History YMMV / JamesBond

6th Dec '17 6:25:09 AM Saveelich
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Although many have praised the Creator/DanielCraig ''Bond'' films for being more gritty and realistic than the sometimes-campy ''Bond'' films of previous years, there are a significant number of fans who 'miss' the implausible gadgets, girls with suggestive names, and over-the-top villains and wish them to return. At a more general level, these fans often feel like the Craig films aren't really ''Bond'' films at all, having a lot more in common with the ''Film/{{Taken}}'' films and ''Film/TheBourneSeries'' than with previous ''Bond'' films.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Although many have praised the Creator/DanielCraig ''Bond'' films for being more gritty and realistic than the sometimes-campy ''Bond'' films of previous years, there are a significant number of fans who 'miss' the implausible gadgets, girls with suggestive names, and over-the-top villains and wish them to return. At a more general level, these fans often feel like the Craig films aren't really ''Bond'' films at all, having a lot more in common with the ''Film/{{Taken}}'' films and ''Film/TheBourneSeries'' than with previous ''Bond'' films. NostalgiaFilter applies a great deal here.
2nd Dec '17 1:11:19 AM Saveelich
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* CantUnheartIt: Good luck reading one of the original novels and not imagining Creator/SeanConnery, Creator/GeorgeLazenby, Creator/RogerMoore, Creator/TimothyDalton, Creator/PierceBrosnan, or Creator/DanielCraig as Bond. Especially Connery (for being the first Bond) or Dalton and Craig (for being [[DarkerAndEdgier grittier]] Bonds in the style of the novels) for some.

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* CantUnheartIt: CantUnhearIt: Good luck reading one of the original novels and not imagining Creator/SeanConnery, Creator/GeorgeLazenby, Creator/RogerMoore, Creator/TimothyDalton, Creator/PierceBrosnan, or Creator/DanielCraig as Bond. Especially Connery (for being the first Bond) or Dalton and Craig (for being [[DarkerAndEdgier grittier]] Bonds in the style of the novels) for some.
28th Nov '17 11:24:37 AM ClintEastwood
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* CantUnheartIt: Good luck reading one of the original novels and not imagining Creator/SeanConnery, Creator/GeorgeLazenby, Creator/RogerMoore, Creator/TimothyDalton, Creator/PierceBrosnan, or Creator/DanielCraig as Bond. Especially Connery (for being the first Bond) or Dalton and Craig (for being [[DarkerAndEdgier grittier]] Bonds in the style of the novels) for some.
16th Nov '17 3:36:43 AM Sleeping_Beauty
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* TooGoodToLast: Creator/TimothyDalton's run on the series ([[BrokenBasr for his fans at least]]).

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* TooGoodToLast: Creator/TimothyDalton's run on the series ([[BrokenBasr ([[BrokenBase for his fans at least]]).
9th Nov '17 5:12:17 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Creator/TimothyDalton's era. Some fans love the darker tone and faithfulness to the books, whereas others prefer the more light-hearted and grandiose Bond stories. His performance is another point of contention, with some praising his intense portrayal and others denouncing him for not being as tongue-in-cheek as his predecessors.



* TooGoodToLast: Creator/TimothyDalton's run on the series ([[LoveItOrHateIt for his fans at least]]).

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* TooGoodToLast: Creator/TimothyDalton's run on the series ([[LoveItOrHateIt ([[BrokenBasr for his fans at least]]).



* TheWoobie: James Bond, in the Daniel Craig era, is pretty much this to a T. He has several emotional issues, [[ParentalAbandonment is orphaned at an early age]], has a penchant for revenge, [[PerpetualFrowner generally looks unhappy even when he smiles]], [[KnightInSourArmor has a grim outlook on his job]] and [[ByronicHero still regrets over losing his loved ones]], especially Vesper Lynd in ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'', and M in ''Film/{{Skyfall}}''. In ''Film/{{Spectre}}'', it's even revealed that [[BigBad Franz Oberhauser's]] father adopted him after Bond loses his own parents, but [[DrivenByEnvy Franz kills him]] [[TheResenter out of jealousy.]] Franz even [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech mocks him,]] [[TheChessmaster telling how he was behind]] [[GreaterScopeVillain all of Bond's miseries over the years.]] At the end of ''Spectre'', Bond's frantic efforts to rescue [[DamselInDistress Madeline]]--especially the way he [[SayMyName cries out her name]] as he races through the old MI6 building while searching for her--are downright wrenching. One gets the feeling that he is ''absolutely fed up'' with losing people that he cares about and is [[{{Determinator}} determined]] that it will not happen this time. Given [[DarkAndTroubledPast what he has been]] [[TraumaCongaLine through over the years]], and [[MarriedToTheJob with little of a life he has outside of MI6,]] it's quite sad to say that he does really need a big hug.

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* TheWoobie: James Bond, in the Daniel Craig era, is pretty much this to a T. He has several emotional issues, [[ParentalAbandonment is orphaned at an early age]], has a penchant for revenge, [[PerpetualFrowner generally looks unhappy even when he smiles]], [[KnightInSourArmor has a grim outlook on his job]] and [[ByronicHero still regrets over losing his loved ones]], especially Vesper Lynd in ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'', and M in ''Film/{{Skyfall}}''. In ''Film/{{Spectre}}'', it's even revealed that [[BigBad Franz Oberhauser's]] father adopted him after Bond loses his own parents, but [[DrivenByEnvy Franz kills him]] [[TheResenter him out of jealousy.]] jealousy]]. Franz even [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech mocks him,]] [[TheChessmaster telling how he was behind]] him]], [[GreaterScopeVillain telling how he was behind all of Bond's miseries over the years.]] At the end of ''Spectre'', Bond's frantic efforts to rescue [[DamselInDistress Madeline]]--especially the way he [[SayMyName cries out her name]] as he races through the old MI6 building while searching for her--are downright wrenching. One gets the feeling that he is ''absolutely fed up'' with losing people that he cares about and is [[{{Determinator}} determined]] that it will not happen this time. Given [[DarkAndTroubledPast what he has been]] [[TraumaCongaLine through over the years]], and [[MarriedToTheJob with little of a life he has outside of MI6,]] MI6]], it's quite sad to say that he does really need a big hug.
3rd Nov '17 10:45:20 AM Erin582
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** Also, not including the iconic Bond theme riff that debuted in ''Film/DrNo'' and has been heard in every film ever since, which film had the best theme? Common contenders for the title are usually "Film/{{Goldfinger}}", [[Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService "We Have All the Time in the World"]], "Film/LiveAndLetDie" and [[Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe "Nobody Does it Better"]].
13th Oct '17 4:04:43 PM PrincessGwen
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* LoveItOrHateIt: ''Live and Let Die'': Entertaining it its own right and FairForItsDay, or an embarrassing relic of '50s ignorance that's best left in said '50s?
** Given that it was heavily censored and edited in ''it's initial US printing back in the '50s'', and remained out of print there for many years, it was unfair even for its day.
8th Oct '17 7:39:17 AM MinisterOfSinister
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** [[Film/TomorrowNeverDies Wai Lin]] has her own fanbase. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen They were even considering a sequel where she returned, and she was also intended to return in ''Film/DieAnotherDay''.]]

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** [[Film/TomorrowNeverDies Wai Lin]] has her own fanbase. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen They were even considering a sequel where she returned, and she was also intended to return in in]] ''Film/DieAnotherDay''.]]
7th Oct '17 9:16:27 AM Sleeping_Beauty
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** Perhaps the oddest example is ''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService''. CommonKnowledge holds it to be a failure of some kind (probably either because of the silly, even for Bond, plotline about mind-controlling beautiful women to manipulate the world's supply of chickens, or because people assume it was a failure because [[OneHitWonder Lazenby only did one]]), but critically, and among more committed fans, it's usually regarded as a classic.

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** Perhaps the oddest example is ''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService''. CommonKnowledge holds it to be a failure of some kind (probably either because of the silly, even for Bond, plotline about mind-controlling beautiful women to manipulate the world's supply of chickens, distribute a man-made virus, or because people assume it was a failure because [[OneHitWonder Lazenby only did one]]), but critically, and among more committed fans, it's usually regarded as a classic.



** Among [[TheDragon the henchmen]], [[Film/GoldFinger Oddjob]] (Noted as Creator/PierceBrosnan's favourite character), [[Film/FromRussiaWithLove Red Grant]], [[Film/LiveAndLetDie Baron Samedi]], [[Film/MoonRaker Jaws]] (so much that people in the cinemas cheered when he ultimately survived in ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe'') and [[Film/AViewToAKill Mayday]] are among the most popular. They would later get guest roles in ''VideoGame/GoldenEye1997''.

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** Among [[TheDragon the henchmen]], [[Film/GoldFinger Oddjob]] (Noted as Creator/PierceBrosnan's favourite character), [[Film/FromRussiaWithLove Red Grant]], [[Film/LiveAndLetDie Baron Samedi]], [[Film/MoonRaker Jaws]] (so much that people in the cinemas cheered when he ultimately survived in ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe'') and [[Film/AViewToAKill Mayday]] are among the most popular. They would all later get guest roles in ''VideoGame/GoldenEye1997''.various Bond video games.



** [[Film/TomorrowNeverDies Wai Lin]] has her own fanbase. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen They were even considering a sequel where she returned.]]

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** [[Film/TomorrowNeverDies Wai Lin]] has her own fanbase. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen They were even considering a sequel where she returned.returned, and she was also intended to return in ''Film/DieAnotherDay''.]]



** Among the actors to have played M, Robert Brown can be considered this. While he wasn't too bad in ''Film/{{Octopussy}}'', ''Film/AViewToAKill'' and ''Film/TheLivingDaylights'', his characterization in ''Film/LicenceToKill'' when he TookALevelInJerkass and became an ObstructiveBureaucrat HeroAntagonist towards Bond for being a RogueAgent who's trying to avenge his friend Felix Leiter for what happened to him and his wife (which Brown's M shows NoSympathy towards) causes him to sink to an all time low for him. Even worse on how M's actions in the movie creates more obstacles like how [[WhatAnIdiot he neglects to inform Bond that there are operations held around the]] BigBad's BananaRepublic lair when Bond [[WhatTheHellHero accuses the Americans for doing nothing]], which would have calm Bond down, but instead resort to berating him and being a BadBoss towards him, causing Bond to reach a breaking point with M and resigning from [=MI6=] and becoming a fugitive from justice to achieve his vengeance for Felix. This is what probably led to the recast of M in ''Film/GoldenEye'' including a GenderFlip of the character once Creator/JudiDench steps in.

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** Among the actors to have played M, Robert Brown can be considered this. While he wasn't too bad in ''Film/{{Octopussy}}'', ''Film/AViewToAKill'' and ''Film/TheLivingDaylights'', his characterization in ''Film/LicenceToKill'' when he TookALevelInJerkass and became an ObstructiveBureaucrat HeroAntagonist towards Bond for being a RogueAgent who's trying to avenge his friend Felix Leiter for what happened to him and his wife (which Brown's M shows NoSympathy towards) causes him to sink to an all time low for him. Even worse on how M's actions in the movie creates more obstacles like how [[WhatAnIdiot he neglects to inform Bond that there are operations held around the]] BigBad's BananaRepublic lair when Bond [[WhatTheHellHero accuses the Americans for doing nothing]], which would have calm Bond down, but instead resort to berating him and being a BadBoss towards him, causing Bond to reach a breaking point with M and resigning from [=MI6=] and becoming a fugitive from justice to achieve his vengeance for Felix. This is what probably led to the recast of M in ''Film/GoldenEye'' including a GenderFlip of the character once Creator/JudiDench steps in.
17th Sep '17 8:08:04 AM ACW
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