History YMMV / HomicideLifeOnTheStreet

3rd Sep '17 8:29:49 PM Angeldeb82
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** Sheppard's gun-taking fiasco from season seven, which made her look weak, incompetent and untrustworthy. Lewis, regardless if he were justified in doing so or not, looked like an even bigger JerkAss who alienated the others against her and even the [[CreatorsPet "go]][[DesignatedHero od"]] female detectives turned on her for making ''them'' look bad. Even worse, this ended up being one of the seasons' ''main storylines.''

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** Sheppard's gun-taking fiasco from season seven, which made her look weak, incompetent and untrustworthy. Lewis, regardless if he were justified in doing so or not, looked like an even bigger JerkAss {{Jerkass}} who alienated the others against her and even the [[CreatorsPet "go]][[DesignatedHero od"]] female detectives turned on her for making ''them'' look bad. Even worse, this ended up being one of the seasons' ''main storylines.''



* MartyStu: Falsone, especially in the sixth season.



* {{Narm}}: The scene between Lewis and Kellerman on the latter's houseboat in the "Have a Conscience" episode. Aside from failing to portray [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic Kellerman as sympathetic]] and [[NoSympathy Lewis as genuinely concerned]], it just looked like a poorly done version of the [[spoiler:suicide scene]] from ''Film/ScentOfAWoman''. Also, what was the point of Lewis' comment of him trying to stop it so that [[WhamLine "no one else blames me again for my partner's suicide"?]] It made him look like a conceited {{jerkass}} who did it not out of concern for his partner, but for reasons involving [[ItsAllAboutMe self-preservation and narcissism.]]

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* {{Narm}}: The scene between Lewis and Kellerman on the latter's houseboat in the "Have a Conscience" episode. Aside from failing to portray [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic Kellerman as sympathetic]] and [[NoSympathy Lewis as genuinely concerned]], it just looked like a poorly done version of the [[spoiler:suicide scene]] from ''Film/ScentOfAWoman''. Also, what was the point of Lewis' comment of him trying to stop it so that [[WhamLine "no one else blames me again for my partner's suicide"?]] It made him look like a conceited {{jerkass}} who did it not out of concern for his partner, but for reasons involving [[ItsAllAboutMe self-preservation and narcissism.]]narcissism]].
17th Jul '17 6:50:01 PM glickmam
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** Creator/ReedDiamond as Mike Kellerman.



** Reed Diamond (Mike Kellerman) is also best known for playing Damien Karp on ''Series/FranklinAndBash''.
2nd Jul '17 9:10:08 PM habby
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The afterlife scene at the end of the movie. It's meant to offer a bit of closure and to bring back the two deceased characters for a cameo that they otherwise could not do, but it comes off as a bit weird given the series has mostly stayed grounded in reality until now.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The afterlife scene at the end of the movie. It's meant to offer a bit of closure and to bring back the two deceased characters for a cameo that they otherwise could not do, but it comes off as a bit weird given the series has mostly stayed grounded in reality until now.



** Arguably Ballard was a far worse offender, at least initially. The episode in which she first appeared had Giardello and all the members of the unit who didn't get transferred [[CharacterShilling talking about how great a detective she was]]. The same three-parter had her moaning about how [[ChillyReception Pembleton doesn't seem to respect her]] and has Pembleton refuse to follow a completely obvious lead (instead following one that was completely out there) just so that she could look good. Fortunately she became increasingly side-lined (unfortunately in favour of Falsone). Unfortunately she never went away.
** Most of Season 6's additions probably also count, with fan-favourites Pembleton, Kellerman and Lewis getting sidelined in favour of storylines involving the newer characters. The TV-movie saw some of these characters get relegated for old favourites.

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** Arguably Ballard was a far worse offender, at least initially. The episode in which she first appeared had Giardello and all the members of the unit who didn't get transferred [[CharacterShilling talking about how great a detective she was]]. The same three-parter had her moaning about how [[ChillyReception Pembleton doesn't seem to respect her]] and has Pembleton refuse to follow a completely obvious lead (instead following one that was completely out there) just so that she could look good. Fortunately she became increasingly side-lined (unfortunately in favour of Falsone). Unfortunately she never went away. \n** Most of Season 6's additions probably also count, with fan-favourites Pembleton, Kellerman and Lewis getting sidelined in favour of storylines involving the newer characters. The TV-movie saw some of these characters get relegated for old favourites.



** "Black and Blue", where a black man is (probably) shot by a cop, is not a comfortable episode. But Giardello's insistence that cops stick together and get the benefit of the doubt becomes especially disturbing in the light of Ferguson and the other police killings of late 2014.

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** "Black and Blue", where a black man is (probably) shot by a cop, is not a comfortable episode. But Giardello's insistence that cops stick together and get the benefit of the doubt becomes especially disturbing doubt, born from his being a patrolman during riots in the 1960s, is harsher in the light of Ferguson and the other police killings of late 2014.



* JerkassWoobie: Munch. An insufferable, sarcastic jerk he may be at times but so many bad things have happened to the guy (Being dumped by various women, being bullied in school, being clearly traumatized after seeing his friends shot, and feeling guilty over his abusive father's suicide) that You can't help but feel bad for him.

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* JerkassWoobie: Munch. An insufferable, sarcastic jerk he may be at times but so many bad things have happened to the guy (Being dumped by various women, being bullied in school, being clearly traumatized after seeing his friends shot, and feeling guilty over his abusive father's suicide) that You you can't help but feel bad for him.



* PoorMansSubstitute: The writers seemingly wanted to set-up Gharty as Bolander's poor man's substitute. This is lampshaded by Munch, who claims that a certain trait of Gharty's reminds him of Bolander. However, while both are older, overweight, and conservative, Gharty doesn't have Bolander's charm or ability to stand up for himself.

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* PoorMansSubstitute: The writers seemingly wanted to set-up Gharty as Bolander's poor man's substitute. This is substitute, even being lampshaded by Munch, who claims that a certain trait of Gharty's reminds him of Bolander.Munch. However, while both are older, overweight, and conservative, Gharty doesn't have Bolander's charm or ability to stand up for himself.
2nd Jul '17 9:04:03 PM habby
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* PoorMansSubstitute: The writers seemingly wanted to set-up Gharty as Bolander's poor man's substitute. This is lampshaded by Munch, who claims that a certain trait of Gharty's reminds him of Bolander. However, this [[AnalogyBackfire analogy falls down]] in a number of places. For example, while broadly they might be similar (Both are older, in less than perfect shape and fairly conservative Gharty has a number of negative personality traits not shared by Bolander that ultimately make him less likeable (Gharty is a bigot, a coward and usually flirts with Munch's bartender/girlfriend/fiancée/wife). In addition Gharty lets himself get pushed around in ways that Bolander would never stand for.

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* PoorMansSubstitute: The writers seemingly wanted to set-up Gharty as Bolander's poor man's substitute. This is lampshaded by Munch, who claims that a certain trait of Gharty's reminds him of Bolander. However, this [[AnalogyBackfire analogy falls down]] in a number of places. For example, while broadly they might be similar (Both both are older, in less than perfect shape overweight, and fairly conservative conservative, Gharty has a number of negative personality traits not shared by Bolander that ultimately make him less likeable (Gharty is a bigot, a coward and usually flirts with Munch's bartender/girlfriend/fiancée/wife). In addition Gharty lets himself get pushed around in ways that Bolander would never doesn't have Bolander's charm or ability to stand for.up for himself.
2nd Jul '17 8:58:11 PM habby
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** Pembleton was, and continues to be, Homicide's most popular character. To the point that the only season without him is what killed the series.
11th May '17 5:22:18 PM glickmam
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** Creator/RichardBelzer as John Munch.
** Creator/AndreBraugher as Frank Pembleton.
** Creator/YaphetKotto as Al Giardello.
** Creator/JonPolito as Steve Crosetti.
** Melissa Leo (Kay Howard) is also best known for playing Linda Warner on ''Series/AllMyChildren'', Emma Shannon on ''Series/TheYoungRiders'', and Toni Bernette in ''Series/{{Treme}}''.
** Reed Diamond (Mike Kellerman) is also best known for playing Damien Karp on ''Series/FranklinAndBash''.
** Michelle Forbes (Julianna Cox) is also best known for playing Dr. Sonni Carrera-Lewis on ''Series/GuidingLight'', Kate Weston on ''Series/InTreatment'', Maryann Forrester on ''Series/TrueBlood'', Mitch Larsen on ''Series/TheKilling'', and Valerie Edwards on ''Series/BerlinStation''.
** Jon Seda (Paul Falsone) is also best known for playing Nelson Hidalgo on ''Series/{{Treme}}'' and Antonio Dawson on ''Series/ChicagoPD'' and ''Series/ChicagoJustice''.
** Callie Thorne (Laura Ballard) is also best known for playing Sheila Keefe on ''Series/RescueMe'' and Dani Santino on ''Series/NecessaryRoughness''.
** Michael Michele (Rene Sheppard) is also best known for playing Nikki Sheridan on ''Series/CentralParkWest'' and Cleo Finch on ''Series/{{ER}}''.
** Giancarlo Esposito (Mike Giardello) is also best known for playing Tom Divack on ''Series/TheStreet'', Gustavo "Gus" Fring on ''Series/BreakingBad'', and Tom Neville on ''Series/{{Revolution}}''.
** Zeljko Ivanek had a recurring role as ASA Ed Danvers. Ivanek is best known for playing Raymond "Ray" Fiske on ''Series/{{Damages}}'', Blake Sterling on ''Series/TheEvent'', and Russell Jackson on ''Series/MadamSecretary''.
** Lee Tergesen also had a recurring role as Officer Chris Thormann. Tergesen is best known for playing Tobias Beecher on ''Series/{{Oz}}''.
** Christopher Meloni also had a recurring role as bounty hunter Dennis Knoll. Meloni is best known for playing Elliot Stabler on ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''.
** Mekhi Phifer also had a recurring role as Junior Bunk. Phifer is best known for playing Dr. Greg Pratt on ''Series/{{ER}}'' and Ben Reynolds on ''Series/LieToMe''.
** Austin Pendleton also had a recurring role as Dr. George Griscom, ME. Pendleton is best known for playing Motel Kamzoil in ''Theatre/FiddlerOnTheRoof''.
18th Dec '16 5:34:57 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* CreatorsPet: Falsone, who solved all of his cases (including one cold case), made up with his wife, and simultaneously successfully investigated every single aspect of Kellerman's Mahoney shooting without attracting any criticism outside of Kellerman. He was brought closer to Earth in Season 7.

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* CreatorsPet: CreatorsPet:
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Falsone, who solved all of his cases (including one cold case), made up with his wife, and simultaneously successfully investigated every single aspect of Kellerman's Mahoney shooting without attracting any criticism outside of Kellerman. He was brought closer to Earth in Season 7.



* ReplacementScrappy: Ballard, Sheppard, the younger Giardello, Falsone. Any character introduced after S5.

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* ReplacementScrappy: ReplacementScrappy:
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Ballard, Sheppard, the younger Giardello, Falsone. Any character introduced after S5.



* RetroactiveRecognition: Jeffrey Donovan of ''Series/BurnNotice'' appears as a redneck spree killer. [[spoiler:And his mild-mannered twin brother!]]
* TheScrappy: Falsone was so loathed by some fans that one of the first television hatedom websites was created in his honour.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Jeffrey Donovan RetroactiveRecognition:
** Matt Reeves directed an episode. Reeves is best known as co-creator and co-executive producer
of ''Series/BurnNotice'' appears as a redneck spree killer. [[spoiler:And ''Series/{{Felicity}}''.
** Creator/SteveBuscemi also directed an episode.
** Creator/KathyBates also directed an episode.
** In addition to
his mild-mannered twin brother!]]
work on ''Homicide: Life on the Street'', Paul Attanasio is best known as co-creator and co-executive producer of ''Series/{{Bull}}''.
** In addition to writing the book this series was based on and serving as producer, David Simon is best known as creator and executive producer of ''Series/TheWire'' and co-creator and co-executive producer of ''Series/{{Treme}}''.
** Tom Fontana wrote 67 episodes and served as executive producer. Fontana is best known as creator and executive producer of ''Series/{{Oz}}'' and ''Series/{{Borgia}}'' and as co-creator and executive producer of ''Series/{{Copper}}''.
** Henry Bromell wrote 25 episodes and served as consulting producer, co-executive producer, and executive producer. Bromell is best known as co-creator and co-executive producer of ''Series/FallingWater''.
** Eric Overmyer wrote 11 episodes and served as consulting producer, producer, and supervising producer. Overmyer is best known as developer and executive producer of ''Series/{{Bosch}}'' and for co-creating ''Treme''.
** Kevin Arkadie wrote an episode. Arkadie is best known as co-creator and producer of ''Series/NewYorkUndercover''.
* TheScrappy: TheScrappy:
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Falsone was so loathed by some fans that one of the first television hatedom websites was created in his honour.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Bayliss' character switch towards the end of season five when he ended his partnership with Pembleton and became an IronWoobie and a {{Determinator}} and stopped allowing the other detectives, especially his former partner, to walk all over him. The writers, [[WhatAnIdiot for some reason]] or another, didn't like this and turned him back into the regular [[TheWoobie woobie]] that the audiences saw earlier.
** Ned Beatty's leaving meant they couldn't do more with his adjusting to being back at work after being shot. The best they could do was imply that it changed him, as Bolander would never have previously done what he did to get himself suspended.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
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Bayliss' character switch towards the end of season five when he ended his partnership with Pembleton and became an IronWoobie and a {{Determinator}} and stopped allowing the other detectives, especially his former partner, to walk all over him. The writers, [[WhatAnIdiot for some reason]] or another, didn't like this and turned him back into the regular [[TheWoobie woobie]] that the audiences saw earlier.
** Ned Beatty's Creator/NedBeatty's leaving meant they couldn't do more with his adjusting to being back at work after being shot. The best they could do was imply that it changed him, as Bolander would never have previously done what he did to get himself suspended.
17th Aug '16 7:19:30 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Bayliss' character switch towards the end of season five when he ended his partnership with Pembleton and became an IronWoobie and a {{Determinator}} and stopped allowing the other detectives, especially his former partner, to walk all over him. The writers, [[WhatAnIdiot for some reason]] [[TheyJustDidntCare or another]], didn't like this and turned him back into the regular [[TheWoobie woobie]] that the audiences saw earlier.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Bayliss' character switch towards the end of season five when he ended his partnership with Pembleton and became an IronWoobie and a {{Determinator}} and stopped allowing the other detectives, especially his former partner, to walk all over him. The writers, [[WhatAnIdiot for some reason]] [[TheyJustDidntCare or another]], another, didn't like this and turned him back into the regular [[TheWoobie woobie]] that the audiences saw earlier.
30th Oct '15 5:10:42 PM Erin582
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* SpecialEffectFailure: Gee's [[DodgeToupee very bad, very obvious toupee]] seen in season three. This could double as {{Narm}}.

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* SpecialEffectFailure: Gee's [[DodgeToupee [[DodgyToupee very bad, very obvious toupee]] seen in season three. This could double as {{Narm}}.
30th Oct '15 5:08:12 PM Erin582
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Every character (particularly the older ones) is looked at as this (i.e., Munch, funny DeadpanSnarker or emotionally damaged [[TheCynic cynic]]; Pembleton, witty, hard-working [[TheHero hero]] or [[BlackAndWhiteMorality Black-and-White thinking]] snob?) But a vocal community has subjected Lewis to this trope. Cool, [[FairCop handsome]], and the most stable of all the cops, or an aloof, cocky {{Jerkass}} who [[ItsAllAboutMe only looks out for number one]] and seems to make [[NiceJobBreakingItHero a variety of serious errors]]?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Every character (particularly the older ones) is looked at as this (i.e., Munch, funny DeadpanSnarker or emotionally damaged [[TheCynic cynic]]; Pembleton, witty, hard-working [[TheHero hero]] or [[BlackAndWhiteMorality Black-and-White thinking]] snob?) But a vocal community has subjected Lewis to this trope. Cool, [[FairCop handsome]], and the most stable of all the cops, or an aloof, cocky {{Jerkass}} who [[ItsAllAboutMe only looks out for number one]] and seems to make made [[NiceJobBreakingItHero a variety of serious errors]]?


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* SpecialEffectFailure: Gee's [[DodgeToupee very bad, very obvious toupee]] seen in season three. This could double as {{Narm}}.
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