History YMMV / Lost

6th Feb '17 5:59:23 AM Mister6
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** The source from "Across the Sea" looks like a bad ''photoshop''.



** Locke. Name a time in his life. Go on, any time. If he isn't miserable, he's [[HopeSpot finally found something great that makes him happy.]] It won't last. It won't end well.[[FromBadToWorse And it just keeps getting worse.]]

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** Locke. Name a time in his life. Go on, any time. If he isn't miserable, he's [[HopeSpot finally found something great that makes him happy.]] It won't last. It won't end well. [[FromBadToWorse And it just keeps getting worse.]]
27th Jan '17 7:33:26 AM rafi
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: By the same coin, Jacob can come across as this. When discussing the episode as part of the web series "Totally Lost", [[WordOfGod Mark Pellegrino basically admits that Jacob knew sending his brother into the cave would have dire ramifications for his brother's well-being. But he did not care, as he wanted revenge for the death of their mother and since he could not kill him (and had been given vague warning that going into the cave would have dire consequences from his mom), he chose the next best thing to harm his brother and permanently trap him on the island.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: By the same coin, Jacob can come across as this. When discussing the episode as part of the web series "Totally Lost", [[WordOfGod Mark Pellegrino Pellegrino]] basically admits that Jacob knew sending his brother into the cave would have dire ramifications for his brother's well-being. But he did not care, as he wanted revenge for the death of their mother and since he could not kill him (and had been given vague warning that going into the cave would have dire consequences from his mom), he chose the next best thing to harm his brother and permanently trap him on the island.]]



** Benjamin as a child.

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** Benjamin Locke. Name a time in his life. Go on, any time. If he isn't miserable, he's [[HopeSpot finally found something great that makes him happy.]] It won't last. It won't end well.[[FromBadToWorse And it just keeps getting worse.]]
** Hurley. The butt of many of Sawyer's fat jokes, has incredibly bad luck and possible mental instability. But the worst times were during season 2 when [[spoiler: Libby, the only girl on island to reciprocate love toward him, is shot by Micheal and euthanized by being given heroin.]] Again, in Season 3 [[spoiler: best friend Charlie dies]] which makes the Season 4 opener much more bittersweet when he canonballs. Also the entire Season 4 opener flash-forwards.
** {{Flashback}}s to [[spoiler: Ben]]'s childhood deserve special mention: [[spoiler: [[DeathByChildbirth a dead mother]], an abusive alcoholic father,]] and a lonely childhood all add up to a pretty sad life. It makes [[MagnificentBastard what he becomes]] all the more awesome, (if still kind of creepy). His emotional speech to [[spoiler: Jacob]] asking "What about ''me''?" helps- only to be replied with "What ''about'' you?" What Locke says about how his years of devoted service were rewarded with him getting cancer, having to watch his daughter murdered, and then being exiled from the island. He gets beat up a lot on the show, too, to the point where you can't help but feel sorry for him.
** Daniel Faraday is probably one of the woobiest characters on the show, especially when [[spoiler: [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Charlotte dies in his arms]]]], and later on when he gets [[spoiler: shot by his own mother]].
** Charlie Pace has his moments too. Thankfully, he also has some moments of real lightness and joy, which either balance it out or make it worse.
%%** Richard.
** The Man in Black was pretty Woobie before he got all smoke-ified. [[spoiler: His mom landed on the island and gave birth to him and his brother Jacob. Mom is then promptly killed by a woman on the island, who takes [=MiB=] and Jacob and raises them
as her own children, never telling them about their real mother, so they could take her place as protectors of the island. Then [=MiB=] gets a child.vision of his birth mother and tries to get his brother to run away with him to a tribe of men on the other side of the island, and Jacob refuses after beating the crap out of him. So [=MiB=] runs away and only sees his brother every once in a while for the next thirty years. In that time he's been building a way to get off the damn island, which is all he's ever really wanted. Fake!Mom shows up and, after luring him into a false sense of security by hugging him and telling him she's sorry, knocks him out, destroys his machine, and kills every single one of the people he lived with for the past thirty years. He finds his Fake!Mom and kills her in a fit of revenge, immediately regrets it, and then Jacob finds him and beats him up (again) and drags him through the forest to the heart of the island. Jacob tosses him in, dooming him to a fate worse than death. All this because the poor kid just wanted to go home.]]
13th Jan '17 8:08:19 AM rafi
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: [[Funny/{{Lost}} Have their own page.]]



* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: [[Heartwarming/{{Lost}} Have their own page.]]
13th Jan '17 8:07:49 AM rafi
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: [[Awesome/{{Lost}} Has its own page.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:The Man in Black tricking the main characters into activating his timebomb]], resulting in the deaths of [[spoiler:Jin, Sun and Sayid]].

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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: [[Awesome/{{Lost}} Has its own page.]]
* MoralEventHorizon:
MoralEventHorizon:
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[[spoiler:The Man in Black tricking the main characters into activating his timebomb]], resulting in the deaths of [[spoiler:Jin, Sun and Sayid]].



* NarmCharm: One would argue that Michael's repeated shoutings of "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT!", given their justification, come off less narmful than anybody else in the same situation.
** Granted his son has gone missing at the time, but it's the ten thousand other "WAAAAAALT!" moments throughout the first season, when Walt is only ten feet away is the reason it comes across as so narmful. There is being a PapaWolf and there is being simply ''annoying''.

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* NarmCharm: NarmCharm:
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One would argue that Michael's repeated shoutings of "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT!", given their justification, come off less narmful than anybody else in the same situation.
** *** Granted his son has gone missing at the time, but it's the ten thousand other "WAAAAAALT!" moments throughout the first season, when Walt is only ten feet away is the reason it comes across as so narmful. There is being a PapaWolf and there is being simply ''annoying''.



* NightmareFuel: [[NightmareFuel/{{Lost}} Has its own page.]]



* TearJerker: [[TearJerker/{{Lost}} Has its own page.]]
13th Jan '17 8:04:39 AM rafi
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* MagnificentBastard: Ben, [[spoiler:Jacob and the Man in Black]].
** Also in a flash-sideways, Ben gets out-magnificent-bastarded (!) by the principal of the high school where he works.

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* MagnificentBastard: Ben, [[spoiler:Jacob MagnificentBastard:
** Benjamin Linus is notorious for being a magnificent bastard. His entire character revolves around manipulating others into doing his bidding, constantly lying,
and emotional blackmail. He gets through five seasons this way, sometimes allying with the heroes, sometimes opposing them, but always coming out ahead.
** This trope also belongs to [[spoiler:
the Man in Black]].
** Also in a flash-sideways, Ben gets out-magnificent-bastarded (!) by the principal
Black]]. Manipulative Bastard? Check. And as [[spoiler: The Candidate]] shows, he is [[GambitRoulette one hell]] of the high school where a Chessmaster ([[spoiler: even if it didn't work fully, it was still a badass plan that KILLED 3 MAJOR CHARACTERS!]]). The way he works.[[spoiler: manipulated Ben]] to [[spoiler: kill Jacob]] was just classic. Jacob himself also counts.
7th Dec '16 7:35:33 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: This show is probably the poster child for this trope, and it can be applied to pretty much every character with explicit grounding in the show's {{subtext}}. Keep in mind, these are just some of the ''major'' ones:

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: This show is probably the poster child for this trope, and it can be applied to pretty much every character with explicit grounding in the show's {{subtext}}. Keep in mind, these are just some of the ''major'' ones:
19th Nov '16 7:45:23 AM SunriseWarrior
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* RomanticPlotTumor: The Jack/Kate/Sawyer love triangle took up significant story time. ecame especially grating when the series committed to a definite endpoint, and every second spent on this was one less second that could have been used clearing up the show's numerous mysteries and dangling plot-threads. Also because the writers proved that they could write relationship arcs that are well done and popular among the fans (see: Desmond & Penny)...yet suddenly they couldn't do the same with the main one. This is taken to insane levels in the Season 5 finale, where Jack wants to erase the entire timeline by blowing up a nuclear bomb... because his relationship with Kate didn't work out. He doesn't seem to realize that this would mean they'd never meet in the first place! Juliet was also added to this romantic plot tumor. Additionally, Juliet suddenly changed her mind about detonating that hydrogen bomb because she thought that her relationship with Sawyer might end because Kate came back to the island. Really, the way Kate, Juliet, Sawyer, and Jack felt about detonating that hydrogen bomb was extremely arbitrary and depended entirely on how they felt about their role in this love polygon from hell at a given moment.

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* RomanticPlotTumor: The Jack/Kate/Sawyer love triangle took up significant story time. ecame Became especially grating when the series committed to a definite endpoint, and every second spent on this was one less second that could have been used clearing up the show's numerous mysteries and dangling plot-threads. Also because the writers proved that they could write relationship arcs that are well done and popular among the fans (see: Desmond & Penny)...yet suddenly they couldn't do the same with the main one. This is taken to insane levels in the Season 5 finale, where Jack wants to erase the entire timeline by blowing up a nuclear bomb... because his relationship with Kate didn't work out. He doesn't seem to realize that this would mean they'd never meet in the first place! Juliet was also added to this romantic plot tumor. Additionally, Juliet suddenly changed her mind about detonating that hydrogen bomb because she thought that her relationship with Sawyer might end because Kate came back to the island. Really, the way Kate, Juliet, Sawyer, and Jack felt about detonating that hydrogen bomb was extremely arbitrary and depended entirely on how they felt about their role in this love polygon from hell at a given moment.
14th Nov '16 12:21:08 PM rafi
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* BadassDecay: Played with in Locke's case. He goes back and forth from awesome to pathetic so many times that this duality has basically become one of his main character traits.

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* BadassDecay: BadassDecay:
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Played with in Locke's case. He goes back and forth from awesome to pathetic so many times that this duality has basically become one of his main character traits.



** The Others. What started as a mysterious group of rogue jungle ninjas was soon revealed to be little more than a bunch of [[spoiler: commune dwelling nobodies that played football and had a flare for the dramatic]]. Although shining the spotlight on anything scary will quickly reveal that it's just a branch scratching against a window.



* RomanticPlotTumor: The Jack/Kate/Sawyer love triangle took up significant story time.

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* RomanticPlotTumor: The Jack/Kate/Sawyer love triangle took up significant story time. ecame especially grating when the series committed to a definite endpoint, and every second spent on this was one less second that could have been used clearing up the show's numerous mysteries and dangling plot-threads. Also because the writers proved that they could write relationship arcs that are well done and popular among the fans (see: Desmond & Penny)...yet suddenly they couldn't do the same with the main one. This is taken to insane levels in the Season 5 finale, where Jack wants to erase the entire timeline by blowing up a nuclear bomb... because his relationship with Kate didn't work out. He doesn't seem to realize that this would mean they'd never meet in the first place! Juliet was also added to this romantic plot tumor. Additionally, Juliet suddenly changed her mind about detonating that hydrogen bomb because she thought that her relationship with Sawyer might end because Kate came back to the island. Really, the way Kate, Juliet, Sawyer, and Jack felt about detonating that hydrogen bomb was extremely arbitrary and depended entirely on how they felt about their role in this love polygon from hell at a given moment.
11th Nov '16 7:32:48 AM rafi
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** Nikki and Paulo. They are really hated, but [[to be buried alive (and for mistake because the Losties think they're dead after being paralyzed by a poison) is a scary fate]].

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** Nikki and Paulo. They are really hated, but [[to [[spoiler: to be buried alive (and for mistake because the Losties think they're dead after being paralyzed by a poison) is a scary fate]].
11th Nov '16 7:32:32 AM rafi
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** Nikki and Paulo.
** Also Shannon to those who still considered her a Scrappy by the time of [[spoiler: her death.]]

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** Nikki and Paulo. They are really hated, but [[to be buried alive (and for mistake because the Losties think they're dead after being paralyzed by a poison) is a scary fate]].
** Also Shannon to those who still considered her a Scrappy by Scrappy. Just when she starts becoming a compelling character and not the time of vapid RichBitch, as well as we get to learn how much her EvilMatriarch stepmother crashed her dreams...[[spoiler: her death.]]boom, shot in the stomach]].
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