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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Much of the reason the original run didn't last long was that neither Hawk nor Dove came across as very likeable, in large part due to CreativeDifferences between Steve Skeates and Steve Ditko. For the most part, the two leads ended up being less like honest portrayals of real-world issues and more like negative caricatures, with Hawk being an aggressive asshole and Dove being an ineffectual wimp.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Much of the reason the original run didn't last long was that neither Hawk nor Dove came across as very likeable, in large part due to CreativeDifferences between Steve Skeates and Steve Ditko. For the most part, the two leads ended up being less like honest portrayals of real-world issues and more like negative caricatures, with Hawk being an aggressive asshole and Dove being an ineffectual wimp. Towards the end, the brothers did get CharacterDevelopment with Hank becoming more understanding of Don’s perspective and Don becoming the brains of the duo with investigative abilities. Unfortunately, it wasn’t enough to save the series.
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** Holly Granger (as the third person to bear the title of "Hawk" got this reception by fans, though it didn't help matters that writers had no clue what kind of personality she had, or bothered to flesh out a personality or backstory for her to begin with. Being retconned in as "only child" Dawn Granger's sister and an usurper of Hank Hall's Hawk powers only rubbed the salt in further for her hatedom. They rejoiced as Hank Hall was eventually brought back to life while Holly was killed off, and she appears to no longer exist at all in the New 52 continuity.
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** Holly Granger (as the third person to bear the title of "Hawk" "Hawk") got this reception by fans, though it didn't help matters that writers had no clue what kind of personality she had, or bothered to flesh out a personality or backstory for her to begin with. Being retconned in as "only child" Dawn Granger's sister and an usurper of Hank Hall's Hawk powers only rubbed the salt in further for her hatedom. They rejoiced as Hank Hall was eventually brought back to life while Holly was killed off, and she appears to no longer exist at all in the New 52 continuity.
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**Holly Granger (as the third person to bear the title of "Hawk" got this reception by fans, though it didn't help matters that writers had no clue what kind of personality she had, or bothered to flesh out a personality or backstory for her to begin with. Being retconned in as "only child" Dawn Granger's sister and an usurper of Hank Hall's Hawk powers only rubbed the salt in further for her hatedom. They rejoiced as Hank Hall was eventually brought back to life while Holly was killed off, and she appears to no longer exist at all in the New 52 continuity.
** Before Holly, there was the second duo to call themselves Hawk and Dove. These two had very little connection to the originals or Dawn Granger, and were gotten rid of and never spoken of again.
**Holly Granger (as the third person to bear the title of "Hawk" got this reception by fans, though it didn't help matters that writers had no clue what kind of personality she had, or bothered to flesh out a personality or backstory for her to begin with. Being retconned in as "only child" Dawn Granger's sister and an usurper of Hank Hall's Hawk powers only rubbed the salt in further for her hatedom. They rejoiced as Hank Hall was eventually brought back to life while Holly was killed off, and she appears to no longer exist at all in the New 52 continuity.
** Before Holly, there was the second duo to call themselves Hawk and Dove. These two had very little connection to the originals or Dawn Granger, and were gotten rid of and never spoken of again.
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Hawk and Dove have never been unusually popular for their in-universe relevance. If anything, I'd say they're pretty unpopular; they rarely last long in terms of books.
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* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: Despite being only B-list they do become popular over the years with Don Hall staying dead for 30 years which makes him one of the few superheroes that stays dead for real while his brother and his successor end up appearing on ''Series/{{Titans 2018}}'' which is impressive considering the other Titans that appears on it are far more popular than them.
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* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: Despite being only B-list they do become popular over the years with Don Hall staying dead for 30 years which makes him one UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Much of the few superheroes reason the original run didn't last long was that stays dead for real while his brother neither Hawk nor Dove came across as very likeable, in large part due to CreativeDifferences between Steve Skeates and his successor end up appearing on ''Series/{{Titans 2018}}'' which is impressive considering Steve Ditko. For the other Titans that appears on it are far most part, the two leads ended up being less like honest portrayals of real-world issues and more popular than them.like negative caricatures, with Hawk being an aggressive asshole and Dove being an ineffectual wimp.
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* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: Despite being only B-list they do become popular over the years with Don Hall staying dead for 30 years which makes him one of the few superheroes that stays dead for real while his brother and his successor end up appearing on ''Series/{{Titans2018}}'' which is impressive considering the other Titans that appears on it are far more popular than them.
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* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: Despite being only B-list they do become popular over the years with Don Hall staying dead for 30 years which makes him one of the few superheroes that stays dead for real while his brother and his successor end up appearing on ''Series/{{Titans2018}}'' ''Series/{{Titans 2018}}'' which is impressive considering the other Titans that appears on it are far more popular than them.
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* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: Despite being only B-list they do become popular over the years with Don Hall staying dead for 30 years which makes him one of the few superheroes that stays dead for real while his brother and his successor end up appearing on ''Titans2018'' ''Series/{{Titans2018}}'' which is impressive considering the other Titans that appears on it are far more popular than them.
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* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: Despite being only B-list they do become popular over the years with Don Hall staying dead for 30 years which makes him one of the few superheroes that stays dead for real while his brother and his successor end up appearing on Titans ''Titans2018'' which is impressive considering the other Titans that appears on it are far more popular than them.
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* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: Despite being only B-list they do become popular over the years with Don Hall staying dead for 30 years which makes him one of the few superheroes that stays dead for real while his brother and his successor end up appearing on Titans which is impressive considering the other Titans that appears on it are far more popular than them.
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* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: Despite being only B-list they do become popular over the years with Don Hall staying dead for 30 years which makes him one of the few superheroes that stays dead for real while his brother and his successor end up appearing on {{Titans2018 TV show}} Titans which is impressive considering the Titans that appears on it are far more popular than them.
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* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: Despite being only B-list they do become popular over the years with Don Hall staying dead for 30 years which makes him one of the few superheroes that stays dead for real while his brother and his successor end up appearing on Titans2018 {{Titans2018 TV show show}} which is impressive considering the Titans that appears on it are far more popular than them.
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* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: Despite being only B-list they do become popular over the years with Don Hall staying dead for 30 years which makes him one of the few superheroes that stays dead for real while his brother and his successor end up appearing on {{Titans}} Titans2018 TV show which is impressive considering the Titans that appears on it are far more popular than them.
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* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: Despite being only B-list they do become popular over the years with Don Hall staying dead for 30 years which makes him one of the few superheroes that stays dead for real while his brother and his successor end up appearing on {{Titans2018}} {{Titans}} TV show which is impressive considering the Titans that appears on it are far more popular than them.
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