History YMMV / HorusHeresy

16th Oct '17 8:28:18 AM Gosicrystal
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* HilariousInHindsight: That quote from the scholar Karkasy in the first Horus Heresy book: [[spoiler: "Most vigorous of all was the Imperial Creed that insisted humanity adopt the Emperor as a divine being. A God-Emperor of Mankind. The idea was ludicrous and, officially, heretical. The Emperor had always refused such adoration in the most stringent terms, denying his apotheosis. Some said it would only happen after his death, and as he was functionally immortal, that tended to cap the argument."]]
** Made even more hilarious when in ''Vow of Faith'' we find out that [[spoiler:Karkasy's now the greatest supporter and pretty much second-in-command to Euphrati Keeler, the chief preacher of the Imperial Creed.]]
** Aeonid Thie, an Ultramarine sergeant know for getting in trouble for using unorthodox tactics [[spoiler: Is the co-writer of the Codex]].

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That quote from the scholar Karkasy in the first Horus Heresy book: [[spoiler: "Most vigorous of all was the Imperial Creed that insisted humanity adopt the Emperor as a divine being. A God-Emperor of Mankind. The idea was ludicrous and, officially, heretical. The Emperor had always refused such adoration in the most stringent terms, denying his apotheosis. Some said it would only happen after his death, and as he was functionally immortal, that tended to cap the argument."]]
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"]] Made even more hilarious when in ''Vow of Faith'' we find out that [[spoiler:Karkasy's now the greatest supporter and pretty much second-in-command to Euphrati Keeler, the chief preacher of the Imperial Creed.]]
** Aeonid Thie, an Ultramarine sergeant know for getting in trouble for using unorthodox tactics [[spoiler: Is tactics, [[spoiler:is the co-writer of the Codex]].



-->''It starts to rain main battle tanks.''

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-->''It --->''It starts to rain main battle tanks.''



** Let us also not forget of the One True Foursome that is Mournival.
* MagnificentBastard: Horus. Again.

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** Let us also not forget of the The One True Foursome that is Foursome: Mournival.
* MagnificentBastard: Horus. Again.MagnificentBastard:



** The [[spoiler: demon in ''Prospero Burns''. It planted a spy in the Space Wolves that it knew the Wolves would find and believe was sent by the Thousand Sons, which in turn guaranteed that when Magnus the Red tried to warn the Emperor of Horus's impending betrayal via sorcery, he would not only be disbelieved, but treated as a traitor. As a direct result, the Space Wolves were all but annihilated the Thousand Sons and Magnus turned in desperation to Tzeentch to save what remained.]]
*** Not only that, but the above plan was considered only a ''partial victory''. [[spoiler:The demon (possibly Tzeentch/one of his agents) had intended for the Space Wolves/Russ and the Thousand Sons/Magnus to destroy one another completely, as they represented the most powerful magical and physical barriers (respectively) to Horus's impending heresy. Instead, the Space Wolves were only bloodied, but the Thousand Sons survived and turned to Chaos.]]

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** The [[spoiler: demon [[spoiler:demon in ''Prospero Burns''. It planted a spy in the Space Wolves that it knew the Wolves would find and believe was sent by the Thousand Sons, which in turn guaranteed that when Magnus the Red tried to warn the Emperor of Horus's impending betrayal via sorcery, he would not only be disbelieved, but treated as a traitor. As a direct result, the Space Wolves were all but annihilated the Thousand Sons and Magnus turned in desperation to Tzeentch to save what remained.]]
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]] Not only that, but the above this plan was considered only a ''partial victory''. [[spoiler:The demon (possibly Tzeentch/one of his agents) had intended for the Space Wolves/Russ and the Thousand Sons/Magnus to destroy one another completely, as they represented the most powerful magical and physical barriers (respectively) to Horus's impending heresy. Instead, the Space Wolves were only bloodied, but the Thousand Sons survived and turned to Chaos.]]



%%** Horus.



* MoralEventHorizon: Pretty much what the series is about.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Pretty much what the series is about.MoralEventHorizon:
24th Sep '17 5:11:57 PM nombretomado
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* ComeForTheXStayForTheY: Come for the backstory of ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', stay for the sheer amounts of badassery involved in some books.
** ''Know No Fear'': Come for Ultramarines, stay for the SceneryGorn as Abnett channels his inner Creator/MichaelBay.
*** Come for Roboute Guilliman punching a Space Marine's head off, stay for Oll Persson being BadassNormal.
*** Or, alternatively, come because you've heard that's the book where they bring Ollianus Pius back, stay because Guilliman is [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap actually pretty awesome]].
*** Come for the Ultramarines, stay for Aeonid Thiel, the first of their kind to study how to kill Astartes.
** ''Fear To Tread'': Come for Sanguinus and his Blood Angels, stay for Sanguinus/Horus {{bromance}}.
** ''Age of Darkness'' anthology: Come for the HoYay in ''Reflection Crack'd'', stay for the MindScrew of ''The Serpent Beneath''.
** The opening trilogy: Come for Horus, stay for Gavriel Loken.
** ''First Heretic'': Come to see the first Legion to fall, stay for the deep characters.
16th Aug '17 12:22:29 PM MetalKing1417
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*** Master of Mankind in general seems to have shattered the fanbase with its portrayal of the Emperor. Many claim that it shows that the emperor never loved the primarchs in the first place, with him calling them by their numbers instead of names and this alone seems to have created divided opinions of the book, with some simply taking it as canon, while others go for various forms of FanonDiscontinuity. Others say that due to the words used when starting one of his conversations with the custodes, that the words seen in the book are not the ones he actually says, a verbal version of YouCannotComprehendTheTrueForm or that the custodes is having his memories altered by Drach'nyen. Speaking of Drach'nyen, some think that Aaron Dembski-Bowden wrote the him in to [[CharacterShilling shill]] the local MemericLoser Abbadon.

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*** Master of Mankind in general seems to have shattered the fanbase with its portrayal of the Emperor. Many claim that it shows that the emperor never loved the primarchs in the first place, with him calling them by their numbers instead of names and this alone seems to have created divided opinions of the book, with some simply taking it as canon, while others go for various forms of FanonDiscontinuity. Others say that due to the words used when starting one of his conversations with the custodes, that the words seen in the book are not the ones he actually says, a verbal version of YouCannotComprehendTheTrueForm YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm or that the custodes is having his memories altered by Drach'nyen. Speaking of Drach'nyen, some think that Aaron Dembski-Bowden wrote the him in to [[CharacterShilling shill]] the local MemericLoser MemeticLoser Abbadon.
16th Aug '17 12:20:15 PM MetalKing1417
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*** Master of Mankind in general seems to have shattered the fanbase with its portrayal of the Emperor. Many claim that it shows that the emperor never loved the primarchs in the first place, with him calling them by their numbers instead of names and this alone seems to have created divided opinions of the book, with some simply taking it as canon, while others go for various forms of FanonDiscontinuity. Others say that due to the words used when starting one of his conversations with the custodes, that the words seen in the book are not the ones he actually says, a verbal version of YouCannotComprehendTheTrueForm or that the custodes is having his memories altered by Drach'nyen. Speaking of Drach'nyen, some think that Aaron Dembski-Bowden wrote the him in to [[CharacterShilling shill]] the local MemericLoser Abbadon.
8th Jul '17 2:12:17 PM Grandad7
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** Frater Thamatica, due to being claim as one of the funniest Non-Ork characters among fan. What makes it even more humorous is the fact he's happens to be part of the Iron Hands.
7th Jul '17 6:56:25 PM Grandad7
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** Rylanor is quite popular for a few reasons, there are also some fans who theorize what became of him after the Dropsite massacre.

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** Rylanor is quite popular for a few reasons, there are also some fans who theorize what became of him after the Dropsite massacre.Isstvan III.
7th Jul '17 6:52:27 PM Grandad7
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** Rylanor is quite popular for a few reasons, there are also some fans who theorize what became of him after the Dropsite massacre.
18th Apr '17 4:15:58 PM Yukianesa
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* MemeticBadass: Thanks to ''Legion'', fans are convinced that ''everything'' is an Alpha Legion plot.
4th Apr '17 6:43:51 AM SorPepita
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** The Primarchs. ''Ye gods of Chaos'', the Primarchs. Lines are drawn in case of almost every single one and the debates that can break out could power Khorne for decades to come. Pretty much the only Primarch whom everyone can agree is generally okay is Ferrus Manus, and that's probably only because he died to early to become divisive. For the most heated arguments:

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** The Primarchs. ''Ye gods of Chaos'', the Primarchs. Lines are drawn in case of almost every single one and the debates that can break out could power Khorne for decades to come. Pretty much the only Primarch whom everyone can agree is generally okay is Ferrus Manus, and that's probably only because he died to too early to become divisive. For the most heated arguments:



* DesignatedHero: Even before the actual heresy and before any Space Marine had fallen to Chaos, many of the actions undertaken by the primarchs and the expedition fleets were... questionable, at best. Fulgrim and Ferrus Manus's ruthless extermination of the Diasporex, a democratic confederacy where humans and aliens lived in peace together and only wanted to be left alone, simply because the humans co-operated with xenos and refused to join the Imperium, is probably the best example.



* DesignatedHero: Even before the actual heresy and before any Space Marine had fallen to Chaos, many of the actions undertaken by the primarchs and the expedition fleets were... questionable, at best. Fulgrim and Ferrus Manus's ruthless extermination of the Diasporex, a democratic confederacy where humans and aliens lived in peace together and only wanted to be left alone, simply because the humans co-operated with xenos and refused to join the Imperium, is probably the best example.



** He was a being of impossible power. Almost divine in nature. As more divine a man becomes, just as well his humanity fades. It is not unfeasible to believe that he was disconnected from humanity in such a way that he did not expect certain things anymore, like his sons disloyalty.

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** He was a being of impossible power. Almost divine in nature. As more divine a man becomes, just as well his humanity fades. It is not unfeasible to believe that he was disconnected from humanity in such a way that he did not expect certain things anymore, like his sons sons' disloyalty.
15th Mar '17 2:50:58 PM Doug86
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* ComeForTheXStayForTheY: Come for the backstory of ''TabletopGames/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', stay for the sheer amounts of badassery involved in some books.

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* ComeForTheXStayForTheY: Come for the backstory of ''TabletopGames/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', stay for the sheer amounts of badassery involved in some books.
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