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** The film's plot is also often compared to ''Film/SevenSamurai'' or its more famous American remake ''Film/TheMagnificentSeven1960'' due to the seven knights (Arthur included) defending a community or society that they don't quite fit in from raiders. Antoine Fuqua would direct [[Film/TheMagnificentSeven2016 a remake of that ten years later]].

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** The film's plot is also often compared to ''Film/SevenSamurai'' or its more famous American remake ''Film/TheMagnificentSeven1960'' due to the seven knights (Arthur included) defending a community or society that they don't quite fit in from raiders.raiders who vastly outnumber them. Antoine Fuqua would direct [[Film/TheMagnificentSeven2016 a remake of that ten years later]].
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* ShockingMoments: The death of [[spoiler:Lancelot, given that Arthur's not king yet, there's no real love triangle yet, he outlives most everyone else in the legends, and he's the movie's narrator. And then he goes on to narrate the ending anyway]]! It's also not (as) predictable or telegraphed like the other character deaths which a savvy viewer could pick up on. For instance, the film's entry in ''[[Creator/CleolindaJones Movies in Fifteen Minutes]]'' has [[spoiler:Arthur bewail that he didn't teach Tristan (who's killed when he duels the BigBad ahead of Arthur) the "rules of movie death", but Lancelot is just as surprised and confused as the hissing, crying fangirls in the audience. The movie ''does'' foreshadow his death in battle with him telling Arthur to cremate him and scatter his ashes when it happens (as the ''Fifteen Minutes'' AffectionateParody points out) but alert audiences will probably think "LikeYouReallyWouldDoIt" because it's Lancelot, until the movie in fact does it]].

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* ShockingMoments: The death of [[spoiler:Lancelot, given that Arthur's not king yet, there's no real love triangle yet, he outlives most everyone else in the legends, and he's the movie's narrator. And then he goes on to narrate the ending anyway]]! It's also not (as) predictable or telegraphed like the other character deaths which a savvy viewer could pick up on. For instance, the film's entry in ''[[Creator/CleolindaJones Movies in Fifteen Minutes]]'' has [[spoiler:Arthur bewail that he didn't teach Tristan (who's killed when he duels the BigBad ahead of Arthur) the "rules of movie death", but Lancelot is just as surprised and confused as the hissing, crying fangirls in the audience. The movie ''does'' foreshadow his death in battle with him telling Arthur to cremate him and scatter his ashes when it happens (as the ''Fifteen Minutes'' AffectionateParody points out) but alert audiences will probably think "LikeYouReallyWouldDoIt" "LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt" because it's Lancelot, until the movie in fact does it]].
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* ShockingMoments: The death of [[spoiler:Lancelot, given that Arthur's not king yet, there's no real love triangle yet, and he's the narrator. And then he goes on to narrate the ending anyway]]! It's also not (as) predictable or telegraphed like the other character deaths which a savvy viewer could pick up on. For instance, the film's entry in ''[[Creator/CleolindaJones Movies in Fifteen Minutes]]'' has [[spoiler:Arthur bewail that he didn't teach Tristan (who's killed when he duels the BigBad ahead of Arthur) the "rules of movie death", but Lancelot is just as surprised and confused as the hissing, crying fangirls in the audience]].

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* ShockingMoments: The death of [[spoiler:Lancelot, given that Arthur's not king yet, there's no real love triangle yet, he outlives most everyone else in the legends, and he's the movie's narrator. And then he goes on to narrate the ending anyway]]! It's also not (as) predictable or telegraphed like the other character deaths which a savvy viewer could pick up on. For instance, the film's entry in ''[[Creator/CleolindaJones Movies in Fifteen Minutes]]'' has [[spoiler:Arthur bewail that he didn't teach Tristan (who's killed when he duels the BigBad ahead of Arthur) the "rules of movie death", but Lancelot is just as surprised and confused as the hissing, crying fangirls in the audience]].audience. The movie ''does'' foreshadow his death in battle with him telling Arthur to cremate him and scatter his ashes when it happens (as the ''Fifteen Minutes'' AffectionateParody points out) but alert audiences will probably think "LikeYouReallyWouldDoIt" because it's Lancelot, until the movie in fact does it]].

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** Creator/HughDancy plays Galahad before his notable appearances in ''Film/EllaEnchanted'', ''Film/ConfessionsOfAShopaholic'', ''Film/TheJaneAustenBookClub'', ''Elizabeth I'' and of course ''{{Series/Hannibal}}''.

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** Creator/HughDancy plays Galahad before his notable appearances in ''Film/EllaEnchanted'', ''Film/ConfessionsOfAShopaholic'', ''Film/TheJaneAustenBookClub'', ''Elizabeth I'' and of course ''{{Series/Hannibal}}''.''{{Series/Hannibal}}'' where he plays Will Graham opposite Mikkelsen's Hannibal Lecter. This makes some of their dialogue in the movie amusingly prescient, with Galahad saying he doesn't kill for pleasure "unlike some", and Tristan replying that he should try it someday because he might get a taste for it.



* SignatureScene: The battle between Arthur's seven knights, plus Guinevere, against two hundred Saxons on a frozen river that starts cracking moments into the battle, where the only casualty of said battle is Dagonet. It's widely considered the best scene in the film.

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* SignatureScene: The battle between Arthur's seven Arthur and his six knights, plus Guinevere, against two hundred Saxons on a frozen river that starts cracking moments into the battle, where the only casualty of said battle among the heroes is Dagonet. It's widely considered the best scene in the film.


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** The film's plot is also often compared to ''Film/SevenSamurai'' or its more famous American remake ''Film/TheMagnificentSeven1960'' due to the seven knights (Arthur included) defending a community or society that they don't quite fit in from raiders. Antoine Fuqua would direct [[Film/TheMagnificentSeven2016 a remake of that ten years later]].
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* HilariousInHindsight
** [[Film/{{Avatar}} Tribal Blue Women fight against a better-equipped invading army.]]
** Galahad saying he doesn't kill for pleasure "unlike some", and Tristan replying that he should try it someday because he might get a taste for it is rather funny, considering that Hugh Dancy (Galahad) and Mads Mikkelsen (Tristan) star in ''{{Series/Hannibal}}'' as Will Graham and Hannibal Lecter, respectively.
** Merlin (played by Stephen Dillane) telling Arthur [[Series/GameOfThrones "We have all lost brothers"]].
** The film's plot is often compared to ''Film/SevenSamurai'' or its more famous American remake ''Film/TheMagnificentSeven1960''. Antoine Fuqua would direct [[Film/TheMagnificentSeven2016 a remake of that ten years later]].
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* ShockingMoments: The death of [[spoiler:Lancelot, given that Arthur's not king yet, there's no real love triangle yet, and he's the narrator. And then he goes on to narrate the ending anyway]]! It's also not (as) predictable or telegraphed like the other character deaths which a savvy viewer could pick up on.

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* ShockingMoments: The death of [[spoiler:Lancelot, given that Arthur's not king yet, there's no real love triangle yet, and he's the narrator. And then he goes on to narrate the ending anyway]]! It's also not (as) predictable or telegraphed like the other character deaths which a savvy viewer could pick up on. For instance, the film's entry in ''[[Creator/CleolindaJones Movies in Fifteen Minutes]]'' has [[spoiler:Arthur bewail that he didn't teach Tristan (who's killed when he duels the BigBad ahead of Arthur) the "rules of movie death", but Lancelot is just as surprised and confused as the hissing, crying fangirls in the audience]].
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* OlderThanTheyThink: Turning Guinevere into an ActionGirl is actually CharacterRerailment - in the original sources her counterpart actually was one. It was only from the 13th Century onward that she underwent {{Chickification}} to focus on her affair with Lancelot.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Guinevere gets {{Xenafication}} to become an ActionGirl and thus the base is split on whether this was a well thought out choice for a work that sold itself on {{Demythification}} or not. She does however have fans, particularly those who have seen the extended version, who point out she's significantly more than just the love interest, and love her moments in battle, as well as killing Marius.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Guinevere gets {{Xenafication}} to become an ActionGirl and thus the base is split on whether this was a well thought out choice for a work that sold itself on {{Demythification}} or not. She does however have fans, particularly those who have seen the extended version, who point out she's significantly more than just the love interest, {{love interest}}, and love her moments in battle, as well as killing Marius.



** Arthur's [[spoiler:mortal blow to Cerdic]] feels like they were going for a sort of samurai vibe [[spoiler:with Arthur striking without even looking at him, even reverse gripping Excalibur,]] but he's on his knees [[spoiler:and moments away from getting killed himself,]] which makes it look too contrived. If he'd been standing, or if he'd [[spoiler:turned around to strike like Mel Gibson in a similar scene in ''Film/ThePatriot2000'',]] it might have worked better.

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** Arthur's [[spoiler:mortal blow to Cerdic]] feels like they were going for a sort of samurai vibe [[spoiler:with Arthur striking without even looking at him, even reverse gripping Excalibur,]] but he's on his knees [[spoiler:and moments away from getting killed himself,]] which makes it look too contrived. If he'd been standing, or if he'd [[spoiler:turned around to strike like Mel Gibson in a similar scene in ''Film/ThePatriot2000'',]] ''Film/ThePatriot2000'']], it might have worked better.



* UnexpectedCharacter: Dagonet is a surprising choice for this movie, since he's a minor character not often used in the legends, and only memorable for being a court jester. He enjoys less press than other knights such as Kay, Percival or Elyan.

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* UnexpectedCharacter: Dagonet is a surprising choice for this movie, since he's a minor character not often used in the legends, and only memorable for being a court jester.{{court jester}}. He enjoys less press than other knights such as Kay, Percival or Elyan.
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** Arthur's [[spoiler:mortal blow to Cerdic]] feels like they were going for a sort of samurai vibe [[spoiler:with Arthur striking without even looking at him, even reverse gripping Excalibur,]] but he's on his knees [[spoiler:and moments away from getting killed himself,]] which makes it look too contrived. If he'd been standing, or if he'd [[spoiler:turned around to strike like Mel Gibson in a similar scene in ''Film/ThePatriot'',]] it might have worked better.

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** Arthur's [[spoiler:mortal blow to Cerdic]] feels like they were going for a sort of samurai vibe [[spoiler:with Arthur striking without even looking at him, even reverse gripping Excalibur,]] but he's on his knees [[spoiler:and moments away from getting killed himself,]] which makes it look too contrived. If he'd been standing, or if he'd [[spoiler:turned around to strike like Mel Gibson in a similar scene in ''Film/ThePatriot'',]] ''Film/ThePatriot2000'',]] it might have worked better.

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* {{Narm}}: This exchange between Lancelot and Guinevere sounds incredibly forced.

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This exchange between Lancelot and Guinevere sounds incredibly forced.



** Arthur's [[spoiler:mortal blow to Cerdic]] feels like they were going for a sort of samurai vibe [[spoiler:with Arthur striking without even looking at him, even reverse gripping Excalibur,]] but he's on his knees [[spoiler:and moments away from getting killed himself,]] which makes it look too contrived. If he'd been standing, or if he'd [[spoiler:turned around to strike like Mel Gibson in a similar scene in ''Film/ThePatriot'',]] it might have worked better.



** Creator/StellanSkarsgard plays Cerdic two years before joining ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanDeadMansChest'' as Bootstrap Bill, and later Dr. Selvig in ''Thor''.

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** Creator/StellanSkarsgard plays Cerdic two years before joining ''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanDeadMansChest'' as Bootstrap Bill, and later he was Dr. Selvig in ''Thor''.


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* ShockingMoments: The death of [[spoiler:Lancelot, given that Arthur's not king yet, there's no real love triangle yet, and he's the narrator. And then he goes on to narrate the ending anyway]]! It's also not (as) predictable or telegraphed like the other character deaths which a savvy viewer could pick up on.

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