History YMMV / HelluvaBossS1E1MurderFamily

** Further to the above, Stolas making [[SexualExtortion the full moon deal]] with Blitzo becomes much sadder after "The Circus" reveals that Blitzo's father sold him to be Stolas' playmate for a day even though he didn't want to be forced into spending time with a royal he had never met before. It creates a sense that the [[HistoryRepeats unhealthy relationship between the two in the present is repeating]] - the lower class Blitzo is having his body and time sold off and doesn't have an option to refuse due to the vast difference in their economic and social statuses. As a child he guilt tripped into it to help his mother, as an adult he needs the book to keep his business running. This casts further complications on [[BrokenBase Blitzo's own feelings towards the full moon deal]] - in the real world the deal would be considered SexualExtortion, but does the class structure of Hell mean that Blitzo has become deadened to being treated like property by the rich and powerful?

* BrokenBase: The scene between Stolas and Blitzo regarding the full moon deal is one that is steeped in heavy debate. Detractors argue that the deal comes off as SexualExtortion as Blitzo needs Stolas' grimoire to keep his business afloat, not to mention that Blitzo was currently running for his life from Martha and hastily agrees to the deal to get Stolas off the phone, then looks repulsed when Stolas immediately launches into one of his signature ClusterFBomb rants. The fact that Stolas should have heard the gunshots and Blitzo tells him repeatedly it's a bad time and to get to the point does not help, as it comes off as Stolas not caring Blitzo is in danger and leveraging that to get him to agree. The power dynamic is also worrying because Stolas the demon prince could easily kill Blitzo the lowly imp if he wants and though the viewers know he wouldn't do that, does Blitzo believe it's just safer to keep appeasing him? Defenders insist that this is not the case, arguing that Blitzo was simply using his body to manipulate Stolas to let him use the book (even though Blitz never actively pursues Stolas sexually outside of their one night stand until the deal forces him to), or that Blitzo could have bartered with Stolas - he certainly couldn't have ''at that particular time'', but it's true that after the mission ended there could possibly have been a better negotiation left offscreen because it would be hard to make funny. Debates around Blitzo's perspective on the deal can also get uncomfortably close to the NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization - that if he doesn't complain more about the deal that means he secretly wants to keep it going, even though it's an established aspect of Blitzo's character that he behaves in a hypersexual manner as a coping mechanism [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex to hide his internal self-hatred]], which Stolas is arguably making worse due to his objectification of Blitzo, especially in this episode and ''Loo Loo Land''. This becomes HarsherInHindsight after the release of ''The Circus'' where Blitzo's father sold him to be Stolas' playmate for a day, so Blitzo is likely also inured to being treated like the property of the rich - or in other words, what Stolas does would still be considered rape in the real world even if Blitzo's upbringing means he doesn't realize the full extent of how he's been wronged.

* BrokenBase: The scene between Stolas and Blitzo regarding the full moon deal is one that is steeped in heavy debate. Detractors argue that the deal comes off as SexualExtortion, as Blitzo needs Stolas' grimoire to keep his business afloat, not to mention that Blitzo was currently running for his life from Martha and hastily agrees to the deal to get Stolas off the phone, then looks repulsed when Stolas immediately launches into one of his signature ClusterFBomb rants over the phone. The fact that Stolas possibly knew he was in danger did not help matters, since he should have heard the gunshots and Blitzo tells him repeatedly it's a bad time and to get to the point. The power dynamic is also worrying, because Stolas the demon prince is entitled to kill Blitzo the lowly imp if he wants, and the viewers can see that he would never (Stolas doesn't appear to be ''trying'' to be manipulative, whatever the outcome), but does ''Blitzo'' know him well enough to be secure in that? Defenders insist that this is not the case, arguing that Blitzo was simply using his body to manipulate Stolas to let him use the book (even though Blitz never actively pursues Stolas sexually outside of their one night stand until the deal), or that Blitzo could have bartered with Stolas - he certainly couldn't have ''at that particular time'', but it's true that after the mission ended there could possibly have been a better negotiation left offscreen because it would be hard to make funny. Debates around Blitzo's perspective can also get uncomfortably close to the NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization - that if he doesn't complain more about the deal that means he secretly wants to keep it going, even though it's an established aspect of Blitzo's character that he behaves in a hypersexual manner as a coping mechanism [[InferioritySuperiorityComplex to hide his internal self-hatred]], which Stolas is arguably making worse due to his objectification of Blitzo, especially in this episode and ''Loo Loo Land''.

* BrokenBase: The scene between Stolas and Blitzo regarding the full moon deal is one that is steeped in heavy debate. Detractors argue that the deal comes off as SexualExtortion, as Blitzo needs Stolas' grimoire to keep his business afloat, not to mention that Blitzo was currently running for his life from Martha and hastily agrees to the deal to get Stolas off the phone, then looks repulsed when Stolas immediately launches into one of his signature ClusterFBomb rants over the phone. The fact that Stolas possibly knew he was in danger did not help matters, since he should have heard the gunshots and Blitzo tells him repeatedly it's a bad time and to get to the point. The power dynamic is also worrying, because Stolas the demon prince is entitled to kill Blitzo the lowly imp if he wants, and the viewers can see that he would never (Stolas doesn't appear to be ''trying'' to be manipulative, whatever the outcome), but does ''Blitzo'' know him well enough to be secure in that? Defenders insist that this is not the case, arguing that Blitzo was simply using his body to manipulate Stolas to let him use the book (even though Blitz never actively pursues Stolas sexually outside of their one night stand until the deal), or that Blitzo could have bartered with Stolas - he certainly couldn't have ''at that particular time'', but it's true that after the mission ended there could possibly have been a better negotiation left offscreen because it would be hard to make funny.

* BrokenBase: The scene between Stolas and Blitzo regarding the full moon deal is one that is steeped in heavy debate. Detractors argue that the deal comes off as sexual coercion, as Blitzo needs Stolas' grimoire to keep his business afloat, not to mention that Blitzo was currently running for his life from Martha and hastily agrees to the deal to get Stolas off the phone, then looks repulsed when Stolas immediately launches into one of his signature ClusterFBomb rants over the phone (the fact that Stolas possibly knew he was in danger did not help matters, since he should have heard the gunshots and Blitzo tells him repeatedly it's a bad time and to get to the point). Defenders insist that this is not the case, arguing that Blitzo was simply using his body to manipulate Stolas to let him use the book (even though Blitz never actively pursues Stolas sexually outside of their one night stand until the deal), or that Blitzo could have bartered with Stolas.

* BrokenBase: The scene between Stolas and Blitzo regarding the full moon deal is one that is steeped in heavy debate. Detractors argue that the deal comes off as sexual coercion, as Blitzo needs Stolas' grimoire to keep his business afloat, not to mention that Blitzo was currently running for his life from Martha and hastily agrees to the deal to get Stolas off the phone, then looks repulsed when Stolas immediately launches into one of his signature ClusterFBomb rants over the phone (the fact that Stolas possibly knew he was in danger did not help matters, since he should have heard the gunshots and Blitzo tells him repeatedly it's a bad time and to get to the point). Defenders insist that this is not the case, arguing that Blitzo was simply using his body to manipulate Stolas to let him use the book, or that Blitzo could have bartered with Stolas.

* BrokenBase: The scene between Stolas and Blitzo regarding the full moon deal is one that is steeped in heavy debate. Detractors argue that the deal comes off as sexual coercion, as Blitzo needs Stolas' grimoire to keep his business afloat, not to mention that Blitzo was currently running for his life from Martha, meaning he might had not been in the proper mindset when he agreed to the deal (the fact that Stolas possibly knew he was in danger did not help matters). Defenders insist that this is not the case, arguing that Blitzo was simply using his body to manipulate Stolas to let him use the book, or that Blitzo could have bartered with Stolas.

** Moxxie's initial unwillingness to kill Martha takes a sadder and much darker turn after "Exes and Oohs" reveals he was forced to take part in the mob business by [[AbusiveParents his father]] (and heavily implies that his own mother was killed because of it). Similarly, Moxxie's reasoning if they have to kill a shitty dad or a mob family as understandable, since "Exes and Oohs" reveals he has issues with his mafioso father.

** Did the cops kill [[CannibalClan Martha's family]] out of [[TheBadGuysAreCops general police]] [[PoliceBrutality overkill]], out of outrage and horror at what they did, or to cover up that they somehow missed that the "local hero" was secretly a cannibalistic serial killer? [[TakeAThirdOption Possibly some combination of the three]].

** The scene where Martha attempts to burn Blitzo and Millie alive in a bonfire, only for it to backfire as Blitzo points out that Earth fire doesn't hurt them, becomes less funny after "Oops", where it's revealed that Blitzo's white facial scar was caused by a childhood hell fire accident that also horribly crippled his friend Fizzarolli and killed his mother.

** Did the cops kill [[CannibalClan Martha's family]] out of [[TheBadGuysAreCops general police]] [[PoliceBrutality overkill]], out of outrage and horror at what they did, or to cover up that they somehow missed that the "local hero" was secretly a cannibal? [[TakeAThirdOption Possibly some combination of the three]].

** Moxxie's initial unwillingness to kill Martha takes a sadder and much darker turn after "Exes and Oohs" reveals he was forced to take part in the mob business by [[AbusiveParents his father]] (and heavily implies that his own mother was killed cause of it). Similarly, Moxxie's reasoning if they have to kill a shitty dad or a mob family as understandable, since "Exes and Oohs" reveals he has issues with his mafioso father.

* HarsherInHindsight: Moxxie's initial unwillingness to kill Martha takes a sadder and much darker turn after "Exes and Oohs" reveals he was forced to take part in the mob business by [[AbusiveParents his father]] (and heavily implies that his own mother was killed cause of it).
** Similarily Moxxie's reasoning if they have to kill a shitty dad or a mob family as understandable, since "Exes and Oohs" reveals he has issues with his mafioso father.

* HarsherInHindsight: Moxxie's initial unwillingness to kill Martha takes a sadder and much darker turn after "Exes and Oohs" reveals he was forced to drown his own mother by [[AbusiveParents his father]].

* HarsherInHindsight: Moxxie's unwillingness to kill Martha (even after what he learns about her and her family) takes a sadder turn after "Exes and Oohs" reveals he was forced to drown his own mother by [[AbusiveParents his father]].

* CrossesTheLineTwice:
** The entire montage of Martha being referred as a hero by various different people, including Mrs. Mayberry's students, given that the latter explained that Martha had slept with her husband, and miraculously survive her murder-suicide attempt. The montage is made even funnier with the knowledge that Martha and her family are revealed to be a clan of unhinged, cannibalistic devil-worshipping serial killers, making her '''FAR''' from being a hero.

* FanficFuel: What do Martha and her family look like in Hell?

** Was Martha the same after her near-death as she was before? Virtually nothing of her is seen before she gets shot by Mrs. Mayberry, and severe head injuries have been known to change peoples' personalities.

** When Blito threatened to "fuck" Moxxie and Millie if the former ever screwed up again, how serious was he? For that matter, did he mean it in a specifically sexual way, or in a more general sense?

** At the end of Episode 1, did the cops kill [[CannibalClan Martha's family]] out of [[TheBadGuysAreCops general police]] [[PoliceBrutality overkill]], or more specifically to cover up that they somehow missed that the "local hero" was secretly a cannibal? [[TakeAThirdOption Possibly both]].

* FanficFuel: What do Martha and her family [[spoiler:look like in Hell]]?