History YMMV / Maus

26th Jun '17 2:50:21 AM RatherRandomRachel
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* UnfortunateImplications:
** Several critics [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus#Academic_work_and_criticism argued]] that by portraying Jews and Germans as different species of animals, Spiegelman was accidentally reinforcing the Nazi beliefs about the Jews belonging to a different race.

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* UnfortunateImplications:
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UnfortunateImplications: Several critics [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus#Academic_work_and_criticism argued]] that by portraying Jews and Germans as different species of animals, Spiegelman was accidentally reinforcing the Nazi beliefs about the Jews belonging to a different race.
26th Jun '17 2:49:48 AM RatherRandomRachel
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%**Frogs represent the French in this comic book. [[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=frog 'Frog']] is also a racial slur against those of French descent.%
%**Similarly, some Poles did not take kindly to the comic. Why? Because to show that they are outside of the mouse-cat-dog power dynamic, Art Spiegelman drew them as ''pigs''.%

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%**Frogs %%**Frogs represent the French in this comic book. [[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=frog 'Frog']] is also a racial slur against those of French descent.%
%**Similarly,
descent.
%%**Similarly,
some Poles did not take kindly to the comic. Why? Because to show that they are outside of the mouse-cat-dog power dynamic, Art Spiegelman drew them as ''pigs''.%
26th Jun '17 2:49:11 AM RatherRandomRachel
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#** Frogs represent the French in this comic book. [[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=frog 'Frog']] is also a racial slur against those of French descent.
#** Similarly, some Poles did not take kindly to the comic. Why? Because to show that they are outside of the mouse-cat-dog power dynamic, Art Spiegelman drew them as ''pigs''.

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#** Frogs %**Frogs represent the French in this comic book. [[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=frog 'Frog']] is also a racial slur against those of French descent.
#** Similarly,
descent.%
%**Similarly,
some Poles did not take kindly to the comic. Why? Because to show that they are outside of the mouse-cat-dog power dynamic, Art Spiegelman drew them as ''pigs''.%
26th Jun '17 2:47:36 AM RatherRandomRachel
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** Frogs represent the French in this comic book. [[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=frog 'Frog']] is also a racial slur against those of French descent.
** Similarly, some Poles did not take kindly to the comic. Why? Because to show that they are outside of the mouse-cat-dog power dynamic, Art Spiegelman drew them as ''pigs''.

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** #** Frogs represent the French in this comic book. [[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=frog 'Frog']] is also a racial slur against those of French descent.
** #** Similarly, some Poles did not take kindly to the comic. Why? Because to show that they are outside of the mouse-cat-dog power dynamic, Art Spiegelman drew them as ''pigs''.
25th Jun '17 2:52:09 AM akanesarumara
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** Similarly, some Poles did not take kindly to the comic. Why? Because to show that they are outside of the mouse-cat-dog power dynamic, Art Spiegelman drew them as ''pigs''.
20th May '17 10:50:03 PM Fireblood
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* SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}: The family in Hanover that Vladek and Shimek meet after the war. They are given a warm welcome by the German Gentile wife, her Jewish husband whom she hid during the war, and their two children - cat-striped mice. Seeing this obviously loving German-Jewish family unit for a few brief panels is a welcome reprieve after two volumes of cruelty, and serves as a little bit of proof that the Nazi ideology, ultimately, didn't win ([[ArsonMurderAndLifeSaving Not to mention throwing cat-lovers a bone]]).
* JerkassWoobie: Vladek is the incarnation of this trope. He's extremely cheap, overbearing, racist and a lousy father. However, he did suffer through immense hardship. He lost his first son and his emotionally fragile wife apparently never recovered from the experience. He's spent decades pining for the family he had before the war. The point of Vladek is that he, with all his flaws, is powerfully human and not reducible and easily understandable. The fact that Vladek and his son can't bond meaningfully because of [[TheGenerationGap Generation Gap]] and trauma shows the real tragedy of the whole thing.

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* SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}: The family in Hanover that Vladek and Shimek meet after the war. They are given a warm welcome by the German Gentile gentile wife, her Jewish husband whom she hid during the war, and their two children - cat-striped mice. Seeing this obviously loving German-Jewish family unit for a few brief panels is a welcome reprieve after two volumes of cruelty, and serves as a little bit of proof that the Nazi ideology, ultimately, didn't win ([[ArsonMurderAndLifeSaving Not not to mention throwing cat-lovers a bone]]).
* JerkassWoobie: Vladek is the incarnation of this trope. He's extremely cheap, overbearing, racist and a lousy father. However, he did suffer through immense hardship. He lost his first son and his emotionally fragile wife apparently never recovered from the experience. He's spent decades pining for the family he had before the war. The point of Vladek is that he, with all his flaws, is powerfully human and not reducible and easily understandable. The fact that Vladek and his son can't bond meaningfully because of a [[TheGenerationGap Generation Gap]] generation gap]] and trauma shows the real tragedy of the whole thing.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Artwork and animals has gotten the comic book to sometimes be mistaken for a something for kids to read. Those kids will pay. Spiegelman expressed the same to Sendak.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Artwork and animals has gotten the comic book to sometimes be mistaken for a as something for kids to read. Those kids will pay. Spiegelman expressed the same to Sendak.
15th May '17 5:35:41 PM CrowTR0bot
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* SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}: The family in Hanover that Vladek and Shimek meet after the war. They are given a warm welcome by the German Gentile wife, her Jewish husband whom she hid during the war, and their two children - cat-striped mice. Seeing this obviously loving German-Jewish family unit for a few brief panels is a welcome reprieve after two volumes of cruelty, and serves as a little bit of proof that the Nazi ideology, ultimately, didn't win.

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* SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}: The family in Hanover that Vladek and Shimek meet after the war. They are given a warm welcome by the German Gentile wife, her Jewish husband whom she hid during the war, and their two children - cat-striped mice. Seeing this obviously loving German-Jewish family unit for a few brief panels is a welcome reprieve after two volumes of cruelty, and serves as a little bit of proof that the Nazi ideology, ultimately, didn't win.win ([[ArsonMurderAndLifeSaving Not to mention throwing cat-lovers a bone]]).
12th May '17 3:15:44 PM BatmanKalEl
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* JerkassWoobie: Vladek is the incarnation of this trope. He's extremely cheap, overbearing, racist and a lousy father. However, he did suffer through immense hardship. He lost his first son and his emotionally fragile wife apparently never recovered from the experience. He's spent decades pining for the family he had before the war. The point of Vladek is that he, with all his flaws, is powerfully human and not reducible and easily understandable. The fact that Vladek and his son can't bond meaningfully because of GenerationGap and trauma shows the real tragedy of the whole thing.

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* JerkassWoobie: Vladek is the incarnation of this trope. He's extremely cheap, overbearing, racist and a lousy father. However, he did suffer through immense hardship. He lost his first son and his emotionally fragile wife apparently never recovered from the experience. He's spent decades pining for the family he had before the war. The point of Vladek is that he, with all his flaws, is powerfully human and not reducible and easily understandable. The fact that Vladek and his son can't bond meaningfully because of GenerationGap [[TheGenerationGap Generation Gap]] and trauma shows the real tragedy of the whole thing.
27th Mar '17 8:59:32 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Is Mala an unreasonable harpy only out to get Vladek's money or a sympathetic character trying to cope with the miserly and demanding Vladek? Vladek certainly subscribes to the former, but Art (and most readers) drift toward the latter.

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** Is Mala an unreasonable harpy [[GoldDigger only out to get Vladek's money money]] or a sympathetic character trying to cope with the miserly and demanding Vladek? Vladek certainly subscribes to the former, but Art (and most readers) drift toward the latter.
3rd Dec '16 3:32:05 AM MarkyVigoroth
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* UnfortunateImplications: Several critics [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus#Academic_work_and_criticism argued]] that by portraying Jews and Germans as different species of animals, Spiegelman was accidentally reinforcing the Nazi beliefs about the Jews belonging to a different race.

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* UnfortunateImplications: UnfortunateImplications:
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Several critics [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus#Academic_work_and_criticism argued]] that by portraying Jews and Germans as different species of animals, Spiegelman was accidentally reinforcing the Nazi beliefs about the Jews belonging to a different race.race.
** Frogs represent the French in this comic book. [[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=frog 'Frog']] is also a racial slur against those of French descent.
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