History YMMV / MagicalGirllyricalNanoha

10th Oct '16 4:15:09 AM bleach246
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* GrowingTheBeard: Arguably gets considerably better and more interesting after the first three episodes and first sound stage.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Arguably gets considerably better and more interesting after the The first three episodes and / first sound stage.stage of the anime are arguably mostly standard MagicalGirl fare and while not awful aren't anything special either especially since the show is still finding it's roots and as such suffers from EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. Once [[BreakoutCharacter Fate]] is introduced and the mythology of the show starts to move more towards it's SpaceOpera [=/=] Franchise/{{Gundam}} roots the series becomes considerably more interesting and unique.
10th Oct '16 1:55:04 AM bleach246
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* HesJustHiding: More then a few fans don't buy that Precia just fell to her death at the end of the season and hope that she will return one day for some well deserved payback at the hands of Nanoha and Fate.



* TheWoobie: Fate. She just wants please her mother, but nothing she does over the course is ever good enough for her and she gets horribly abused no matter what she does. Towards the end of the series, even she finds that she was just an ArtificialHuman modeled after Precia's real daughter Alecia, and that Precia never thought of her as her daughter, she still tries to make amends with her.

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* TheWoobie: Fate. She just wants please her mother, but nothing she does over the course of the series is ever good enough for her and she gets horribly abused no matter what she does. Towards the end of the series, even after she finds that she was just an ArtificialHuman modeled after Precia's real daughter Alecia, and that Precia never thought of her as her daughter, she still tries to make amends with her.
26th Jun '16 9:44:35 AM KarrinBlue
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot/[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter Character]]: Think of the story potential if Precia had been a loving mother to Fate, despite grieving over Alicia and realizing Fate is different. Her demise would have had much more impact that way. Fate would have been forced to defeat her beloved mother in order to save millions of lives. Better still, Fate could even have been longing ''herself'' for Alicia's resurrection, so she could finally meet her "sister". Alas, the makers obviously wished for Precia to be a {{card carrying villain}}, so Fate could be presented as an innocent victim.
12th Jun '15 8:11:11 AM StFan
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!!![=YMMVs=] introduced by [[NanohaOriginal The Original Series]]:

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!!![=YMMVs=] introduced by [[NanohaOriginal [[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha The Original Series]]:
6th Apr '15 6:51:51 PM CJO123
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* {{Moe}}: Nanoha and Fate both fit this trope perfectly. In fact, Nanoha even won the 2005 Saimoe Tournament, and she eventually became the winning-est character in Saimoe history with a record 17 wins and only 4 losses.

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* {{Moe}}: Nanoha and Fate both fit this trope perfectly. In fact, Nanoha even won the 2005 Saimoe Tournament, and until recently she eventually became was the winning-est winningest character in Saimoe history with a record 17 wins and only 4 losses.history.
30th Mar '15 2:25:10 AM drac0blade
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fate, surpassing Nanoha herself in popularity and serving as TheLancer in subsequent series, with numerous hints dropped of her Nanoha being a couple.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fate, surpassing Nanoha herself in popularity and serving as TheLancer in subsequent series, with numerous hints dropped of her and Nanoha being a couple.
1st Sep '14 3:06:43 PM megazilla
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fate. While she as a significant character here, her popularity led to sticking around after the series with numerous hints dropped of her Nanoha being a couple.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fate. While she as a significant character here, her Fate, surpassing Nanoha herself in popularity led to sticking around after the series and serving as TheLancer in subsequent series, with numerous hints dropped of her Nanoha being a couple.
11th Jun '14 5:46:44 PM megazilla
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Fate. While she as a significant character here, her popularity led to sticking around after the series with numerous hints dropped of her Nanoha being a couple.
17th Apr '14 8:21:50 AM Dentaku
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot/[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter Character]]: Think of the story potential if Precia had been a loving mother to Fate, despite grieving over Alicia and realizing Fate is different, her demise would have had much more impact. Fate would have been forced to defeat her beloved mother in order to save millions of lives. Better still, Fate could even have been longing ''herself'' for Alicia's resurrection, so she could finally meet her "sister". Alas, the makers obviously wished for Precia to be a {{card carrying villain}}, so Fate could be presented as an innocent victim.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot/[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter Character]]: Think of the story potential if Precia had been a loving mother to Fate, despite grieving over Alicia and realizing Fate is different, her different. Her demise would have had much more impact.impact that way. Fate would have been forced to defeat her beloved mother in order to save millions of lives. Better still, Fate could even have been longing ''herself'' for Alicia's resurrection, so she could finally meet her "sister". Alas, the makers obviously wished for Precia to be a {{card carrying villain}}, so Fate could be presented as an innocent victim.
5th Mar '14 8:37:25 PM TVRulezAgain
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot/[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter Character]]: Think of the story potential if Precia had ''not'' been a {{complete monster}}. If she had been a loving mother to Fate, despite grieving over Alicia and realizing Fate is different, her demise would have had much more impact. Fate would have been forced to defeat her beloved mother in order to save millions of lives. Better still, Fate could even have been longing ''herself'' for Alicia's resurrection, so she could finally meet her "sister". Alas, the makers obviously wished for Precia to be a {{card carrying villain}}, so Fate could be presented as an innocent victim.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot/[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter Character]]: Think of the story potential if Precia had ''not'' been a {{complete monster}}. If she had been a loving mother to Fate, despite grieving over Alicia and realizing Fate is different, her demise would have had much more impact. Fate would have been forced to defeat her beloved mother in order to save millions of lives. Better still, Fate could even have been longing ''herself'' for Alicia's resurrection, so she could finally meet her "sister". Alas, the makers obviously wished for Precia to be a {{card carrying villain}}, so Fate could be presented as an innocent victim.
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