History YMMV / JamesBond

25th May '17 12:05:14 AM Michael_McManus
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* ToughActToFollow: The Sixties. Not only is Creator/SeanConnery widely regarded as the definitive Bond, but the first 6 films had arguably the strongest run the series has ever seen. On a lesser scale, ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe,'' ''Film/ForYourEyesOnly'', ''Film/TheLivingDaylights'', ''Film/GoldenEye,'' ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'', and ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'' were warmly received entries that had tepid follow-ups.

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* ToughActToFollow: The Sixties. Not only is Creator/SeanConnery widely regarded as the definitive Bond, but the first 6 films had arguably the strongest run the series has ever seen. On a lesser scale, ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe,'' ''Film/ForYourEyesOnly'', ''Film/TheLivingDaylights'', ''Film/GoldenEye,'' ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'', and ''Film/{{Skyfall}}'' were warmly received entries that had tepid follow-ups.
17th May '17 10:48:51 AM moloch
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* DorkAge: Like fellow British cultural treasure ''Series/DoctorWho'', the series has run for over fifty years, so everyone has their own DorkAge. Unfortunately, this is precisely where the aforementioned BrokenBase comes in. To many, Bond's Dork Age is the DenserAndWackier installments (''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' for Connery; ''Film/LiveAndLetDie'', ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'', ''Film/{{Moonraker}}'' and ''Film/AViewToAKill'' for Moore; ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' for Brosnan). Then you have the other way around the people who think the series' nadir was when it started to [[SeriousBusiness take itself too seriously]] and forgot to be fun in the process, like the perhaps ''too'' [[TheEighties obviously Eighties]] ''Film/LicenceToKill'' or the Creator/DanielCraig installments.

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* DorkAge: Like fellow British cultural treasure ''Series/DoctorWho'', the series has run for over fifty years, so everyone has their own DorkAge. Unfortunately, this is precisely where the aforementioned BrokenBase comes in. To many, Bond's Dork Age is the DenserAndWackier installments (''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' for Connery; ''Film/LiveAndLetDie'', ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'', ''Film/{{Moonraker}}'' and ''Film/AViewToAKill'' for Moore; ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' for Brosnan). Then you have the other way around the people who think the series' nadir was low points are when it started to takes itself [[SeriousBusiness take itself too seriously]] and forgot forgets to be fun in the process, like the perhaps ''too'' [[TheEighties obviously Eighties]] ''Film/LicenceToKill'' or the Creator/DanielCraig installments.installments, particularly his second.
17th May '17 10:47:33 AM moloch
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* DorkAge: Like fellow British cultural treasure ''Series/DoctorWho'', the series has run for over fifty years, so everyone has their own DorkAge. Unfortunately, this is precisely where the aforementioned BrokenBase comes in. To many, Bond's Dork Age is the DenserAndWackier installments (''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' for Connery; ''Film/LiveAndLetDie'', ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'', ''Film/{{Moonraker}}'' and ''Film/AViewToAKill'' for Moore; ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' for Brosnan). Then you have the other way around the people who think the series' nadir was when it started to [[SeriousBusiness take itself too seriously]] and forgot to be fun in the process, like the perhaps ''too'' [[The80s Eighties]] ''Film/LicenceToKill'' or the Creator/DanielCraig installments.

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* DorkAge: Like fellow British cultural treasure ''Series/DoctorWho'', the series has run for over fifty years, so everyone has their own DorkAge. Unfortunately, this is precisely where the aforementioned BrokenBase comes in. To many, Bond's Dork Age is the DenserAndWackier installments (''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' for Connery; ''Film/LiveAndLetDie'', ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'', ''Film/{{Moonraker}}'' and ''Film/AViewToAKill'' for Moore; ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' for Brosnan). Then you have the other way around the people who think the series' nadir was when it started to [[SeriousBusiness take itself too seriously]] and forgot to be fun in the process, like the perhaps ''too'' [[The80s [[TheEighties obviously Eighties]] ''Film/LicenceToKill'' or the Creator/DanielCraig installments.
17th May '17 10:47:07 AM moloch
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* BrokenBase: The Seventies and Eighties are ''very'' divisive. The only film everyone agrees on is ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe'', which most serious ''Bond'' fans consider to be MadeOfWin.

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* BrokenBase: The Seventies and Eighties are ''very'' divisive. The only film everyone everyone[[labelnote:*]]Well, almost everyone, because there's always somebody, isn't there?[[/labelnote]] agrees on is ''Film/TheSpyWhoLovedMe'', which most serious ''Bond'' fans consider to be MadeOfWin.



* DorkAge: Like fellow British cultural treasure ''Series/DoctorWho'', the series has run for over fifty years, so everyone has their own DorkAge. Unfortunately, this is precisely where the aforementioned BrokenBase comes in. To many, Bond's Dork Age is the DenserAndWackier installments (''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' for Connery; ''Film/LiveAndLetDie'', ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'', ''Film/{{Moonraker}}'' and ''Film/AViewToAKill'' for Moore; ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' for Brosnan). Then you have the other way around the people who think the series' nadir was when it started to [[SeriousBusiness take itself too seriously]] and forgot to be fun in the process.

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* DorkAge: Like fellow British cultural treasure ''Series/DoctorWho'', the series has run for over fifty years, so everyone has their own DorkAge. Unfortunately, this is precisely where the aforementioned BrokenBase comes in. To many, Bond's Dork Age is the DenserAndWackier installments (''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' for Connery; ''Film/LiveAndLetDie'', ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'', ''Film/{{Moonraker}}'' and ''Film/AViewToAKill'' for Moore; ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' for Brosnan). Then you have the other way around the people who think the series' nadir was when it started to [[SeriousBusiness take itself too seriously]] and forgot to be fun in the process.process, like the perhaps ''too'' [[The80s Eighties]] ''Film/LicenceToKill'' or the Creator/DanielCraig installments.
17th May '17 10:42:16 AM moloch
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* DorkAge: Like fellow British cultural treasure ''Series/DoctorWho'', the series has run for over fifty years, so everyone has their own DorkAge. Unfortunately, this is precisely where the aforementioned BrokenBase comes in. To many, Bond's Dork Age is the DenserAndWackier films (in Creator/RogerMoore era, this means ''Film/AViewToAKill'', ''Film/{{Moonraker}}'' and ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun';''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' and ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' tend to be held as the weakest points of the Connery and Brosnan eras respectively). Then you have the other way around the people who think the serie's nadir was when it started to [[SeriousBusiness take itself too seriously]] and forgot to be fun in the process.

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* DorkAge: Like fellow British cultural treasure ''Series/DoctorWho'', the series has run for over fifty years, so everyone has their own DorkAge. Unfortunately, this is precisely where the aforementioned BrokenBase comes in. To many, Bond's Dork Age is the DenserAndWackier films (in Creator/RogerMoore era, this means ''Film/AViewToAKill'', installments (''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' for Connery; ''Film/LiveAndLetDie'', ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'', ''Film/{{Moonraker}}'' and ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun';''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' and ''Film/AViewToAKill'' for Moore; ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' tend to be held as the weakest points of the Connery and Brosnan eras respectively). for Brosnan). Then you have the other way around the people who think the serie's series' nadir was when it started to [[SeriousBusiness take itself too seriously]] and forgot to be fun in the process.



** Perhaps the oddest example is ''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService''. CommonKnowledge holds it to be a failure of some kind (probably either because of the ridiculous, even for Bond, plotline about mind-controlling beautiful women to manipulate the world's supply of chickens, or because it's Lazenby's only turn in the title role, so surely it was a bad film?), but critically, and among more committed fans, it's usually regarded as a classic.

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** Perhaps the oddest example is ''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService''. CommonKnowledge holds it to be a failure of some kind (probably either because of the ridiculous, silly, even for Bond, plotline about mind-controlling beautiful women to manipulate the world's supply of chickens, or because it's Lazenby's only turn in the title role, so surely people assume it was a bad film?), failure because [[OneHitWonder Lazenby only did one]]), but critically, and among more committed fans, it's usually regarded as a classic.
7th Apr '17 9:52:39 AM erforce
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: In the short story "Blast from the Past", Bond finally meets his son James Suzuki, whom he fathered in ''You Only Live Twice''. After three decades of non-existence, what is he used for? He appears as a corpse in a revenge plot against Bond.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: In the short story "Blast from the Past", Bond finally meets his son James Suzuki, whom he fathered in ''You Only Live Twice''. After three decades of non-existence, what is he used for? He appears as [[spoiler:As a corpse in a revenge plot against Bond.Bond]], who is brushed aside so that Bond can finish his business with [[spoiler:Irma Bunt, the accomplice in the death of his wife Tracy]].
7th Apr '17 9:37:21 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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* DorkAge: Like fellow British cultural treasure ''Series/DoctorWho'', the series has run for over fifty years, so everyone has their own DorkAge.
** Perhaps the most widely regarded Dork Age is the weaker films of the Creator/RogerMoore era, which tended towards DenserAndWackier. ''Film/AViewToAKill'', ''Film/{{Moonraker}}'' and ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'' are usually held to be the nadir of the series. ''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' and ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' tend to be held as the weakest points of the Connery and Brosnan eras.

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* DorkAge: Like fellow British cultural treasure ''Series/DoctorWho'', the series has run for over fifty years, so everyone has their own DorkAge.
** Perhaps
DorkAge. Unfortunately, this is precisely where the most widely regarded aforementioned BrokenBase comes in. To many, Bond's Dork Age is the weaker DenserAndWackier films of the (in Creator/RogerMoore era, which tended towards DenserAndWackier. this means ''Film/AViewToAKill'', ''Film/{{Moonraker}}'' and ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun'' are usually held to be the nadir of the series. ''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' ''Film/TheManWithTheGoldenGun';''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' and ''Film/DieAnotherDay'' tend to be held as the weakest points of the Connery and Brosnan eras.eras respectively). Then you have the other way around the people who think the serie's nadir was when it started to [[SeriousBusiness take itself too seriously]] and forgot to be fun in the process.
26th Mar '17 6:24:50 AM Psi001
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** Animator {{Creator/Chuck Jones}} once made a tongue in cheek in theory in his autobiography that James Bond was in fact an egotistical bumbler, but comes out of each situation looking so suave and hyper competent because he is placed against an even more buffoonish and GenreBlind RoguesGallery.

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** Animator {{Creator/Chuck Jones}} once made a tongue in cheek in theory in his autobiography that James Bond was in fact an egotistical bumbler, but comes out of each situation looking so suave and hyper competent because he is placed against an [[StrawLoser even more buffoonish buffoonish]] and GenreBlind RoguesGallery.
26th Mar '17 6:22:41 AM Psi001
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Is Bond a suave, sweet-talking super agent, or is he a JerkAss OvertOperative who solves problems by blowing them up? Is he truly loyal to England, or is he just MarriedToTheJob? Is he a misogynist, or does he go through Bond girls like tissue paper because his attempts at real romance blew up in his face? The debate goes on, and each actor brings a slightly different interpretation to the table as well.

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Is Bond a suave, sweet-talking super agent, or is he a JerkAss OvertOperative who solves problems by blowing them up? Is he truly loyal to England, or is he just MarriedToTheJob? Is he a misogynist, or does he go through Bond girls like tissue paper because his attempts at real romance blew up in his face? The debate goes on, and each actor brings a slightly different interpretation to the table as well.well.
** Animator {{Creator/Chuck Jones}} once made a tongue in cheek in theory in his autobiography that James Bond was in fact an egotistical bumbler, but comes out of each situation looking so suave and hyper competent because he is placed against an even more buffoonish and GenreBlind RoguesGallery.
12th Jan '17 6:06:13 PM jeffreyloonychen
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** Among the actors to have played M, Robert Brown can be considered this. While he wasn't too bad in ''Film/{{Octopussy}}'', ''Film/AViewToAKill'' and ''Film/TheLivingDaylights'', his characterization in ''Film/LicenceToKill'' when he TookALevelInJerkass and became an ObstructiveBureaucrat HeroAntagonist towards Bond for being a RogueAgent who's trying to avenge his friend Felix Leiter for what happened to him and his wife (which Brown's M shows NoSympathy towards) causes him to sink to an all time low for him. Even worse on how M's actions in the movie creates more obstacles like how [[WhatAnIdiot he neglects to inform Bond that there are operations held around the]] BigBad's BananaRepublic lair when Bond [[WhatTheHellHero accuses the Americans for doing nothing]], which would have calm Bond down, but instead resort to berating him and being a BadBoss towards him, causing Bond to reach a breaking point with M and resigning from [=MI6=]and becoming a fugitive from justice to achieve his vengeance for Felix.

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** Among the actors to have played M, Robert Brown can be considered this. While he wasn't too bad in ''Film/{{Octopussy}}'', ''Film/AViewToAKill'' and ''Film/TheLivingDaylights'', his characterization in ''Film/LicenceToKill'' when he TookALevelInJerkass and became an ObstructiveBureaucrat HeroAntagonist towards Bond for being a RogueAgent who's trying to avenge his friend Felix Leiter for what happened to him and his wife (which Brown's M shows NoSympathy towards) causes him to sink to an all time low for him. Even worse on how M's actions in the movie creates more obstacles like how [[WhatAnIdiot he neglects to inform Bond that there are operations held around the]] BigBad's BananaRepublic lair when Bond [[WhatTheHellHero accuses the Americans for doing nothing]], which would have calm Bond down, but instead resort to berating him and being a BadBoss towards him, causing Bond to reach a breaking point with M and resigning from [=MI6=]and [=MI6=] and becoming a fugitive from justice to achieve his vengeance for Felix.Felix. This is what probably led to the recast of M in ''Film/GoldenEye'' including a GenderFlip of the character once Creator/JudiDench steps in.
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