History YMMV / KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep

12th Jun '16 6:44:07 AM Peridonyx
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* DesignatedEvil: More than a few fans view pretty much Terra's entire storyline with his Darkness as this. For starters, while Riku openly and willingly accepted his CastingAShadow powers from Maleficent, Terra's are actually forced upon him by a rather sneaky Master Xehanort. And while Riku willfully started attacking Sora, Beast, etc. out of anger and arrogance, Terra only ever attacks aggressors (such as Braig, [[spoiler:Eraqus]], [[spoiler:the aforementioned Xehanort]], etc.) with his Darkness as a self-defensive last resort. And yet Riku ended up lucky enough to get to start atoning almost immediately after his LaserGuidedKarma, whereas Terra's still missing-in-action as of the epilogue. Conclusively, to said fans, Terra's final fate is pretty glaring DisproportionateRetribution for events that have hardly ever been in his control anyway.

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* DesignatedEvil: More than a few fans view pretty much Terra's entire storyline with his Darkness as this. For starters, while Riku openly and willingly accepted his CastingAShadow powers from Maleficent, Terra's are actually forced upon him by a rather sneaky Master Xehanort. And while Riku willfully started attacking Sora, Beast, etc. out of anger and arrogance, Terra only ever attacks aggressors (such as Braig, [[spoiler:Eraqus]], [[spoiler:the aforementioned Xehanort]], etc.) with his Darkness as a self-defensive last resort. And yet Riku ended up lucky enough to get to start atoning almost immediately after his LaserGuidedKarma, whereas Terra's still missing-in-action MIA as of the epilogue. Conclusively, to said fans, Terra's final fate is pretty glaring DisproportionateRetribution for events that have hardly ever been in his control anyway.
5th Jun '16 5:32:48 PM Peridonyx
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* DesignatedEvil: More than a few fans view pretty much Terra's entire storyline with his Darkness as this. For starters, while Riku openly and willingly accepted his CastingAShadow powers from Maleficent, Terra's are actually forced upon him by a rather sneaky Master Xehanort. And while Riku willfully started attacking Sora, Beast, etc. out of anger and arrogance, Terra only ever attacks aggressors (such as Braig, [[spoiler:Eraqus]], [[spoiler:the aforementioned Xehanort]], etc.) with his Darkness as a self-defensive last resort. And yet Riku ended up lucky enough to get to start atoning almost immediately after his LaserGuidedKarma, whereas Terra's still missing-in-action as of the epilogue. Conclusively, to said fans, Terra's final fate is pretty glaring DisproportionateRetribution for events that have hardly ever been in his control anyway.
2nd Jun '16 4:58:48 PM Peridonyx
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Zack. He loses out on being trained as a hero by Phil simply because he hesitates a bit longer than Hercules to go help Ven. Beyond that, the fact he's an EnsembleDarkhorse in his own series, his awesome combat skills and D-Link in this game, and being able to fight ''[[WorldsStrongestMan Hercules]]'' in a fair fight and give him a challenge, results in kinda wishing he had won.

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Zack. He loses out on being trained as a hero by Phil simply because he hesitates a bit longer than Hercules to go help Ven. Beyond that, the fact he's an EnsembleDarkhorse in his own series, his awesome combat skills and D-Link in this game, and being able to fight ''[[WorldsStrongestMan Hercules]]'' in a fair fight and give him a challenge, results in kinda wishing he had won.
2nd Jun '16 10:53:47 AM Peridonyx
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** Eraqus to some, particularly in comparison to Master Xehanort (see UnintentionallyUnsympathetic below). While Xehanort is ultimately correct about Eraqus's BlackAndWhiteMorality, not to mention the latter's PoorCommunicationKills on top of it, at least Eraqus still genuinely cares about the well-being of both his students and TheMultiverse in general at the end of the day -- in contrast to Xehanort being a LackOfEmpathy-having EvilMentor who wants to force proven-dangerous changes upon everyone just ForScience. [[spoiler:Additionally, the narrative itself even retroactively, albeit unintentionally, demonstrates that Eraqus's ShootTheDog-attempt would've actually done Ven a favor compared to his actual fate -- and even then, Eraqus still ultimately grows remorseful enough to invoke HeroicSacrifice by using his own Heart to protect Terra's for the future.]]
30th May '16 10:16:05 PM DrakeClawfang
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** Whilst the Unknown's entire moveset is basically this, one in particular stands out: Collision Magnet, [[FanNickname often called the Rape Rope.]] Simple idea: he jumps high into the air, latches onto you with his laser beams, drags you up into the air and slashes you. The catch? The attack will almost always take you down to 1 HP (kill you outright without Second Chance and Once More), and it actually ''stuns you'' briefly once you get hit. This means that it's entirely possible for him to follow it up with another Rape Rope, which you'll have no chance of surviving (although he more commonly uses Tornado or his Combos afterwards). To add to that, it has a fairly wide attack radius, it homes in on you, ''and'' it has a lingering hitbox so if you stop dodging for even a millisecond, it will catch you. So yeah, don't get hit, or else you're pretty much dead. Have fun beating him with [[MightyGlacier Terra]].

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** Whilst the Unknown's entire moveset is basically this, one in particular stands out: Collision Magnet, [[FanNickname often called the Rape Rope.]] Simple idea: he jumps high into the air, latches onto lashes his sword toward you with his laser beams, drags to pull you up into towards him, and then he smacks you back down. The catch is that the air lag time from the hit is so long, he's pretty much guaranteed to land and slashes you. The catch? The attack will almost always take before you recover, granting you no chance to dodge his next blow. He can even use the move twice in a row, which is sure to put even a Level 99 character down to 1 HP (kill you outright without HP. And since his next move will be a separate one, it won't trigger Second Chance and or Once More), More. The move's ability to instantly kill you and it actually ''stuns you'' briefly once you get hit. This means that it's entirely possible for him to follow it up with another Rape Rope, which you'll have no chance of surviving (although he more commonly uses Tornado or his Combos afterwards). To add to that, it has a fairly wide attack radius, it homes the difficulty in on you, ''and'' it has a lingering hitbox so if you stop dodging for even a millisecond, it will catch you. So yeah, don't get hit, or else you're pretty much dead. Have fun beating him with [[MightyGlacier Terra]].is a big factor in what makes the boss so difficult, and ''Final Mix'' noticeably nerfed its stun duration to make it easier to escape from.
29th May '16 10:29:58 PM DrakeClawfang
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* HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler:Master Eraqus is voiced by Mark Hamill in English, and is eventually betrayed by his student, Terra. [[Film/TheForceAwakens Five years later]], Luke Skywalker, also played by Hamill, is betrayed by his student and nephew, Kylo Ren]].

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[[spoiler:Master Eraqus is voiced by Mark Hamill in English, and is eventually betrayed by his student, Terra. [[Film/TheForceAwakens Five years later]], Luke Skywalker, also played by Hamill, is betrayed by his student and nephew, Kylo Ren]].Ren]].
** Master Xehanort's secondary plan is [[spoiler:to steal Terra's body]] because he's worried he's too old and wouldn't live to see his plans to fruition even if he pulls them off. In 2015, both of his voice actors, Creator/ChikaoOhtsuka and Creator/LeonardNimoy, passed away while ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII'', the game that will end the Xehanort Saga, is still in development.
29th May '16 8:24:44 PM DrakeClawfang
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Zack. He loses out on being trained as a hero by Phil simply because he hesitates a bit longer than Hercules to go help Ven. Beyond that, the fact he's an EnsembleDarkhose in his own series, his awesome combat skills and D-Link in this game, and being able to fight ''[[WorldsStrongestMan Hercules]]'' in a fair fight and give him a challenge, results in kinda wishing he had won.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Zack. He loses out on being trained as a hero by Phil simply because he hesitates a bit longer than Hercules to go help Ven. Beyond that, the fact he's an EnsembleDarkhose EnsembleDarkhorse in his own series, his awesome combat skills and D-Link in this game, and being able to fight ''[[WorldsStrongestMan Hercules]]'' in a fair fight and give him a challenge, results in kinda wishing he had won.
29th May '16 8:24:27 PM DrakeClawfang
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Zack. He loses out on being trained as a hero by Phil simply because he hesitates a bit longer than Hercules to go help Ven. Beyond that, the fact he's an EnsembleDarkhose in his own series, his awesome combat skills and D-Link in this game, and being able to fight ''[[WorldsStrongestMan Hercules]]'' in a fair fight and give him a challenge, results in kinda wishing he had won.
8th May '16 10:10:19 PM troperHearts
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** A warrior in training who is denied the rank of master that he clamored for so long, was duped by an manipulative bastard into turning himself over to the darkness. Said warrior kills his master, and ultimately ends up confined in a suit of armor. Thus, the tragedy of [[Franchise/StarWars Anakin Skywalker—]] er, Terra!
1st May '16 9:00:11 AM Peridonyx
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Sure, Master Xehanort is the polar opposite of a saint, but the narrative still tries to convey that he's a tragic FallenHero. However, while his Reports definitely succeed at that, his [[ObviouslyEvil actual screentime]] makes it seem like they might as well have been written by a completely different character. And even his one (seeming) PetTheDog moment -- being willing to at least let [[spoiler:Ven die in peace on Destiny Islands]] -- is ultimately subverted because: (1) Xehanort was the one who [[spoiler:tortured Ven to that point in the first place]], and (2) Xehanort simply continues to [[spoiler:abuse and exploit Ven even further after his eventual survival]]. More than a few fans just see it as InformedKindness attributed to a CreatorsPet instead.
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