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* {{Narm}}: During his fight with Metsuboujinrai, Fuwa has flashbacks of his various interactions with the members of the terrorist group of the same name. While this is meant to be [[spoiler:an emotional ReallyDeadMontage of his farewell towards them and the bonds he had with them, it only applies to Naki and to a lesser extent, Jin, since he never interacted with Horobi and Ikazuchi beyond when they were enemies, making the flashbacks where he is clearly antagonizing them jarring]].

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* FranchiseOriginalSin: While not the first V-Cinema, ''Vulcan & Valkyrie'' was the Cinema that started the now-maligned trend of killing off major characters through HappyEndingOverride.
* {{Narm}}: The otherwise amazing TransformationSequence of Vulcan's new form is kicked off by Aruto screaming Isamu's name with a loud echo, [[MoodDissonance sporting a goofy smile in the face]] of Isamu [[spoiler: preparing to MercyKill their friends]].
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During his fight with Metsuboujinrai, Fuwa has flashbacks of his various interactions with the members of the terrorist group of the same name. While this is meant to be [[spoiler:an emotional ReallyDeadMontage of his farewell towards them and the bonds he had with them, it only applies to Naki and to a lesser extent, Jin, since he never interacted with Horobi and Ikazuchi beyond when they were enemies, making the flashbacks where he is clearly antagonizing them jarring]].
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** Fuwa's interpretation of Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai as [[spoiler: a collective suicide perpetuated by the organization's members to facilitate further peace between Humans and Humagears]] is used almost solely to rally Isamu against the berserk Rider in a one-on-one duel. We never get to see how much of Metsubojinrai is left within the data of the berserk Rider and said Rider never says anything to give them a real motive beyond KillEmAll.

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** Fuwa's interpretation of Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai as [[spoiler: a collective suicide perpetuated by the organization's members to facilitate further peace between Humans and Humagears]] is used almost solely to rally Isamu against the berserk Rider in a one-on-one duel. We never get to see how much of Metsubojinrai is left within the data of the berserk Rider and said Rider never says anything to give them a real motive beyond KillEmAll.killing everyone.
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* {{Narm}}: During his fight with Metsuboujinrai, Fuwa has flashbacks of his various interactions with the members of the terrorist group of the same name. While this is meant to be [[spoiler:an emotional ReallyDeadMontage of his farewell towards them and the bonds he had with them, it only applies to Naki and to a lesser extent, Jin, since he never interacted with Horobi and Ikazuchi beyond when they were enemies, making the flashbacks where he is clearly antagonizing them jarring]].
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* ContestedSequel: Of the ''Others'' duology, ''Metsubojinrai'' is generally regarded as a decent film on its own for introducing the LoveToHate-material Lyon Arkland and the [[EvilIsCool intimidating]] Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai. ''Vulcan & Valkyrie'' by contrast is generally looked down upon for its disregard of the previous film's story beats, the abyssmal implementation of Valkyrie Serval Tiger and a HappyEndingOverride that [[spoiler: [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome kills off a majority of the cast for little reason]]]] while trampling upon the season finale's [[LostAesop already-murky attempts]] to explore the CycleOfRevenge in the process.

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* DesignatedHero: ''Vulcan & Valkyrie'' [[HandWave tip-toes around the fact]] that Metsubojinrai have been [[spoiler: forced into a HiveMind against their will and aren't in control of their actions]] in favor of the narrative that the berserk Rider's antagonism is [[spoiler: a deliberate SuicideByCop by its components]] meant to instigate further peace between Humans and Humagears.

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* ContestedSequel: Of the ''Others'' duology, ''Metsubojinrai'' is generally regarded as a decent film on its own for introducing the LoveToHate-material Lyon Arkland and the [[EvilIsCool intimidating]] Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai. ''Vulcan & Valkyrie'' by contrast is generally looked down upon for its disregard of the previous film's story beats, the abyssmal implementation of Valkyrie Serval Tiger and a HappyEndingOverride that [[spoiler: [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome kills off a majority of the cast for little reason]]]] while trampling upon the season finale's [[LostAesop already-murky attempts]] to explore the CycleOfRevenge in the process.
* DesignatedHero: ''Vulcan & Valkyrie'' [[HandWave tip-toes around the fact]] that Metsubojinrai have been [[spoiler: forced into a HiveMind against their will and aren't in control of their actions]] in favor of the narrative that the berserk Rider's antagonism is [[spoiler: a deliberate SuicideByCop by its components]] meant to instigate further peace between Humans and Humagears.
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** This has the side-effect of turning Isamu's rant to Sold 9 about the dangers of "justice" excusing terrible things into a DoubleStandard, as Isamu's [[spoiler: LastStand against the Rider gestalt only comes about because he [[FailedASpotCheck ignores the signs]] they're FightingFromTheInside to convince himself they're [[GenghisGambit trying to die]]]]; the idea of trying something else first [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot not even crossing his mind]]. The end-result [[spoiler: leads to the now-infamous DownerEnding that gets everyone involved senselessly destroyed]].

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** This has the side-effect of turning Isamu's rant to Sold 9 about the dangers of "justice" excusing terrible things into a DoubleStandard, as Isamu's [[spoiler: LastStand against the Rider gestalt only comes about because he [[FailedASpotCheck ignores the signs]] they're FightingFromTheInside to convince himself they're [[GenghisGambit trying to die]]]]; the idea of trying something else first [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot not even crossing his mind]].mind. The end-result [[spoiler: leads to the now-infamous DownerEnding that gets everyone involved senselessly destroyed]].
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** This has the side-effect of turning Isamu's rant to Sold 20 about the dangers of "justice" excusing terrible things into a DoubleStandard, as Isamu's [[spoiler: LastStand against the Rider gestalt only comes about because he [[FailedASpotCheck ignores the signs]] they're FightingFromTheInside to convince himself they're [[GenghisGambit trying to die]]]]; the idea of trying something else first [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot not even crossing his mind]]. The end-result [[spoiler: leads to the now-infamous DownerEnding that gets everyone involved senselessly destroyed]].

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** This has the side-effect of turning Isamu's rant to Sold 20 9 about the dangers of "justice" excusing terrible things into a DoubleStandard, as Isamu's [[spoiler: LastStand against the Rider gestalt only comes about because he [[FailedASpotCheck ignores the signs]] they're FightingFromTheInside to convince himself they're [[GenghisGambit trying to die]]]]; the idea of trying something else first [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot not even crossing his mind]]. The end-result [[spoiler: leads to the now-infamous DownerEnding that gets everyone involved senselessly destroyed]].
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** This has the side-effect of turning Isamu's rant to Sold 20 about the dangers of "justice" excusing terrible things into a DoubleStandard, as Isamu's [[spoiler: LastStand against the Rider gestalt only comes about because he [[FailedASpotCheck ignores the signs]] they're FightingFromTheInside to convince himself they're [[GenghisGambit trying to die]]]]; the idea of trying something else first [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot not even crossing his mind]]. The end-result [[spoiler: leads to the now-infamous DownerEnding that gets everyone involved senselessly destroyed]].
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** Solds 9 and 20 are set up as newly-independent Humagears [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman questioning themselves and their existences]]. Instead of developing their own outlooks on life with help from their predecessors, the reverse happens - The duo spend the entire film [[AudienceSurrogate being preached to by Fuwa and Yaiba]] to demonstrate the CharacterDevelopment the two A.I.M.S. Riders carried over from the show. Each of them receive a RousingSpeech and take some sort of critical damage [[GenerationXerox in defense of said Rider's philosophy]] ([[spoiler: 9 getting roughed up by the Rebels and 20 protecting Yaiba from the berserk Rider]]) before relinquishing their TransformationTrinket and being DemotedToExtra. The ending attempts to HandWave this with the implication they've "[[spoiler: inherited Metsubojinrai's will," yet the two Solds remain silent and motionless in the background of Yua's HistoryRepeatsItself speech]] like the mindless soldiers they started out as.
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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: The film is Anvilicious about the CycleOfRevenge, but [[spoiler: [[HardTruthAesop eliminating the sources of the conflict]] [[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer did break said cycle]]]].

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* AlternateAesopInterpretation: The film is Anvilicious {{Anvilicious}} about the CycleOfRevenge, but [[spoiler: [[HardTruthAesop eliminating the sources of the conflict]] [[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer did break said cycle]]]].
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* AccidentalAesop: [[HardTruthAesop Sometimes]] [[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer peace can only come about from conflict]].

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* AccidentalAesop: AlternateAesopInterpretation: The film is Anvilicious about the CycleOfRevenge, but [[spoiler: [[HardTruthAesop Sometimes]] eliminating the sources of the conflict]] [[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer peace can only come about from conflict]].did break said cycle]]]].
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* AccidentalAesop: [[HardTruthAesop Sometimes]] [[ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer peace can only come about from conflict]].

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While ''Others'' is generally regarded as a decent duology of films, they're also seen as bit overly gratuitous. The series and movie were borderline {{Anvilicious}} about the CycleOfRevenge and how it can be perpetuated by retaliatory acts of vengeance and scummy manipulators. ''Others'' essentially [[LostAesop reverses this stance]] and treats KR Metsubojinrai's RoaringRampageOfRevenge as the answer to everyone's problems - [[spoiler: killing (literally or figuratively) everyone instrumental to societal change]] and treating the [[spoiler: demolition of just about every outlet]] as a step toward peace by the end; effectively pushing a bleaker message that overrides the themes ''Zero-One'' ended on.



** Fuwa's interpretation of Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai as [[spoiler: a collective suicide perpetuated by the organization's members to facilitate further peace between Humans and Humagears]] is used almost solely to rally Isamu against the berserk Rider in a one-on-one duel. We never get to see how much of Metsubojinrai is left within the data of the berserk Rider and said Rider never says anything to give them a real motive beyond KillEmAll.

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** Fuwa's interpretation of Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai as [[spoiler: a collective suicide perpetuated by the organization's members to facilitate further peace between Humans and Humagears]] is used almost solely to rally Isamu against the berserk Rider in a one-on-one duel. We never get to see how much of Metsubojinrai is left within the data of the berserk Rider and said Rider never says anything to give them a real motive beyond KillEmAll.KillEmAll.
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: While ''Others'' is generally regarded as a decent duology of films, they're also seen as bit overly gratuitous. The series and movie were borderline {{Anvilicious}} about the CycleOfRevenge and how it can be perpetuated by retaliatory acts of vengeance and scummy manipulators. ''Others'' essentially [[LostAesop reverses this stance]] and treats KR Metsubojinrai's RoaringRampageOfRevenge as the answer to everyone's problems - [[spoiler: killing (literally or figuratively) everyone instrumental to societal change]] and treating the [[spoiler: demolition of just about every outlet]] as a step toward peace by the end; effectively pushing a bleaker message that overrides the themes ''Zero-One'' ended on.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While ''Others'' is generally regarded as a decent duology of films, they're also seen as bit overly gratuitous. The series and movie were borderline {{Anvilicious}} about the CycleOfRevenge and how it can be perpetuated by retaliatory acts of vengeance and scummy manipulators. ''Others'' essentially [[BrokenAesop reverses this stance]] and treats KR Metsubojinrai's RoaringRampageOfRevenge as the answer to everyone's problems - [[spoiler: killing (literally or figuratively) everyone instrumental to societal change]] and treating the [[spoiler: demolition of just about every outlet]] as a step toward peace by the end; undoing just about everything the media preceding it had been working towards for the sake of bizarre tragedy disconnected from everything else.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While ''Others'' is generally regarded as a decent duology of films, they're also seen as bit overly gratuitous. The series and movie were borderline {{Anvilicious}} about the CycleOfRevenge and how it can be perpetuated by retaliatory acts of vengeance and scummy manipulators. ''Others'' essentially [[BrokenAesop [[LostAesop reverses this stance]] and treats KR Metsubojinrai's RoaringRampageOfRevenge as the answer to everyone's problems - [[spoiler: killing (literally or figuratively) everyone instrumental to societal change]] and treating the [[spoiler: demolition of just about every outlet]] as a step toward peace by the end; undoing just about everything effectively pushing a bleaker message that overrides the media preceding it had been working towards for the sake of bizarre tragedy disconnected from everything else.themes ''Zero-One'' ended on.
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* DesignatedHero: Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai's "goals" find themselves distorted by Fuwa. ''Vulcan & Valkyrie'' tip-toes around the fact that Metsubojinrai have been [[spoiler: forced into a HiveMind against their will and aren't in control of their actions]] in favor of the assumption that their antagonism is [[spoiler: a deliberate SuicideByCop]] meant to instigate further peace between Humans and Humagears.

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* DesignatedHero: Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai's "goals" find themselves distorted by Fuwa. ''Vulcan & Valkyrie'' [[HandWave tip-toes around the fact fact]] that Metsubojinrai have been [[spoiler: forced into a HiveMind against their will and aren't in control of their actions]] in favor of the assumption narrative that their the berserk Rider's antagonism is [[spoiler: a deliberate SuicideByCop]] SuicideByCop by its components]] meant to instigate further peace between Humans and Humagears. Humagears.
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Ass pull entry isn't one; the fact called out is in fact the same one used in the main series after Hiden Intelligence gets taken over by ZAIA to let Aruto still be Zero-One.


* AssPull: The revelation that anyone who's a company president can use a Zero-One Driver, even if they just founded it purely to be able to use one. For how CrazyPrepared Korenosuke Hiden was, you'd think he would have overlooked such an obvious loophole.

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* DesignatedHero: Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai's "goals" find themselves distorted by Fuwa. ''Vulcan & Valkyrie'' tip-toes around the fact that Metsubojinrai have been [[spoiler: forced into a HiveMind against their will and aren't in control of their actions]] in favor of the assumption that their antagonism is [[spoiler: a deliberate SuicideByCop]] meant to instigate further peace between Humans and Humagears.



** KR Metsu's "goals" too are distorted by Fuwa. ''Vulcan & Valkyrie'' tip-toes around the fact that Metsubojinrai have been [[spoiler: forced into a HiveMind against their will and aren't in control of their actions]] in favor of the assumption that their antagonism is [[spoiler: a deliberate SuicideByCop]] meant to instigate further peace between Humans and Humagears.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While ''Others'' is generally regarded as a decent duology of films, they're also seen as bit overly gratuitous. The series and movie were borderline {{Anvilicious}} about the CycleOfRevenge and how it can be perpetuated by retaliatory acts of vengeance and scummy manipulators. ''Others'' essentially [[BrokenAesop reverses this stance]] and treats KR Metsubojinrai's RoaringRampageOfRevenge as the answer to everyone's problems - [spoiler: killing (literally or figuratively) everyone instrumental to societal change]] and treating the [[spoiler: demolition of just about every outlet]] as a step toward peace by the end; undoing just about everything the media preceding it had been working towards for the sake of bizarre tragedy disconnected from everything else.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While ''Others'' is generally regarded as a decent duology of films, they're also seen as bit overly gratuitous. The series and movie were borderline {{Anvilicious}} about the CycleOfRevenge and how it can be perpetuated by retaliatory acts of vengeance and scummy manipulators. ''Others'' essentially [[BrokenAesop reverses this stance]] and treats KR Metsubojinrai's RoaringRampageOfRevenge as the answer to everyone's problems - [spoiler: [[spoiler: killing (literally or figuratively) everyone instrumental to societal change]] and treating the [[spoiler: demolition of just about every outlet]] as a step toward peace by the end; undoing just about everything the media preceding it had been working towards for the sake of bizarre tragedy disconnected from everything else.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While ''Others'' is generally regarded as a decent duology of films, they're also seen as bit overly gratuitous. The series and movie were borderline {{Anvilicious}} about the ViciousCycle of hatred and how it can be perpetuated by retaliatory acts of vengeance and scummy manipulators. ''Others'' essentially [[BrokenAesop reverses this stance]] and treats KR Metsubojinrai's RoaringRampageOfRevenge as the answer to everyone's problems; [[spoiler: killing (literally or figuratively) everyone instrumental to societal change]] and treating the [[spoiler: demolition of just about every outlet]] as a step toward peace by the end; undoing just about everything the media preceding it had been working towards for the sake of bizarre tragedy quite disconnected from everything else.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While ''Others'' is generally regarded as a decent duology of films, they're also seen as bit overly gratuitous. The series and movie were borderline {{Anvilicious}} about the ViciousCycle of hatred CycleOfRevenge and how it can be perpetuated by retaliatory acts of vengeance and scummy manipulators. ''Others'' essentially [[BrokenAesop reverses this stance]] and treats KR Metsubojinrai's RoaringRampageOfRevenge as the answer to everyone's problems; [[spoiler: problems - [spoiler: killing (literally or figuratively) everyone instrumental to societal change]] and treating the [[spoiler: demolition of just about every outlet]] as a step toward peace by the end; undoing just about everything the media preceding it had been working towards for the sake of bizarre tragedy quite disconnected from everything else.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Despite the film being titled "Vulcan and Valkyrie", we never get a scene of Vulcan ''and'' Valkyrie fighting together with their new forms.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Despite the film being titled "Vulcan and Valkyrie", we never get a scene of Vulcan ''and'' Valkyrie fighting together with their new forms.forms.
** Fuwa's interpretation of Kamen Rider Metsubojinrai as [[spoiler: a collective suicide perpetuated by the organization's members to facilitate further peace between Humans and Humagears]] is used almost solely to rally Isamu against the berserk Rider in a one-on-one duel. We never get to see how much of Metsubojinrai is left within the data of the berserk Rider and said Rider never says anything to give them a real motive beyond KillEmAll.
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** KR Metsu's "goals" too are distorted by Fuwa. ''Vulcan & Valkyrie'' tip-toes around the fact that Metsubojinrai have been [[spoiler: forced into a HiveMind against their will and aren't in control of their actions]] in favor of the assumption that their antagonism is [[spoiler: a deliberate SuicideByCop]] meant to instigate further peace between Humans and Humagears.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While ''Others'' is generally regarded as a decent duology of films, they're also seen as bit overly gratuitous. The series and movie were borderline {{Anvilicious}} about the ViciousCycle of hatred and how it can be perpetuated by retaliatory acts of vengeance and scummy manipulators. ''Others'' essentially [[BrokenAesop reverses this stance]] and treats KR Metsubojinrai's RoaringRampageOfRevenge as the answer to everyone's problems; [[spoiler: killing (literally or figuratively) everyone instrumental to societal change]] and treating the [[spoiler: demolition of just about every outlet]] as a step toward peace; undoing just about everything the media preceding it had been working towards for the sake of bizarre tragedy quite disconnected from everything leading up to it.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While ''Others'' is generally regarded as a decent duology of films, they're also seen as bit overly gratuitous. The series and movie were borderline {{Anvilicious}} about the ViciousCycle of hatred and how it can be perpetuated by retaliatory acts of vengeance and scummy manipulators. ''Others'' essentially [[BrokenAesop reverses this stance]] and treats KR Metsubojinrai's RoaringRampageOfRevenge as the answer to everyone's problems; [[spoiler: killing (literally or figuratively) everyone instrumental to societal change]] and treating the [[spoiler: demolition of just about every outlet]] as a step toward peace; peace by the end; undoing just about everything the media preceding it had been working towards for the sake of bizarre tragedy quite disconnected from everything leading up to it.else.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: While ''Others'' is generally regarded as a decent duology of films, they're also seen as bit overly gratuitous. The series and movie were borderline {{Anvilicious}} about the ViciousCycle of hatred and how it can be perpetuated by retaliatory acts of vengeance and scummy manipulators. ''Others'' essentially [[BrokenAesop reverses this stance]] and treats KR Metsubojinrai's RoaringRampageOfRevenge as the answer to everyone's problems; [[spoiler: killing (literally or figuratively) everyone instrumental to societal change]] and treating the [[spoiler: demolition of just about every outlet]] as a step toward peace; undoing just about everything the media preceding it had been working towards for the sake of bizarre tragedy quite disconnected from everything leading up to it.
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* AssPull: The revelation that anyone who's a company president can use a Zero-One Driver, even if they just founded it purely to be able to use one. For how CrazyPrepared Korenosuke Hiden was, you'd think he would have overlooked such an obvious loophole.
* DesignatedVillain: While not a villain, the secretary of defense is clearly meant to be seen as an antagonistic figure in the film, yet he isn't wrong for wanting to fulfill the campaign promises he was elected on, nor is he technically incorrect that AI being given free will is what caused the whole mess in the first place.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Valkyrie is horrendously underutilized in this film, despite being half the title. [[spoiler:She gets only one fight as Justice Serval that ends with her losing her ability to transform, and she only does temporary damage to Metsuboujinrai's Driver that ends up being easily repaired.]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Despite the film being titled "Vulcan and Valkyrie", we never get a scene of Vulcan ''and'' Valkyrie fighting together with their new forms.

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