History YMMV / JusticeLeague

15th Nov '17 12:57:01 PM JulianLapostat
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* {{Asspull}}: Despite being a very great show, ''Justice League'' (''Unlimited'') does have a few moments of these.
** The Flash's ability to [[spoiler:defeat Brainiac/Luthor can come off as this. The Speed Force is never established at any other point in the series and the entire DCAU, before or after, but Wally suddenly taps into it to not only move faster than he ever has, but to somehow use vibrations to separate Lex Luthor from Brainiac.]]
** Superman's ability to fight Darkseid can come off as this for longtime ''Superman: TAS'' fans. In that series, it was established that Darkseid was actually far stronger than Superman. Even when Superman was more enraged than he'd ever been in the ''DCAU'', Darkseid basically beat Superman within an inch of his life, and Superman only won through an act of desperation. Yet in ''Justice League'' and ''Justice League Unlimited'', Superman can suddenly fight Darkseid on an even level, with the handwaved excuse that Superman is "not holding back", despite the fact that Superman hadn't been holding back in his previous fights with Darkseid. It could be his powers growing further under the yellow sun, but they don't say that.
*** Actually, that is incorrect. In ''Superman: TAS'', the reasons Superman was losing as badly as he was, was because he was on Apocalypse where there is no yellow sun and had already been tired out from defeating the Furies, Granny Goodness, and Kalibak, not to mention he was recovering from being blasted with kryptonite missiles and red sun radiation. Furthermore, it has been two years since then, and Superman's powers have grown considerably since then, similar to how Kara got stronger in between Season Two and Season Three of ''JLU''. And in the comics (which is shown in the DCAU as well), he is known to emotionally repress his true power to avoid causing collateral damage.
8th Nov '17 6:52:56 AM Manny20444
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* CantUnHearIt: Like with majority of the DCAU voice actors, this show has a large supply of people imagining the voice actors from this show as their comic counterparts and viewing them as their definitive voice actors, including Creator/SusanEisenberg as Franchise/WonderWoman, Creator/MichaelRosenbaum as the Wally West Franchise/{{Flash}} (along with the Barry Allen Flash if you have watched ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDoom'' and played ''VideoGame/InfiniteCrisis''), Creator/PhilLaMarr as John Stewart, Creator/CarlLumbly as the ComicBook/MartianManhunter, and Creator/MariaCanalsBarrera as Hawkgirl. Thanks to his performances in this series, ''WesternAnimation/SupermanVsTheElite'' and ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', Creator/GeorgeNewbern has also begun to overtake his predecessor, Creator/TimDaly, as Superman's definitive voice actor for many fans.

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* CantUnHearIt: Like with majority of the DCAU voice actors, this show has a large supply of people imagining the voice actors from this show as their comic counterparts and viewing them as their definitive voice actors, including Creator/SusanEisenberg as Franchise/WonderWoman, Creator/MichaelRosenbaum as the Wally West Franchise/{{Flash}} (along with the Barry Allen Flash if you have watched ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDoom'' and and/or played ''VideoGame/InfiniteCrisis''), Creator/PhilLaMarr as John Stewart, Creator/CarlLumbly as the ComicBook/MartianManhunter, and Creator/MariaCanalsBarrera as Hawkgirl. Thanks to his performances in this series, ''WesternAnimation/SupermanVsTheElite'' and ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', Creator/GeorgeNewbern has also begun to overtake his predecessor, Creator/TimDaly, as Superman's definitive voice actor for many fans.fans (but there are fans who like Daly and Newbern equally).
8th Nov '17 6:37:02 AM Manny20444
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* {{Asspull}}: Despite being a great show, ''Justice League''/''JLU'' does have a few moments of these.
** The Flash's ability to [[spoiler:defeat Brainiac/Luthor can come off as this. The Speed Force is never established at any other point in the series, before or after, but Wally suddenly taps into it to not only move faster than he ever has, but to somehow use vibrations to separate Lex Luthor from Brainiac.]]

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* {{Asspull}}: Despite being a very great show, ''Justice League''/''JLU'' League'' (''Unlimited'') does have a few moments of these.
** The Flash's ability to [[spoiler:defeat Brainiac/Luthor can come off as this. The Speed Force is never established at any other point in the series, series and the entire DCAU, before or after, but Wally suddenly taps into it to not only move faster than he ever has, but to somehow use vibrations to separate Lex Luthor from Brainiac.]]



*** Actually, that is incorrect. In ''TAS'', the reasons Superman was losing as badly as he was, was because he was on Apocalypse where there is no yellow sun and had already been tired out from defeating the Furies, Granny Goodness, and Kalibak, not to mention he was recovering from being blasted with kryptonite missiles and red sun radiation. Furthermore, it has been two years since then, and Superman's powers have grown considerably since then, similar to how Kara got stronger in between Season Two and Season Three of JLU. And in the comics, he is known to emotionally repress his true power to avoid causing collateral damage.

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*** Actually, that is incorrect. In ''TAS'', ''Superman: TAS'', the reasons Superman was losing as badly as he was, was because he was on Apocalypse where there is no yellow sun and had already been tired out from defeating the Furies, Granny Goodness, and Kalibak, not to mention he was recovering from being blasted with kryptonite missiles and red sun radiation. Furthermore, it has been two years since then, and Superman's powers have grown considerably since then, similar to how Kara got stronger in between Season Two and Season Three of JLU. ''JLU''. And in the comics, comics (which is shown in the DCAU as well), he is known to emotionally repress his true power to avoid causing collateral damage.



** "Epilogue" also gets some of this: some fans love it and see it as the definitive end of the DCAU, while other fans hated it for being all about Batman's legacy, essentially feeling more like a lost episode of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' and not a true finale to the actual ''Justice League/Unlimited'' series it was supposed to tie off (before it got renewed anyway).

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** "Epilogue" also gets some of this: some fans love it and see it as the definitive end of the DCAU, while other fans hated it for being all about Batman's legacy, essentially feeling more like a lost episode of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' and not a true finale to the actual ''Justice League/Unlimited'' League'' (''Unlimited'') series that it was supposed to tie off (before it got renewed anyway).



* CantUnHearIt: Like with majority of the DCAU voice actors, this show has a large supply of people imagining the voice actors from this show as their comic counterparts and viewing them as their definitive voice actors, including Creator/SusanEisenberg as Wonder Woman, Creator/MichaelRosenbaum as the Wally West Flash, Creator/PhilLaMarr as John Stewart, Creator/CarlLumbly as the Martian Manhunter, and Creator/MariaCanalsBarrera as Hawkgirl. Thanks to his performances in this series, ''WesternAnimation/SupermanVsTheElite'' and ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', Creator/GeorgeNewbern has also begun to overtake his predecessor, Creator/TimDaly, as Superman's definitive voice actor for many fans.
* CompleteMonster (besides the returns of [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries The Joker]],[[WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries Darkseid and Brainiac]]):

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* CantUnHearIt: Like with majority of the DCAU voice actors, this show has a large supply of people imagining the voice actors from this show as their comic counterparts and viewing them as their definitive voice actors, including Creator/SusanEisenberg as Wonder Woman, Franchise/WonderWoman, Creator/MichaelRosenbaum as the Wally West Flash, Franchise/{{Flash}} (along with the Barry Allen Flash if you have watched ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDoom'' and played ''VideoGame/InfiniteCrisis''), Creator/PhilLaMarr as John Stewart, Creator/CarlLumbly as the Martian Manhunter, ComicBook/MartianManhunter, and Creator/MariaCanalsBarrera as Hawkgirl. Thanks to his performances in this series, ''WesternAnimation/SupermanVsTheElite'' and ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', Creator/GeorgeNewbern has also begun to overtake his predecessor, Creator/TimDaly, as Superman's definitive voice actor for many fans.
* CompleteMonster (besides the returns of [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries The Joker]],[[WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries Joker]], [[WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries Darkseid and Brainiac]]):
8th Nov '17 5:07:33 AM Anicomicgeek
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** Jeremy Piven voicing the ComicBook/ElongatedMan, given both ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' revealed that Ralph's wife Sue was raped by Dr. Light and the alligations of sexual assault levied against Piven.



** Jeremy Piven voicing the ComicBook/ElongatedMan, given both ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' revealed that Ralph's wife Sue was raped by Dr. Light and the alligations of sexual assault levied against Piven.
8th Nov '17 5:06:27 AM Anicomicgeek
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** Jeremy Piven voicing the ComicBook/ElongatedMan, given both ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' revealed that Ralph's wife Sue was raped by Dr. Light and the alligations of sexual assault levied against Piven.
7th Nov '17 10:52:13 AM urutapu
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* ContinuityLockout: Some episodes really liked to reference, ''Batman: The Animated Series'', ''Superman: The Animated Series'', ''Batman Beyond'', ''Static Shock'', and other major plots that occurred in the show's time. So good luck keeping up with all the [[ContinuityNod continuity references]]. The Cadmus arc being the biggest example of having a story going all the way back to Superman's finale.

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* ContinuityLockout: Some episodes really liked rely on references to reference, ''Batman: The Animated Series'', ''Superman: The Animated Series'', ''Batman Beyond'', ''Static Shock'', and other major plots that occurred events from earlier in the show's time. So DCAU, [[ArchivePanic a franchise that would take about six full days to marathon from start to finish]], so good luck keeping up with all the [[ContinuityNod continuity references]]. The Cadmus arc being the single biggest example of having a story going all is probably the way back to Superman's finale.Cadmus arc, which deals with repercussions of the finale of ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries''.
7th Nov '17 10:22:20 AM Manny20444
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* CompleteMonster (besides the returns of [[WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries Darkseid and Brainiac]]):

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* CompleteMonster (besides the returns of [[WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries The Joker]],[[WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries Darkseid and Brainiac]]):



* ContinuityLockout: Some episodes really liked to reference, ''Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: The Animated Series, Batman Beyond, Static Shock'', and other major plots that occurred in the show's time. So good luck keeping up with all the [[ContinuityNod continuity references]]. The Cadmus arc being the biggest example of having a story going all the way back to Superman's finale.

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* ContinuityLockout: Some episodes really liked to reference, ''Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: Series'', ''Superman: The Animated Series, Batman Beyond, Static Series'', ''Batman Beyond'', ''Static Shock'', and other major plots that occurred in the show's time. So good luck keeping up with all the [[ContinuityNod continuity references]]. The Cadmus arc being the biggest example of having a story going all the way back to Superman's finale.
31st Oct '17 7:27:34 AM Forenperser
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** It's not so much WHO they did it too as much as it was what happened in principle. Batman's problem with it has to do with a couple of things. The biggest being that a small group of people basically made a life or death decision. With this being fresh off the back of the Justice Lords Batman has a genuine (and legitimate) fear that if the Justice League for whatever reason decide to take over the world there is nobody who could stop them. As powerful as Doomsday is when you remember Mongol and Darksied are part of the DC universe he's not so much an unstoppable monster as he is extremely powerful. This fear is a large part of the story of Justice League: Doom or Tower of Babel if you prefer the comic. Also the Phantom Zone doesn't really have a much better record of keeping prisoners than deep space or for that matter Hell in the DC verse. Had the JLA held a formal trial of sorts, even consulted the entire league instead of making a decision amongst the core seven Batman would likely have reacted differently. And it actually wasn't even the core seven. There was only seating for six, and Shayera wasn't there. Confirming the suspicions, this shows a level of secrets within secrets.
23rd Oct '17 7:19:37 AM creader
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!! For the animated series:

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!! For !!For the animated series:



** Subverted when Amanda Waller [[spoiler:hired the Phantasm to kill Terry McGinnis's parents. Phantasm realized that she couldn't kill two innocent parents and leave their child bereft, and called out Waller for her plan. Waller decided she couldn't recreate Batman with planned murder and abandoned the project.]]

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** Subverted when Amanda Waller [[spoiler:hired the Phantasm to kill Terry McGinnis's [=McGinnis=]'s parents. Phantasm realized that she couldn't kill two innocent parents and leave their child bereft, and called out Waller for her plan. Waller decided she couldn't recreate Batman with planned murder and abandoned the project.]]
18th Oct '17 2:14:36 PM nighttrainfm
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** In "The Once and Future Thing", Jonah Hex casually mentions that he's met time traveler before and helped save history a couple of times. Fast-forward to ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'' where Hex has befriended a time travelling superhero team and saved history on countless occasions.
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