History YMMV / InheritanceCycle

3rd Jan '16 9:50:25 AM rjd1922
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* MemeticMutation: "Sorry", - apologised Brom".
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* MemeticMutation: "Sorry", - apologised [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment apologised]] Brom".
31st Dec '15 2:16:56 AM MagBas
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* CanonSue: Eragon (and arguably Murtagh) can easily get a score of over 100 on the [[http://www.springhole.net/writing/marysue.htm Mary Sue Litmus Test]]. Eragon appears on the lists of Canon Sues at [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Canon_Sue Fanlore]] and [[http://ppc.wikia.com/wiki/Canon_Sue the PPC]] and also [[http://www.mania.com/7-biggest-mary-sues-pop-culture_article_131587.html "The 7 Biggest Mary Sues in Pop Culture"]]. He is a random boy who suddenly becomes TheChosenOne and gets an immense amount of power, despite acting like a jerk.

* MartyStu: Eragon, see above entry for Canon Sue.
29th Dec '15 3:43:41 PM LahmacunKebab
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** This one has been referenced over and over as an example of Eragon being like Galby. He could have taken Sloan to the Varden,where he would have briefly been reunited with Katrina,and then executed in front of her for being a traitor. Instead Eragon sends him to the elves, using more energy casting magic to ensure Sloan makes it there alive, who are versed in healing spiritual pain,which due to the death of his wife is what Sloan suffers from. He gives him a chance at redemption and being healed, and by the time it happens the war will be done and anger will have subsided (remember the guard Sloan killed had a wife that swore blood vengeance against Roran because he was somewhat connected to the affair, do you think she would have spared the man that actually got him killed? ) and Sloan stands a chance of being forgiven and being able to resume a normal life. Further in order to do this Eragon thinks on Sloan until he knows his true name, which takes a deep and intimate understanding of the person. Remember Eragon also had responsibilities to tend to and not a lot of time to spend on someone who he knows betrayed everyone Eragon cares about and who attempted to destroy his cousins happiness, even being willing to see Roran dead solely so Sloan can continue to have an unhealthy relationship with his daughter. If Eragon was more pragmatic he would have left Sloan or just killed him and not wasted time trying to find a way to help rehabilitate him.
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** This one has been referenced over and over as an example of Eragon being like Galby. He could have taken Sloan to the Varden,where Varden, where he would have briefly been reunited with Katrina,and Katrina, and then executed in front of her for being a traitor. Instead Eragon sends him to the elves, using more energy casting magic to ensure Sloan makes it there alive, to those who are versed in healing spiritual pain,which pain, which due to the death of his wife is what Sloan suffers from. He gives him a chance at redemption and being healed, and by the time it happens the war will be done and anger will have subsided (remember the guard Sloan killed had a wife that swore blood vengeance against Roran because he was somewhat connected to the affair, do you think she would have spared the man that actually got him killed? ) killed?) and Sloan stands a chance of being forgiven and being able to resume a normal life. Further Further, in order to do this Eragon thinks on Sloan until he knows his true name, which takes a deep and intimate understanding of the person. Remember Eragon also had responsibilities to tend to and not a lot of time to spend on someone who he knows betrayed everyone Eragon cares about and who attempted to destroy his cousins cousin's happiness, even being willing to see Roran dead solely so Sloan can continue to have an unhealthy relationship with his daughter. If Eragon was more pragmatic he would have left Sloan or just killed him and not wasted time trying to find a way to help rehabilitate him.
7th Dec '15 8:15:36 AM Temporary14
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The series is set in a constructed world, not actual Middle Age Europe, and the use of "the Pox" to specifically mean syphilis didn't come about until the beginning of the Early Modern Era, anyway.
** Special mention has to go to Orik's parents: Either Creator/ChristopherPaolini [[CriticalResearchFailure doesn't know what "the pox" actually means to a medieval person]], or he was GettingCrapPastTheRadar [[BlackComedyBurst at a really bad time]] when Orik says his parents died of the pox. Historically (and certainly in the High Medieval era that Inheritance is allegedly set in), "the pox" meant syphilis. Yes, ''that'' [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syphilis Syphilis]]. Paolini put a reference to sexually transmitted disease in the middle of what was supposed to be a sad and moving scene. Something you aren't telling us about [[ReallyGetsAround mum and dad]], Orik?
21st Sep '15 2:01:14 PM Zibmaster
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** This one has been referenced over and over as an example of Eragon being like Galby. He could have taken Sloan to the Varden,where he would have briefly been reunited with Katrina,and then executed in front of her for being a traitor. Instead Eragon sends him to the elves, who are versed in healing spiritual pain,which due to the death of his wife is what Sloan suffers from. He gives him a chance at redemption and being healed, and by the time it happens the war will be done and anger will have subsided (remember the guard Sloan killed had a wife that swore blood vengeance against Roran because he was somewhat connected to the affair, do you think she would have spared the man that actually got him killed? ) and Sloan stands a chance of being forgiven and being able to resume a normal life. Further in order to do this Eragon thinks on Sloan until he knows his true name, which takes a deep and intimate understanding of the person. Remember Eragon also had responsibilities to tend to and not a lot of time to spend on someone who he knows betrayed everyone Eragon cares about and who attempted to destroy his cousins happiness, even being willing to see Roran dead solely so Sloan can continue to have an unhealthy relationship with his daughter. If Eragon was more pragmatic he would have left Sloan or just killed him and not wasted time trying to find a way to help rehabilitate him.
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** This one has been referenced over and over as an example of Eragon being like Galby. He could have taken Sloan to the Varden,where he would have briefly been reunited with Katrina,and then executed in front of her for being a traitor. Instead Eragon sends him to the elves, using more energy casting magic to ensure Sloan makes it there alive, who are versed in healing spiritual pain,which due to the death of his wife is what Sloan suffers from. He gives him a chance at redemption and being healed, and by the time it happens the war will be done and anger will have subsided (remember the guard Sloan killed had a wife that swore blood vengeance against Roran because he was somewhat connected to the affair, do you think she would have spared the man that actually got him killed? ) and Sloan stands a chance of being forgiven and being able to resume a normal life. Further in order to do this Eragon thinks on Sloan until he knows his true name, which takes a deep and intimate understanding of the person. Remember Eragon also had responsibilities to tend to and not a lot of time to spend on someone who he knows betrayed everyone Eragon cares about and who attempted to destroy his cousins happiness, even being willing to see Roran dead solely so Sloan can continue to have an unhealthy relationship with his daughter. If Eragon was more pragmatic he would have left Sloan or just killed him and not wasted time trying to find a way to help rehabilitate him.
21st Sep '15 1:54:20 PM Zibmaster
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** This one has been referenced over and over as an example of Eragon being like Galby. He could have taken Sloan to the Varden,where he would have briefly been reunited with Katrina,and then executed in front of her for being a traitor. Instead Eragon sends him to the elves, who are versed in healing spiritual pain,which due to the death of his wife is what Sloan suffers from. He gives him a chance at redemption and being healed, ands by the time it happens the war will be done and anger will have subsided (remember the guard Sloan killed had a wife that swore blood vengeance against Roran because he was somewhat connected to the affair, do you think she would have spared the man that actually got him killed? ) and Sloan stands a chance of being forgiven and being able to resume a normal life. Further in order to do this Eragon thinks on Sloan until he knows his true name, which takes a deep and intimate understanding of the person. Remember Eragon also had responsibilities to tend to and not a lot of time to spend on someone who he knows betrayed everyone Eragon cares about and who attempted to destroy his cousins happiness, even being willing to see Roran dead solely so he can continue to have an unhealthy relationship with his daughter. If Eragon was more pragmatic he would have left Sloan or just killed him and not wasted time trying to find a way to help rehabilitate him.
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** This one has been referenced over and over as an example of Eragon being like Galby. He could have taken Sloan to the Varden,where he would have briefly been reunited with Katrina,and then executed in front of her for being a traitor. Instead Eragon sends him to the elves, who are versed in healing spiritual pain,which due to the death of his wife is what Sloan suffers from. He gives him a chance at redemption and being healed, ands and by the time it happens the war will be done and anger will have subsided (remember the guard Sloan killed had a wife that swore blood vengeance against Roran because he was somewhat connected to the affair, do you think she would have spared the man that actually got him killed? ) and Sloan stands a chance of being forgiven and being able to resume a normal life. Further in order to do this Eragon thinks on Sloan until he knows his true name, which takes a deep and intimate understanding of the person. Remember Eragon also had responsibilities to tend to and not a lot of time to spend on someone who he knows betrayed everyone Eragon cares about and who attempted to destroy his cousins happiness, even being willing to see Roran dead solely so he Sloan can continue to have an unhealthy relationship with his daughter. If Eragon was more pragmatic he would have left Sloan or just killed him and not wasted time trying to find a way to help rehabilitate him.
21st Sep '15 1:52:10 PM Zibmaster
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**This one has been referenced over and over as an example of Eragon being like Galby. He could have taken Sloan to the Varden,where he would have briefly been reunited with Katrina,and then executed in front of her for being a traitor. Instead Eragon sends him to the elves, who are versed in healing spiritual pain,which due to the death of his wife is what Sloan suffers from. He gives him a chance at redemption and being healed, ands by the time it happens the war will be done and anger will have subsided (remember the guard Sloan killed had a wife that swore blood vengeance against Roran because he was somewhat connected to the affair, do you think she would have spared the man that actually got him killed? ) and Sloan stands a chance of being forgiven and being able to resume a normal life. Further in order to do this Eragon thinks on Sloan until he knows his true name, which takes a deep and intimate understanding of the person. Remember Eragon also had responsibilities to tend to and not a lot of time to spend on someone who he knows betrayed everyone Eragon cares about and who attempted to destroy his cousins happiness, even being willing to see Roran dead solely so he can continue to have an unhealthy relationship with his daughter. If Eragon was more pragmatic he would have left Sloan or just killed him and not wasted time trying to find a way to help rehabilitate him.
17th Aug '15 2:02:11 PM DoomTay
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* FridgeLogic: [[BigBad Galbatorix]] uses the rules of the Ancient Language to force people to do things for what he thinks is the greater good. When Sloan (a his cousin Roran's traitorous father in law) shows up, Eragon tells Roran that Sloan dead. Then he uses the rules of the Ancient language and forces Sloan to never see his daughter again. All for the good of Roran's marriage, of course.
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* FridgeLogic: [[BigBad Galbatorix]] uses the rules of the Ancient Language to force people to do things for what he thinks is the greater good. When Sloan (a his (his cousin Roran's traitorous father in law) shows up, Eragon tells Roran that Sloan is dead. Then he uses the rules of the Ancient language and forces Sloan to never see his daughter again. All for the good of Roran's marriage, of course.

** Durza, [[BigBad Galbatorix's]] [[TheDragon dragon]] (his henchman, not his literal dragon) in Book I, is described as having pale white skin and red hair. Like [[http://www.raw-living-food-success.com/images/Ronald-[=McDonald=].jpg a certain fast food mascot.]]
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** Durza, [[BigBad Galbatorix's]] [[TheDragon dragon]] (his henchman, not his literal dragon) in Book I, is described as having pale white skin and red hair. Like [[http://www.raw-living-food-success.com/images/Ronald-[=McDonald=].com/images/Ronald-McDonald.jpg a certain fast food mascot.]]
17th Aug '15 1:50:00 AM Fireblood
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* FridgeLogic: [[BigBad Galbatorix]] uses the rules of the Ancient Language to force people to do things for what he thinks is the greater good. When Sloan (a his cousin Roran's traitorous father in law) shows up. Eragon tells Roran that Sloan dead. Then he uses the rules of the Ancient language and forces Sloan to never see his daughter again. All for the good of Roran's marriage, of course. ** The big difference is that, in Galbatorix's view, he would have considered himself rightful to take Sloan's life, a view which even Islanzadí supports. Eragon gave him an infinitely less inhuman punishment, including the opportunity to partially undoing it by repenting his acts. [[spoiler:Which Sloan does.]]
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* FridgeLogic: [[BigBad Galbatorix]] uses the rules of the Ancient Language to force people to do things for what he thinks is the greater good. When Sloan (a his cousin Roran's traitorous father in law) shows up. up, Eragon tells Roran that Sloan dead. Then he uses the rules of the Ancient language and forces Sloan to never see his daughter again. All for the good of Roran's marriage, of course. ** The big difference is that, in Galbatorix's view, he would have considered himself rightful right to take Sloan's life, a view which even Islanzadí supports. Eragon gave him an infinitely less inhuman punishment, including the opportunity to partially undoing it by repenting his acts. [[spoiler:Which Sloan does.]]

* StrawmanHasAPoint: [[BigBad Galbatorix]] can be seen as this. While later books established him as being thoroughly evil and tyrannical, his depiction in early books left him looking pretty good for many readers. His rise to power (in which he won humanity's superiority over the elves and killed the all-powerful dragon riders) is portrayed as a MoralEventHorizon, and he wants to stomp out the [[OurOrcsAreDifferent urgals]], a warlike species whose rite of passage is to find something, ''anything'', and ''kill it''. He's done plenty of unsavory things and isn't to be praised, but he's made humanity safe and superior, and even his enemies acknowledge that his batshit insanity doesn't touch most of his subjects. And he is the established power, with a clear-cut law, as opposed to the [[DesignatedHero Varden]], who will gladly accept you into their group provided you A.) follow your flawed and suicidal orders to the letter, and B.) be sure to ''always'' shower praise on [[SociopathicHero Eragon]], the [[CantArgueWithElves elves]], and your [[InformedAbility visionary leader]], Nasuada. In the end it isn't so much that the Strawman Has A Point, but that the other side is so self-righteous and annoying the reader finds it hard to root for them. Interestingly, at the end of the fourth book, even Eragon seems to come to this opinion at seeing Nasuada adpting some of the Galbatorix directives about magic and people.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: [[BigBad Galbatorix]] can be seen as this. While later books established him as being thoroughly evil and tyrannical, his depiction in early books left him looking pretty good for many readers. His rise to power (in which he won humanity's superiority over the elves and killed the all-powerful dragon riders) is portrayed as a MoralEventHorizon, and he wants to stomp out the [[OurOrcsAreDifferent urgals]], a warlike species whose rite of passage is to find something, ''anything'', and ''kill it''. He's done plenty of unsavory things and isn't to be praised, but he's made humanity safe and superior, and even his enemies acknowledge that his batshit insanity doesn't touch most of his subjects. And he is the established power, with a clear-cut law, as opposed to the [[DesignatedHero Varden]], who will gladly accept you into their group provided you A.) follow your flawed and suicidal orders to the letter, and B.) be sure to ''always'' shower praise on [[SociopathicHero Eragon]], the [[CantArgueWithElves elves]], and your [[InformedAbility visionary leader]], Nasuada. In the end it isn't so much that the Strawman Has A Point, but that the other side is so self-righteous and annoying the reader finds it hard to root for them. Interestingly, at the end of the fourth book, even Eragon seems to come to this opinion at seeing Nasuada adpting adopting some of the Galbatorix directives about magic and people.

* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: Galbatorix, in ''Inheritance''. [[spoiler: He hijacks the magical language itself in the final battle such that only he can use it, effectively depowering nearly every other character. The only reason he lost was that Murtagh was [[HeelFaceTurn not as loyal as he thought]].]] * EnsembleDarkhorse: Murtagh
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* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: Galbatorix, in ''Inheritance''. [[spoiler: He hijacks the magical language itself in the final battle such that only he can use it, effectively depowering [[DePower depowering]] nearly every other character. The only reason he lost was that Murtagh was [[HeelFaceTurn not as loyal as he thought]].]] * EnsembleDarkhorse: MurtaghMurtagh.
16th Jul '15 7:39:06 AM rjd1922
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* EnsembleDarkHorse:
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* EnsembleDarkHorse:EnsembleDarkhorse:

** The latter part may be because some fans left the series at his FaceHeelTurn, since he ''was'' the EnsembleDarkHorse and it seemed like an attempt to get more fans behind Eragon.
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** The latter part may be because some fans left the series at his FaceHeelTurn, since he ''was'' the EnsembleDarkHorse EnsembleDarkhorse and it seemed like an attempt to get more fans behind Eragon.

* EnsembleDarkHorse: Murtagh
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: EnsembleDarkhorse: Murtagh
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