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** As problematic as "Devil Take The Hindmost" is plot/character wise...it's got a brilliant use of counterpoint and some nice staging.
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** Poor Meg. While [[spoiler:kidnapping and threatening Gustav]] was too far, it's very clear that this is a case of MistreatedInducedBetrayal. After all, she and her mother smuggled him out of France, helped him put together Phantasma, her mother helps run it while she's their leading lady, and she's been convinced by her mother to sleep with people of influence to secure money and legal aid for the sake of keeping Phantasma open. All she wants in return is the Phantom's love, but he harshly rebukes her when she tries to approach him and has never even watched her perform despite constant pleading from her, because he's too hung up on Christine to pay her any mind.
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** Poor Meg. While [[spoiler:kidnapping and threatening Gustav]] was too far, it's very clear that this is a case of MistreatedInducedBetrayal.MistreatmentInducedBetrayal. After all, she and her mother smuggled him out of France, helped him put together Phantasma, her mother helps run it while she's their leading lady, and she's been convinced by her mother to sleep with people of influence to secure money and legal aid for the sake of keeping Phantasma open. All she wants in return is the Phantom's love, but he harshly rebukes her when she tries to approach him and has never even watched her perform despite constant pleading from her, because he's too hung up on Christine to pay her any mind.
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** The Phantom. Just think of it: we're all supposed to cry on him and his doomed love, and [[spoiler:that Christine is dead just at the moment they were going to be happy together,]] but in the end, [[spoiler:he's actually the winner: Raoul's entire life is destroyed, Madame Giry is caught with a crazy daughter, and the Phantom gets to keep Gustave...]] How is this supposed to be his tragedy? Especially when you know that all the crap happening is actually all his fault, just because he refused to stop clinging to a woman he can never have.
** Christine could also qualify for this. It's easy to assume she shares a lot of responsibility for her marriage going all wrong because it's obvious she kept on pining for the Phantom. And how can you just cry on all her problems, when [[spoiler:she actually does nothing to help herself, since you have the Phantom and Raoul all deciding for her, she stays incredibly passive when Erik ''threatens the life of her child.'']]
* DesignatedVillain: Raoul and Meg. If you think about it, the reason why they act terribly is certainly due to [[Main/DesignatedHero Designated Heroes]] Erik and Christine's behaviours towards them.
** Christine could also qualify for this. It's easy to assume she shares a lot of responsibility for her marriage going all wrong because it's obvious she kept on pining for the Phantom. And how can you just cry on all her problems, when [[spoiler:she actually does nothing to help herself, since you have the Phantom and Raoul all deciding for her, she stays incredibly passive when Erik ''threatens the life of her child.'']]
* DesignatedVillain: Raoul and Meg. If you think about it, the reason why they act terribly is certainly due to [[Main/DesignatedHero Designated Heroes]] Erik and Christine's behaviours towards them.
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** The Phantom. Just think of it: we're all We're supposed to cry on feel sorry for him and his doomed love, and [[spoiler:that Christine is dead just as StarCrossedLovers, and at the moment it seems they were going to can finally be happy together,]] but together [[spoiler:Christine dies in the end, [[spoiler:he's actually the winner: Raoul's entire life is destroyed, Madame Giry is caught with a crazy daughter, and his arms]]. However, the Phantom gets has spent ten years pining for Christine and essentially tricks her into coming to keep Gustave...]] How is this supposed to be America and performing for him, he shows no appreciation for the Girys in spite of the fact they're the ones who helped him escape France and have been keeping his tragedy? Especially when you know that all business afloat, and even threatens the crap happening life of Christine's son until [[spoiler:he learns the boy is actually all his]]. Not to mention that in the original musical, he killed people, abducted Christine, and was prepared to kill Raoul, too. Exactly why should audiences root for him? [[spoiler:And in the end he comes out a winner anyway, as Gustav accepts him as his fault, just because he refused to stop clinging to a woman he can never have.
father, deformities and all, and Christine and him reaffirm their love before she dies]].
** Christinecould also qualify for this. It's easy to assume she shares is a lot of responsibility for her lesser example. Her marriage going all wrong because it's obvious she kept on is falling apart, but a major contributing factor to that is that she's been pining for the Phantom all these years despite marrying Raoul and having a child with him, and in some productions it's implied her career is in decline because she doesn't perform much out of missing the Phantom. And how can you just cry on all her problems, There's also the fact that [[spoiler:she's lied to Raoul about Gustav being his son when [[spoiler:she actually she knows he's truly the Phantom's]]. During the show she does nothing to help herself, since you have improve her current circumstances on her own, the Phantom and Raoul all deciding plotting behind her back is what moves things along, and she [[spoiler:only performs again to affirm her love for her, she stays incredibly passive when Erik ''threatens the life of Phantom, not to save her child.'']]
career or help her family out of their debts.]]
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** Raoul. He ''is'' a drunk and a gambler who has squandered his family's money, and he's neglectful to Gustav. But at the least he recognizes he's a failure as a husband and a father who doesn't deserve her love and desperately wishes he could be better for her. Add in Christine pining for the Phantom and the possibility that Raoul secretly knows (or at least suspects) [[spoiler:Gustav isn't really his son]], and it's not hard to understand how he could fall into depression and substance abuse. [[spoiler:And when he finally seems to be ready to try and save their marriage once the Phantom enters the picture, Christine rejects him and chooses the Phantom.]]
** Poor Meg.If you think about it, While [[spoiler:kidnapping and threatening Gustav]] was too far, it's very clear that this is a case of MistreatedInducedBetrayal. After all, she and her mother smuggled him out of France, helped him put together Phantasma, her mother helps run it while she's their leading lady, and she's been convinced by her mother to sleep with people of influence to secure money and legal aid for the reason why they act terribly sake of keeping Phantasma open. All she wants in return is certainly due the Phantom's love, but he harshly rebukes her when she tries to [[Main/DesignatedHero Designated Heroes]] Erik approach him and Christine's behaviours towards them. has never even watched her perform despite constant pleading from her, because he's too hung up on Christine to pay her any mind.
** Christine
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** Raoul. He ''is'' a drunk and a gambler who has squandered his family's money, and he's neglectful to Gustav. But at the least he recognizes he's a failure as a husband and a father who doesn't deserve her love and desperately wishes he could be better for her. Add in Christine pining for the Phantom and the possibility that Raoul secretly knows (or at least suspects) [[spoiler:Gustav isn't really his son]], and it's not hard to understand how he could fall into depression and substance abuse. [[spoiler:And when he finally seems to be ready to try and save their marriage once the Phantom enters the picture, Christine rejects him and chooses the Phantom.]]
** Poor Meg.
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** Let's face it, the Phantom getting a {{Yandere}} of his own had all sorts of potential. This could have lead to a [[HeelRealization further perspective]] about his actions in the previous show, or been a much more prominent threat overall. Instead [[spoiler:the Phantom and Meg only appear onstage together at the very end as part of a SuddenDownerEnding.]]]
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** Let's face it, the Phantom getting a {{Yandere}} of his own had all sorts of potential. This could have lead to a [[HeelRealization further perspective]] about his actions in the previous show, or been a much more prominent threat overall. Instead [[spoiler:the Phantom and Meg only appear onstage together at the very end as part of a SuddenDownerEnding.]]]]]
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** Let's face it, the Phantom getting a {{Yandere}} of his own had all sorts of potential. This could have lead to a [[HeelRealization further perspective]] about his actions in the previous show, or been a much more prominent threat overall. Instead [[spoiler:the Phantom and Meg only appear onstage together at the very end as part of a SuddenDownerEnding.]]]
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: In a lot of respects, the most common criticisms of ''Love Never Dies'' were all around in the original musical. It's just that these issues weren't quite as significant as they would become. The Phantom, for instance, went from having his existing sympathetic elements and EvilIsSexy aspects played up while still mostly remaining a TragicMonster, to being basically lionized as a long-suffering martyr who deserves the world even as he ruins the lives of everyone around him.
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: In a lot of respects, the most common criticisms of ''Love Never Dies'' were all around in the original musical. It's just that these issues weren't quite as significant as they would become. The Phantom, for instance, went from having his existing sympathetic elements and EvilIsSexy aspects played up while still mostly remaining a TragicMonster, to being basically lionized as a long-suffering martyr who deserves the world even as he ruins the lives of everyone around him.
