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* RonTheDeathEater:
** Aizawa's "ToughLove" veers straight into outright sadism, as he immediately establishes that none of his students can come to him with their problems or trust him with anything, as he'll throw any signs of weakness back in their faces. He effectively takes ''Katsuki's'' bias against the Quirkless to its logical conclusion, taking it upon himself to teach Izuku that nobody will ever accept him due to his Quirklessness and that he just has to 'suck it up' and take the abuse, going out of his way to make his time at U.A. as miserable a slog as possible. Even when he tells Izuku why he's acting the way he is, Aizawa still outright states he's never going to give him a break for any reason.
** Nearly every character in the story is worse than in canon, some of the only exceptions being Miruko, All Might, and Izuku's friends. Almost every character is quirkist and treats Izuku like shit for no reason. One of the biggest examples is Jirou, who tries to leave Izuku to die at the USJ just because she saw him as a jerk.
** Aizawa's "ToughLove" veers straight into outright sadism, as he immediately establishes that none of his students can come to him with their problems or trust him with anything, as he'll throw any signs of weakness back in their faces. He effectively takes ''Katsuki's'' bias against the Quirkless to its logical conclusion, taking it upon himself to teach Izuku that nobody will ever accept him due to his Quirklessness and that he just has to 'suck it up' and take the abuse, going out of his way to make his time at U.A. as miserable a slog as possible. Even when he tells Izuku why he's acting the way he is, Aizawa still outright states he's never going to give him a break for any reason.
** Nearly every character in the story is worse than in canon, some of the only exceptions being Miruko, All Might, and Izuku's friends. Almost every character is quirkist and treats Izuku like shit for no reason. One of the biggest examples is Jirou, who tries to leave Izuku to die at the USJ just because she saw him as a jerk.
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* RonTheDeathEater: Aizawa's "ToughLove" veers straight into outright sadism, as he immediately establishes that none of his students can come to him with their problems or trust him with anything, as he'll throw any signs of weakness back in their faces. He effectively takes ''Katsuki's'' bias against the Quirkless to its logical conclusion, taking it upon himself to teach Izuku that nobody will ever accept him due to his Quirklessness and that he just has to 'suck it up' and take the abuse, going out of his way to make his time at U.A. as miserable a slog as possible. Even when he tells Izuku why he's acting the way he is, Aizawa still outright states he's never going to give him a break for any reason.
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* RonTheDeathEater: RonTheDeathEater:
** Aizawa's "ToughLove" veers straight into outright sadism, as he immediately establishes that none of his students can come to him with their problems or trust him with anything, as he'll throw any signs of weakness back in their faces. He effectively takes ''Katsuki's'' bias against the Quirkless to its logical conclusion, taking it upon himself to teach Izuku that nobody will ever accept him due to his Quirklessness and that he just has to 'suck it up' and take the abuse, going out of his way to make his time at U.A. as miserable a slog as possible. Even when he tells Izuku why he's acting the way he is, Aizawa still outright states he's never going to give him a break for anyreason.reason.
** Nearly every character in the story is worse than in canon, some of the only exceptions being Miruko, All Might, and Izuku's friends. Almost every character is quirkist and treats Izuku like shit for no reason. One of the biggest examples is Jirou, who tries to leave Izuku to die at the USJ just because she saw him as a jerk.
** Aizawa's "ToughLove" veers straight into outright sadism, as he immediately establishes that none of his students can come to him with their problems or trust him with anything, as he'll throw any signs of weakness back in their faces. He effectively takes ''Katsuki's'' bias against the Quirkless to its logical conclusion, taking it upon himself to teach Izuku that nobody will ever accept him due to his Quirklessness and that he just has to 'suck it up' and take the abuse, going out of his way to make his time at U.A. as miserable a slog as possible. Even when he tells Izuku why he's acting the way he is, Aizawa still outright states he's never going to give him a break for any
** Nearly every character in the story is worse than in canon, some of the only exceptions being Miruko, All Might, and Izuku's friends. Almost every character is quirkist and treats Izuku like shit for no reason. One of the biggest examples is Jirou, who tries to leave Izuku to die at the USJ just because she saw him as a jerk.
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* TheScrappy: Most of the characters in the story are hated by the audience, especially Aizawa, for being massive assholes who discriminate against Izuku for his quirklessness and for pointless, petty reasons. Most of Izuku's classmates are hated for similar reasons, such as Kyouka, who left Izuku to die at the USJ.
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** Izuku's classmates hate him and his teacher is blatantly hostile towards his existence. Despite this, it's hard to sympathize with Izuku as, rather than try to smooth things over, he just acts like a {{Jerkass}} towards pretty much everyone. Not to mention being self-absorbed to the point he doesn't even recognize some of his classmates after weeks of knowing them[[labelnote:*]]During the Sports Festival, Izuku is partnered with Koda and doesn't have any idea who that is and only vaguely remembers the boy upon seeing him.[[/labelnote]]. On the other hand Izuku has no reason to be nice to others when they are the ones to be unfair to him and more over the teacher and classmates are the ones to throw the first punch.
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** Izuku's classmates hate him and his teacher is blatantly hostile towards his existence. Despite this, it's hard to sympathize with Izuku as, rather than try to smooth things over, he just acts like a {{Jerkass}} towards pretty much everyone. Not to mention being self-absorbed to the point he doesn't even recognize some of his classmates after weeks of knowing them[[labelnote:*]]During the Sports Festival, Izuku is partnered with Koda and doesn't have any idea who that is and only vaguely remembers the boy upon seeing him.[[/labelnote]]. On While the other hand Izuku has no reason to be nice to others when they are the ones to be students ''are'' unfair to him and more over the teacher and classmates are the ones to frequently throw the first punch.metaphorical punch, he doesn't even ''try'' to change their minds or adjust their opinions, preferring instead to just use it as an excuse to whine about them.
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** Izuku's classmates hate him and his teacher is blatantly hostile towards his existence. Despite this, it's hard to sympathize with Izuku as, rather than try to smooth things over, he just acts like a {{Jerkass}} towards pretty much everyone. Not to mention being self-absorbed to the point he doesn't even recognize some of his classmates after weeks of knowing them[[labelnote:*]]During the Sports Festival, Izuku is partnered with Kodai and doesn't have any idea who that is and only vaguely remembers the boy upon seeing him.[[/labelnote]]. On the other hand Izuku has no reason to be nice to others when they are the ones to be unfair to him and more over the teacher and classmates are the ones to throw the first punch.
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** Izuku's classmates hate him and his teacher is blatantly hostile towards his existence. Despite this, it's hard to sympathize with Izuku as, rather than try to smooth things over, he just acts like a {{Jerkass}} towards pretty much everyone. Not to mention being self-absorbed to the point he doesn't even recognize some of his classmates after weeks of knowing them[[labelnote:*]]During the Sports Festival, Izuku is partnered with Kodai Koda and doesn't have any idea who that is and only vaguely remembers the boy upon seeing him.[[/labelnote]]. On the other hand Izuku has no reason to be nice to others when they are the ones to be unfair to him and more over the teacher and classmates are the ones to throw the first punch.
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* RonTheDeathEater: Aizawa's "ToughLove" veers straight into outright sadism, as he immediately establishes that none of his students can come to him with their problems or trust him with anything, as he'll throw any signs of weakness back in their faces. He effectively takes ''Katsuki's'' bias against the Quirkless to its logical conclusion, taking it upon himself to teach Izuku that nobody will ever accept him due to his Quirklessness and that he just has to 'suck it up' and take the abuse, going out of his way to make his time at U.A. as miserable a slog as possible.
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* RonTheDeathEater: Aizawa's "ToughLove" veers straight into outright sadism, as he immediately establishes that none of his students can come to him with their problems or trust him with anything, as he'll throw any signs of weakness back in their faces. He effectively takes ''Katsuki's'' bias against the Quirkless to its logical conclusion, taking it upon himself to teach Izuku that nobody will ever accept him due to his Quirklessness and that he just has to 'suck it up' and take the abuse, going out of his way to make his time at U.A. as miserable a slog as possible. Even when he tells Izuku why he's acting the way he is, Aizawa still outright states he's never going to give him a break for any reason.
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** Izuku's classmates hate him and his teacher is blatantly hostile towards his existence. Despite this, it's hard to sympathize with Izuku as, rather than try to smooth things over, he just acts like a {{Jerkass}} towards pretty much everyone. On the other hand Izuku has no reason to be nice to others when they are the ones to be unfair to him and more over the teacher and classmates are the ones to throw the first punch.
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** Izuku's classmates hate him and his teacher is blatantly hostile towards his existence. Despite this, it's hard to sympathize with Izuku as, rather than try to smooth things over, he just acts like a {{Jerkass}} towards pretty much everyone. Not to mention being self-absorbed to the point he doesn't even recognize some of his classmates after weeks of knowing them[[labelnote:*]]During the Sports Festival, Izuku is partnered with Kodai and doesn't have any idea who that is and only vaguely remembers the boy upon seeing him.[[/labelnote]]. On the other hand Izuku has no reason to be nice to others when they are the ones to be unfair to him and more over the teacher and classmates are the ones to throw the first punch.
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** Kyoka breaks down crying while apologizing to Izuku for her actions at the USJ. But she still wanted to leave a concussed classmate to die simply because his refusal to bow to Aizawa's prejudice got her expelled. Kyoka claims she did it because "she was so scared" but her immediate reaction to finding Izuku bleeding from the head and unable to stand was to calmly say "Alright, let's go" to the rest of the group. After she's guilt-tripped into helping and Kaminari wanders off, she kicks Izuku in the groin for telling her to stop shouting when more villains might hear them.
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** Kyoka breaks down crying while apologizing to Izuku for her actions at the USJ. But she still wanted to leave a concussed classmate to die simply because his refusal to bow to Aizawa's prejudice got led to her expelled.suffering an expulsion scare. Kyoka claims she did it because "she was so scared" but her immediate reaction to finding Izuku bleeding from the head and unable to stand was to calmly say "Alright, let's go" to the rest of the group. After she's guilt-tripped into helping and Kaminari wanders off, she kicks Izuku in the groin for telling her to stop shouting when more villains might hear them.
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** Izuku's classmates hate him and his teacher is blatantly hostile towards his existence. Despite this, it's hard to sympathize with Izuku as, rather than try to smooth things over, he just acts like a {{Jerkass}} towards pretty much everyone.
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** Izuku's classmates hate him and his teacher is blatantly hostile towards his existence. Despite this, it's hard to sympathize with Izuku as, rather than try to smooth things over, he just acts like a {{Jerkass}} towards pretty much everyone. On the other hand Izuku has no reason to be nice to others when they are the ones to be unfair to him and more over the teacher and classmates are the ones to throw the first punch.
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* RonTheDeathEater:
** Aizawa's 'ToughLove' veers straight into outright sadism, as he immediately establishes that none of his students can come to him with their problems or trust him with anything, as he'll throw any signs of weakness back in their faces. He effectively takes ''Katsuki's'' bias against the Quirkless to its logical conclusion, taking it upon himself to teach Izuku that nobody will ever accept him due to his Quirklessness and that he just has to 'suck it up' and take the abuse, going out of his way to make his time at U.A. as miserable a slog as possible.
** Aizawa's 'ToughLove' veers straight into outright sadism, as he immediately establishes that none of his students can come to him with their problems or trust him with anything, as he'll throw any signs of weakness back in their faces. He effectively takes ''Katsuki's'' bias against the Quirkless to its logical conclusion, taking it upon himself to teach Izuku that nobody will ever accept him due to his Quirklessness and that he just has to 'suck it up' and take the abuse, going out of his way to make his time at U.A. as miserable a slog as possible.
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* RonTheDeathEater:
**RonTheDeathEater: Aizawa's 'ToughLove' "ToughLove" veers straight into outright sadism, as he immediately establishes that none of his students can come to him with their problems or trust him with anything, as he'll throw any signs of weakness back in their faces. He effectively takes ''Katsuki's'' bias against the Quirkless to its logical conclusion, taking it upon himself to teach Izuku that nobody will ever accept him due to his Quirklessness and that he just has to 'suck it up' and take the abuse, going out of his way to make his time at U.A. as miserable a slog as possible.
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* RonTheDeathEater:
** Aizawa's 'ToughLove' veers straight into outright sadism, as he immediately establishes that none of his students can come to him with their problems or trust him with anything, as he'll throw any signs of weakness back in their faces. He effectively takes ''Katsuki's'' bias against the Quirkless to its logical conclusion, taking it upon himself to teach Izuku that nobody will ever accept him due to his Quirklessness and that he just has to 'suck it up' and take the abuse, going out of his way to make his time at U.A. as miserable a slog as possible.
** Aizawa's 'ToughLove' veers straight into outright sadism, as he immediately establishes that none of his students can come to him with their problems or trust him with anything, as he'll throw any signs of weakness back in their faces. He effectively takes ''Katsuki's'' bias against the Quirkless to its logical conclusion, taking it upon himself to teach Izuku that nobody will ever accept him due to his Quirklessness and that he just has to 'suck it up' and take the abuse, going out of his way to make his time at U.A. as miserable a slog as possible.
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** Kyoka breaks down crying while apologizing to Izuku for her actions at the USJ. But she still wanted to leave a concussed classmate to die simply because his refusal to bow to Aizawa's prejudice got her expelled. Kyoka claims she did it because "she was so scared" but her immediate reaction to finding Izuku bleeding from the head and unable to stand was to calmly say "Alright, let's go" to the rest of the group. After she's guilt-tripped into helping and Kaminari wanders off, she kicks Izuku in the groin for telling her to stop shouting when more villains might hear them.
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** Kyoka breaks down crying while apologizing to Izuku for her actions at the USJ. But she still wanted to leave a concussed classmate to die simply because his refusal to bow to Aizawa's prejudice got her expelled. Kyoka claims she did it because "she was so scared" but her immediate reaction to finding Izuku bleeding from the head and unable to stand was to calmly say "Alright, let's go" to the rest of the group. After she's guilt-tripped into helping and Kaminari wanders off, she kicks Izuku in the groin for telling her to stop shouting when more villains might hear them.them.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** How much of Aizawa's insistence that he's practicing ToughLove is him [[BelievingTheirOwnLies Believing His Own Lies]]? How much is SunkCostFallacy? Does he recognize the wedges he's driven into Class 1-A, or the role he's played in bringing out the worst in his students? Does he ''care''?
** Did Kyouka apologize to Izuku because she sincerely regrets mistreating ''him'', or is her guilt a more generalized thing? Does Izuku's suggestion that she's apologizing more because she doesn't want to get into trouble for her actions at the USJ hold any merit?
** How much of Aizawa's insistence that he's practicing ToughLove is him [[BelievingTheirOwnLies Believing His Own Lies]]? How much is SunkCostFallacy? Does he recognize the wedges he's driven into Class 1-A, or the role he's played in bringing out the worst in his students? Does he ''care''?
** Did Kyouka apologize to Izuku because she sincerely regrets mistreating ''him'', or is her guilt a more generalized thing? Does Izuku's suggestion that she's apologizing more because she doesn't want to get into trouble for her actions at the USJ hold any merit?
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: A common complaint is that pretty much everyone in the story is a {{Jerkass}}. Most of the cast who interact with Izuku hate him for reasons beyond his control. Aizawa is even more hostile towards Izuku than ''Bakugou'' is. And Izuku is spiteful towards almost everyone because they hate him.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Izuku's classmates hate him and his teacher is blatantly hostile towards his existence. Despite this, it's hard to sympathize with Izuku as, rather than try to smooth things over, he just acts like a {{Jerkass}} towards pretty much everyone.
** Kyoka breaks down crying while apologizing to Izuku for her actions at the USJ. But she still wanted to leave a concussed classmate to die simply because his refusal to bow to Aizawa's prejudice got her expelled. Kyoka claims she did it because "she was so scared" but her immediate reaction to finding Izuku bleeding from the head and unable to stand was to calmly say "Alright, let's go" to the rest of the group. After she's guilt-tripped into helping and Kaminari wanders off, she kicks Izuku in the groin for telling her to stop shouting when more villains might hear them.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** Izuku's classmates hate him and his teacher is blatantly hostile towards his existence. Despite this, it's hard to sympathize with Izuku as, rather than try to smooth things over, he just acts like a {{Jerkass}} towards pretty much everyone.
** Kyoka breaks down crying while apologizing to Izuku for her actions at the USJ. But she still wanted to leave a concussed classmate to die simply because his refusal to bow to Aizawa's prejudice got her expelled. Kyoka claims she did it because "she was so scared" but her immediate reaction to finding Izuku bleeding from the head and unable to stand was to calmly say "Alright, let's go" to the rest of the group. After she's guilt-tripped into helping and Kaminari wanders off, she kicks Izuku in the groin for telling her to stop shouting when more villains might hear them.
