History YMMV / LawAndOrder

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** Sammy Mireles from "Smoke". His parents ''sold'' his innocence away to a pedophile because the said pedophile offered them money.
1st Apr '17 12:31:32 PM creader
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** Typically, the show wants you to sympathize with the victims, the Law, or the Order, but they sometimes make even the defendant a woobie. One particularly tragic story is that of a psychotic who refuses his medication, even though he gets violent. It's revealed that the side effects make it incredibly difficult for him to function, and because of his illness he wasn't able to pursue any work, let alone his dream career. He'd contemplated and pursued suicide when he realized that. He stopped taking his medication after his sister testified to that. He agrees to take a plea (strict monitoring for the rest of his life to make sure he takes his meds or stays in a hospital), and breaks down into renewed psychosis is a TearJerker. Everyone in the courtroom acts their little hearts out, showing dawning realization and varying degrees of regret and horror.
** Jack and Claire's relationship was dealt with with a very light touch, but it became the focus of an episode [[spoiler:after Claire's death]]. Jack is trying a drunk driver and conspires with the judge to charge him with murder, with everyone around him stepping lightly. Finally, Jack pushes the defendant to a breakdown on the stand. Jack, in a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment, relents and reveals the evidence that the man was blind drunk (and earning an enemy in the judge, who had political aspirations).



** The mother, Denis Winters, from "Mushrooms" [[note]]The same woman who would go on to be known as Lt. Van Buren.[[/note]]. While Ms. Winters was out working, her home was shot at -- injuring her elder child (to the point he became a paraplegic) and killing her ''infant son''. At one point she mentions her supervisor saying that [[KickTheDog seeing her paraplegic son and planning the funeral for her baby was considered "personal time".]] But the real sad and horrifying part comes from the ''why'' her house was shot up -- The 14-year-old who did it was at the ''wrong'' house. He was sent to kill a crooked real estate man by another drug dealer because the former cheated the latter. But the 14-year-old couldn't read and thus mixed up the address which led to shooting at her house. This woman needs a hug.
** Jack and Claire's relationship was dealt with with a very light touch, but it became the focus of an episode [[spoiler:after Claire's death]]. Jack is trying a drunk driver and conspires with the judge to charge him with murder, with everyone around him stepping lightly. Finally, Jack pushes the defendant to a breakdown on the stand. Jack, in a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment, relents and reveals the evidence that the man was blind drunk (and earning an enemy in the judge, who had political aspirations).
** Typically, the show wants you to sympathize with the victims, the Law, or the Order, but they sometimes make even the defendant a woobie. One particularly tragic story is that of a psychotic who refuses his medication, even though he gets violent. It's revealed that the side effects make it incredibly difficult for him to function, and because of his illness he wasn't able to pursue any work, let alone his dream career. He'd contemplated and pursued suicide when he realized that. He stopped taking his medication after his sister testified to that. He agrees to take a plea (strict monitoring for the rest of his life to make sure he takes his meds or stays in a hospital), and breaks down into renewed psychosis is a TearJerker. Everyone in the courtroom acts their little hearts out, showing dawning realization and varying degrees of regret and horror.

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** The mother, Denis Winters, Winters from "Mushrooms" [[note]]The same woman who would go on to be known as Lt. Van Buren.[[/note]]. While Ms. Winters was out working, her home was shot at -- injuring her elder child (to the point he became a paraplegic) and killing her ''infant son''. At one point she mentions her supervisor saying that [[KickTheDog seeing her paraplegic son and planning the funeral for her baby was considered "personal time".]] But the real sad and horrifying part comes from the ''why'' her house was shot up -- The 14-year-old who did it was at the ''wrong'' house. He was sent to kill a crooked real estate man by another drug dealer because the former cheated the latter. But the 14-year-old couldn't read and thus mixed up the address which led to shooting at her house. This woman needs a hug.
** Jack [[FragileFlower Judith Sandler]], a witness [[spoiler: and Claire's relationship was dealt with with a very light touch, but it became the focus doer]] from "Survivor". Already being the daughter of an episode [[spoiler:after Claire's death]]. Jack is trying a drunk driver [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust Holocaust]] survivors and conspires with being traumatized by what her parents went through, which affected her upbringing and being afraid of the judge to charge him with murder, with everyone world around him stepping lightly. Finally, Jack pushes the defendant her, she helped to a breakdown carry on the stand. Jack, in a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment, relents and reveals the evidence pursuit of her father's lost possessions before going he was captured years earlier... [[spoiler: only to discover that a foreign billionaire had already sold the man was blind drunk (and earning an enemy in the judge, who had political aspirations).
** Typically, the show wants you to sympathize with the victims, the Law, or the Order, but they sometimes make even the defendant a woobie. One particularly tragic story is
father's things and that of a psychotic she had killed the victim, who refuses his medication, even though he gets violent. It's revealed that the side effects make it incredibly difficult she thought was withholding knowledge about them, for him to function, and because of his illness he wasn't able to pursue any work, let alone his dream career. He'd contemplated and pursued suicide when he realized that. He stopped taking his medication after his sister testified to that. He agrees to take a plea (strict monitoring for the rest of his life to make sure he takes his meds or stays in a hospital), and breaks down into renewed psychosis is a TearJerker. Everyone in the courtroom acts their little hearts out, showing dawning realization and varying degrees of regret and horror.nothing.]]



** Kevin Drucker from "Life Line". He killed an innocent reporter. Why? Because a violent gang didn't like her snooping in on them and the very same gang were threatening to kill his son from the same jail they were in. Throughout his trial, he doesn't even let his attorney defend him and even states that he died the moment he killed the young reporter.



** [[FragileFlower Judith Sandler]], a witness [[spoiler: and the doer]] from "Survivor". Already being the daughter of [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust Holocaust]] survivors and being traumatized by what her parents went through, which affected her upbringing and being afraid of the world around her, she helped to carry on the pursuit of her father's lost possessions before going he was captured years earlier... [[spoiler: only to discover that a foreign billionaire had already sold the father's things and that she had killed the victim, who she thought was withholding knowledge about them, for nothing.]]
19th Mar '17 12:34:07 PM Unknown1981
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** At the end of "Kids" Lennie's old friend (who [[spoiler: had the gun dealer threatening his son killed]]) asks Lennie "what if it was one of your kids?" Lennie replies that he doesn't know what he'd do. He'd find out for himself four seasons later...
15th Mar '17 3:16:03 PM randomtroper89
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Benjamin "Bud" Greer (who was played by future ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' star Courtney B. Vance) from the episode "Rage", which [[RippedFromTheHeadlines the basis of the story is taken from]] the Long Island Subway killer, Colin Ferguson[[note]] not the [[MrFanservice Maytag man[[/note]]]]. His character was this because he was [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer unfairly rejected]] in both Black and White society for as long as he remembered and his victim [[MeanBoss boss]] was a [[AssholeVictim unlikable, money-hungry racist jerkass]] who it was difficult to care about, unlike Ferguson who slaughtered random people.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Benjamin "Bud" Greer (who was played by future ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' star Courtney B. Vance) from the episode "Rage", which [[RippedFromTheHeadlines the basis of the story is taken from]] the Long Island Subway killer, Colin Ferguson[[note]] not the [[MrFanservice Maytag man[[/note]]]].Ferguson. His character was this because he was [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer unfairly rejected]] in both Black and White society for as long as he remembered and his victim [[MeanBoss boss]] was a [[AssholeVictim unlikable, money-hungry racist jerkass]] who it was difficult to care about, unlike Ferguson who slaughtered random people.
15th Mar '17 3:13:51 PM randomtroper89
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Benjamin "Bud" Greer (who was played by future ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' star Courtney B. Vance) from the episode "Rage", which [[RippedFromTheHeadlines the basis of the story is taken from]] the Long Island Subway killer, Colin Ferguson[[note]] not the [[MrFanservice Maytag man[[/note]]]]. His character was this because he was [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer unfairly rejected]] in both Black and White society for as long as he remembered and his victim, unlike Ferguson who slaughtered random people, [[MeanBoss boss,]] was just a [[AssholeVictim unlikable, money-hungry racist jerkass]] who it was difficult to care about.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Benjamin "Bud" Greer (who was played by future ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' star Courtney B. Vance) from the episode "Rage", which [[RippedFromTheHeadlines the basis of the story is taken from]] the Long Island Subway killer, Colin Ferguson[[note]] not the [[MrFanservice Maytag man[[/note]]]]. His character was this because he was [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer unfairly rejected]] in both Black and White society for as long as he remembered and his victim, unlike Ferguson who slaughtered random people, victim [[MeanBoss boss,]] boss]] was just a [[AssholeVictim unlikable, money-hungry racist jerkass]] who it was difficult to care about.about, unlike Ferguson who slaughtered random people.
15th Mar '17 3:08:12 PM randomtroper89
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Benjamin "Bud" Greer (who was played by future ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' star Courtney B. Vance) from the episode "Rage", which [[RippedFromTheHeadlines the basis of the story is taken from]] the Long Island Subway killer, Colin Ferguson[[note]] not the [[MrFanservice Maytag man[[/note]]]]). His character was this because he was [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer unfairly rejected]] in both Black and White society for as long as he remembered and his victim, unlike Ferguson who slaughtered random people, [[MeanBoss boss,]] was just a [[AssholeVictim unlikable, money-hungry racist jerkass]] who it was difficult to care about.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Benjamin "Bud" Greer (who was played by future ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' star Courtney B. Vance) from the episode "Rage", which [[RippedFromTheHeadlines the basis of the story is taken from]] the Long Island Subway killer, Colin Ferguson[[note]] not the [[MrFanservice Maytag man[[/note]]]]). man[[/note]]]]. His character was this because he was [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer unfairly rejected]] in both Black and White society for as long as he remembered and his victim, unlike Ferguson who slaughtered random people, people, [[MeanBoss boss,]] was just a [[AssholeVictim unlikable, money-hungry racist jerkass]] who it was difficult to care about.
15th Mar '17 3:07:32 PM randomtroper89
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Bud Greer (who was played by future ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' star Courtney B. Vance) from the episode "Rage". Although [[RippedFromTheHeadlines the basis of the story is taken from]] the very ''un''sympathetic Long Island Subway killer, Colin Ferguson (no, not the [[MrFanservice Maytag man]]), his character was this because he was [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer unfairly rejected]] in both Black ''and'' White society for as long as he remembered and his victim, his [[MeanBoss boss,]] was just a [[AssholeVictim unlikable, money-hungry racist jerkass]] who it was difficult to care about.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Bud Benjamin "Bud" Greer (who was played by future ''Series/LawAndOrderCriminalIntent'' star Courtney B. Vance) from the episode "Rage". Although "Rage", which [[RippedFromTheHeadlines the basis of the story is taken from]] the very ''un''sympathetic Long Island Subway killer, Colin Ferguson (no, Ferguson[[note]] not the [[MrFanservice Maytag man]]), his man[[/note]]]]). His character was this because he was [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer unfairly rejected]] in both Black ''and'' and White society for as long as he remembered and his victim, his unlike Ferguson who slaughtered random people, [[MeanBoss boss,]] was just a [[AssholeVictim unlikable, money-hungry racist jerkass]] who it was difficult to care about.
10th Feb '17 6:48:52 PM creader
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** Jamie Yost from "Executioner". His only son and grandchild were brutally murdered by a crazy killer who was supposed to die on his death sentence. Instead, there was a problem with the injection site and the killer became a ''victim''. He tried to ask the doctor what went wrong and ended up killing him. Except, it was the ''wrong'' doctor.
** The three young adults from "Senseless" who were violently gunned down for a flippant reason by a sociopathic nutcase. All of them were well-known as ''good'' kids with a bright future ahead of them.

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** Jamie Yost from "Executioner". His only son and grandchild were brutally murdered by a crazy killer who was supposed to die on his death sentence. Instead, there was a problem with the injection site and the killer became a ''victim''. He tried to ask the doctor what went wrong and ended up killing him. Except, it was the ''wrong'' doctor.
** The three young adults from "Senseless" who were violently gunned down for a flippant reason by a sociopathic nutcase. All of them were well-known as ''good'' kids with a bright future ahead of them.
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10th Feb '17 6:48:36 PM creader
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** Tory Quinlann, from "Captive". First, he was held captive for five years by a sexual offender who would repeatedly molest him. Then,it's later revealed that before the abduction, his step-father was physically abusive to him and his mother has openly denied it; and it's implied that Tory stayed with his abuser becaue he felt around him than he did his own family. And when his captor brought home a new boy to molest, Tory (who was diagnosed with Stockholm Syndrome) killed the boy because he saw him as "competition". And he is then convicted of second degree murder.

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** Tory Quinlann, from "Captive". First, he was held captive for five years by a sexual offender who would repeatedly molest him. Then,it's later revealed that before the abduction, his step-father was physically abusive to him and his mother has openly denied it; and it's implied that Tory stayed with his abuser becaue because he felt around him than he did his own family. And when his captor brought home a new boy to molest, Tory (who was diagnosed with Stockholm Syndrome) killed the boy because he saw him as "competition". And he is then convicted of second degree murder.



** Jamie Yost from "Executioner". His only son and grandchild were brutally murdered by a crazy killer who was supposed to die on his death sentence. Instead, there was a problem with the injection site and the killer became a ''victim''. He tried to ask the doctor what went wrong and ended up killing him. Except, it was the ''wrong'' doctor.

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** Jamie Yost from "Executioner". His only son and grandchild were brutally murdered by a crazy killer who was supposed to die on his death sentence. Instead, there was a problem with the injection site and the killer became a ''victim''. He tried to ask the doctor what went wrong and ended up killing him. Except, it was the ''wrong'' doctor.doctor.
** The three young adults from "Senseless" who were violently gunned down for a flippant reason by a sociopathic nutcase. All of them were well-known as ''good'' kids with a bright future ahead of them.
1st Feb '17 5:00:04 PM creader
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** [[FragileFlower Judith Sandler]], a witness [[spoiler: and the doer]] from "Survivor". Already being the daughter of [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust Holocaust]] survivors and being traumatized by what her parents went through, which affected her upbringing and being afraid of the world around her, she helped to carry on the pursuit of her father's lost possessions before going he was captured years earlier... [[spoiler: only to discover that a foreign billionaire had already sold the father's things and that she had killed the victim, who she thought was withholding knowledge about them, for nothing.]]

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** [[FragileFlower Judith Sandler]], a witness [[spoiler: and the doer]] from "Survivor". Already being the daughter of [[UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust Holocaust]] survivors and being traumatized by what her parents went through, which affected her upbringing and being afraid of the world around her, she helped to carry on the pursuit of her father's lost possessions before going he was captured years earlier... [[spoiler: only to discover that a foreign billionaire had already sold the father's things and that she had killed the victim, who she thought was withholding knowledge about them, for nothing.]]]]
** Jamie Yost from "Executioner". His only son and grandchild were brutally murdered by a crazy killer who was supposed to die on his death sentence. Instead, there was a problem with the injection site and the killer became a ''victim''. He tried to ask the doctor what went wrong and ended up killing him. Except, it was the ''wrong'' doctor.
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