History YMMV / HighSchoolMusical

3rd Feb '16 3:21:21 PM rememberthehood1941
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*** Not only that...but the school administrators don't seem to notice this.
23rd Jan '16 6:55:48 PM dsneybuf
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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: The games are pretty good, but only because of what gameplay they’re based on. The first two games on [[UsefulNotes/NintendoDS DS]] use the ''[[EliteBeatAgents Elite Beat Agents]]/[[OsuTatakaeOuendan Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan]]'' gameplay, while the third DS game uses ''[[GitarooMan Gitaroo Man’s]]'' gameplay. The console ''High School Musical 3 Dance!'' game also uses [[DanceDanceRevolution DDR]] gameplay on dance pads (On ''UsefulNotes/{{Wii}}'', it's Wii Remote and Nunchuk). While it's somewhat simplistic in terms of difficulty, it does serve as a decent rhythm game. Unfortunately, all the games use [[CoverVersion covers]], which is ironic since Disney develops the games and made the movies. The GameBoyAdvance game based on the first movie does have it's own merits too, despite being one half platformer, one half rhythm game.

* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Somehow averted. The games for it are pretty good, but only because of what gameplay they’re based on. The first two games on [[UsefulNotes/NintendoDS DS]] use the ''[[EliteBeatAgents Elite Beat Agents]]/[[OsuTatakaeOuendan Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan]]'' gameplay, while the third DS game uses ''[[GitarooMan Gitaroo Man’s]]'' gameplay. The console ''High School Musical 3 Dance!'' game also uses [[DanceDanceRevolution DDR]] gameplay on dance pads (On ''UsefulNotes/{{Wii}}'', it's Wii Remote and Nunchuk). While it's somewhat simplistic in terms of difficulty, it does serve as a decent rhythm game. Unfortunately, all the games use [[CoverVersion covers]], which is ironic since Disney develops the games and made the movies. ** The GameBoyAdvance game based on the first movie does have it's own merits too, despite being one half platformer, one half rhythm game.
26th Dec '15 2:08:32 AM annette12
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the second movie Sharpay tries to get Troy to perform "Humuhumunukunukuapua'a" with her, an extravagant Hawaiian themed number about a pineapple princess and a fish prince falling in love. Characteristic of Sharpay, this is a huge production number with backup dancers and Ryan narrating, providing sound effects/fog, and playing the ocean and fish. Much {{Narm}} is involved. It makes just as much sense in context and is never brought up again or acknowledged in the plot. No wonder it's not in the Creator/DisneyChannel airings, but limited to the home video release.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the second movie Sharpay tries to get Troy to perform "Humuhumunukunukuapua'a" with her, an extravagant Hawaiian themed number about a pineapple princess and a fish prince falling in love. Characteristic of Sharpay, this is a huge production number with backup dancers and Ryan narrating, providing sound effects/fog, and playing the ocean and fish. Much {{Narm}} is involved. It makes just as much sense in context and is never brought up again or acknowledged in the plot. No wonder it's not in the Creator/DisneyChannel airings, but limited to the home video release.
1st Dec '15 4:18:33 AM Antwan
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-->'''Gabriella:''' I'm a lot better at saying goodbye than you. I've had a ton of practice.
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-->'''Gabriella:''' --->'''Gabriella:''' I'm a lot better at saying goodbye than you. I've had a ton of practice.

-->'''Gabriella:''' I'm a lot better at saying goodbye * FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: ** The second film has several, the worst one being that hanging out with your high school friends is more important than you. I've had your whole future. Troy is portrayed as the bad guy for missing a ton few ball games because he's trying to get a scholarship and earn money for college. He's redeemed when he throws away chances of practice.impressing the College board so the other wildcats will be friends with him again.

* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: ** The second film has several, the worst one being that hanging out with your high school friends is more important than your whole future. Troy is portrayed as the bad guy for missing a few ball games because he's trying to get a scholarship and earn money for college. He's redeemed when he throws away chances of impressing the College board so the other wildcats will be friends with him again.

%%* HypeBacklash
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%%* HypeBacklash* HypeBacklash: People that didn't enjoy the series were getting sick of all the attention it got, especially when its soundtrack blared in anything that had a speaker.

** Troy falls into this too: Very attractive, great at almost every sport, so good at singing/theater he's put up for a scholarship at Juilliard with zero training and the most popular guy in school. However both of them are somewhat saved by being a BrokenAce, not happy with the pressure on them and aware their popularity vanishes the moment they fail and let people down.
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** Troy falls into this too: Very attractive, great at almost every sport, so good at singing/theater he's put up for a scholarship at Juilliard Julliard with zero training and the most popular guy in school. However both of them are somewhat saved by being a BrokenAce, not happy with the pressure on them and aware their popularity vanishes the moment they fail and let people down.

** Off-screen, but in the first movie a character says brother and sister Ryan and Sharpay played the title roles of ''RomeoAndJuliet''.
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** Off-screen, but in the first movie a character says brother and sister Ryan and Sharpay played the title roles of ''RomeoAndJuliet''.''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet''.

** 'Right Here, Right Now' in HSM 3 as Troy and Gabriella consider their future apart from each other. The cut reprise version - set after they've said goodbye - is even worse.
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** 'Right Here, Right Now' in HSM 3 the third film as Troy and Gabriella consider their future apart from each other. The cut reprise version - set after they've said goodbye - is even worse.

** ''NO, NO, NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. STICK TO THE STUFF YOU KNOOOOOOOOW.''
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** ''NO, ''"NO, NO, NO NO, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. STICK TO THE STUFF YOU KNOOOOOOOOW.''"''
1st Dec '15 4:12:03 AM Antwan
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** Quite a few fans assume that Gabriella has trust and CommitmentIssues about getting close to people. Despite the fact she and Troy adore each other, she's repeatedly thinks he's going to hurt or leave her, and pushes him away in every film because of it. [[note]] In #1 he does genuinely betray her so fair enough, but in #2 she leaves over something that was mostly Sharpay's fault and #3 Troy doesn't do anything at all. [[/note]] Then add in that she has a DisappearedDad, was [[{{IntelligenceEqualsIsolation}} ostracized at her previous schools]] and apparently never had a permanent home (living somewhere longer than a year) and she borders on BrokenBird. --> Gabriella: "I'm a lot better at saying goodbye than you. I've had a ton of practice." ** Likewise, Troy seems less like an uber-popular BigManOnCampus and more of a BrokenAce worn down from years of being East High's golden boy. ''Every'' film has him breaking down over disappointing his Dad or friends, often while Chad and the wildcats sit there criticizing him. His delight at Gabriella liking the [[{{BeneathTheMask}} "real him"]] makes you wonder when he'd last been allowed to just relax. One tumblr post argues him attending Berkeley was less about Gabriella and more about escaping everyone's expectations.
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** Quite a few fans assume that Gabriella has trust and CommitmentIssues about getting close to people. Despite the fact she and Troy adore each other, she's repeatedly thinks he's going to hurt or leave her, and pushes him away in every film because of it. [[note]] In #1 he does genuinely betray her so fair enough, but in #2 she leaves over something that was mostly Sharpay's fault and #3 Troy doesn't do anything at all. [[/note]] Then add in that she has a DisappearedDad, was [[{{IntelligenceEqualsIsolation}} [[IntelligenceEqualsIsolation ostracized at her previous schools]] and apparently never had a permanent home (living somewhere longer than a year) and she borders on BrokenBird. --> Gabriella: "I'm -->'''Gabriella:''' I'm a lot better at saying goodbye than you. I've had a ton of practice." practice. ** Likewise, Troy seems less like an uber-popular BigManOnCampus and more of a BrokenAce worn down from years of being East High's golden boy. ''Every'' film has him breaking down over disappointing his Dad or friends, often while Chad and the wildcats sit there criticizing him. His delight at Gabriella liking the [[{{BeneathTheMask}} [[BeneathTheMask "real him"]] makes you wonder when he'd last been allowed to just relax. One tumblr post argues him attending Berkeley was less about Gabriella and more about escaping everyone's expectations. expectations. * AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Seriously, '''nobody''' thought this would end up being a giant hit that would encapsulate the late 2000s.

** Averted in the second film where Sharpay is a lot more mean-spirited, has no sympathetic justification for stealing Troy away from Gabriella, and treats the rest of the characters like dirt. The third film gives her more understandable motives again, as all she really wants is a decent chance of impressing Juilliard, even if she goes overboard trying to get there.
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** Averted in the second film where Sharpay is a lot more mean-spirited, has no sympathetic justification for stealing Troy away from Gabriella, and treats the rest of the characters like dirt. The third film gives her more understandable motives again, as all she really wants is a decent chance of impressing Juilliard, Julliard, even if she goes overboard trying to get there.
12th Nov '15 5:27:41 AM annette12
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* IncestSubtext: Sharpay and Ryan get this. Singing a duet love song to each other, playing romantic leads together... * KarmaHoudini: Chad and the other Wildcats in the first movie. Unlike Gabriella's friends, we get ''no'' apologies from them about their manipulative {{Jerkass}} behavior, and yet they are EasilyForgiven all the same.
29th Oct '15 8:22:26 PM ChrisDen
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** Because of Ashley Tisdale's loveable LargeHam performance, Sharpay comes across as less of an arrogant bitch and more starstruck and neurotic. Her passion for theatre and her determination to be successful also suggests that Sharpay doesn't do the manipulative things she does out of malice - she just truly wants to be the best at everything (star in the musical, dating the most popular boy in school, etc.) She doesn't dislike the Wildcats in the second movie because of any reason other than "they'll steal my talent show!" Selfish, yes, but by the ending of each movie she's realized her mistakes.
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** Because of Ashley Tisdale's loveable lovable LargeHam performance, Sharpay comes across as less of an arrogant bitch and more starstruck and neurotic. Her passion for theatre and her determination to be successful also suggests that Sharpay doesn't do the manipulative things she does out of malice - she just truly wants to be the best at everything (star in the musical, dating the most popular boy in school, etc.) She doesn't dislike the Wildcats in the second movie because of any reason other than "they'll steal my talent show!" Selfish, yes, but by the ending of each movie she's realized her mistakes.

** Averted in the second film where Sharpay is a lot more mean-spirited, has no sympathetic justification for stealing Troy away from Gabriella, and treats the rest of the characters like dirt. The third film gives her more understandable motives again, as all she really wants is a decent chance of impressing Julliard, even if she goes overboard trying to get there.
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** Averted in the second film where Sharpay is a lot more mean-spirited, has no sympathetic justification for stealing Troy away from Gabriella, and treats the rest of the characters like dirt. The third film gives her more understandable motives again, as all she really wants is a decent chance of impressing Julliard, Juilliard, even if she goes overboard trying to get there.

** Gabriella's Mom is nameless in the films, but is usually Isabella or Maria in fanfic.
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** Gabriella's Mom mom is nameless in the films, but is usually Isabella or Maria in fanfic.

** Troy falls into this too: Very attractive, great at almost every sport, so good at singing/theater he's put up for a scholarship at Julliard with zero training and the most popular guy in school. However both of them are somewhat saved by being a BrokenAce, not happy with the pressure on them and aware their popularity vanishes the moment they fail and let people down.
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** Troy falls into this too: Very attractive, great at almost every sport, so good at singing/theater he's put up for a scholarship at Julliard Juilliard with zero training and the most popular guy in school. However both of them are somewhat saved by being a BrokenAce, not happy with the pressure on them and aware their popularity vanishes the moment they fail and let people down.
9th Oct '15 9:44:50 AM RoseAndHeather
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** "Can I Have This Dance" is absolutely ''lovely''. "It's like catching lightning/the chances of finding/someone like you..."
2nd Sep '15 12:33:02 PM Isaac_Heller
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* KarmaHoudini: Chad and the other Wildcats in the first movie. Unlike Gabriella's friends, we get ''no'' apologies from them about their manipulative {{Jerkass}} behavior, and yet they are EasilyForgiven all the same.
1st Sep '15 10:20:31 PM arnoldmcguire335
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** "Get You Head in the Game".
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** "Get You Your Head in the Game".

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the second movie Sharpay tries to get Troy to perform "Humuhumunukunukuapua'a" with her, an extravagant Hawaiian themed number about a pineapple princess and a fish prince falling in love. Characteristic of Sharpay, this is a huge production number with backup dancers and Ryan narrating, providing sound effects/fog, and playing the ocean and fish. Much {{Narm}} is involved. It makes just as much sense in context and is never brought up again or acknowledged in the plot. No wonder it was cut from the Creator/DisneyChannel airings.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the second movie Sharpay tries to get Troy to perform "Humuhumunukunukuapua'a" with her, an extravagant Hawaiian themed number about a pineapple princess and a fish prince falling in love. Characteristic of Sharpay, this is a huge production number with backup dancers and Ryan narrating, providing sound effects/fog, and playing the ocean and fish. Much {{Narm}} is involved. It makes just as much sense in context and is never brought up again or acknowledged in the plot. No wonder it was cut from it's not in the Creator/DisneyChannel airings.airings, but limited to the home video release.

* HarsherInHindsight: Matt Prokip's scenes in ''[=HSM 3=]'', considering the revelation of his abuse towards his girlfriend [[Series/ModernFamily Sarah Hyland]] and the fact that they met while auditioning for ''[=HSM 3=]'' become much more uncomfortable to watch.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Matt Prokip's Prokop's scenes in ''[=HSM 3=]'', considering the revelation of his abuse towards his girlfriend [[Series/ModernFamily Sarah Hyland]] and the fact that they met while auditioning for ''[=HSM 3=]'' become much more uncomfortable to watch.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Matt Prokip's scenes in ''[=HSM 3=]'', considering ** The GameBoyAdvance game based on the revelation of his abuse towards his girlfriend [[Series/ModernFamily Sarah Hyland]] and the fact that they met while auditioning for ''[=HSM 3=]'' become much more uncomfortable to watch.first movie does have it's own merits too, despite being one half platformer, one half rhythm game.
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