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* CompleteMonster: [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Dr. Wellesley Eno]], the diabolical [[BigBad Weather Man]], uses [[WeatherControlMachine technology capable of manipulating the weather]] to enact various disasters across New Metro City that put countless lives at risk. After failing to convince his empowered employee, Tori "Ice" Olafsdotter, to join him, Eno attempts to trap her and the Justice League and then cook them all alive with a heatwave, before unleashing a tidal wave to flood the city unless he's paid a hefty ransom. When instead confronted by the heroes, Eno destroys his own technology so the tsunami can't be stopped, damning the city with a grin on his face.
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** ComicBook/MartianManhunter has never hold a solid series and just tends to bounce between whatever comic has room for him. However, his status as TheHeart of the Justice League, his varied array of powers and the interesting background he comes from make him a favourite among fans. When he was removed from the Justice League founding line-up in ComicBook/TheNew52 fans were pissed, to put it lightly.
** ComicBook/{{Vixen}} remains one of the most popular black superheroines due to in no part being [[FairForItsDay very progressive for her era]], having very interesting powers and having a [[NavelDeepNeckline quite sexy outfit.]]
** ComicBook/PlasticMan might be DC's textbook CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass. It helps he is also hilarious when written by a competent writer. Hell, he is even loved by friggin' Creator/ArtSpiegelman, and he hates superheroes.

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%%** Snapper Carr, in ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'' and the late-'90s ''ComicBook/{{Hourman}}'' series.
%%** Creator/GrantMorrison's run did this for [[Franchise/GreenLantern Kyle Rayner]].

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%%** Snapper Carr, in ''ComicBook/YoungJustice'' and the late-'90s ''ComicBook/{{Hourman}}'' series.
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** The earliest comics had Snapper Carr, a “hip” teenager intended as an audience surrogate and team mascot. Carr is nearly forgotten today, and for good reason.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Red Tornado is the biggest case among the 60s Leaguers. His big character struggle can be summed up rather quickly as "[[BecomeARealBoy robot who wants to be human]]", and most of his appearances deal with that plot and his feelings about it, even going back to the Silver Age. Because of this, the fandom can be divided pretty neatly into finding his struggle a tragic TearJerker who provides his appearances with an emotional core uncommon for ''Justice League'' stories of their time, and finding him to be an irritating ball of {{Wangst}} who does little but cry and lose fights.



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* VindicatedByHistory: In retrospect, Vibe wasn't ''that'' bad. He just needed some work.
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* DesignatedHero: The Justice League utterly fail to [[spoiler: figure out who the Weatherman is]] and need Tori to [[spoiler: discover it for them]]. In addition, the Atom reveals they planning on [[spoiler: [[AnOfferYouCantRefuse doing something horrible to Tori if she didn't join them]]]] because [[spoiler: she knows their secret identities... [[Main/{{Jerkass}} while ignoring she only learned their secret identities because they told her]].]]
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** The earliest comics had Snapper Carr, a “hip” teenager intended as an audience surrogate and team mascot. Carr is nearly forgotten today, and for good reason.
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&& Tomorrow Woman of Creator/GrantMorrison's run on ''[[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]]''. Originally debuting and making a HeroicSacrifice in the same issue, she was so popular she reappeared in a special one-shot dedicated to her, was briefly brought back in ''ComicBook/{{Hourman}}'' #2 by the main character, and then was brought back in ''Trinity'', [[spoiler: where she was permanently revived as a human woman with superpowers after the series ended]]. She even received a DC Direct action figure in the early years of the toyline (even before big name Leaguers such as Aquaman and Flash).

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&& ** Tomorrow Woman of Creator/GrantMorrison's run on ''[[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]]''. Originally debuting and making a HeroicSacrifice in the same issue, she was so popular she reappeared in a special one-shot dedicated to her, was briefly brought back in ''ComicBook/{{Hourman}}'' #2 by the main character, and then was brought back in ''Trinity'', [[spoiler: where she was permanently revived as a human woman with superpowers after the series ended]]. She even received a DC Direct action figure in the early years of the toyline (even before big name Leaguers such as Aquaman and Flash).
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* AudienceAlienatingEra: The most famous of the fallow periods is probably the time of the informally-named "Justice League Detroit." An attempt to FollowTheLeader of the success of books like ''ComicBook/WestCoastAvengers'', the book had the classic lineup disbanding after the satellite was put out of commission, and reforming as a new team that operated out of Detroit, including introducing a new batch of characters. The intention was to scale back the team's traditional high powerscale and heavy use of A-listers in favor of character drama with a more obscure and malleable cast, but common appraisal was that the book's more low-key storylines made it a poor replacement for the classic League, and the new characters (particularly poor Vibe) weren't interesting or likeable enough to sell the book as soap opera. That said, its last arc, involving the return of Despero, is still the character's most iconic storyline, and helped transition into the better-received ''JLI'' era.



* DorkAge: The Detroit-era is generally (though not ''universally'') held as a low point in the League's history.

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** Vibe, a member during its [[SeasonalRot "Detroit" era]], was widely hated for being a "hip", slang-spouting caricature of Puerto Rican youth whose power was basically super-breakdancing. His inevitable death, though, is one of [[AlasPoorScrappy the saddest moments]] in the League's history. Ironically enough, in the New 52 continuity, he's been given a big push by the company and is already enjoying [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap more popularity than his original ever did]].

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** Vibe, a member during its [[SeasonalRot "Detroit" era]], was widely hated for being a "hip", slang-spouting caricature of Puerto Rican youth whose power was basically super-breakdancing. Though few of the "Detroit" Leaguers were popular, with Vixen being the only standout, Vibe ended up being the headliner of the book's issues. His inevitable death, though, is one of [[AlasPoorScrappy the saddest moments]] in the League's history. Ironically enough, in the New 52 continuity, he's been he was given a big push by the company and is already enjoying [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap ended up being considerably more popularity than his original ever did]].well-liked, though it proved short-lived.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Tomorrow Woman of Creator/GrantMorrison's run on ''[[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]]''. Originally debuting and making a HeroicSacrifice in the same issue, she was so popular she reappeared in a special one-shot dedicated to her, was briefly brought back in ''ComicBook/{{Hourman}}'' #2 by the main character, and then was brought back in ''Trinity'', [[spoiler: where she was permanently revived as a human woman with superpowers after the series ended]]. She even received a DC Direct action figure in the early years of the toyline (even before big name Leaguers such as Aquaman and Flash).

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Tomorrow Woman of Creator/GrantMorrison's run on ''[[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]]''. Originally debuting and making a HeroicSacrifice in the same issue, she was so popular she reappeared in a special one-shot dedicated to her, was briefly brought back in ''ComicBook/{{Hourman}}'' #2 by the main character, and then was brought back in ''Trinity'', [[spoiler: where she was permanently revived as a human woman with superpowers after the series ended]]. She even received a DC Direct action figure in the early years of the toyline (even before big name Leaguers such as Aquaman and Flash).Flash).
** Silver Sorceress is often remembered as just a short-lived CaptainErsatz of Scarlet Witch, but many fans were impressed by how she constantly averts AngstWhatAngst about the destruction of her home world but has some WhenSheSmiles moments and has a memorable final battle with Dreamslayer. She has a fair amount of fan art despite not being an overtly fanservice-y hero.
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* {{Narm}}: The circumstances causing John Stewart to join the League as Hal's replacement. See, Hal was unable to attend a summons. Was he held up with work? Personal problems? A super-villain attack? His duties as a Green Lantern? Uh... no. He slipped on a bar of soap in the shower, because he wasn't looking where he was standing.

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* {{Narm}}: The circumstances causing John Stewart to join the League as Hal's replacement. See, replacement: Hal was unable to attend a summons. Was summons because he held up with work? Personal problems? A super-villain attack? His duties as a Green Lantern? Uh... no. He slipped on a bar of soap in the shower, because he wasn't looking where he was standing.shower.

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He was never a minor character. Even if we consider only the New 52 era which demoted him to extra, he still plays an important role as a member of Waller's JLA.


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** Tomorrow Woman of Creator/GrantMorrison's run on ''[[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]]''. Originally debuting and making a HeroicSacrifice in the same issue, she was so popular she reappeared in a special one-shot dedicated to her, was briefly brought back in ''ComicBook/{{Hourman}}'' #2 by the main character, and then was brought back in ''Trinity'', [[spoiler: where she was permanently revived as a human woman with superpowers after the series ended]]. She even received a DC Direct action figure in the early years of the toyline (even before big name Leaguers such as Aquaman and Flash).
** Once he was retconned out of being a founding member in the New 52, Martian Manhunter defaulted into this role. It's almost impossible to find a discussion regarding the New 52 League and not have someone bring up wanting J'onn back to replace Cyborg. Many fans collectively rejoiced when J'onn was finally added back to the lineup with the 2018 relaunch.

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EnsembleDarkhorse: Tomorrow Woman of Creator/GrantMorrison's run on ''[[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]]''. Originally debuting and making a HeroicSacrifice in the same issue, she was so popular she reappeared in a special one-shot dedicated to her, was briefly brought back in ''ComicBook/{{Hourman}}'' #2 by the main character, and then was brought back in ''Trinity'', [[spoiler: where she was permanently revived as a human woman with superpowers after the series ended]]. She even received a DC Direct action figure in the early years of the toyline (even before big name Leaguers such as Aquaman and Flash).
** Once he was retconned out of being a founding member in the New 52, Martian Manhunter defaulted into this role. It's almost impossible to find a discussion regarding the New 52 League and not have someone bring up wanting J'onn back to replace Cyborg. Many fans collectively rejoiced when J'onn was finally added back to the lineup with the 2018 relaunch.
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* FoeYay: Max's charmingly creepy [[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueGenerationLost JL:GL]] “I miss you" monologue to ComicBook/BoosterGold, delivered while lovingly beating Booster half to death with a pipe.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: A ''Justice League'' series that ''didn't'' feature Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman? No wonder it didn't catch on. To be fair, it's worth noting that the run the series is based on didn't feature the latter two either, and Batman didn't appear because Creator/WarnerBros were concerned about diluting the brand by having too many screen versions of the character at once (with ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' released that year, ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' still airing in the form of feature-length specials, and ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' already in the planning stages).

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: A ''Justice League'' series that ''didn't'' feature Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman? No wonder it didn't catch on. To be fair, it's worth noting that the run the series is based on didn't feature the latter two either, and Batman didn't appear because Creator/WarnerBros were concerned (at the time at least) about diluting the brand by having too many screen versions of the character at once (with ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' released that year, ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' still airing in the form of feature-length specials, and ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' already in the planning stages).

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* ''YMMV/JusticeLeague2017''
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: A ''Justice League'' series that ''didn't'' feature Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman? [[SarcasmMode Gee, we wonder why it didn't catch on]].
** To be fair, it's worth noting that the run the series is based on only had Batman for the majority of it[[note]]due to both Superman and Wonder Woman having new origins, they weren't members until later in the run[[/note]]. Then why wasn't he present, you might ask? Blame ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' - Creator/WarnerBros had a strict policy of only allowing one live-action incarnation of Batman at a time, and theatrical films got first dibs on him.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: A ''Justice League'' series that ''didn't'' feature Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman? [[SarcasmMode Gee, we No wonder why it didn't catch on]].
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on. To be fair, it's worth noting that the run the series is based on only had didn't feature the latter two either, and Batman for didn't appear because Creator/WarnerBros were concerned about diluting the majority of it[[note]]due to both Superman and Wonder Woman brand by having new origins, they weren't members until later in too many screen versions of the run[[/note]]. Then why wasn't he present, you might ask? Blame character at once (with ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' - Creator/WarnerBros had a strict policy released that year, ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' still airing in the form of only allowing feature-length specials, and ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' already in the planning stages).
* SpecialEffectFailure: While David Ogden Stiers may have been
one live-action incarnation of Batman the few actors to take his role seriously, he apparently drew the line at a time, and theatrical films got first dibs on him.shaving off his beard, resulting it in very noticeably being covered by make-up in the same way that Creator/CesarRomero's moustache was in ''Series/Batman1966''.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Creator/DavidOgdenStiers is the only actor who tries to give his part the gravitas you'd expect from a serious ''Justice League'' adaptation, instead of the more sitcom-esque performances that the rest of the cast go for.
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* CompleteMonster:
** Pre-Crisis:
*** Issue #71 ("... And So, My World Ends") & in a flashback in issue #144 ("The Origin of the Justice League--Minus One!"): The bloodthirsty [[InsaneAdmiral Commander Benn Blanx]] is the EvilCounterpart and ArchEnemy of [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter J'onn J'onnz]]. Blanx restarts a war between two races of Martians and exiles J'onn, whom he later tracks to Earth to kill, murdering countless humans in the process. Becoming the planet's dictator, Blanx uses the powerful Blue Flame to set all of Mars ablaze, leaving the civilization in ruins and leading to J'onn returning to find his people on the verge of extinction. When J'onn demands an explanation for Blanx's cruelty, Blanx reveals [[{{Greed}} a mining corporation offered to purchase the planet]] from Blanx, but he had to be "the last living Martian".
*** Issues #73 & #74 ("Star Light, Star Bright--Death Star I See Tonight!" & "Where Death Fears to Tread!"): The evil star-like being [[SentientStars Aquarius]] swept through existence, sowing chaos and destruction until his people judged and exiled him. Coming to Earth, Aquarius [[TheCorrupter sways people to chaos and murder]] until he faces the Justice League, trying to annihilate the Earth before he [[OmnicidalManiac wipes out existence]]. At last, Aquarius simply wipes out the entire universe before seeking another to destroy, even trying to use the Justice League to kill their counterparts on another world, all for his own amusement.
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*** [[PersonOfMassDestruction Despero]] is one of the oldest enemies of the Justice League. Having [[{{Patricide}} murdered his father]] to take control of his world, Despero never recovered his pride after the League defeated him. [[ThePowerOfHate Rebuilding himself into a savage beast]], Despero invaded Earth, taking joy in slaughtering the humans he could while [[OmnicidalManiac attempting to wipe out every living thing]], returning multiple times to try again. Resuming his role as a GalacticConqueror, Despero has conquered dozens of worlds and destroyed many others, with billions of dead to his name, even attempting to trick other aliens into annihilating Earth out of sheer spite against the heroes he so loathes.
*** [[EvilSorcerer Felix Faust]] is one of the most power-hungry sorcerers alive. Kicking off his career by selling his infant son's soul for his own ability, Faust committed many acts of cruel murder and torture to fuel his black magic. When he finally realized he could no longer bargain with his own tainted soul, Faust resorted to harvesting the soul of an innocent little girl to trade to demons. Faust offered his assistance to Black Adam to help resurrect Black Adam's wife Isis, but deceived Adam into thinking Isis's revival had failed, while Faust kept a paralyzed Isis to serve as his personal sex toy.
*** "The Teasdale Imperative" [[labelnote:Issues]]''Justice League America'' & ''[[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational Justice League Europe]]'' October-November 1989 issues[[/labelnote]]: The second Gray Man is defined by {{ambition|Is Evil}} and causeless sadism that his [[IJustWantToBeNormal predecessor]] lacked. Gray Man II saves a MadScientist named Irwin Teasdale from death at the hands of Simon Stagg, and uses Teasdale's knowledge to start spreading a virus through eastern Europe that reduces the infected to zombies in all but name. After reducing the population of entire villages to his shambling slaves, Gray Man II directs themselves to start committing suicide by the dozens to [[SoulEating devour their souls]] and empower himself. Through this method Gray Man II intends to displace the Lords of Order and seize all creation by compelling humanity into global suicide, and the first thing he does with his swelling power is to squish Teasdale under his foot for an earlier [[YouHaveFailedMe failure]].
*** ''ComicBook/JLAEarth2'': ComicBook/{{Brainiac}}'s [[MirrorUniverse Antimatter Universe]] counterpart, an organic syntellect who was captured by Ultraman and forced to be his slave, schemed to not only escape his bonds, but to upgrade himself into an "Nth Level Intelligence". In order to do this, he swapped a plane in the Antimatter Universe for one in the Matter Universe, killing all the passengers on both in the process, and triggering a war between the Justice League and the Crime Syndicate. While the teams were busy fighting, Brainiac set in motion a plan to merge the Matter and Antimatter Universes, a move that would have resulted in the [[OmnicidalManiac annihilation of all reality]], plotting to use the energy from the resultant explosion to complete his upgrade and [[AGodAmI become a god]]. Willing to destroy all life in order to better himself, Antimatter Brainiac was every bit as vile as his Matter Universe twin.

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* CompleteMonster:
** Pre-Crisis:
*** Issue #71 ("... And So, My World Ends") & in a flashback in issue #144 ("The Origin of the Justice League--Minus One!"): The bloodthirsty [[InsaneAdmiral Commander Benn Blanx]] is the EvilCounterpart and ArchEnemy of [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter J'onn J'onnz]]. Blanx restarts a war between two races of Martians and exiles J'onn, whom he later tracks to Earth to kill, murdering countless humans in the process. Becoming the planet's dictator, Blanx uses the powerful Blue Flame to set all of Mars ablaze, leaving the civilization in ruins and leading to J'onn returning to find his people on the verge of extinction. When J'onn demands an explanation for Blanx's cruelty, Blanx reveals [[{{Greed}} a mining corporation offered to purchase the planet]] from Blanx, but he had to be "the last living Martian".
*** Issues #73 & #74 ("Star Light, Star Bright--Death Star I
CompleteMonster: See Tonight!" & "Where Death Fears to Tread!"): The evil star-like being [[SentientStars Aquarius]] swept through existence, sowing chaos and destruction until his people judged and exiled him. Coming to Earth, Aquarius [[TheCorrupter sways people to chaos and murder]] until he faces the Justice League, trying to annihilate the Earth before he [[OmnicidalManiac wipes out existence]]. At last, Aquarius simply wipes out the entire universe before seeking another to destroy, even trying to use the Justice League to kill their counterparts on another world, all for his own amusement.
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*** [[PersonOfMassDestruction Despero]] is one of the oldest enemies of the Justice League. Having [[{{Patricide}} murdered his father]] to take control of his world, Despero never recovered his pride after the League defeated him. [[ThePowerOfHate Rebuilding himself into a savage beast]], Despero invaded Earth, taking joy in slaughtering the humans he could while [[OmnicidalManiac attempting to wipe out every living thing]], returning multiple times to try again. Resuming his role as a GalacticConqueror, Despero has conquered dozens of worlds and destroyed many others, with billions of dead to his name, even attempting to trick other aliens into annihilating Earth out of sheer spite against the heroes he so loathes.
*** [[EvilSorcerer Felix Faust]] is one of the most power-hungry sorcerers alive. Kicking off his career by selling his infant son's soul for his own ability, Faust committed many acts of cruel murder and torture to fuel his black magic. When he finally realized he could no longer bargain with his own tainted soul, Faust resorted to harvesting the soul of an innocent little girl to trade to demons. Faust offered his assistance to Black Adam to help resurrect Black Adam's wife Isis, but deceived Adam into thinking Isis's revival had failed, while Faust kept a paralyzed Isis to serve as his personal sex toy.
*** "The Teasdale Imperative" [[labelnote:Issues]]''Justice League America'' & ''[[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational Justice League Europe]]'' October-November 1989 issues[[/labelnote]]: The second Gray Man is defined by {{ambition|Is Evil}} and causeless sadism that his [[IJustWantToBeNormal predecessor]] lacked. Gray Man II saves a MadScientist named Irwin Teasdale from death at the hands of Simon Stagg, and uses Teasdale's knowledge to start spreading a virus through eastern Europe that reduces the infected to zombies in all but name. After reducing the population of entire villages to his shambling slaves, Gray Man II directs themselves to start committing suicide by the dozens to [[SoulEating devour their souls]] and empower himself. Through this method Gray Man II intends to displace the Lords of Order and seize all creation by compelling humanity into global suicide, and the first thing he does with his swelling power is to squish Teasdale under his foot for an earlier [[YouHaveFailedMe failure]].
*** ''ComicBook/JLAEarth2'': ComicBook/{{Brainiac}}'s [[MirrorUniverse Antimatter Universe]] counterpart, an organic syntellect who was captured by Ultraman and forced to be his slave, schemed to not only escape his bonds, but to upgrade himself into an "Nth Level Intelligence". In order to do this, he swapped a plane in the Antimatter Universe for one in the Matter Universe, killing all the passengers on both in the process, and triggering a war between the Justice League and the Crime Syndicate. While the teams were busy fighting, Brainiac set in motion a plan to merge the Matter and Antimatter Universes, a move that would have resulted in the [[OmnicidalManiac annihilation of all reality]], plotting to use the energy from the resultant explosion to complete his upgrade and [[AGodAmI become a god]]. Willing to destroy all life in order to better himself, Antimatter Brainiac was every bit as vile as his Matter Universe twin.
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** Fans and editorial alike ''loathed'' Triumph. According to creator Christopher Priest, they [[CompletelyMissingThePoint missed the point]] that he was ''supposed'' to be a jerk.

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** To be fair, it's worth noting that the run the series is based on only had Batman for the majority of it[[note]]due to both Superman and Wonder Woman having new origins, they weren't members until later in the run[[/note]]. Then why wasn't he present, you might ask? Blame ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' - Warner Bros had a strict policy of only allowing one live-action incarnation of Batman at a time, and films got first dibs on him.
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*** "The Teasdale Imperative" [[labelnote:Issues]]''Justice League America'' & ''[[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational Justice League Europe]]'' October-November 1989 issues[[/labelnote]]: The second Gray Man is defined by {{ambition|Is Evil}} and causeless sadism that his [[IJustWantToBeNormal predecessor]] lacked. Gray Man II saves a MadScientist named Irwin Teasdale from death at the hands of Simon Stagg, and uses Teasdale's knowledge to start spreading a virus through eastern Europe that reduces the infected to zombies in all but name. After reducing the population of entire villages to his shambling slaves, Gray Man II directs themselves to start committing suicide by the dozens to [[SoulEating devour their souls]] and empower himself. Through this method Gray Man II intends to displace the Lords of Order and seize all creation by compelling humanity into global suicide, and the first thing he does with his swelling power is to squish Teasdale under his foot for an earlier [[YouHaveFailedMe failure]].
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** To be fair, it's worth noting that the run the series is based on only had Batman for the majority of it[[note]]due to both Superman and Wonder Woman having new origins, they weren't members until later in the run[[/note]]. Then why wasn't he present, you might ask? Blame ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' - Warner Bros has a strict policy of only allowing 1 live-action incarnation of Batman at a time, and films get first dibs on him.

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** To be fair, it's worth noting that the run the series is based on only had Batman for the majority of it[[note]]due to both Superman and Wonder Woman having new origins, they weren't members until later in the run[[/note]]. Then why wasn't he present, you might ask? Blame ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' - Warner Bros has had a strict policy of only allowing 1 one live-action incarnation of Batman at a time, and films get got first dibs on him.

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*** The bloodthirsty [[InsaneAdmiral Commander Benn Blanx]], from issue #71 ("... And So, My World Ends") and in a flashback in issue #144 ("The Origin of the Justice League--Minus One!"), is the EvilCounterpart and ArchEnemy of [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter J'onn J'onnz]]. Blanx restarts a war between two races of Martians and exiles J'onn, whom he later tracks to Earth to kill, murdering countless humans in the process. Becoming the planet's dictator, Blanx uses the powerful Blue Flame to set all of Mars ablaze, leaving the civilization in ruins and leading to J'onn returning to find his people on the verge of extinction. When J'onn demands an explanation for Blanx's cruelty, Blanx reveals [[{{Greed}} a mining corporation offered to purchase the planet]] from Blanx, but he had to be "the last living Martian".
*** The evil star-like being [[SentientStars Aquarius]], from issues #73 and #74 ("Star Light, Star Bright--Death Star I See Tonight!" & "Where Death Fears to Tread!"), swept through existence, sowing chaos and destruction until his people judged and exiled him. Coming to Earth, Aquarius [[TheCorrupter sways people to chaos and murder]] until he faces the Justice League, trying to annihilate the Earth before he [[OmnicidalManiac wipes out existence]]. At last, Aquarius simply wipes out the entire universe before seeking another to destroy, even trying to use the Justice League to kill their counterparts on another world, all for his own amusement.

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*** The bloodthirsty [[InsaneAdmiral Commander Benn Blanx]], from issue Issue #71 ("... And So, My World Ends") and & in a flashback in issue #144 ("The Origin of the Justice League--Minus One!"), One!"): The bloodthirsty [[InsaneAdmiral Commander Benn Blanx]] is the EvilCounterpart and ArchEnemy of [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter J'onn J'onnz]]. Blanx restarts a war between two races of Martians and exiles J'onn, whom he later tracks to Earth to kill, murdering countless humans in the process. Becoming the planet's dictator, Blanx uses the powerful Blue Flame to set all of Mars ablaze, leaving the civilization in ruins and leading to J'onn returning to find his people on the verge of extinction. When J'onn demands an explanation for Blanx's cruelty, Blanx reveals [[{{Greed}} a mining corporation offered to purchase the planet]] from Blanx, but he had to be "the last living Martian".
*** The evil star-like being [[SentientStars Aquarius]], from issues Issues #73 and & #74 ("Star Light, Star Bright--Death Star I See Tonight!" & "Where Death Fears to Tread!"), Tread!"): The evil star-like being [[SentientStars Aquarius]] swept through existence, sowing chaos and destruction until his people judged and exiled him. Coming to Earth, Aquarius [[TheCorrupter sways people to chaos and murder]] until he faces the Justice League, trying to annihilate the Earth before he [[OmnicidalManiac wipes out existence]]. At last, Aquarius simply wipes out the entire universe before seeking another to destroy, even trying to use the Justice League to kill their counterparts on another world, all for his own amusement.

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* AlasPoorScrappy: While Detroit-era Vibe wasn't exactly popular, his death is so graphic and brutal most people tend to sympathise with him.

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* AlasPoorScrappy: While Detroit-era Vibe wasn't exactly popular, his death is so graphic and brutal most people tend to sympathise sympathize with him.


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* HarsherInHindsight: When Red Arrow first agreed to join the Justice League, he was told he'd never regret his decision. Given that his tenure with the team ultimately ended with [[spoiler: Roy losing his girlfriend Hawkgirl in ''Comicbook/BlackestNight'' and then his right arm and ''daughter'' in ''Cry for Justice'']], it's safe to say his life would've been far better off had he never joined the League.
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*** [[PersonOfMassDestruction Despero]] is one of the oldest enemies of the Justice League. Having [[{{Patricide}} murdered his father]] to take control of his world, Despero never recovered his pride after the League defeated him. [[ThePowerOfHate Rebuilding himself into a savage beast]], Despero invaded Earth, taking joy in slaughtering the humans he could while attempting to wipe out every living thing, returning multiple times to try again. Resuming his role as a GalacticConqueror, Despero has conquered dozens of worlds and destroyed many others, with billions of dead to his name, even attempting to trick other aliens into annihilating Earth out of sheer spite against the heroes he so loathes.

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*** [[PersonOfMassDestruction Despero]] is one of the oldest enemies of the Justice League. Having [[{{Patricide}} murdered his father]] to take control of his world, Despero never recovered his pride after the League defeated him. [[ThePowerOfHate Rebuilding himself into a savage beast]], Despero invaded Earth, taking joy in slaughtering the humans he could while [[OmnicidalManiac attempting to wipe out every living thing, thing]], returning multiple times to try again. Resuming his role as a GalacticConqueror, Despero has conquered dozens of worlds and destroyed many others, with billions of dead to his name, even attempting to trick other aliens into annihilating Earth out of sheer spite against the heroes he so loathes.
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*** [[PersonOfMassDestruction Despero]] is one of the oldest enemies of the Justice League. Having [[{{Patricide}} murdered his father]] to take control of his world, Despero never recovered his pride after the League defeated him. [[ThePowerOfHate Rebuilding himself into a savage beast]], Despero invaded Earth, taking joy in slaughtering the humans he could while attempting to wipe out every living thing, returning multiple times to try again. Resuming his role as a GalacticConqueror, Despero has conquered dozens of worlds and destroyed many others, with billions dead to his name, even attempting to trick other aliens into annihilating Earth out of sheer spite against the heroes he so loathes.

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*** [[PersonOfMassDestruction Despero]] is one of the oldest enemies of the Justice League. Having [[{{Patricide}} murdered his father]] to take control of his world, Despero never recovered his pride after the League defeated him. [[ThePowerOfHate Rebuilding himself into a savage beast]], Despero invaded Earth, taking joy in slaughtering the humans he could while attempting to wipe out every living thing, returning multiple times to try again. Resuming his role as a GalacticConqueror, Despero has conquered dozens of worlds and destroyed many others, with billions of dead to his name, even attempting to trick other aliens into annihilating Earth out of sheer spite against the heroes he so loathes.

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