History YMMV / HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys

8th Jul '17 1:18:59 PM Jacob175
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Even people who don't care for the show seem to agree that the title theme is this.



** The episode set in the present day which is all about Kevin Sorbo having gone missing, and features the memorable and hysterical restroom whistling scene.
** There was another one where the cast goes on a teamwork-building retreat hosted by Sunny Day (played by Renee O'Connor; normal role Gabrielle). It leads to a Scooby Doo ending where Sunny is revealed to be B.S. Hollinsfoffer (played by Robert Trebor, normal role Salmoneus), who is 1. a lot taller than Sunny, 2. at least a hundred pounds heavier, and 3. male, and concludes with Ares revealing himself to the cast. On top of that, most of them aren't even all that surprised to learn that Greek god of war is real; one of them even claims "I find the thought rather comforting myself."

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** The episode set in the present day which is all about Kevin Sorbo having gone missing, the show's staff trying to find him while keeping the show from being cancelled and features the memorable and hysterical restroom whistling scene.
** *** There was another one in the same setting where the cast goes staff go on a teamwork-building retreat hosted by Sunny Day (played by Renee O'Connor; normal role Gabrielle). It leads to a Scooby Doo ending where Sunny is revealed to be B.S. Hollinsfoffer (played by Robert Trebor, normal role Salmoneus), who is 1. a lot taller than Sunny, 2. at least a hundred pounds heavier, and 3. male, and concludes with Ares revealing himself to the cast. On top of that, most of them aren't even all that surprised to learn that Greek god of war is real; one of them even claims "I find the thought rather comforting myself."



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Even people who don't care for the show seem to agree that the title theme is this.



* HoYay: Herc and Iolaus aren't quite as explicit as Xena and Gabrielle (not that this is saying much), but have you ''read'' some of the FanFiction or [[OlderThanTheyThink the original myth]]''?

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* HoYay: Herc and Iolaus aren't quite as explicit as Xena and Gabrielle (not that this is saying much), but have you ''read'' some of the FanFiction or [[OlderThanTheyThink the original myth]]''?myth]]?



* SeasonalRot: Season six is considered to be the weakest season, due to a combo of season five being regarded as the high point for the series and Kevin Sorbo wanting to retire the character.



** I don't think it would be a problem afterwords. It would take all the gods including Hera to confidently overthrow Zeus. She was one of the most powerful so without her they did not have the raw power. Her getting thrown into Tartarus would have scared the others into falling back in line. Finally, the gods quarrel with each other as Zeus. Without a strong leader to unite them they could not get their act together to do anything to Hera.

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** I don't think On the other hand, it would be might not have been a problem afterwords. It would take all the gods including Hera to confidently overthrow Zeus. She was one of the most powerful so without her they did not have the raw power. Her getting thrown into Tartarus would have scared the others into falling back in line. Finally, the gods quarrel with each other as Zeus. Without a strong leader to unite them they could not get their act together to do anything to Hera.
15th May '17 2:40:07 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* BrokenAesop: all over the place, but not as many as you would think considering the nature of this show.
** Despite espousing (repeatedly) that everyone should be themselves and beauty is on the inside, Hercules only has love affairs with beautiful women. To his credit, Herc only goes for people he falls in love with (and has rejected the likes of King Thespian's Daughters). Still, it's all off-putting compared to the moral of "Protean Challenge" or such.
** There were a number of episodes where the moral was essentially "war bad" or "murder bad", but fundamentally both Hercules and Iaolus make their living as warriors, and they essentially never actually check a given monster to see if it's sentient before ganking it.
** It helps that, as a camp comedy show, when one writer contradicted another it was usually lampshaded, and there are a number of episodes specifically pointing out the failure of other episodes, such as the introduction of Typhon and the explicit acknowledgement that Echidna's hatred of Hercules is pretty much entirely justified, since he murdered all of her children before the beginning of the series. There is also some evidence that the changes are actual personal growth (he stops hiring on to wars as the first three seasons progress) rather than hypocrisy.
30th Apr '17 1:54:16 PM overman2099
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** In the fifth season, Hercules battled against Gilgamesh who was associated with Dahak, a dark god based off the Persian deity Azi Dahaka. Well over ten years later, the anime Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks featured another fight between different incarnations of Hercules and Gilgamesh, who this time was associated with the dark god Angra Mainyu, a Persian destroyer god who was known as the creator of Azi Dahaka. Also doubles as HarsherInHindsight because in both battles, both incarnations of Gilgamesh end up [[spoiler: killing the people closest to Hercules with Gilgamesh murdering Iolaus in the live action TV show and Gilgamesh slaughtering Illya, the little girl who happened to be Hercules' master]].

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** In the fifth season, Hercules battled against Gilgamesh who was associated with Dahak, a dark god based off the Persian deity Azi Dahaka. Well over ten years later, the anime Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks featured another fight between different incarnations of Hercules and Gilgamesh, who this time was associated with the dark god Angra Mainyu, a Persian destroyer god who was known as the creator of Azi Dahaka. Also doubles as HarsherInHindsight because in both battles, both incarnations of Gilgamesh end up [[spoiler: killing the people closest to Hercules with Gilgamesh murdering Iolaus in the live action TV show and Gilgamesh slaughtering Illya, the little girl who happened to be Hercules' master]].master in the anime]].
30th Apr '17 1:53:41 PM overman2099
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** In the fifth season, Hercules battled against Gilgamesh who was associated with Dahak, a dark god based off the Persian deity Azi Dahaka. Well over ten years later, the anime Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks featured another fight between different incarnations of Hercules and Gilgamesh, who this time was associated with the dark god Angra Mainyu, a Persian destroyer god who was known as the creator of Azi Dahaka.

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** In the fifth season, Hercules battled against Gilgamesh who was associated with Dahak, a dark god based off the Persian deity Azi Dahaka. Well over ten years later, the anime Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks featured another fight between different incarnations of Hercules and Gilgamesh, who this time was associated with the dark god Angra Mainyu, a Persian destroyer god who was known as the creator of Azi Dahaka. Also doubles as HarsherInHindsight because in both battles, both incarnations of Gilgamesh end up [[spoiler: killing the people closest to Hercules with Gilgamesh murdering Iolaus in the live action TV show and Gilgamesh slaughtering Illya, the little girl who happened to be Hercules' master]].
19th Apr '17 9:47:52 PM overman2099
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** In the fifth season, Hercules battled against Gilgamesh who was associated with Dahak, a dark god based off the Persian deity Azi Dahaka. Well over ten years later, the anime FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks featured another fight between different incarnations of Hercules and Gilgamesh, who this time was associated with the dark god Angra Mainyu, a Persian destroyer god who was known as the creator of Azi Dahaka.

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** In the fifth season, Hercules battled against Gilgamesh who was associated with Dahak, a dark god based off the Persian deity Azi Dahaka. Well over ten years later, the anime FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks featured another fight between different incarnations of Hercules and Gilgamesh, who this time was associated with the dark god Angra Mainyu, a Persian destroyer god who was known as the creator of Azi Dahaka.
19th Apr '17 9:46:04 PM overman2099
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** In the fifth season, Hercules battled against Gilgamesh who was associated with Dahak, a dark god based off the Persian deity Azi Dahaka. Well over ten years later, the anime FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks featured another fight between different incarnations of Hercules and Gilgamesh, who this time was associated with the dark god Angra Mainyu, a Persian destroyer god who was known as the creator of Azi Dahaka.
25th Feb '17 12:28:27 PM ACW
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** Darphus from season one's "The Gauntlet" and "Unchained Heart" (as well as an AlternateContinuity in Part 2 of season 4's "Armageddon Now) is the former [[TheDragon second in command]] of Xena before her HeelFaceTurn. Darphus earns Xena's [[EvenEvilHasStandards disfavor]] by sacking innocent villages and slaughtering women and children [[ForTheEvulz for fun.]] When Xena objects, Darphus stages a [[TheStarscream coup on her]] after trying to force her to murder a baby. When Xena survives the gauntlet to leave the army, Darphus tries to have her killed anyways. After being killed by Xena, Darphus is [[BackFromTheDead revived by Ares]] and carries on a brutal campaign of slaughter where he also has care of Ares' monstrous pet. Darphus feeds innocent victims to said monster and shows no hesitation in killing his own men as well just for displeasing him.
** [[NamesToRunAwayFrom Mayhem]] from season 4ís "Prodigal Sister" is the leader of a renegade band of Amazons that routinely terrorizes the countryside in Greece and massacres entire villages, except for the little girls she turns into her weapons. Most Amazons who did raids would go for minimal loss of life, and are appalled by Mayhem's actions. She personally [[WouldHurtAChild blinds Ruun]], (just after killing his parents and kidnapping his sister who she turns into a mindless killing machine) who's only five years old. Fast forward years later, when most of the renegade Amazons have rejoined the Amazonian Nation, Mayhem still leads raids which RapePillageAndBurn entire villages for fun. When confronted by Hercules, she laughs off that her actions will lead to an Amazon Civil War which will be crushed by the outside world. And finally, when confronted on what she did to Ruun and his sister Siri after she is beaten by Hercules she flat out says [[ItsAllAboutMe "So what, I turned her into the greatest Amazonian Warrior!"]]

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** Darphus Darphus, from season one's 1's "The Gauntlet" and "Unchained Heart" (as well as an AlternateContinuity in Part 2 of season 4's "Armageddon Now) Now), is the former [[TheDragon second in command]] of Xena before her HeelFaceTurn. Darphus earns Xena's [[EvenEvilHasStandards disfavor]] by sacking innocent villages and slaughtering women and children [[ForTheEvulz for fun.]] When Xena objects, Darphus stages a [[TheStarscream coup on her]] after trying to force her to murder a baby. When Xena survives the gauntlet to leave the army, Darphus tries to have her killed anyways. After being killed by Xena, Darphus is [[BackFromTheDead revived by Ares]] and carries on a brutal campaign of slaughter where he also has care of Ares' monstrous pet. Darphus feeds innocent victims to said monster and shows no hesitation in killing his own men as well just for displeasing him.
** [[NamesToRunAwayFrom Mayhem]] Mayhem]], from season 4ís 4's "Prodigal Sister" Sister", is the leader of a renegade band of Amazons that routinely terrorizes the countryside in Greece and massacres entire villages, except for the little girls she turns into her weapons. Most Amazons who did raids would go for minimal loss of life, and are appalled by Mayhem's actions. She personally [[WouldHurtAChild blinds Ruun]], (just after killing his parents and kidnapping his sister who she turns into a mindless killing machine) who's only five years old. Fast forward years later, when most of the renegade Amazons have rejoined the Amazonian Nation, Mayhem still leads raids which RapePillageAndBurn entire villages for fun. When confronted by Hercules, she laughs off that her actions will lead to an Amazon Civil War which will be crushed by the outside world. And finally, when confronted on what she did to Ruun and his sister Siri after she is beaten by Hercules she flat out says [[ItsAllAboutMe "So "[[ItsAllAboutMe So what, I turned her into the greatest Amazonian Warrior!"]]Warrior!]]"
30th Dec '16 2:13:45 PM overman2099
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* VillainDecay: Ares gets hit with this the hardest of all out of all the villains. None of his very early appearances were played for laughs and whenever he was involved, his stories usually involved serious matters like recruiting child soldiers or human sacrifice. When he made his physical debut in the show in the Golden Hind trilogy, he was an outright KnightOfCerebus whose very presence took the show to a darker and more tragic level when he took away Hercules' strength, had Herc's new wife Serena killed, framed Hercules for her murder, and nearly took away everything from the demi-god. When they fought for the first time, Hercules struggled against him and only won a very narrow victory because he had a Hind's blood soaked dagger on him which he managed to use to his advantage and force Ares to surrender and submit to his demands. From the fourth season onwards, almost every other time they fight, Ares pretty much gets turned into a punching bag for Hercules and almost every fight they have ends with Ares getting beat down. By the end of the series, Ares' dignity is completely gone and when Hercules and Iolaus make fun of him, the god of war's self-esteem is pretty much crushed and he walks off crying. In Xena, Ares appears to subvert his decay when he convinces Zeus to lift his ban on killing Hercules but nothing ever comes of it because he gets knocked out by Hera before he can even fight Hercules. And if the Hercules-in-modern-times episodes are anything to go by, Ares feuded with Hercules for centuries leading up to the late 90s and still had absolutely nothing to show for it.

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* VillainDecay: Ares gets hit with this the hardest of all out of all the villains. None of his very early appearances were played for laughs and whenever he was involved, his stories usually involved serious matters like recruiting child soldiers or human sacrifice. When he made his physical debut in the show in the Golden Hind trilogy, he was an outright KnightOfCerebus whose very presence took the show to a darker and more tragic level when he took away Hercules' strength, had Herc's new wife Serena killed, framed Hercules for her murder, and nearly took away everything from the demi-god. When they fought for the first time, Hercules struggled against him and only won a very narrow victory because he had a Hind's blood soaked dagger on him which he managed to use to his advantage and force Ares to surrender and submit to his demands. From the fourth season onwards, almost every other time they fight, Ares pretty much gets turned into a punching bag for Hercules and almost every fight they have ends with Ares getting beat down. By the end of the series, Ares' dignity is completely gone and when Hercules and Iolaus make fun of him, the god of war's self-esteem is pretty much crushed and he walks off crying. In Xena, Ares appears to subvert his decay when he convinces Zeus to lift his ban on killing Hercules but nothing ever comes of it because he gets knocked out by Hera before he can even fight Hercules. And if the Hercules-in-modern-times episodes are anything to go by, Ares feuded with Hercules for centuries leading up to the late 90s and still had absolutely nothing to show for it.
30th Dec '16 2:09:57 PM overman2099
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* VillainDecay: Ares gets hit with this the hardest of all out of all the villains. None of his very early appearances were played for laughs and whenever he was involved, his stories usually involved serious matters like recruiting child soldiers or human sacrifice. When he made his physical debut in the show in the Golden Hind trilogy, he was an outright KnightOfCerebus whose very presence took the show to a darker and more tragic level when he took away Hercules' strength, had Herc's new wife Serena killed, framed Hercules for her murder, and nearly took away everything from the demi-god. When they fought for the first time, Hercules struggled against him and only won a very narrow victory because he had a Hind's blood soaked dagger on him which he managed to use to his advantage and force Ares to surrender and submit to his demands. From the fourth season onwards, almost every other time they fight, Ares pretty much gets turned into a punching bag for Hercules and almost every fight they have ends with Ares getting beat down. By the end of the series, Ares' dignity is completely gone and when Hercules and Iolaus make fun of him, the god of war's self-esteem is pretty much crushed and he walks off crying. In Xena, Ares appears to subvert his decay when he convinces Zeus to lift his ban on killing Hercules but nothing ever comes of it because he gets knocked out by Hera before he can even fight Hercules. And if the Hercules-in-modern-times episodes are anything to go by, Ares feuded with Hercules for centuries leading up to the late 90s and still had absolutely nothing to show for it.
19th Nov '16 10:30:18 PM Scifimaster92
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: The disclaimer included in "A Star to Guide Them" (see below) becomes a lot less funny knowing that Kevin Sorbo has since become [[TheFundamentalist a religious fundamentalist]] [[HolierThanThou on par with Pat Robertson]].

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: The disclaimer included in "A Star to Guide Them" (see below) becomes a lot less funny knowing that Kevin Sorbo has since become [[TheFundamentalist a religious fundamentalist]] zealot]] [[HolierThanThou on par with Pat Robertson]].
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