerkassWoobie:
** While Donald was being a bit antisocial in "Donald's Gift", it is still easy to feel bad for him as Daisy and others won't let him have some relaxation and disown him when he understandably snaps.
** Mickey, of all people becomes in this in "Mickey's Doggone Christmas". While he was rather harsh to Pluto, he did work hard on the decorations and anyone in his situation would feel horrible if their pet ran away on Christmas Eve.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint:
** Donald is meant to be portrayed as stuck-up when Daisy encourages him to go to the mall, but he had every right to tell her to give him some space since he had a rough day. Not that Daisy ever listens to him, of course.
** Mickey is supposed to seen as unfair to Pluto by berating him, but his anger towards Pluto is warranted because the latter had intentionally disobeyed him out of impatience, which ruined all his hard work in the process. Being told to stay in the dog house until he gets back from shopping sounds like a pretty reasonable punishment.
** Donald is meant to be portrayed as stuck-up when Daisy encourages him to go to the mall, but he had every right to tell her to give him some space since he had a rough day. Not that Daisy ever listens to him, of course.
** Mickey is supposed to seen as unfair to Pluto by berating him, but his anger towards Pluto is warranted because the latter had intentionally disobeyed him out of impatience, which ruined all his hard work in the process. Being told to stay in the dog house until he gets back from shopping sounds like a pretty reasonable punishment.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Three of the shorts feature characters who are supposed to be jerks at first learning AnAesop, but their pre-CharacterDevelopment behavior ends up being too understandable:
** In "Donald's Gift", Donald suffers through a stressful day of Christmas-related annoyances. When he gets home and tries to relax with a cup of hot chocolate, Daisy barges into his house uninvited and drags him to the mall against his will. Once there, he's bombarded with sound effects that seem to play "We Wish You a Merry Christmas", which stresses him out to the point where he finally snaps and destroys a Christmas exhibition. This causes Daisy and his nephews to ditch him, and a security guard chews him out for having no Christmas spirit. He's supposed to be a grumpy, unlikable Christmas hater, but it's easy to feel sorry for him when many of his Christmas-related grievances are in fact legitimate, and no one ever seems to care about how he feels. It helps his case that "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" is considered an annoying song in real life.
** In "Christmas Maximus", Max is portrayed as selfish for resenting Goofy's antics instead of accepting Goofy the way he is. However, Max's reaction is a lot more understandable when you consider that Goofy seemingly makes absolutely no attempt to avoid embarrassing him (for instance, he shows Max' girlfriend [[EmbarrassingOldPhoto an old baby picture]] for no reason), and the song used in the short suggests that his antics have ''already'' ruined Max's previous chances for romance. It also helps Max's case that he's never outright rude to Goofy -- the worst he does is saying things like "this embarrasses me, so stop doing it" and rejecting Goofy's offer to have cookies inside when he wants to go for a walk.
** "Mickey's Doggone Christmas" is supposed to make us hate Mickey for scolding Pluto, but if Pluto had just listened to Mickey, he wouldn't have gotten scolded in the first place. The story is trying to make Mickey a JerkassWoobie, but it makes him more of a DesignatedVillain than anything else.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Daisy in "Donald's Gift". She's supposed to be a victim of Donald's selfishness (his not wanting to go to the mall, and embarrassing them when he destroys its exhibition), but she comes across as unlikable because she never takes Donald's needs into account. The whole fiasco at the mall could have been avoided if she had simply listened to him when he said he didn't want to go there.
** Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". He's hurt by Max's rejection, but it may be hard to feel sorry for him because it doesn't look like he even ''tries'' to avoid embarrassing Max in front of his girlfriend.
%% ** Pluto in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" is made to be the victim when he gets scolded and punished for accidentally destroying the Christmas decorations that Mickey clearly worked hard on. The problem is that the accident only happened because Pluto tried to put the star on the tree on his own despite Mickey telling him to wait for him, which is a reasonable order that shouldn't be that hard to obey. It doesn't help that the scolding wasn't even that long or harsh, and the worst things Mickey "said" only happened in [[SelfServingMemory Pluto's imagination]].
** In "Donald's Gift", Donald suffers through a stressful day of Christmas-related annoyances. When he gets home and tries to relax with a cup of hot chocolate, Daisy barges into his house uninvited and drags him to the mall against his will. Once there, he's bombarded with sound effects that seem to play "We Wish You a Merry Christmas", which stresses him out to the point where he finally snaps and destroys a Christmas exhibition. This causes Daisy and his nephews to ditch him, and a security guard chews him out for having no Christmas spirit. He's supposed to be a grumpy, unlikable Christmas hater, but it's easy to feel sorry for him when many of his Christmas-related grievances are in fact legitimate, and no one ever seems to care about how he feels. It helps his case that "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" is considered an annoying song in real life.
** In "Christmas Maximus", Max is portrayed as selfish for resenting Goofy's antics instead of accepting Goofy the way he is. However, Max's reaction is a lot more understandable when you consider that Goofy seemingly makes absolutely no attempt to avoid embarrassing him (for instance, he shows Max' girlfriend [[EmbarrassingOldPhoto an old baby picture]] for no reason), and the song used in the short suggests that his antics have ''already'' ruined Max's previous chances for romance. It also helps Max's case that he's never outright rude to Goofy -- the worst he does is saying things like "this embarrasses me, so stop doing it" and rejecting Goofy's offer to have cookies inside when he wants to go for a walk.
** "Mickey's Doggone Christmas" is supposed to make us hate Mickey for scolding Pluto, but if Pluto had just listened to Mickey, he wouldn't have gotten scolded in the first place. The story is trying to make Mickey a JerkassWoobie, but it makes him more of a DesignatedVillain than anything else.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Daisy in "Donald's Gift". She's supposed to be a victim of Donald's selfishness (his not wanting to go to the mall, and embarrassing them when he destroys its exhibition), but she comes across as unlikable because she never takes Donald's needs into account. The whole fiasco at the mall could have been avoided if she had simply listened to him when he said he didn't want to go there.
** Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". He's hurt by Max's rejection, but it may be hard to feel sorry for him because it doesn't look like he even ''tries'' to avoid embarrassing Max in front of his girlfriend.
%% ** Pluto in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" is made to be the victim when he gets scolded and punished for accidentally destroying the Christmas decorations that Mickey clearly worked hard on. The problem is that the accident only happened because Pluto tried to put the star on the tree on his own despite Mickey telling him to wait for him, which is a reasonable order that shouldn't be that hard to obey. It doesn't help that the scolding wasn't even that long or harsh, and the worst things Mickey "said" only happened in [[SelfServingMemory Pluto's imagination]].
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They weren't meant to be seen as "heroes" anyway. Just regular decent people.
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%% * DesignatedHero:
%% ** Goofy. Despite telling Max that he'll be on his best behavior, he goes completely overboard with his incompetence and childish antics. You can't help but wonder if he's trying at all, or even embarrassing his son on purpose.
%% ** Daisy in "Donald's Gift". She barges into Donald's house uninvited and forces Donald to go shopping with her and the nephews against his will. Then she has the nerve to chew him out for not wanting to do so and doesn't even care that everyone was getting on his case.
%% ** Many reviewers have noted that Pluto deserved to get punished, since he deliberately disobeyed Mickey just because he couldn't wait to put the star on the tree, which led to him causing a blackout in the house and destroying Mickey's hard-worked Christmas decorations. It doesn't help that Mickey barely even scolded him in the first place and simply told him to go sit in his dog house.
%% ** Goofy. Despite telling Max that he'll be on his best behavior, he goes completely overboard with his incompetence and childish antics. You can't help but wonder if he's trying at all, or even embarrassing his son on purpose.
%% ** Daisy in "Donald's Gift". She barges into Donald's house uninvited and forces Donald to go shopping with her and the nephews against his will. Then she has the nerve to chew him out for not wanting to do so and doesn't even care that everyone was getting on his case.
%% ** Many reviewers have noted that Pluto deserved to get punished, since he deliberately disobeyed Mickey just because he couldn't wait to put the star on the tree, which led to him causing a blackout in the house and destroying Mickey's hard-worked Christmas decorations. It doesn't help that Mickey barely even scolded him in the first place and simply told him to go sit in his dog house.
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Even if they were sympathetic, intentional or not, calling them "villains" would still be a stretch.
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* DesignatedVillain:
** Donald is allegedly a Christmas-hating jerk for not wanting to go to the mall with Daisy and the triplets, but all he wanted was relaxation from a tough day and nobody cares about his issues. You can't blame him for losing his cool later on.
** Mickey is meant to be seen as a jerk for berating Pluto, but he worked very hard on the decorations and Pluto purposely disobeyed his simple order of not touching the star. He didn't even yell or insult Pluto; he just told him to stay in the dog house.
** Donald is allegedly a Christmas-hating jerk for not wanting to go to the mall with Daisy and the triplets, but all he wanted was relaxation from a tough day and nobody cares about his issues. You can't blame him for losing his cool later on.
** Mickey is meant to be seen as a jerk for berating Pluto, but he worked very hard on the decorations and Pluto purposely disobeyed his simple order of not touching the star. He didn't even yell or insult Pluto; he just told him to stay in the dog house.
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** Donald is allegedly a Christmas-hating jerk for not wanting to go to the mall with Daisy and the triplets, but all he wanted was relaxation from a tough day and nobody cares about his issues. You can't blame him for losing his cool later on.
** Mickey is meant to be seen as a jerk for berating Pluto, but he worked very hard on the decorations and Pluto purposely disobeyed his simple order of not touching the star. He didn't even yell or insult Pluto; he just told him to stay in the dog house.
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** Pluto being TheRunaway in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas". Did he run away out of spite for Mickey yelling at him for ruining the Christmas decorations [[NeverMyFault after trying to put the star on the tree when he was told not to]], or was he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone truly so ashamed that he thought Mickey would be better off without him]]?
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** Pluto being TheRunaway in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas". Did he run away out of spite for Mickey yelling at him for ruining the Christmas decorations [[NeverMyFault after trying to put the star on the tree when he was told not to]], or was he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone truly so ashamed that he thought Mickey would be better off without him]]?him]]? His crying over how much he misses Mickey clearly indicates the latter.
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** Pluto being TheRunaway in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas". Did he run away out of spite for Mickey yelling at him for ruining the Christmas decorations [[NeverMyFault after trying to put the star on the tree when he was told not to]], or was he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone truly so ashamed that he thought that Mickey would be better off without him]]?
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** Pluto being TheRunaway in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas". Did he run away out of spite for Mickey yelling at him for ruining the Christmas decorations [[NeverMyFault after trying to put the star on the tree when he was told not to]], or was he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone truly so ashamed that he thought that Mickey would be better off without him]]?
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: ** Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". While he's portrayed at first glance as your average good-natured [[TheKlutz klutz]] and BumblingDad, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max to forget about him.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". While he's portrayed at first glance as your average good-natured [[TheKlutz klutz]] and BumblingDad, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max to forget about him.
** Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". While he's portrayed at first glance as your average good-natured [[TheKlutz klutz]] and BumblingDad, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max to forget about him.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". While he's portrayed at first glance as your average good-natured [[TheKlutz klutz]] and BumblingDad, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max to forget about him.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: ** Goofy in "Christmas Maximus". While he's portrayed at first glance as your average good-natured [[TheKlutz klutz]] and BumblingDad, the whole thing looks like he's deliberately doing everything in his power to ruin Max's date by continuously humiliating him with his overly sappy doting tendencies. Plus, the song "Make Me Look Good" noticeably suggests Goofy's antics have previously ruined Max's attempts at a romantic life, making one wonder if Goofy is [[ObfuscatingStupidity genuinely aware]] Max doesn't want him to act in such an embarrassing way but willingly ignores him in order to sabotage his son's chances at love for some [[KnightTemplarParent sinister reason]] or because he doesn’t want Max to forget about him.
** Pluto being TheRunaway in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas". Did he run away out of spite for Mickey yelling at him for ruining the Christmas decorations [[NeverMyFault after trying to put the star on the tree when he was told not to]], or was he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone truly so ashamed that he thought that Mickey would be better off without him]]?
** Pluto being TheRunaway in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas". Did he run away out of spite for Mickey yelling at him for ruining the Christmas decorations [[NeverMyFault after trying to put the star on the tree when he was told not to]], or was he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone truly so ashamed that he thought that Mickey would be better off without him]]?
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** Pluto in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" is made to be the victim when he gets scolded and punished for accidentally destroying the Christmas decorations that Mickey clearly worked hard on. The problem is that the accident only happened because Pluto tried to put the star on the tree on his own despite Mickey telling him to wait for him, which is a reasonable order that shouldn't be that hard to obey. It doesn't help that the scolding wasn't even that long or harsh, and the worst things Mickey "said" only happened in [[SelfServingMemory Pluto's imagination]].
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%% ** Pluto in "Mickey's Dog-Gone Christmas" is made to be the victim when he gets scolded and punished for accidentally destroying the Christmas decorations that Mickey clearly worked hard on. The problem is that the accident only happened because Pluto tried to put the star on the tree on his own despite Mickey telling him to wait for him, which is a reasonable order that shouldn't be that hard to obey. It doesn't help that the scolding wasn't even that long or harsh, and the worst things Mickey "said" only happened in [[SelfServingMemory Pluto's imagination]].
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Was any of this really deliberate?
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* DesignatedHero:
** Goofy. Despite telling Max that he'll be on his best behavior, he goes completely overboard with his incompetence and childish antics. You can't help but wonder if he's trying at all, or even embarrassing his son on purpose.
** Daisy in "Donald's Gift". She barges into Donald's house uninvited and forces Donald to go shopping with her and the nephews against his will. Then she has the nerve to chew him out for not wanting to do so and doesn't even care that everyone was getting on his case.
** Many reviewers have noted that Pluto deserved to get punished, since he deliberately disobeyed Mickey just because he couldn't wait to put the star on the tree, which led to him causing a blackout in the house and destroying Mickey's hard-worked Christmas decorations. It doesn't help that Mickey barely even scolded him in the first place and simply told him to go sit in his dog house.
** Goofy. Despite telling Max that he'll be on his best behavior, he goes completely overboard with his incompetence and childish antics. You can't help but wonder if he's trying at all, or even embarrassing his son on purpose.
** Daisy in "Donald's Gift". She barges into Donald's house uninvited and forces Donald to go shopping with her and the nephews against his will. Then she has the nerve to chew him out for not wanting to do so and doesn't even care that everyone was getting on his case.
** Many reviewers have noted that Pluto deserved to get punished, since he deliberately disobeyed Mickey just because he couldn't wait to put the star on the tree, which led to him causing a blackout in the house and destroying Mickey's hard-worked Christmas decorations. It doesn't help that Mickey barely even scolded him in the first place and simply told him to go sit in his dog house.
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%% * DesignatedHero:
%% ** Goofy. Despite telling Max that he'll be on his best behavior, he goes completely overboard with his incompetence and childish antics. You can't help but wonder if he's trying at all, or even embarrassing his son on purpose.
%% ** Daisy in "Donald's Gift". She barges into Donald's house uninvited and forces Donald to go shopping with her and the nephews against his will. Then she has the nerve to chew him out for not wanting to do so and doesn't even care that everyone was getting on his case.
%% ** Many reviewers have noted that Pluto deserved to get punished, since he deliberately disobeyed Mickey just because he couldn't wait to put the star on the tree, which led to him causing a blackout in the house and destroying Mickey's hard-worked Christmas decorations. It doesn't help that Mickey barely even scolded him in the first place and simply told him to go sit in his dog house.
%% ** Goofy. Despite telling Max that he'll be on his best behavior, he goes completely overboard with his incompetence and childish antics. You can't help but wonder if he's trying at all, or even embarrassing his son on purpose.
%% ** Daisy in "Donald's Gift". She barges into Donald's house uninvited and forces Donald to go shopping with her and the nephews against his will. Then she has the nerve to chew him out for not wanting to do so and doesn't even care that everyone was getting on his case.
%% ** Many reviewers have noted that Pluto deserved to get punished, since he deliberately disobeyed Mickey just because he couldn't wait to put the star on the tree, which led to him causing a blackout in the house and destroying Mickey's hard-worked Christmas decorations. It doesn't help that Mickey barely even scolded him in the first place and simply told him to go sit in his dog house.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Daisy's mistreatment of Donald, Max getting a new girlfriend and Pluto's disobedience to Mickey will not be forgotten amongst viewers.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Daisy's mistreatment misjudgment of Donald, Max getting a new girlfriend and Pluto's disobedience to Mickey will not be forgotten amongst viewers.
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The character has to be consistently hated to qualify.
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* TheScrappy: Daisy, due to her bullying Donald and Minnie for the entire film.
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* UncannyValley: While the CGI animation isn't awful for its time of production, it hasn't aged particularly well. Some of the models look a bit grotesque, rubbery and stiff, particular the non-regular cast.
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* UncannyValley: While the CGI animation isn't awful for its time of production, it hasn't aged particularly well. Some of the models look a bit grotesque, rubbery and stiff, particular particularly the non-regular cast.
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** Donald is allegedly a Christmas-hating jerk for not wanting to go to the mall with Daisy and the triplets, but all he wanted was relaxation for tough day and nobody cares about his issue. You can't blame him for losing his cool later on.
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** Donald is allegedly a Christmas-hating jerk for not wanting to go to the mall with Daisy and the triplets, but all he wanted was relaxation for from a tough day and nobody cares about his issue.issues. You can't blame him for losing his cool later on.
