History YMMV / InheritanceCycle

12th Dec '16 3:12:32 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* IKnewIt: Most of the fandom accurately predicted that [[spoiler: Brom is Eragon's father]].
12th Dec '16 3:08:44 PM BlueTangFromPixar
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* IKnewIt: Most of the fandom accurately predicted that [[spoiler: Brom is Eragon's father]].
4th Dec '16 6:08:25 PM Worffan101
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: [[BigBad Galbatorix]] can be seen as this. While later books established him as being thoroughly evil and tyrannical, his depiction in early books left him looking pretty good for many readers. His rise to power (in which he won humanity's superiority over the elves and killed the all-powerful dragon riders) is portrayed as a MoralEventHorizon, and he wants to stomp out the [[OurOrcsAreDifferent urgals]], a warlike species whose rite of passage is to find something, ''anything'', and ''kill it''. He's done plenty of unsavory things and isn't to be praised, but he's made humanity safe and superior, and even his enemies acknowledge that his batshit insanity doesn't touch most of his subjects. Interestingly, at the end of the fourth book, even Eragon seems to come to this opinion at seeing Nasuada adopting some of the Galbatorix directives about magic and people.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: [[BigBad Galbatorix]] can be seen as this. While later books established him as being thoroughly evil and tyrannical, his depiction in early books left him looking pretty good for many readers. His rise to power (in which he won humanity's superiority over the elves and killed the all-powerful dragon riders) is portrayed as a MoralEventHorizon, and he wants to stomp out the [[OurOrcsAreDifferent urgals]], a warlike species whose rite of passage is to find something, ''anything'', and ''kill it''. He's done plenty of unsavory things and isn't to be praised, but he's made humanity safe and superior, and even his enemies acknowledge that his batshit insanity doesn't touch most of his subjects. Interestingly, at the end of the fourth book, even Eragon seems to come to this opinion at seeing Nasuada adopting some of the Galbatorix directives about magic and people. And, especially according to anti-fans, he is the established power, with a clear-cut law, as opposed to the [[DesignatedHero Varden]], who will gladly accept you into their group provided you A.) follow your flawed and suicidal orders to the letter, and B.) be sure to ''always'' shower praise on [[SociopathicHero Eragon]], the [[CantArgueWithElves elves]], and your [[InformedAbility visionary leader]], Nasuada. In the end it isn't so much that the Strawman Has A Point, but that the other side is so self-righteous and annoying the reader finds it hard to root for them.



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%%** Thorn.** Thorn: Forcibly born and magically enslaved, then subjected to massive amounts of rapid-growth magic. He probably isn't very comfortable in his body, to say the least. .
18th Nov '16 11:49:50 AM GothicProphet
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** Durza - [[spoiler: Carsaib never wanted to become a Shade.]]

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** Durza - [[spoiler: Carsaib never wanted to become a Shade.]]]]
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4th Nov '16 7:43:30 AM dlchen145
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Murtagh is a BadAss AntiHero who calls out Eragon on his more WhatTheHellHero moments, is good-looking and pragmatic, and comes complete with a {{Woobie}} backstory and discrimination from the anti-Empire forces who think he's just another stooge for the BigBad like his father. Even after his FaceHeelTurn many readers still preferred him to Eragon.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Murtagh is a BadAss badass AntiHero who calls out Eragon on his more WhatTheHellHero moments, is good-looking and pragmatic, and comes complete with a {{Woobie}} backstory and discrimination from the anti-Empire forces who think he's just another stooge for the BigBad like his father. Even after his FaceHeelTurn many readers still preferred him to Eragon.
2nd Nov '16 10:22:48 PM omegafire17
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** There's also Arya in ''Eragon'': in spite of having been, by her own admission, beaten, tortured, and [[AttemptedRape very nearly raped]] for weeks on end, the biggest reaction we get out of her thereafter is a paragraph of her clenching her jaw a bit as she recounts the events... and after that everything's just peachy. Although that may be [[OurElvesAreBetter a racial thing]] for her, considering one of the things about elves is their iron-control over themselves. Arya is more withdrawn and closed than most of them, and for her even a clenched jaw might equal something stronger from other eleves.

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** There's also Arya in ''Eragon'': in spite of having been, by her own admission, beaten, tortured, and [[AttemptedRape very nearly raped]] for weeks on end, the biggest reaction we get out of her thereafter is a paragraph of her clenching her jaw a bit as she recounts the events... and after that everything's just peachy. Although that may be [[OurElvesAreBetter a racial thing]] for her, considering one of the things about elves is their iron-control over themselves. Arya is also more withdrawn and closed than most of them, and for her even a clenched jaw might equal something stronger from other eleves.others.
2nd Nov '16 10:21:57 PM omegafire17
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** There's also Arya in ''Eragon'': in spite of having been, by her own admission, beaten, tortured, and [[AttemptedRape very nearly raped]] for weeks on end, the biggest reaction we get out of her thereafter is a paragraph of her clenching her jaw a bit as she recounts the events... and after that everything's just peachy, although that may be [[OurElvesAreBetter a racial thing]] for her.
** Nasuada comes back from horrific torture in Galbatorix's lair and seems completely fine.

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** There's also Arya in ''Eragon'': in spite of having been, by her own admission, beaten, tortured, and [[AttemptedRape very nearly raped]] for weeks on end, the biggest reaction we get out of her thereafter is a paragraph of her clenching her jaw a bit as she recounts the events... and after that everything's just peachy, although peachy. Although that may be [[OurElvesAreBetter a racial thing]] for her.
her, considering one of the things about elves is their iron-control over themselves. Arya is more withdrawn and closed than most of them, and for her even a clenched jaw might equal something stronger from other eleves.
** Nasuada comes back from horrific torture in Galbatorix's lair and seems completely fine.fine at first. Later she admits Galbatorix nearly broke her, though little more... given that she's always accompanied by Elva however - the girl who sees peoples' pains, and knows exactly what to say to either heal it, or make it worse - perhaps she's had help in that matter.
26th Oct '16 11:30:26 AM omegafire17
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* DesignatedHero / DesignatedVillain: As you may have seen elsewhere on this page, a great many fans actually perceive Eragon as a villain and Galbatorix as an antihero.

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* DesignatedHero / DesignatedVillain: As you may have seen elsewhere on this page, a great many number of fans actually perceive Eragon as a villain and Galbatorix as an antihero.



* RootingForTheEmpire: Incredibly common. It doesn't help that the book concedes that most of the people living in TheEmpire are happy and at peace, giving the impression that if [[LaResistance the Varden]] would just stop fighting everyone would be fine. And though the emperor is a douche, his evil actions all seem to be about fighting the Varden so, again, his rule would probably be much less tyrannical if the Varden didn't keep going at him. It doesn't help matters that the main character is widely considered to be a DesignatedHero with a lot of KickTheDog moments.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Incredibly common. It doesn't help that the book concedes that most of the people living in TheEmpire are happy and at peace, giving the impression that if [[LaResistance the Varden]] would just stop fighting everyone would be fine. And though the emperor is a douche, his evil actions all seem to be about fighting the Varden so, again, his rule would probably be much less tyrannical if the Varden didn't keep going at him. It doesn't help matters that the main character is widely can considered to be a DesignatedHero with a lot of KickTheDog moments.



** What also seems forgotten is that the Empire ''is'' happy... ''because'' Galbatorix is spending all his time on his secret projects, ie the ones that would allow him full and uncontested control of all magicians; the few times he turned his full attention onto the Empire in that time, they were extremely bloody times, matched only by the war. Yet even if the Varden hadn't waged war, this would have continued until eventually he succeeded, and then considering his tendencies with consolidating power and those who defy him- said 'golden age' would have likely degenerated into something much worse, particularly once you look past the outward appearances. At least the Varden is dedicated to true peace and freedom, as well as fostering relations with the other races, rather than pure control.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: [[BigBad Galbatorix]] can be seen as this. While later books established him as being thoroughly evil and tyrannical, his depiction in early books left him looking pretty good for many readers. His rise to power (in which he won humanity's superiority over the elves and killed the all-powerful dragon riders) is portrayed as a MoralEventHorizon, and he wants to stomp out the [[OurOrcsAreDifferent urgals]], a warlike species whose rite of passage is to find something, ''anything'', and ''kill it''. He's done plenty of unsavory things and isn't to be praised, but he's made humanity safe and superior, and even his enemies acknowledge that his batshit insanity doesn't touch most of his subjects. And he is the established power, with a clear-cut law, as opposed to the [[DesignatedHero Varden]], who will gladly accept you into their group provided you A.) follow your flawed and suicidal orders to the letter, and B.) be sure to ''always'' shower praise on [[SociopathicHero Eragon]], the [[CantArgueWithElves elves]], and your [[InformedAbility visionary leader]], Nasuada. In the end it isn't so much that the Strawman Has A Point, but that the other side is so self-righteous and annoying the reader finds it hard to root for them. Interestingly, at the end of the fourth book, even Eragon seems to come to this opinion at seeing Nasuada adopting some of the Galbatorix directives about magic and people.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: [[BigBad Galbatorix]] can be seen as this. While later books established him as being thoroughly evil and tyrannical, his depiction in early books left him looking pretty good for many readers. His rise to power (in which he won humanity's superiority over the elves and killed the all-powerful dragon riders) is portrayed as a MoralEventHorizon, and he wants to stomp out the [[OurOrcsAreDifferent urgals]], a warlike species whose rite of passage is to find something, ''anything'', and ''kill it''. He's done plenty of unsavory things and isn't to be praised, but he's made humanity safe and superior, and even his enemies acknowledge that his batshit insanity doesn't touch most of his subjects. And he is the established power, with a clear-cut law, as opposed to the [[DesignatedHero Varden]], who will gladly accept you into their group provided you A.) follow your flawed and suicidal orders to the letter, and B.) be sure to ''always'' shower praise on [[SociopathicHero Eragon]], the [[CantArgueWithElves elves]], and your [[InformedAbility visionary leader]], Nasuada. In the end it isn't so much that the Strawman Has A Point, but that the other side is so self-righteous and annoying the reader finds it hard to root for them. Interestingly, at the end of the fourth book, even Eragon seems to come to this opinion at seeing Nasuada adopting some of the Galbatorix directives about magic and people.



%% * BaseBreakingCharacter: Nasuada, following her decision to have Roran whipped for insubordination in ''Brisingr''.

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%% * BaseBreakingCharacter: Nasuada, following her decision to have Roran whipped for insubordination in ''Brisingr''.''Brisingr'' - by her own admission, his deeds are to be praised, and yet precedent/tradition give her little choice, and to break with this could have larger consequences. The question is: is this justified, or not?



* UnintentionallySympathetic: Sloan was trapped in a village surrounded by the Empire's soldiers and human-eating monsters, who wanted to punish him and the rest of the village for the actions of a kid who wasn't there anymore and who Sloan didn't even like. Sloan then surrendered to the Empire to keep his daughter safe...and the Ra'zac pecked out his eyes, threw him into the dungeons of their evil lair and forgot about him, and trapped his daughter nearby. Then Eragon came by, and added insult to injury by cursing Sloan to never see his daughter again, even putting a geas on Sloan to force him to walk halfway across the continent to go and meditate with some arrogant elves until he "reformed". Harsh punishment for a man whose biggest crimes seem to be not liking the hero and wanting to protect his daughter.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Sloan was trapped in a village surrounded by the Empire's soldiers and human-eating monsters, who wanted to punish him and the rest of the village for the actions of a kid who wasn't there anymore and who Sloan didn't even like. Sloan then surrendered to the Empire to keep his daughter safe... and the Ra'zac pecked out his eyes, threw him into the dungeons of their evil lair and forgot about him, and trapped his daughter nearby. Then Eragon came by, and added insult to injury by cursing Sloan to never see his daughter again, even putting a geas on Sloan to force him to walk halfway across the continent to go and meditate with some arrogant elves until he "reformed". Harsh punishment for a man whose biggest crimes seem to be not liking the hero and wanting to protect his daughter. daughter... though admittedly in said surrendering, he sold out the entire village of Carvahall to do so, [[SarcasmMode people he's lived with for years.]]
24th Oct '16 8:49:35 PM omegafire17
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* AssPull: The series features a big 'un in the shape of [[spoiler: magical elf twins, never previously mentioned who cure]] Eragon's achy back scar, allowing him to fight properly again. They turn up once more in the fourth book [[spoiler: make it so Dwarfs and Urgals can become Riders as well, thus solving all racism forever]].

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* AssPull: The series features a big 'un in the shape of [[spoiler: magical elf twins, never previously mentioned who cure]] Eragon's achy back scar, allowing him to fight properly again. again - the only implication is that it's one of the dragon's 'inexplicable' pieces of magic, specifically a physical manifestation of the Rider-Dragon arrangement, but also later revealed that the specifics of the event [[spoiler: that healed Eragon were done by the hidden Dragon Eldanari, when otherwise nothing might have happened at all]]. They turn up once more in the fourth book [[spoiler: so Eragon can make it so Dwarfs and Urgals can become Riders as well, thus solving all racism forever]].
18th Aug '16 1:26:54 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* TheyJustDidntCare: No, the author himself put his all into his series. In this case it was the ''editor'' who was lazy. Aside from making sure that nothing was misspelled there are tons of minor and major continuity mistakes, PurpleProse abound, and somehow the fact that a sentence containing the words "descended upwards" doesn't make any sense went unnoticed.
** The publishing company that picked up the series. Basically the CEO gave his kid a copy of the book, the kid said it was "the best book hed ever read, that was written by a young adult" and instantly published the book as-is (and made sure it was released before the latest ''Literature/HarryPotter'' [[FollowTheLeader book]]).
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