History YMMV / HighSchoolMusical

28th Jun '16 4:12:35 AM MagBas
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* RootingForTheEmpire: A lot of people seem to prefer Sharpay and Ryan to the MarySue heroes.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: A lot of people seem to prefer Sharpay and Ryan to the MarySue heroes.
21st Mar '16 11:54:02 PM chaokiwi
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* DeaderThanDisco: The movie was a massive hit for the Disney Channel between 2006-2010 but has since fallen into obscurity as an example of what was wrong with the Disney Channel in that era.
14th Mar '16 1:24:15 PM HeliosPhoenix
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** It may be seen as this in universe as well. Throughout the number, we get repeated cuts to Troy, who's facial expressions likely mirror that of the audience.
14th Mar '16 12:38:45 PM HeliosPhoenix
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** The finale for the third movie has the cast end the song jumping in front of a literal TitleDrop. Then we get a close up of each of the character's faces. There's no dancing, no singing, just them standing there smiling, before taking a company bow. It seems awkward at first, but then it hits you: this is their curtain call. These six talented actors are saying goodbye to their characters, and to us. It's a subtle, but effective, instance of LeaningOnTheFourthWall
*** The lyrics of the song ("High School Musical") don't help either, especially when you consider that out of the main cast only ZacEfron and VanessaHudgens really went on to have successful careers.
1st Mar '16 6:44:18 PM SailorTardis
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* MarySue:
** Gabriella is a gorgeous and brilliant new girl in school who immediately attracts the big man on campus and lands the leading role in a school play because of her stellar singing ability. To make things worse, while the first film at least portrays her as a ShrinkingViolet with terrible stage fright who has no friends and no apparent hobbies outside of studying (until she tries singing), the second and third present her as super-popular and trained in various skills (life guarding, first aid, etc).
** Troy falls into this too: Very attractive, great at almost every sport, so good at singing/theater he's put up for a scholarship at Julliard with zero training and the most popular guy in school. However both of them are somewhat saved by being a BrokenAce, not happy with the pressure on them and aware their popularity vanishes the moment they fail and let people down.
21st Feb '16 5:29:27 PM creader
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* BrokenAesop: Between #1 and #3 vs #2. The moral of the first film is essentially 'Support other's dreams rather than tearing them down' (The wildcats accepting Troy and Gabriella singing). The second film switches to 'Your friend's pressuring is more important than your dreams.' (Troy trying to win a scholarship). Then the third film jumps back onto the 'support each other' wagon. (Troy doing basketball ''and'' singing, Gabriella going to Stanford, Kelsi wanting to do the show together). If you're confused, fair enough.
** Perhaps it's not to sacrifice your friends for the future or that the means don't justify the ends.



* DoubleStandard: Sharpay's pursuit of Troy in the second film comes across as sexual harassment and blackmail but she's EasilyForgiven by the end and her more extreme moves are PlayedForLaughs. Troy is clearly uncomfortable and nervous around her, but is still forced to shoulder most of the blame, even though she's actively stalking him and his job means he can't avoid her.



* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop:
** The second film has several, the worst one being that hanging out with your high school friends is more important than your whole future. Troy is portrayed as the bad guy for missing a few ball games because he's trying to get a scholarship and earn money for college. He's redeemed when he throws away chances of impressing the College board so the other wildcats will be friends with him again.

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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop:
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FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: The second film has several, the worst one being that hanging out with your high school friends is more important than your whole future. Troy is portrayed as the bad guy for missing a few ball games because he's trying to get a scholarship and earn money for college. He's redeemed when he throws away chances of impressing the College board so the other wildcats will be friends with him again.
14th Feb '16 5:29:51 PM HayagamiMononoke
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** [[http://boltonevans.tumblr.com/ This]] tumblr user sees the romantic relationship between Gabriella and Troy as an emotionally abusive relationship - with Gabriella as the abuser. Their best arguments can be found [[http://boltonevans.tumblr.com/post/121779417273/how-is-gabriella-abusive-not-being-mean here]] (which contains links to their other arguments) and [[http://boltonevans.tumblr.com/post/136711493063/whats-your-opinion-on-gabriella-in-the-hsm-films here]], as well as in the tags of various things the user reblogs.
3rd Feb '16 3:21:21 PM rememberthehood1941
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*** Not only that...but the school administrators don't seem to notice this.
23rd Jan '16 6:55:48 PM dsneybuf
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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The games are pretty good, but only because of what gameplay they’re based on. The first two games on [[UsefulNotes/NintendoDS DS]] use the ''[[EliteBeatAgents Elite Beat Agents]]/[[OsuTatakaeOuendan Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan]]'' gameplay, while the third DS game uses ''[[GitarooMan Gitaroo Man’s]]'' gameplay. The console ''High School Musical 3 Dance!'' game also uses [[DanceDanceRevolution DDR]] gameplay on dance pads (On ''UsefulNotes/{{Wii}}'', it's Wii Remote and Nunchuk). While it's somewhat simplistic in terms of difficulty, it does serve as a decent rhythm game. Unfortunately, all the games use [[CoverVersion covers]], which is ironic since Disney develops the games and made the movies. The GameBoyAdvance game based on the first movie does have it's own merits too, despite being one half platformer, one half rhythm game.



* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Somehow averted. The games for it are pretty good, but only because of what gameplay they’re based on. The first two games on [[UsefulNotes/NintendoDS DS]] use the ''[[EliteBeatAgents Elite Beat Agents]]/[[OsuTatakaeOuendan Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan]]'' gameplay, while the third DS game uses ''[[GitarooMan Gitaroo Man’s]]'' gameplay. The console ''High School Musical 3 Dance!'' game also uses [[DanceDanceRevolution DDR]] gameplay on dance pads (On ''UsefulNotes/{{Wii}}'', it's Wii Remote and Nunchuk). While it's somewhat simplistic in terms of difficulty, it does serve as a decent rhythm game. Unfortunately, all the games use [[CoverVersion covers]], which is ironic since Disney develops the games and made the movies.
** The GameBoyAdvance game based on the first movie does have it's own merits too, despite being one half platformer, one half rhythm game.
26th Dec '15 2:08:32 AM annette12
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the second movie Sharpay tries to get Troy to perform "Humuhumunukunukuapua'a" with her, an extravagant Hawaiian themed number about a pineapple princess and a fish prince falling in love. Characteristic of Sharpay, this is a huge production number with backup dancers and Ryan narrating, providing sound effects/fog, and playing the ocean and fish. Much {{Narm}} is involved. It makes just as much sense in context and is never brought up again or acknowledged in the plot. No wonder it's not in the Creator/DisneyChannel airings, but limited to the home video release.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the second movie Sharpay tries to get Troy to perform "Humuhumunukunukuapua'a" with her, an extravagant Hawaiian themed number about a pineapple princess and a fish prince falling in love. Characteristic of Sharpay, this is a huge production number with backup dancers and Ryan narrating, providing sound effects/fog, and playing the ocean and fish. Much {{Narm}} is involved. It makes just as much sense in context and is never brought up again or acknowledged in the plot. No wonder it's not in the Creator/DisneyChannel airings, but limited to the home video release.
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