History YMMV / HorusHeresy

18th Apr '17 4:15:58 PM Yukianesa
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* MemeticBadass: Thanks to ''Legion'', fans are convinced that ''everything'' is an Alpha Legion plot.
4th Apr '17 6:43:51 AM SorPepita
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** The Primarchs. ''Ye gods of Chaos'', the Primarchs. Lines are drawn in case of almost every single one and the debates that can break out could power Khorne for decades to come. Pretty much the only Primarch whom everyone can agree is generally okay is Ferrus Manus, and that's probably only because he died to early to become divisive. For the most heated arguments:

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** The Primarchs. ''Ye gods of Chaos'', the Primarchs. Lines are drawn in case of almost every single one and the debates that can break out could power Khorne for decades to come. Pretty much the only Primarch whom everyone can agree is generally okay is Ferrus Manus, and that's probably only because he died to too early to become divisive. For the most heated arguments:



* DesignatedHero: Even before the actual heresy and before any Space Marine had fallen to Chaos, many of the actions undertaken by the primarchs and the expedition fleets were... questionable, at best. Fulgrim and Ferrus Manus's ruthless extermination of the Diasporex, a democratic confederacy where humans and aliens lived in peace together and only wanted to be left alone, simply because the humans co-operated with xenos and refused to join the Imperium, is probably the best example.



* DesignatedHero: Even before the actual heresy and before any Space Marine had fallen to Chaos, many of the actions undertaken by the primarchs and the expedition fleets were... questionable, at best. Fulgrim and Ferrus Manus's ruthless extermination of the Diasporex, a democratic confederacy where humans and aliens lived in peace together and only wanted to be left alone, simply because the humans co-operated with xenos and refused to join the Imperium, is probably the best example.



** He was a being of impossible power. Almost divine in nature. As more divine a man becomes, just as well his humanity fades. It is not unfeasible to believe that he was disconnected from humanity in such a way that he did not expect certain things anymore, like his sons disloyalty.

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** He was a being of impossible power. Almost divine in nature. As more divine a man becomes, just as well his humanity fades. It is not unfeasible to believe that he was disconnected from humanity in such a way that he did not expect certain things anymore, like his sons sons' disloyalty.
15th Mar '17 2:50:58 PM Doug86
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* ComeForTheXStayForTheY: Come for the backstory of ''TabletopGames/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', stay for the sheer amounts of badassery involved in some books.

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* ComeForTheXStayForTheY: Come for the backstory of ''TabletopGames/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', stay for the sheer amounts of badassery involved in some books.
26th Dec '16 7:33:14 AM MrStath2015
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** The Literature/{{Space Wol|f}}ves are regarded as savage, brutish, even unworthy of being {{Space Marine}}s by their fellows -- in the 41st millennium, they are actually one of the nicer chapters.
** [[spoiler: ''Wolf King'' story reveals that though Leman Russ took his father's order to become TheDreaded and HeroKiller to heart, after destruction of Prospero and Magnus's presumed death he decided to abandon this role and change his Legion and himself lest they have no allies. It seems it worked.]]

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** The Literature/{{Space Wol|f}}ves are regarded as savage, brutish, even unworthy of being {{Space Marine}}s by their fellows -- in the 41st millennium, they are actually one of the nicer chapters.
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chapters. ''Prospero Burns'' takes the former note and runs with it, with no less than [[spoiler:Russ himself detailing that they are the Emperor's executioners because that's their role in the scheme of things, but the novel also details that the Wolves are much more than their reputation suggests]].
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[[spoiler: ''Wolf King'' story reveals that though Leman Russ took his father's order to become TheDreaded and HeroKiller to heart, after destruction of Prospero and Magnus's presumed death he decided to abandon this role and change his Legion and himself lest they have no allies. It seems it worked.]]
3rd Dec '16 8:50:04 PM Mitchz95
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** The Battle of Istvaan V, also known as the Drop Site Massacre. Among its highlights, eleven Legions battling each other eight-against-three, Ferrus Manus getting killed in a duel against possessed!Fulgrim and Vulkan ''sending enemy heavy tanks flying with his hammer''.

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** The Battle of Istvaan Isstvan V, also known as the Drop Site Massacre. Among its highlights, eleven Legions battling each other eight-against-three, Ferrus Manus getting killed in a duel against possessed!Fulgrim and Vulkan ''sending enemy heavy tanks flying with his hammer''.


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** Horus vaults over it when he [[spoiler:uses virus bombs to destroy Isstvan III, killing off its twelve billion inhabitants and at least a third of the loyalist Astartes on the planet]]. To top it off, he [[spoiler:gathers together all the rememberencers on his ship and [[ForcedToWatch forces them to watch the planet die]] before ordering his troops to gun them all down]].
1st Dec '16 10:32:05 PM Steam_Lord
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** On a more meta level, among the series' [[DependingOnTheWriter various writers]], Aaron Dembski-Bowden can be considered a source of this, as he while overall considered a good writer, his interpretation of the emperor as more or less a monster is not popular with most of the fandom and does not line up well with pretty much every other interpretation of him in the franchise, and is as such either [[FanonDiscontinuity ignored]] or considered to be from the perspective of his [[UnreliableNarrator enemies, and as such, not to be trusted]].

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** On a more meta level, among the series' [[DependingOnTheWriter various writers]], Aaron Dembski-Bowden can be considered a source of this, as he while overall considered a good writer, his interpretation of the emperor Emperor as more or less a monster in ''The First Heretic'' and ''The Master of Mankind'' is not popular with most of the fandom and does not line up well with pretty much every other interpretation of him in the franchise, and is as such either [[FanonDiscontinuity ignored]] or considered to be from the perspective of his [[UnreliableNarrator enemies, and as such, not to be trusted]].
1st Dec '16 12:43:49 PM MetalKing1417
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** On a more meta level, among the series' [[DependingOnTheWriter various writers]], Aaron Dembski-Bowden can be considered this, as he while overall considered a good writer, his interpretation of the emperor as more or less a monster is not popular with most of the fandom, and is either [[FanonDiscontinuity ignored]] or considered to be from the perspective of his [[UnreliableNarrator enemies, and as such, not to be trusted]].

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** On a more meta level, among the series' [[DependingOnTheWriter various writers]], Aaron Dembski-Bowden can be considered a source of this, as he while overall considered a good writer, his interpretation of the emperor as more or less a monster is not popular with most of the fandom, fandom and does not line up well with pretty much every other interpretation of him in the franchise, and is as such either [[FanonDiscontinuity ignored]] or considered to be from the perspective of his [[UnreliableNarrator enemies, and as such, not to be trusted]].
30th Nov '16 5:52:04 PM MetalKing1417
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** On a more meta level, among the series' [[DependingOnTheWriter various writers]], Aaron Dembski-Bowden can be considered this, as he while overall considered a good writer, his interpretation of the emperor as more or less a monster is not popular with most of the fandom, and is either [[FanonDiscanonuity ignored]] or considered to be from the perspective of his [[UnreliableNarator enemies, and as such, not to be trusted]].

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** On a more meta level, among the series' [[DependingOnTheWriter various writers]], Aaron Dembski-Bowden can be considered this, as he while overall considered a good writer, his interpretation of the emperor as more or less a monster is not popular with most of the fandom, and is either [[FanonDiscanonuity [[FanonDiscontinuity ignored]] or considered to be from the perspective of his [[UnreliableNarator [[UnreliableNarrator enemies, and as such, not to be trusted]].
30th Nov '16 5:50:31 PM MetalKing1417
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** On a more meta level, among the series' [[DependingOnTheWriter various writers]], Aaron Dembski-Bowden can be considered this, as he while overall considered a good writer, his interpretation of the emperor as more or less a monster is not popular with most of the fandom, and is either [[FanonDiscanonuity ignored]] or considered to be from the perspective of his [[UnreliableNarator enemies, and as such, not to be trusted]].
12th Nov '16 9:03:06 PM KingClark
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* ComeForTheXStayForTheY: Come for the backstory of ''TabletopGames/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', stay for the sheer amounts of badassery, awesome and CrazyAwesome involved in some books.

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* ComeForTheXStayForTheY: Come for the backstory of ''TabletopGames/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', stay for the sheer amounts of badassery, awesome and CrazyAwesome badassery involved in some books.
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