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** An early popularity poll, when some of the Inter-Middle participants were just introduced, has following characters in the top 10. Tenth is Erio, ninth is Corona, eighth is Caro, seventh is Lutecia, sixth is Nove, fifth is Rio, fourth is Einhart, third is Nanoha, second is Fate, and first is Vivio. It's impressive to see that Nanoha and Fate were still that popular (well, they ''are'' the original heroines), but for more impressive are Lutecia, Erio and Caro, who are above Subaru and Teana.
*** This poll was started at the time, when the the Takamachi family, Team Nakajima and the Forwards visited the Alpine family in Carnaaji.
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** An early popularity poll, when some only a few of the Inter-Middle participants were just introduced, has following characters in the top 10. Tenth is Erio, ninth is Corona, eighth is Caro, seventh is Lutecia, sixth is Nove, fifth is Rio, fourth is Einhart, third is Nanoha, second is Fate, and first is Vivio. It's impressive to see that Nanoha and Fate were still that popular (well, they ''are'' the original heroines), but for more impressive are Lutecia, Erio and Caro, who are above Subaru and Teana.
*** This poll was started at the time, whenthe the Takamachi family, Team Nakajima and the Forwards visited the Alpine family in Carnaaji.
*** This poll was started at the time, when
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Since most of the old main characters are DemotedToExtra in ''[=ViVid=]'', they can be considered as this.
** An early popularity poll, when some of the Inter-Middle participants were just introduced, has following characters in the top 10. Tenth is Erio, ninth is Corona, eighth is Caro, seventh is Lutecia, sixth is Nove, fifth is Rio, fourth is Einhart, third is Nanoha, second is Fate, and first is Vivio. It's impressive to see that Nanoha and Fate were still that popular (well, they ''are'' the original heroines), but for more impressive are Lutecia, Erio and Caro, who are above Subaru and Teana.
*** This poll was started at the time, when the the Takamachi family, Team Nakajima and the Forwards visited the Alpine family in Carnaaji.
** An early popularity poll, when some of the Inter-Middle participants were just introduced, has following characters in the top 10. Tenth is Erio, ninth is Corona, eighth is Caro, seventh is Lutecia, sixth is Nove, fifth is Rio, fourth is Einhart, third is Nanoha, second is Fate, and first is Vivio. It's impressive to see that Nanoha and Fate were still that popular (well, they ''are'' the original heroines), but for more impressive are Lutecia, Erio and Caro, who are above Subaru and Teana.
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* {{Moe}}: ''Nanoha'' always had a strong element of moe (before ''[[NanohaForce Force]]'' anyway), but ''[=ViVid=]'' really pushed it to new heights with characters making cutesy poses and winking at you every other page for no good reason whatsoever. Even twenty-something Nanoha and Fate are no exception. And looking only at the magazine posters and the artbooks you'll never guess it's a FightingSeries, and not some kind of {{ecchi}} manga revolving around {{cosplay}}ing, hot springs, beaches, and generally dressing little girls as inappropriately as possible.
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** Victoria and Sieglinde are rather... touchy-feely.
** Absolutely no one has missed that Vivio and Einhart are basically "Nanoha and Fate v2.0".
** Nanoha and Fate are raising Vivio together and living in the same house.
* MemeticMolester: Sein after her SkinshipGrope rampage in chapter 11.
** Victoria and Sieglinde are rather... touchy-feely.
** Absolutely no one has missed that Vivio and Einhart are basically "Nanoha and Fate v2.0".
** Nanoha and Fate are raising Vivio together and living in the same house.
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Sorry, Miura, but no matter how hard you fight there's no way the ''title character'' is going to go down in the first ro- ...wait, [[WhamEpisode what?!]]
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Vivio being a clone of the Sankt Kaiser isn't really explored, except for the connection with Einhart. There's no mention of how [[CloneJesus a clone of the central figure of their religion showing up]] affected the Saint Church.
** Also, it's mentioned at one point that the reason Vivio lacks many of the abilities she displayed in ''Anime/StrikerS'' is because her linker core was damaged during the battle on the Saint's Cradle. This could have been an interesting character exploration if we'd gotten to see Nanoha's reaction to having effectively magically maimed her daughter, but instead it serves solely as a blatant excuse to nerf Vivio so that she doesn't curb-stomp the other girls in the tournament arc.
*** [[{{Irony}} Which doesn't stop the new girls from doing the same to her]].
* {{Unfortunate Implications}}: for being a manga so focused on family and friends we haven't seen Einhart's family at all implying they're dead or there is more to Einhart than we know
** Einhart says in Chapter 9 that she has always been on her own, so there's likely ''some'' kind of ParentalAbandonment going on.
** Also, it's mentioned at one point that the reason Vivio lacks many of the abilities she displayed in ''Anime/StrikerS'' is because her linker core was damaged during the battle on the Saint's Cradle. This could have been an interesting character exploration if we'd gotten to see Nanoha's reaction to having effectively magically maimed her daughter, but instead it serves solely as a blatant excuse to nerf Vivio so that she doesn't curb-stomp the other girls in the tournament arc.
*** [[{{Irony}} Which doesn't stop the new girls from doing the same to her]].
* {{Unfortunate Implications}}: for being a manga so focused on family and friends we haven't seen Einhart's family at all implying they're dead or there is more to Einhart than we know
** Einhart says in Chapter 9 that she has always been on her own, so there's likely ''some'' kind of ParentalAbandonment going on.
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** Also, it's mentioned at one point that the reason Vivio lacks many of the abilities she displayed in''Anime/StrikerS'' ''Anime/{{StrikerS}}'' is because her linker core was damaged during the battle on the Saint's Cradle. This could have been an interesting character exploration if we'd gotten to see Nanoha's reaction to having effectively magically maimed her daughter, but instead it serves solely as a blatant excuse to nerf Vivio so that she doesn't curb-stomp curb stomp the other girls in the tournament arc.
*** [[{{Irony}} Which doesn't stop the new girls from doing the same to her]].
* {{Unfortunate Implications}}: for UnfortunateImplications: For being a manga so focused on family and friends we haven't seen Einhart's family at all implying they're dead friends, no one seems to notice or there is more to care that 12 year old Einhart than we know
** Einhart sayslives alone and in Chapter 9 that she her own words has always been on her own, so there's likely ''some'' kind of ParentalAbandonment going on.by herself.
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** Considering shes based on Fate the character this is probably intentional
* {{Unfortunate Implications}}: for being a manga so focused on family and friends we haven't seen Einhart's family at all implying they're dead or there is more to Einhart than we know
** Considering shes based on Fate the character this is probably intentional
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* SlidingScaleOfFreeWillVsFate: So Einhart. Did you learn fighting and becoming friends with Vivio because it was your choice, or is it force on you due to your ancestor decided to cause {{GeneticMemory}} on his descendants and is only with her so that you can stop having the same nightmare ever night?
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* SlidingScaleOfFreeWillVsFate: So Einhart. Did you she learn fighting and becoming friends with Vivio because it was your her choice, or is it force on you her due to your her ancestor decided to cause {{GeneticMemory}} on his descendants and it is the only with her so that you can way to stop having the same nightmare ever night?
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* SlidingScaleOfFreeWillVsFate: So Einhart. Did you learn fighting and becoming friends with Vivio because it was your choice, or is it force on you due to your ancestor decided to cause {{GeneticMemory}} on his descendants and is only with her so that you can stop having the same nightmare ever night?
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