History YMMV / KevinAndKell

17th May '17 5:36:54 AM Macsen
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** This, however, may be subject to a {{retcon}}. The original source above is now gone, and [[http://kevinandkell.com/2017/kk0301.html an ultrasound revealed their first daughter is a bat]].

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** This, however, may be subject to a {{retcon}}. The original source above is now gone, and [[http://kevinandkell.com/2017/kk0301.html an ultrasound revealed their Lindesfarne and Fenton's first daughter is a bat]].bat]]. It is possible that Lindesfarne has been on this side of the portal long enough that she will no longer have human offspring, or the fact that she went through puberty on this side may have an effect on things.
17th May '17 5:35:01 AM Macsen
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** This, however, may be subject to a {{retcon}}. The original source above is now gone, and [[http://kevinandkell.com/2017/kk0301.html an ultrasound revealed their first daughter is a bat]].
17th May '17 5:30:57 AM Macsen
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* {{Anvilicious}} -- Comic about the equivalent of an interracial couple. So, yeah, it's gonna happen.
* ArchiveBinge[=/=]ArchivePanic -- Going back to ''1995'', this is one of the longest-running webcomics with over 6,500 strips and still counting. That's 20 years of DAILY strips.... You don't need to read the full archive to understand the newer strips but you have to read them if you want to get the full story.

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* {{Anvilicious}} -- {{Anvilicious}}: Comic about the equivalent of an interracial couple. So, yeah, it's gonna happen.
* ArchiveBinge[=/=]ArchivePanic -- ArchiveBinge[=/=]ArchivePanic: Going back to ''1995'', this is one of the longest-running webcomics with over 6,500 strips and still counting. That's 20 years of DAILY strips.... You don't need to read the full archive to understand the newer strips but you have to read them if you want to get the full story.



* BaseBreaker - Any time the comic delves into politics. The simplistic format of the series turns any attempt to confront a controversial topic into an Anvilicious MarySue vs EvilEmpire very quickly.
* BoringInvincibleHero -- One review suggests that the main characters have become this, not in fighting style but that they will always succeed at whatever they do somehow. It surmises that this is because Holbrook has fallen in love with the characters and cannot bear to make them unhappy... which would seem to be supported by his extreme focus on the strip, even over his more profitable comics and endeavors.
* CriticalResearchFailure -- Lindesfarne's {{squick}} over Human!Martha's sweat. Several animal species perspire (including primates). Particularly egregious given that Lindesfarne is a biologist and should've already have known what sweat was.

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* BaseBreaker - BaseBreaker: Any time the comic delves into politics. The simplistic format of the series turns any attempt to confront a controversial topic into an Anvilicious MarySue vs EvilEmpire very quickly.
* BoringInvincibleHero -- BoringInvincibleHero: One review suggests that the main characters have become this, not in fighting style but that they will always succeed at whatever they do somehow. It surmises that this is because Holbrook has fallen in love with the characters and cannot bear to make them unhappy... which would seem to be supported by his extreme focus on the strip, even over his more profitable comics and endeavors.
* CriticalResearchFailure -- CriticalResearchFailure: Lindesfarne's {{squick}} over Human!Martha's sweat. Several animal species perspire (including primates). Particularly egregious given that Lindesfarne is a biologist and should've already have known what sweat was.



* InternetBackdraft -- The entire Danielle saga caused massive flame wars on the Kevin and Kell mailing list. Even Danielle making a one shot appearance will send them into a furor. This fan reaction is credited for the strip abandoning the long-running, complicated serial plots it had relied on for much of its existence.
* ItWasHisSled -- The Great Bird Conspiracy, that they ran the world until they gave it up.

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* InternetBackdraft -- InternetBackdraft: The entire Danielle saga caused massive flame wars on the Kevin and Kell mailing list. Even Danielle making a one shot appearance will send them into a furor. This fan reaction is credited for the strip abandoning the long-running, complicated serial plots it had relied on for much of its existence.
* ItWasHisSled -- ItWasHisSled: The Great Bird Conspiracy, that they ran the world until they gave it up.



* MisaimedFandom -- Surprisingly, the comic really does make some fans appreciate the world we live in a lot more. (Mostly because RealLife could be a hell of a lot worse.)

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* MisaimedFandom -- MisaimedFandom: Surprisingly, the comic really does make some fans appreciate the world we live in a lot more. (Mostly because RealLife could be a hell of a lot worse.)



* StrangledByTheRedString -- Rhonda dumps Edgar, a character she had been dating exclusively for much of her history in the strip, for Quinn, a character the readers have just met, has had no build-up at all, and its supposed to be "true love". Even more distressing is that this is also Rhonda's final storyline, as the marriage served to [[PutOnABus put her on a bus]].
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot -- Lindesfarne and Fenton's wedding, which was the culmination of roughly a decade of the strip's history, should have been an occasion to show off the entire diverse cast over the years and highlight the much-anticipated union of two characters who had been dating since the strip's earliest years. Instead, the entire thing was derailed to introduce and glorify Fenton's mother, Desdemona, a brand-new character, and the entire plot was hijacked to focus on the bigotry she faced as a vampire bat. Not shockingly, this was also the ''first'' time vampire bats or bigotry against them was revealed. While a handful of long-unseen characters poked their heads in once or twice, the majority of the plot was focused on Desdemona and nothing else (not even how her ''son'' might take the news that his mother had essentially lied to him his entire life, or how ''he'' might be reacting to being part vampire bat). For one more kick in the pants, you're twice as likely to see Desdemona in a strip now than either Fenton ''or'' Lindesfarne.

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* StrangledByTheRedString -- StrangledByTheRedString: Rhonda dumps Edgar, a character she had been dating exclusively for much of her history in the strip, for Quinn, a character the readers have just met, has had no build-up at all, and its supposed to be "true love". Even more distressing is that this is also Rhonda's final storyline, as the marriage served to [[PutOnABus put her on a bus]].
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot -- TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Lindesfarne and Fenton's wedding, which was the culmination of roughly a decade of the strip's history, should have been an occasion to show off the entire diverse cast over the years and highlight the much-anticipated union of two characters who had been dating since the strip's earliest years. Instead, the entire thing was derailed to introduce and glorify Fenton's mother, Desdemona, a brand-new character, and the entire plot was hijacked to focus on the bigotry she faced as a vampire bat. Not shockingly, this was also the ''first'' time vampire bats or bigotry against them was revealed. While a handful of long-unseen characters poked their heads in once or twice, the majority of the plot was focused on Desdemona and nothing else (not even how her ''son'' might take the news that his mother had essentially lied to him his entire life, or how ''he'' might be reacting to being part vampire bat). For one more kick in the pants, you're twice as likely to see Desdemona in a strip now than either Fenton ''or'' Lindesfarne.
3rd May '17 4:03:13 PM BenOfHouston
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* BaseBreaker - Any time the comic delves into politics. The simplistic format of the series turns any attempt to confront a controversial topic into an Anvilicious MarySue vs EvilEmpire very quickly.
13th Apr '16 7:38:43 AM ladyofthelibrary
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The recent arc involving romantic trouble between Edgar and Leona due to her sorority trying to control her and run her ragged has turned [[SlapSlapKiss Rudy and Fiona]] into the BetaCouple. In their own words:
--> (thinking in unison) Like, how did ''we'' end up as the "non-drama" couple?
** As they're thinking this, Leona switches from wailing about how her sorority has possibly damaged her relationship with Edgar to resignedly remarking that she needs to make a rabbit stew for the sorority's next party.
16th Jan '16 5:59:48 PM nombretomado
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** This crops up constantly, such as the fact that Bill Holbrook does not know the difference between a hedgehog and a porcupine. He basically knows as much about animals in general as StanLee knew about [[SpiderMan spiders]].

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** This crops up constantly, such as the fact that Bill Holbrook does not know the difference between a hedgehog and a porcupine. He basically knows as much about animals in general as StanLee Creator/StanLee knew about [[SpiderMan spiders]].
5th Oct '15 5:19:35 AM Kitch
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* ArchiveBinge[=/=]ArchivePanic -- Going back to ''1995'', this is one of the longest-running webcomics with over 5000 strips and still counting. [[strike:Nearly]] OVER 19 years of DAILY strips.... You don't need to read the full archive to understand the newer strips but you have to read them if you want to get the full story.

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* ArchiveBinge[=/=]ArchivePanic -- Going back to ''1995'', this is one of the longest-running webcomics with over 5000 6,500 strips and still counting. [[strike:Nearly]] OVER 19 That's 20 years of DAILY strips.... You don't need to read the full archive to understand the newer strips but you have to read them if you want to get the full story.
14th Aug '15 5:52:11 PM Minni128
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** [[http://kevinandkell.com/2001/kk0217.html This strip]] falls under this trope when it's realized that, as a former human, [[http://blog.kevinandkell.com/archives/195-DEALING-WITH-THE-FUTURE.html any children Lindesfarne bears would probably be human]] - which makes it unlikely her great-grandchildren would be hedgehogs.

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** [[http://kevinandkell.com/2001/kk0217.html This strip]] falls under this trope when it's realized that, as a former human, [[http://blog.[[https://web.archive.org/web/20091023131110/http://blog.kevinandkell.com/archives/195-DEALING-WITH-THE-FUTURE.html any children Lindesfarne bears would probably be human]] - which makes it unlikely her great-grandchildren would be hedgehogs.
11th Mar '15 4:14:12 AM Berserker88
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* AssPull: the recent "Kevin getting a recall election," storyline, starting [[http://www.kevinandkell.com/2011/kk0608.html here.]] The whole thing is built up so that all rabbits are divided on how the ears are portrayed- ears up is one side, and ears down is the other. Both sides hate each other with the same vitriol as opposing political viewpoints. Kevin has one ear up and one ear down. So Bill Holbrook has the option of either going into a storyline that delves into politics and Kevin struggling to find compromise and balance in the system... or he could have every rabbit in the world suddenly have ears like Kevin with absolutely no explanation, getting him re-elected and preserving the Status Quo. [[http://www.kevinandkell.com/2011/kk0620.html Guess which one Holbrook went with.]]

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* AssPull: the recent The "Kevin getting a recall election," storyline, starting [[http://www.kevinandkell.com/2011/kk0608.html here.]] The whole thing is built up so that all rabbits are divided on how the ears are portrayed- ears up is one side, and ears down is the other. Both sides hate each other with the same vitriol as opposing political viewpoints. Kevin has one ear up and one ear down. So Bill Holbrook has the option of either going into a storyline that delves into politics and Kevin struggling to find compromise and balance in the system... or he could have every rabbit in the world suddenly have ears like Kevin with absolutely no explanation, getting him re-elected and preserving the Status Quo. [[http://www.kevinandkell.com/2011/kk0620.html Guess which one Holbrook went with.]]
7th Feb '14 9:49:08 PM Rebochan
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* JumpedTheShark -- It seemed like the comic decreased in quality when humans were introduced into the story.
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