History YMMV / MaxPayne

21st Aug '17 7:08:26 PM nombretomado
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* JustForFun/XMeetsY:
** ''Max Payne 1 & 2'' is ''Creator/JohnWoo's'' ''HeroicBloodshed'' genre meets ''FilmNoir'' meets ''Film/TheMatrix''.
** ''Max Payne 3'' is ''Film/ManOnFire'' meets ''HeroicBloodshed'' meets ''Film/TheMatrix''.

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* JustForFun/XMeetsY:
** ''Max Payne 1 & 2'' is ''Creator/JohnWoo's'' ''HeroicBloodshed'' genre meets ''FilmNoir'' meets ''Film/TheMatrix''.
** ''Max Payne 3'' is ''Film/ManOnFire'' meets ''HeroicBloodshed'' meets ''Film/TheMatrix''.
8th Aug '17 2:03:28 PM CodyDBuni
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* UncannyValley: Notable on the original game, [[https://static.3drealms.com/media/uploads/2015/10/27/max-payne-7.jpg all the characters lack facial animations and their faces are nothing but textures]]. [[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cV_73-339VU/UuddL4h1fgI/AAAAAAAAnVQ/us0dKfFLQFE/s1600/Max_Payne_%2528PC%2529_Replay_03.jpg Max in the other hand]], [[http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_super/13/139788/2204269-Max-Paynes-face.jpg his face textures may change depending on the player's activities]] [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-F-A0-VHr1dY/Uue2h6Tkh2I/AAAAAAAAncU/FOJKuri6C40/s1600/Max_Payne_(PC)_Replay_14a.jpg even when he gets killed]]. Taken UpToEleven in the third installment where [[https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SiuvL0Y4VWw/maxresdefault.jpg Classic!Max finally have facial animations]], but [[EyesAlwaysShut his eyes barely open]] just like if he's suffering from allergic reaction or... [[MemeticMutation literally constipation]].
30th Jul '17 6:51:02 PM nombretomado
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* JustForFun/XMeetsY:
** ''Max Payne 1 & 2'' is ''Creator/JohnWoo's'' ''HeroicBloodshed'' genre meets ''FilmNoir'' meets ''Film/TheMatrix''.
** ''Max Payne 3'' is ''Film/ManOnFire'' meets ''HeroicBloodshed'' meets ''Film/TheMatrix''.
11th Jul '17 1:24:49 PM Corak
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** The first half of the ''Address Unknown'' funhouse in the second game.

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** The first half of visit to the ''Address Unknown'' funhouse in the second game.
11th Jul '17 1:23:31 PM Corak
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** The first two games' soundtraks feature quite possibly some of the best music in all of gaming. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWNPgqwHh1I& Here]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr3bWDduEZA have]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjByf1NAyOk a]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so3TUeGwMHs listen]].

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** The first two games' soundtraks soundtracks feature quite possibly some of the best music in all of gaming. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWNPgqwHh1I& Here]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr3bWDduEZA have]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjByf1NAyOk a]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so3TUeGwMHs listen]].
11th Jul '17 1:23:03 PM Corak
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** First, the Max Payne theme. In both its [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv0y0On8ZGQ original form]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u116HbMOF the violin rendition]] from the second game.
** The first game's soundtrack, while not as great as the second game, has some standouts like [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWNPgqwHh1I& the Graphic Novel theme]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so3TUeGwMHs Byzantine Power Game]].
** ''Max Payne 2'''s soundtrack features quite possibly some of the best music in all of gaming. Here, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr3bWDduEZA have]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjByf1NAyOk a]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MVsI9vKgiE listen]].

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** First, the Max Payne theme. In both its [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv0y0On8ZGQ original form]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u116HbMOF com/watch?v=u116HbMOF_Y the violin rendition]] from the second game.
** The first game's soundtrack, while not as great as the second game, has two games' soundtraks feature quite possibly some standouts like of the best music in all of gaming. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWNPgqwHh1I& the Graphic Novel theme]] and Here]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so3TUeGwMHs Byzantine Power Game]].
** ''Max Payne 2'''s soundtrack features quite possibly some of the best music in all of gaming. Here, [[https://www.
youtube.com/watch?v=Nr3bWDduEZA have]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjByf1NAyOk a]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MVsI9vKgiE com/watch?v=so3TUeGwMHs listen]].
11th Jul '17 1:20:11 PM Corak
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** First, the Max Payne theme. In both its [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv0y0On8ZGQ original form]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u116HbMOF even better rendition]] from the second game.

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** First, the Max Payne theme. In both its [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv0y0On8ZGQ original form]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u116HbMOF even better the violin rendition]] from the second game.
22nd Jun '17 12:33:45 PM DrakeClawfang
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* MagnificentBastard: Vladimir Lem in ''2''. [[spoiler:He organizes a heavily armed and well-trained militia organization to kill off competitors in the underworld, has them disguise themselves as a cleaning company so they can move about unseen and have the tools to literally clean up after themselves so the cop have less evidence, romances Max's partner to have a mole in the NYPD, and while the cleaners are busy doing his dirty work for him, he's renovating the Ragna Rock nightclub into a posh restaurant and base of operations. If Max hadn't gotten involved, Vlad pretty much would have run New York when it was all over.]]

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* MagnificentBastard: Vladimir Lem in ''2''. [[spoiler:He organizes a heavily armed and well-trained militia organization to kill off competitors in the underworld, has them disguise themselves as a cleaning company so they can move about unseen and have the tools to literally clean up after themselves so the cop have less evidence, romances Max's partner to have a mole in the NYPD, and while the cleaners are busy doing his dirty work for him, he's renovating the Ragna Rock nightclub into a posh restaurant and base of operations. Oh, and he's in the process of taking over the Inner Circle. If Max hadn't gotten involved, Vlad pretty much would have run New York when it was all over.]]
13th May '17 11:32:26 AM BaronVonFistcrunch
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** "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzsiE44Lz_w Late Goodbye]]" which was actually made by the band Music/PoetsOfTheFall!
** The third game's entire soundtrack is fantastic, but particular note should go to [[http://soundcloud.com/rockstargames/police-precinct-90-sec Combat Drugs]]
** Not to mention [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEH_LSL4rVw Tears]]. Especially when it kicks in during the last shootout.

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** "[[https://www.First, the Max Payne theme. In both its [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzsiE44Lz_w Late Goodbye]]" which was actually made by the band Music/PoetsOfTheFall!
** The third game's entire soundtrack is fantastic, but particular note should go to [[http://soundcloud.com/rockstargames/police-precinct-90-sec Combat Drugs]]
** Not to mention [[http://www.
com/watch?v=Cv0y0On8ZGQ original form]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEH_LSL4rVw Tears]]. Especially when it kicks in during com/watch?v=u116HbMOF even better rendition]] from the last shootout.second game.
** The first game's soundtrack, while not as great as the second game, has some standouts like [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWNPgqwHh1I& the Graphic Novel theme]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so3TUeGwMHs Byzantine Power Game]].
** ''Max Payne 2'''s soundtrack features quite possibly some of the best music in all of gaming. Here, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr3bWDduEZA have]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjByf1NAyOk a]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MVsI9vKgiE listen]].
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzsiE44Lz_w Late Goodbye]], the credits theme for ''2'' which was actually made by the band Music/PoetsOfTheFall! Doubly awesome is that it became a pop hit thanks to the game!



** A smaller one is Max's [[TheOtherDarrin constantly changing appearance]], especially with those who consider Sam Lake's [[NarmCharm constipated grimace]] the definitive look for Max. Some players refuse to play the sequels because of the differences in each game.

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** A smaller one is Max's [[TheOtherDarrin constantly changing appearance]], especially with those who consider Sam Lake's [[NarmCharm constipated grimace]] the definitive look for Max. Some players refuse to play the sequels because of the differences lack of Sam Lake's face in each game.them.



* StrangledByTheRedString: For a game marketed as "a film noir love story," ''2'' spends very little time developing the relationship between Mona and Max. The game implies Max has been thinking about Mona for some time before the events of the game, when their only previous interactions were two conversations in the first game. Then in ''2'', most of the time they talk they're on the job busy shooting other people or getting shot at. Considering [[CoitusEnsues what happens]] in the start of Chapter 2, their "love story" comes off more as simple physical lust than actual romantic interest.



* VisualEffectsOfAwesome:
** Max Payne 2. Remedy had been given a higher budget and access to Rockstar's production resources thanks to the success of the first game, and it shows. The entire engine was given a graphical overhaul, with characters given full facial expressions and more fluid animation while the engine was also upgraded with shaders and greatly improved particle effects. The game managed to do all this a full year before the release of ''VideoGame/HalfLife2''.

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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome:
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VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Max Payne 2. Remedy had been given a higher budget and access to Rockstar's production resources thanks to the success of the first game, and it shows. The entire engine was given a graphical overhaul, with characters given full facial expressions and more fluid animation while the engine was also upgraded with shaders and greatly improved particle effects. The game managed to do all this a full year before the release of ''VideoGame/HalfLife2''.



* VindicatedByHistory: Given the InNameOnly nature of the third game, some fans have warmed up to the film for its art design and keeping the New York setting and film noir style of the games.



** Several felt this way about Creator/MarkWahlberg as Max Payne as he didn't capture the charm of Sam Lake's Max or the hardboiled detective look of Timothy Gibbs. Some felt that Max's voice actor James [=McCaffrey=] should have played him here, especially since he has a cameo in the film as an FBI agent.

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** Several felt this way about Creator/MarkWahlberg as Max Payne as he didn't capture the charm of Sam Lake's Max or the hardboiled detective look of Timothy Gibbs. Some felt that Max's voice actor James [=McCaffrey=] should have played him here, especially since he already has a cameo in the film as an FBI agent.
12th May '17 5:55:42 PM BaronVonFistcrunch
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* FandomBerserkButton: Mention that you like ''any'' aspect of ''3'', from the story to the soundtrack, to older fans of the series at your own peril.



* HellIsThatNoise: The entire soundtrack to ''3'' is filled with harsh buzzing and jarring noise-rock that is, presumably, meant to represent Max's frayed state of mind, but is more likely to make players want to mute it all instead.



* IdiotPlot: In 1, [[spoiler: Woden could have punctured Horne's entire criminal enterprise by mailing his evidence on the Valkyr project to multiple legal bodies and individuals. Instead he posts it to one woman. Who gets brutally murdered shortly there-after]]. It gets even dumber later in the game when you find out [[spoiler:the only reason Woden claims "[our] hands are tied" against Horne because she has a sex tape of him with a prostitute that she's used to blackmail him into silence. And considering the connections the Inner Cicle supposedly has, this shouldn't even be an issue; if they can get Max off the hook for all his charges, surely they can make that tape go away]]. To put it another way: the entire plot of the first game only happens because Alfred Woden is a stupid pervert.
** In 3, [[spoiler: the Brancos are being murdered by the brother, Victor, for voter sympathy while bribing the police and other politicians with blood money from an organ trafficking ring.]] The thing is that Max had the potential to be a thorn in the side of this before the game even began [[spoiler: when a cruise ship he's on in Panama got raided by pirates looking for said blood money. He kills the pirates but shrugs off Passos and Marcelo being suspicious about a bag full of money.]] And even during the plot, there was no reason to [[spoiler: leave Rodrigo alone during an attack on his compound, which gets him killed by the very police he called in when they're alone and the tape of it stolen.]] And when he finally finds Fabiana, [[spoiler: he barges in through a front door despite having sighted enemies within through the windows, gets ambushed and forced to watch Fabiana (and later Marcelo) die horribly for his stupidity.]] Max's only excuse for any of this? [[TheAlcoholic Being drunk and dazed for a good majority of the plot]] [[DeathSeeker while horribly depressed enough to consistently dive into a fight without thinking whatsover.]]



* IdiotPlot: In 1, [[spoiler: Woden could have punctured Horne's entire criminal enterprise by mailing his evidence on the Valkyr project to multiple legal bodies and individuals. Instead he posts it to one woman. Who gets brutally murdered shortly there-after]]. It gets even dumber later in the game when you find out [[spoiler:the only reason Woden claims "[our] hands are tied" against Horne because she has a sex tape of him with a prostitute that she's used to blackmail him into silence. And considering the connections the Inner Circle supposedly has, this shouldn't even be an issue; if they can get Max off the hook for all his charges, surely they can make that tape go away]]. To put it another way: the entire plot of the first game only happens because Alfred Woden is a stupid pervert.
** In 3, [[spoiler: the Brancos are being murdered by the brother, Victor, for voter sympathy while bribing the police and other politicians with blood money from an organ trafficking ring.]] The thing is that Max had the potential to be a thorn in the side of this before the game even began [[spoiler: when a cruise ship he's on in Panama got raided by pirates looking for said blood money. He kills the pirates but shrugs off Passos and Marcelo being suspicious about a bag full of money.]] And even during the plot, there was no reason to [[spoiler: leave Rodrigo alone during an attack on his compound, which gets him killed by the very police he called in when they're alone and the tape of it stolen.]] And when he finally finds Fabiana, [[spoiler: he barges in through a front door despite having sighted enemies within through the windows, gets ambushed and forced to watch Fabiana (and later Marcelo) die horribly for his stupidity.]] Max's only excuse for any of this? [[TheAlcoholic Being drunk and dazed for a good majority of the plot]] [[DeathSeeker while horribly depressed enough to consistently dive into a fight without thinking whatsover.]]



* PolishedPort: While it has issues with Rockstar's Social Club system, the PC version of the third game was very well received for its customization options and how well optimized it was.



** The third game is also absolutely gorgeous - especially on PC - thanks in part to Rockstar's RAGE engine which has proved to provide [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV very]] [[VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption pretty looking]] [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV games]].
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