History YMMV / HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince

17th Sep '17 7:54:29 PM kquinn0830
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* MisaimedFandom: Some fans, even some editors on the Wiki, tend to sympathize with Merope too much claiming her using a LovePotion on Tom Riddle was justified; even going so far as to claim Tom Riddle was the bad one, pointing to a few scenes where he's described as a snob (this is ignoring his PetTheDog moments like taking care of his elderly parents), and him leaving a pregnant Merope and never even bothering to find out what happened to his child, never mind the fact that he was mind-controlled and magically raped, and didn't consent to the relationship in the first place. [[DoubleStandard This would not exist if it were Tom who did this to Merope, mind you.]]

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* MisaimedFandom: Some fans, even some editors on the Wiki, tend to sympathize with Merope too much claiming her using a LovePotion on Tom Riddle was justified; even going so far as to claim Tom Riddle was the bad one, pointing to a few scenes where he's described as a snob (this is ignoring his PetTheDog moments like taking care of his elderly parents), and him leaving a pregnant Merope and never even bothering to find out what happened to his child, never mind the fact that he was mind-controlled and magically raped, and didn't consent to the relationship in the first place. [[DoubleStandard This would not exist if it were Tom who did this to Merope, mind you.]] This was actually more widespread when the book came out, but after sexual consent became a hot button issue and society began to recognize the [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale double standard of how men being raped by women were treated]], Riddle has garnered more sympathy.
14th Sep '17 3:31:53 PM fearlessnikki
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: This book contains two subplots where Love Potions are used in situations that are ''definitely not'' DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale, in a possible response to criticism that said Potions are basically G-rated date rape drugs marketed to Potterverse witches (for added contrast, Fred and George do exactly that in this book and it's just as creepy as it sounds). In the present day, Romilda Vane is seen as a disturbed stalker after she tries to send Harry a box of chocolates that were spiked with Love Potion; and in the backstory, [[spoiler:Merope Gaunt, Voldemort's mother, kept Tom Riddle under various enchantments, including Love Potion, so he wouldn't leave her]].

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This book contains two subplots where Love Potions are used in situations that are ''definitely not'' DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale, in a possible response to criticism that said Potions are basically G-rated date rape drugs marketed to Potterverse witches (for added contrast, Fred and George do exactly that in this book and it's just as creepy as it sounds). In the present day, Romilda Vane is seen as a disturbed stalker after she tries to send Harry a box of chocolates that were spiked with Love Potion; and in the backstory, [[spoiler:Merope Gaunt, Voldemort's mother, kept Tom Riddle under various enchantments, including Love Potion, so he wouldn't leave her]].her]].
** The scene where Hermione attacks Ron with the birds is not very popular, due to DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale (had Ron attacked Hermione like that, it'd be a MoralEventHorizon). In the film, Ron is not hurt when the birds attack.
** A big complaint about Harry falling for Ginny is that her CharacterDevelopment happens mainly offscreen. The film shows Ginny to be a supportive presence to Harry, featuring her a lot more in scenes and giving them a chance to develop a relationship on screen (especially after barely interacting in previous films).



* HeReallyCanAct: This film is the point where Michael Gambon is acknowledged to finally set aside his angry take on Dumbledore for a TruerToTheText portrayal.

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This film is the point where Michael Gambon is acknowledged to finally set aside his angry take on Dumbledore for a TruerToTheText portrayal.portrayal.
** Tom Felton was viewed as rather weak beforehand - mainly due to Malfoy's status as a JerkJock who says a few mean things per film. Now with a full arc and chance to show his talents, he was met with lots of praise.
** Bonnie Wright too, though this was more to do with her being OutOfFocus in the other films. She won many people over with Ginny's expanded screen time.
5th Sep '17 4:50:50 PM Scabbard
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** Harry Potter's actions in the book are also seen by many to be incredibly dubious. There's the fact that Harry uses the Prince's book to more or less cheat at Potions, which in real life would amount to plagiarism and would immediately nullify his grades were a real-life student used similar methods.

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** Harry Potter's actions in the book are also seen by many to be incredibly dubious. There's the fact that Harry uses the Prince's book to more or less cheat at Potions, which in real life would amount to plagiarism and would immediately nullify his grades were a real-life student used similar methods.grades.
4th Sep '17 12:30:00 PM Scabbard
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** Harry has always had a ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight but in ''Half-Blood Prince'', he indulges in rule-breaking for the sheer heck of it. He cheats at Potions and commits what in real-life would be academic plagiarism, he uses spells on random targets (including Filch's cat), [[spoiler:unleashes Sectumsempra on Draco despite knowing nothing about the spell (Although, in his defense, he did seem horrified at the result)]]. There's also the fact that he gets to be Quidditch captain despite being suspended off the winning team the previous year out of his poor temperament and yet doesn't fully defend Ron (the Keeper who more or less won the final the previous year and came through on a big game), and once again doesn't take his leadership responsibilities seriously, misses the final game again due to detention and the team wins without him again.

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** Harry has always had a ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight but in ''Half-Blood Prince'', he indulges in rule-breaking for the sheer heck of it. He cheats at Potions and commits what in real-life would be academic plagiarism, he uses spells on random targets (including Filch's cat), [[spoiler:unleashes Sectumsempra on Draco despite knowing nothing about the spell (Although, (although, in his defense, he did seem was horrified and surprised at the result)]]. There's also the fact that he gets to be Quidditch captain despite being suspended off the winning team the previous year out of his poor temperament and yet doesn't fully defend Ron (the Keeper who more or less won the final the previous year and came through on a big game), and once again doesn't take his leadership responsibilities seriously, misses the final game again due to detention and the team wins without him again.
29th Aug '17 1:50:36 AM NhazUl
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** Lavender writing "R+L" on a foggy train window is hilarious to fans of [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire another fantasy series where this love equation appears]]. One would think that Lavender spoiling this is the real reason Hermione glares when she sees it...
28th Aug '17 4:15:48 PM NhazUl
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* HeReallyCanAct: This film is the point where Michael Gambon is acknowledged to finally set aside his angry take on Dumbledore for a TruerToTheText portrayal.
12th Aug '17 10:32:51 AM fearlessnikki
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Slughorn is a big fat pedophile.
** [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation Harry]]... [[FoeYay Potter]]?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Slughorn %%Slughorn is a big fat pedophile.
** %%** [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation Harry]]... [[FoeYay Potter]]?



** Merope dying after her son is born. Harry wonders why she didn't try to stay alive for the sake of her child. Perhaps she came to resent the baby growing in her womb? As a remnant of the man she had loved who rejected her, perhaps she had no plans to raise the child at all since she actively went into an orphanage to give birth.



** The Burrow burning scene. Some invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks, while others argue that it's necessary for the narrative.



*** There were also a lot of complaints from ''non''-shippers who were bothered by the book's focus on romance. Probably at least in part a HypeBacklash due to the massive focus those subplots got in the eyes of the rest of the fandom, but even so, it's a little unreasonable that they expected a book about 16-year-olds at a boarding school ''not'' to discuss dating and romance.
*** Still others dislike the pairing simply because [[FelonyMisdemeanor Harry nailed his]] [[AndThatsTerrible best friend's little sister]].

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*** ** There were also a lot of complaints from ''non''-shippers who were bothered by the book's focus on romance. Probably at least in part a HypeBacklash due to the massive focus those subplots got in the eyes of the rest of the fandom, but even so, it's a little unreasonable that they expected a book about 16-year-olds at a boarding school ''not'' to discuss dating and romance.
*** ** Still others dislike the pairing simply because [[FelonyMisdemeanor Harry nailed his]] [[AndThatsTerrible best friend's little sister]].


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** The trailer containing shots of the Burrow burning provoked a lot of complaints about an AdaptationInducedPlotHole for the seventh book - as the opening part of it takes place there. They seemed to ignore the six month difference between the events.
12th Aug '17 4:14:21 AM 793ws
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** Harry has always had a ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight but in ''Half-Blood Prince'', he indulges in rule-breaking for the sheer heck of it. He cheats at Potions and commits what in real-life would be academic plagiarism, he uses spells on random targets (including Filch's cat), [[spoiler:unleashes Sectumsempra on Draco despite knowing nothing about the spell]]. There's also the fact that he gets to be Quidditch captain despite being suspended off the winning team the previous year out of his poor temperament and yet doesn't fully defend Ron (the Keeper who more or less won the final the previous year and came through on a big game), and once again doesn't take his leadership responsibilities seriously, misses the final game again due to detention and the team wins without him again.

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** Harry has always had a ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight but in ''Half-Blood Prince'', he indulges in rule-breaking for the sheer heck of it. He cheats at Potions and commits what in real-life would be academic plagiarism, he uses spells on random targets (including Filch's cat), [[spoiler:unleashes Sectumsempra on Draco despite knowing nothing about the spell]].spell (Although, in his defense, he did seem horrified at the result)]]. There's also the fact that he gets to be Quidditch captain despite being suspended off the winning team the previous year out of his poor temperament and yet doesn't fully defend Ron (the Keeper who more or less won the final the previous year and came through on a big game), and once again doesn't take his leadership responsibilities seriously, misses the final game again due to detention and the team wins without him again.
30th Jul '17 3:19:28 PM JoeCB1991
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** The above examples were nothing compared to the outrage among fans when Warner Bros. decided to delay the release of the film version from November 2008 to July 2009, especially after it was confirmed the film was completed and the announcement was made only three before the original release date. The reason for this? Because ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' [[https://web.archive.org/web/20120515220341/http://insidemovies.ew.com/2008/08/14/news-flash-harr/ was such a big success for the studio that year, the company didn't want ''Half Blood Prince'' to add to the already massive 2008 box office haul and make 2009 look like a down year.]]

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** The above examples were nothing compared to the outrage among fans when Warner Bros. decided to delay the release of the film version from November 2008 to July 2009, especially after it was confirmed the film was completed and the announcement was made only three months before the original release date. The reason for this? Because ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' [[https://web.archive.org/web/20120515220341/http://insidemovies.ew.com/2008/08/14/news-flash-harr/ was such a big success for the studio that year, the company didn't want ''Half Blood Prince'' to add to the already massive 2008 box office haul and make 2009 look like a down year.]]
28th Jul '17 5:33:36 PM rjd1922
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** Harry has always had a ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight but in ''Half-Blood Prince'', he indulges in rule-breaking for the sheer heck of it. He cheats at Potions and commits what in real-life would be academic plagiarism, he uses spells on random targets (including Filch's cat), [[spoiler:unleashes Sectumsempra on Draco despite knowing nothing about the spell]]. There's also the fact that he gets to be Quidditch captain despite being suspended off the winning team the previous year out of his poor temperament and yet doesn't fully defend Ron (the Keeper who more or less won the final the previous year and came through on a big game), and once again doesn't take his leadership responsibilities seriously, gets suspended again and the team wins without him again.

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** Harry has always had a ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight but in ''Half-Blood Prince'', he indulges in rule-breaking for the sheer heck of it. He cheats at Potions and commits what in real-life would be academic plagiarism, he uses spells on random targets (including Filch's cat), [[spoiler:unleashes Sectumsempra on Draco despite knowing nothing about the spell]]. There's also the fact that he gets to be Quidditch captain despite being suspended off the winning team the previous year out of his poor temperament and yet doesn't fully defend Ron (the Keeper who more or less won the final the previous year and came through on a big game), and once again doesn't take his leadership responsibilities seriously, gets suspended misses the final game again due to detention and the team wins without him again.
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