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* StylisticSuck: The kitschy [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/Lana_Del_Rey_-_Norman_Fucking_Rockwell.png comic book-esque]] cover for ''Norman Fucking Rockwell''.
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* VindicatedByHistory: [[https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/10/30/20853231/lana-del-rey-authenticity-career-norman-fucking-rockwell This Vox article goes into more detail about it.]] Lana Del Rey's obviously manufactured public image didn't win over a lot of critics at the time, and "Video Games" seemed opportunistic coming on the heels of Music/{{Adele}} doing a similar stripped-back sound to more notoriety. And yet, as standards of pop music have mutated over the course of the 2010s in a post-Music/{{Lorde}}, post-"poptimism" landscape, the backlash is now a distant memory as Lana now has a diehard fanbase and critical respect ''for'' all this calculation. On a more musical basis, it could easily be argued that Lana may have, at least in part, paved the way for Lorde (not to mention Music/BillieEilish). In 2021, Pitchfork revealed that if given hindsight ''Born To Die'' would have scored a 7.8 instead of the official 5.5 rating.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: Some of Lana’s webcam demos sound pretty strung-out, thanks to drunken-sounding vocals and/or sloppy editing.
** As far as produced tracks go, “Catch & Release”, “Come When You Call Me A.M.E.R.I.C.A.”, “Maha Maha” and “Strange Love” are rather trippy.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: Some of Lana’s webcam demos sound pretty strung-out, thanks to drunken-sounding vocals and/or sloppy editing.
** As far as produced tracks go, “Catch & Release”, “Come When You Call Me A.M.E.R.I.C.A.”, “Maha Maha” and “Strange Love” are rather trippy.
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* VindicatedByHistory: [[https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/10/30/20853231/lana-del-rey-authenticity-career-norman-fucking-rockwell This Vox article goes into more detail about it.]] Lana Del Rey's obviously manufactured public image didn't win over a lot of critics at the time, and "Video Games" seemed opportunistic coming on the heels of Music/{{Adele}} doing a similar stripped-back sound to more notoriety. And yet, as standards of pop music have mutated over the course of the 2010s in a post-Music/{{Lorde}}, post-"poptimism" landscape, the backlash is now a distant memory as Lana now has a diehard fanbase and critical respect ''for'' all this calculation. On a more musical basis, it could easily be argued that Lana may have, at least in part, paved the way for Lorde (not to mention Music/BillieEilish). In 2021, Pitchfork revealed that if given hindsight ''Born To Die'' would have scored a 7.8 instead of the official 5.5 rating.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: Some of Lana’s webcam demos sound pretty strung-out, thanks to drunken-sounding vocals and/or sloppy editing.
** As far as produced tracks go, “Catch & Release”, “Come When You Call Me A.M.E.R.I.C.A.”, “Maha Maha” and “Strange Love” are rather trippy.rating.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: Some of Lana’s webcam demos sound pretty strung-out, thanks to drunken-sounding vocals and/or sloppy editing.
** As far as produced tracks go, “Catch & Release”, “Come When You Call Me A.M.E.R.I.C.A.”, “Maha Maha” and “Strange Love” are rather trippy.
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Renamed some tropes.
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* QuestionableCasting: Her collaboration with Music/MileyCyrus and Music/ArianaGrande in the song and video for "Don't Call Me Angel" got this reaction from some of the fanbase, although it is generally agreed that her bridge is considered to be the best part of the song.
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** As far as produced tracks go, “Catch & Release”, “Come When You Call Me A.M.E.R.I.C.A.”, “Maha Maha” and “Strange Love” are rather trippy.
* WTHCastingAgency: Her collaboration with Music/MileyCyrus and Music/ArianaGrande in the song and video for "Don't Call Me Angel" got this reaction from some of the fanbase, although it is generally agreed that her bridge is considered to be the best part of the song.
* WTHCastingAgency: Her collaboration with Music/MileyCyrus and Music/ArianaGrande in the song and video for "Don't Call Me Angel" got this reaction from some of the fanbase, although it is generally agreed that her bridge is considered to be the best part of the song.
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** As far as produced tracks go, “Catch & Release”, “Come When You Call Me A.M.E.R.I.C.A.”, “Maha Maha” and “Strange Love” are rather trippy.
* WTHCastingAgency: Her collaboration with Music/MileyCyrus and Music/ArianaGrande in the song and video for "Don't Call Me Angel" got this reaction from some of the fanbase, although it is generally agreed that her bridge is considered to be the best part of the song.trippy.
* WTHCastingAgency: Her collaboration with Music/MileyCyrus and Music/ArianaGrande in the song and video for "Don't Call Me Angel" got this reaction from some of the fanbase, although it is generally agreed that her bridge is considered to be the best part of the song.
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No Real Life
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* NeverLiveItDown: Her ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' appearance is frequently brought up by her detractors as evidence that Lana relies more on image than on talent.
** Back when she was first breaking into the mainstream, Lana was calling herself the “gangsta Music/NancySinatra” on social media—a moniker that the press subsequently ran with. Lana herself has later come on record saying it was a spur-of-the-moment thing that she regrets for misrepresenting her.
** Much of the harsher music criticism and media treatment wasn't lost on Lana, who eventually took to social media in May 2020 in a post now infamously titled "[[https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/lana-del-reys-question-to-the-culture-post Question for the Culture]]" to express frustration in the way her, her wider aesthetic and the subject matter in her songs was treated in the early stages of her career compared to many of her contemporaries who became successful while leaning on more HotterAndSexier tropes... problem is many musicians she name-dropped [[UnfortunateImplications were women of colour]]. While she wasn't actually criticising their successes and was ultimately more frustrated she was facing double standards in the industry the post still came off awkwardly worded and socially tone-deaf.
** Back when she was first breaking into the mainstream, Lana was calling herself the “gangsta Music/NancySinatra” on social media—a moniker that the press subsequently ran with. Lana herself has later come on record saying it was a spur-of-the-moment thing that she regrets for misrepresenting her.
** Much of the harsher music criticism and media treatment wasn't lost on Lana, who eventually took to social media in May 2020 in a post now infamously titled "[[https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/lana-del-reys-question-to-the-culture-post Question for the Culture]]" to express frustration in the way her, her wider aesthetic and the subject matter in her songs was treated in the early stages of her career compared to many of her contemporaries who became successful while leaning on more HotterAndSexier tropes... problem is many musicians she name-dropped [[UnfortunateImplications were women of colour]]. While she wasn't actually criticising their successes and was ultimately more frustrated she was facing double standards in the industry the post still came off awkwardly worded and socially tone-deaf.
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: Her persona thrived on this during the ''Born to Die'' and ''Ultraviolence'' eras. Inverted critically speaking however, as she gained more critical acclaim as her work became progressively LighterAndSofter.
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** With Swifties too, since [[Music/TaylorSwift Taylor]] and Lana are mutual fans of each other and have recorded music together.
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* DreamTeam: With the announcement that Music/CourtneyLove will be touring with Lana in 2015.
** With The Weeknd on his single "Prisoner" and her own single "Lust for Life".
** With The Weeknd on his single "Prisoner" and her own single "Lust for Life".
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** Much of the harsher music criticism and media treatment wasn't lost on Lana, who eventually took to social media in May 2020 in a post now infamously titled "[[https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/lana-del-reys-question-to-the-culture-post Question for the Culture]]" to express frustration in the way her, her wider aesthetic and the subject matter in her songs was treated in the early stages of her career compared to many of her contemporaries who became successful while leaning on more HotterAndSexier tropes... problem is many musicians she name-dropped [[UnfortunateImplications were women of colour]].
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** Much of the harsher music criticism and media treatment wasn't lost on Lana, who eventually took to social media in May 2020 in a post now infamously titled "[[https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/lana-del-reys-question-to-the-culture-post Question for the Culture]]" to express frustration in the way her, her wider aesthetic and the subject matter in her songs was treated in the early stages of her career compared to many of her contemporaries who became successful while leaning on more HotterAndSexier tropes... problem is many musicians she name-dropped [[UnfortunateImplications were women of colour]]. While she wasn't actually criticising their successes and was ultimately more frustrated she was facing double standards in the industry the post still came off awkwardly worded and socially tone-deaf.
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** Much of the harsher music criticism and media treatment wasn't lost on Lana, who eventually took to social media in May 2020 in a post now infamously titled "[[https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/lana-del-reys-question-to-the-culture-post Question for the Culture]]" to express frustration in the way her, her wider aesthetic and the subject matter in her songs was treated in the early stages of her career compared to many of her contemporaries who became successful while leaning on more HotterAndSexier tropes... problem is many musicians she name-dropped [[UnfortunateImplications were women of colour]].
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* NeverLiveItDown: Her ''Saturday Night Life'' appearance is frequently brought up by her detractors as evidence that Lana relies more on image than on talent.
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* NeverLiveItDown: Her ''Saturday Night Life'' ''Series/SaturdayNightLive'' appearance is frequently brought up by her detractors as evidence that Lana relies more on image than on talent.
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** Wiki/TheOtherWiki mentions her music as Chamber Pop, like Florence and The Machine, and there is cross support there.
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** Wiki/TheOtherWiki Website/TheOtherWiki mentions her music as Chamber Pop, like Florence and The Machine, and there is cross support there.
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Up To Eleven is a defunct trope
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* CriticalDissonance: Most critics were dismissive of ''Born to Die'' when it came out and saw it as a mediocre pop album, and they didn't particularly like ''Paradise'' either compare to her later albums (An UpToEleven example being Pitchfork which gave ''Norman Fucking Rockwell!'' a 9.4 compared to ''Born to Die'''s 5.5. Her other albums received scores around the 7). Meanwhile, most of her fans like all of her albums and think they're all good in their own way. [[FirstInstallmentWins Some think ''Born to Die'' is her best album.]]
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* CriticalDissonance: Most critics were dismissive of ''Born to Die'' when it came out and saw it as a mediocre pop album, and they didn't particularly like ''Paradise'' either compare to her later albums (An UpToEleven up to eleven example being Pitchfork which gave ''Norman Fucking Rockwell!'' a 9.4 compared to ''Born to Die'''s 5.5. Her other albums received scores around the 7). Meanwhile, most of her fans like all of her albums and think they're all good in their own way. [[FirstInstallmentWins Some think ''Born to Die'' is her best album.]]