History YMMV / MaxandDaveFleischer

* DorkAge: The period of their shorts from 1934 and onward, where the Fleischers gradually abandoned their house style and urban humor in favor of emulating Disney, especially the crop of shorts made in Miami, namely the Animated Antics, Stone Age and Gabby cartoons. The ''WesternAnimation/ColorClassics'' and ''WesternAnimation/GulliversTravels'' do have their fans, but are generally considered to be mediocre Disney knockoffs as well. The ''WesternAnimation/BettyBoop'' series went into a steep decline once the [[UsefulNotes/TheHaysCode Hays Office]] was through with it, and even their later ''ComicStrip/{{Popeye}}'' shorts from late 1938 and onward weren't safe from this. They finally found their footing again by the time the [[WesternAnimation/SupermanTheatricalCartoons Superman shorts]] and ''WesternAnimation/MrBugGoesToTown'' came out (along with Popeye adapting into a [[WartimeCartoon war propaganda series]]), but by that time it was too little, too late.

** Values Dissonance: Fleischer cartoons feature occasional racial stereotyping, particularly black and Native American stereotypes. That said, they don't have nearly as much of this as other studios of their era.

** Creator/{{Disney}} and Fleischer fans tend to have an overlapping love of the two despite being day and night in their approaches to it, though theres a fair amount of FandomRivalry sandwiched in.

* OlderThanTheyThink: As noted by the page quote, the Fleischers pioneered many, many animations techniques which would go into greater effect in TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, even though Disney is widely credited with inventing them (and in some circles even accused of stealing credit), which is ironic because Walt Disney always took the time to mention how great an influence the Fleischers were on him. The general consensus is that the Fleischers made many innovations, but it was Disney who refined and perfected them.

* ArchivePanic: They made 629 cartoon shorts and two feature films, from 1918 up to their studios demise in 1942. Even discounting all the missing OutOfTheInkwell shorts, just about every other cartoon short they've made still exists in some form.
* AwesomeArt: One thing that has always stayed consistent about the studio is its art and animation. Their animation is solid, fluid and splendidly inked, and their ink wash backgrounds are downright splendid to look at. Their Stereoptical model sets are a technical marvel.

* GrowingTheBeard: They went in-and-out of this; first, their abandoning of rotoscope on their OutOfTheInkwell cartoons to do more inventive personality animation, then the animation upgrade on their Talkartoons series due to the arrival of Creator/GrimNatwick, and, as mentioned above, their attempts to go toe-to-toe with Creator/{{Disney}}, while mostly fruitless, eventually paid off with the three Popeye Color Specials, and later the Superman cartoons--''Mr. Bug Goes To Town'' proved that the Fleischers had the potential to compete with Disney in the features from a technical perspective, while keeping their own pov intact (or would have, if Creator/{{Paramount}} hadn't thrown them out of their studio or [[ScrewedByTheNetwork bothered to even promote the film]]).

* DorkAge: The period of their shorts from 1934 and onward, where the Fleischers gradually abandoned their house style and urban humor in favor of emulating Disney, especially the crop of shorts made in Miami, namely the Animated Antics, Stone Age and Gabby cartoons. The ColorClassics and ''WesternAnimation/GulliversTravels'' do have their fans, but are generally considered to be mediocre Disney knockoffs as well. The ''WesternAnimation/BettyBoop'' series went into a steep decline once the [[UsefulNotes/TheHaysCode Hays Office]] was through with it, and even their later ''ComicStrip/{{Popeye}}'' shorts from late 1938 and onward weren't safe from this. They finally found their footing again by the time the [[WesternAnimation/SupermanTheatricalCartoons Superman shorts]] and ''WesternAnimation/MrBugGoesToTown'' came out (along with Popeye adapting into a [[WartimeCartoon war propaganda series]]), but by that time it was too little, too late.

* GrowingTheBeard: They went in-and-out of this; first, their abandoning of rotoscope on their OutOfTheInkwell cartoons to do more inventive personality animation, then the animation upgrade on their Talkartoons series due to the arrival of GrimNatwick, and, as mentioned above, their attempts to go toe-to-toe with Disney, while mostly fruitless, eventually paid off with the three Popeye Color Specials, and later the Superman cartoons--''Mr. Bug Goes To Town'' proved that the Fleischers had the potential to compete with Disney in the features from a technical perspective, while keeping their own pov intact (or would have, if Paramount hadn't thrown them out of their studio or [[ScrewedByTheNetwork bothered to even promote the film]]).

* DorkAge: The period of their shorts from 1934 and onward, where the Fleischers gradually abandoned their house style and urban humor in favor of emulating Disney, especially the crop of shorts made in Miami, namely the Animated Antics, Stone Age and Gabby cartoons. The ColorClassics and [[WesternAnimation/GulliversTravels Gulliver's Travels]] do have their fans, but are generally considered to be mediocre Disney knockoffs as well. The BettyBoop series went into a steep decline once the [[HaysCode Hays Office]] was through with it, and even their later {{Popeye}} shorts from late 1938 and onward weren't safe from this. They finally found their footing again by the time the [[SupermanTheatricalCartoons Superman shorts]] and MrBugGoesToTown came out (along with Popeye adapting into a [[WartimeCartoon war propaganda series]]), but by that time it was too little, too late.
* GrowingTheBeard: They went in-and-out of this; first, their abandoning of rotoscope on their OutOfTheInkwell cartoons to do more inventive personality animation, then the animation upgrade on their Talkartoons series due to the arrival of GrimNatwick, and, as mentioned above, their attempts to go toe-to-toe with Disney, while mostly fruitless, eventually paid off with the three Popeye Color Specials, and later the Superman cartoons--Mr. Bug Goes To Town proved that the Fleischers had the potential to compete with Disney in the features from a technical perspective, while keeping their own pov intact (or would have, if Paramount hadn't thrown them out of their studio or [[ScrewedByTheNetwork bothered to even promote the film]]).

* ArchivePanic: They made 629 cartoon shorts, from 1918 up to their studios demise in 1942. Even discounting all the missing OutOfTheInkwell shorts, just about every other cartoon short they've made still exists in some form.

* GrowingTheBeard: They went in-and-out of this; first, their abandoning of rotoscope on their OutOfTheInkwell cartoons to do more inventive personality animation, then the animation upgrade on their Talkartoons series due to the arrival of GrimNatwick, and, as mentioned above, their attempts to go toe-to-toe with Disney, while mostly fruitless, eventually paid off with the three Popeye Color Specials, and later the Superman cartoons--Mr. Bug Goes To Town proved that the Fleischers had the potential to compete with Disney in the features from a technical perspectivem, while keeping their own pov intact (or would have, if Paramount hadn't thrown them out of their studio or [[ScrewedByTheNetwork bothered to even promote the film]]).

* DorkAge: The period of their shorts from 1934 and onward, where the Fleischers abandoned their house style in favor of emulating Disney, especially the crop of shorts made in Miami, namely the Animated Antics, Stone Age and Gabby cartoons. The ColorClassics and [[WesternAnimation/GulliversTravels Gulliver's Travels]] do have their fans, but are generally considered to be mediocre Disney knockoffs as well. The BettyBoop series went into a steep decline once the [[HaysCode Hays Office]] was through with it, and even their later {{Popeye}} shorts from late 1938 and onward weren't safe from this. They finally found their footing again by the time the [[SupermanTheatricalCartoons Superman shorts]] and MrBugGoesToTown came out (along with Popeye adapting into a [[WartimeCartoon war propaganda series]]), but by that time it was too little, too late.

* DorkAge: The period of their shorts from 1934 and onward, where the Fleischers abandoned their house style in favor of emulating Disney, especially the crop of shorts made in Miami, namely the Animated Antics, Stone Age and Gabby cartoons. The ColorClassics and [[WesternAnimation/GulliversTravels]] do have their fans, but are generally considered to be mediocre Disney knockoffs as well. The BettyBoop series went into a steep decline once the [[HaysCode Hays Office]] was through with it, and even their later {{Popeye}} shorts from late 1938 and onward weren't safe from this. They finally found their footing again by the time the [[SupermanTheatricalCartoons Superman shorts]] and MrBugGoesToTown came out (along with Popeye adapting into a [[WartimeCartoon war propaganda series]]), but by that time it was too little, too late.

* ArchivePanic: They made 629 cartoon shorts, from 1918 up to their studios demise in 1942. Even discounting all the missing OutOfTheInkwell shorts, just about every other cartoon short they've made still exists in some form.