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* It's never explained why the Superman of the Justice League of Vampires (and it is supposed to be Superman, as that's how everyone refers to him) is wearing Ultraman's logo. Other than a mix-up between artist and writer, the only explanation I can think of is vampire Clark deciding on a name-change to Undeadman that no one else is aware of or willing to go along with.
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** The purported goal of the series is to give Wally something of a role in the DC Universe after he was first DemotedToExtra after his comeback and then caused a truckload of bad things to happen in ''Heroes in Crisis''. Wally is stated to not only be the fastest being in ''existence'', but the only one capable of protecting the multiverse. Given the book's chilly reception, it's up for debate whether or not that goal has actually been met.
** The long-awaited return of [[spoiler: Irey and Jai]], given that fans were initially upset at their exclusion from the ''Rebirth'' line and then how they were handled in ''Heroes in Crisis'' [[note]]they were talked about as if they were dead, which flew in direct opposition to what was established[[/note]] after their possible return was mentioned in "Flash War".
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* It's never explained why the Superman of the Justice League of Vampires (and it is supposed to be Superman, as that's how everyone refers to him) is wearing Ultraman's logo. Other than a mix-up between artist and writer, the only explanation I can think of is vampire Clark deciding on a name-change to Undeadman that no one else is aware of or willing to go along with.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite being, ultimately, about Wally finding his kids and restoring his family, Linda Park, his former wife, is ''trivial'' to the story. He briefly meets an alternate universe version of her with the powers of Godspeed, but otherwise Linda's entire role and characterisation is to be, at the beginning, sympathetic towards his stay in prison as he pushes her away, then later have her memories of him restored and reunited with their kids. The reason this feels like such a waste is that typically in these sort of stories in the past, Linda played an active and key role in her and Wally's journey, from actively pursuing leads to fighting Kobra head on, to making a DealWithTheDevil herself to try and save Wally, to searching the multiverse lost with him. While she's not part of ''every'' last little thing Wally does, the fact she's so uninvolved in a story that's so directly tied to Wally's lost family feels like a missed opportunity, especially as, while her memory is restored, it's via a ''literal'' DeusExMachina, and not her actively working with Wally and rediscovering it herself. It says something that the initial ''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'' story, "The Return of Wally West", had Linda as a DamselInDistress and ''still'' gave her more agency.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite being, ultimately, about Wally finding his kids and restoring his family, Linda Park, his former wife, is ''trivial'' to the story. He briefly meets an alternate universe version of her her, known as Lightspeed, with the powers of Godspeed, but otherwise Linda's entire role and characterisation is to be, at the beginning, sympathetic towards his stay in prison as he pushes her away, then later have her memories of him restored and reunited with their kids. The reason this feels like such a waste is that typically in these sort of stories in the past, Linda played an active and key role in her and Wally's journey, from actively pursuing leads to fighting Kobra head on, to making a DealWithTheDevil herself to try and save Wally, to searching the multiverse lost with him. While she's not part of ''every'' last little thing Wally does, the fact she's so uninvolved in a story that's so directly tied to Wally's lost family feels like a missed opportunity, especially as, while her memory is restored, it's via a ''literal'' DeusExMachina, and not her actively working with Wally and rediscovering it herself. It says something that the initial ''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'' story, "The Return of Wally West", had Linda as a DamselInDistress and ''still'' gave her more agency.
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** The purported goal of the series is to give Wally something of a role in the DC Universe after he was DemotedToExtra and then dark actions in ''Heroes in Crisis''. Wally is stated to not only be the fastest being in ''existence'', but the only one capable of protecting the multiverse. Given the book's chilly reception, it's up for debate whether or not that goal has actually been met.

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** The purported goal of the series is to give Wally something of a role in the DC Universe after he was first DemotedToExtra after his comeback and then dark actions caused a truckload of bad things to happen in ''Heroes in Crisis''. Wally is stated to not only be the fastest being in ''existence'', but the only one capable of protecting the multiverse. Given the book's chilly reception, it's up for debate whether or not that goal has actually been met.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The first issue got hit with this to a degree, as much of it focuses on Wally recapping his actions during ''Heroes in Crisis'' and being suicidal.


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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The first issue got hit with this to a degree, as much of it focuses on Wally recapping his actions during ''Heroes in Crisis'' and being suicidal.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite being, ultimately, about Wally finding his kids and restoring his family, Linda Park-West, his wife, is ''trivial'' to the story. He briefly meets an alternate universe version of her with the powers of Godspeed, but otherwise Linda's entire role and characterisation is to be, at the beginning, sympathetic towards his stay in prison as he pushes her away, then later have her memories of him restored and reunited with their kids. The reason this feels like such a waste is that typically in these sort of stories in the past, Linda played an active and key role in her and Wally's journey, from actively pursuing leads to fighting Kobra head on, to making a DealWithTheDevil herself to try and save Wally, to searching the multiverse lost with him. While she's not part of ''every'' last little thing Wally does, the fact she's so uninvolved in a story that's so directly tied to Wally's lost family feels like a missed opportunity, especially as, while her memory is restored, its via a ''literal'' DeusExMachina, and not her actively working with Wally and rediscovering it herself. It's saying something that the initial Rebirth Titans story, ''The Return of Wally West'', had Linda as a DamselInDistress and ''still'' gave her more agency.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite being, ultimately, about Wally finding his kids and restoring his family, Linda Park-West, Park, his former wife, is ''trivial'' to the story. He briefly meets an alternate universe version of her with the powers of Godspeed, but otherwise Linda's entire role and characterisation is to be, at the beginning, sympathetic towards his stay in prison as he pushes her away, then later have her memories of him restored and reunited with their kids. The reason this feels like such a waste is that typically in these sort of stories in the past, Linda played an active and key role in her and Wally's journey, from actively pursuing leads to fighting Kobra head on, to making a DealWithTheDevil herself to try and save Wally, to searching the multiverse lost with him. While she's not part of ''every'' last little thing Wally does, the fact she's so uninvolved in a story that's so directly tied to Wally's lost family feels like a missed opportunity, especially as, while her memory is restored, its it's via a ''literal'' DeusExMachina, and not her actively working with Wally and rediscovering it herself. It's saying It says something that the initial Rebirth Titans ''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'' story, ''The "The Return of Wally West'', West", had Linda as a DamselInDistress and ''still'' gave her more agency.agency.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: It was a follow-up to ''Heroes in Crisis'' written by a writer known for a history of sexual harassment and an artist who's work is highly contested. Notably, according to sales figures put out by Diamond, since ''DC Rebirth'', any book staring Wally West has sold extremely well, roughly around 50K+ units[[note]]''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'' for instance sold such high numbers during the first few arcs featuring Wally, before he left the book and the sales dropped; ''ComicBook/TheFlashRebirth'' would get a sales bump to those numbers for its first annual, ''Perfect Storm'' and ''Flash War'' storylines, each one featuring Wally prominently, if not putting more focus on him than Barry, only to drop when he left the book for HIC; [[/note]]. ''Flash Forward'' barely cracked 20K, with many people explicitly citing Scott Lobdell's involvement as a deal breaker.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: It was a follow-up to ''Heroes in Crisis'' written by a writer known for a history of sexual harassment and disliked work who enjoys nepotism and an artist who's whose work is highly contested.contested at best and whose work on ''The Flash'' in particular is highly criticised. Notably, according to sales figures put out by Diamond, since ''DC Rebirth'', any book staring Wally West has sold extremely well, roughly around 50K+ units[[note]]''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'' for instance sold such high numbers during the first few arcs featuring Wally, before he left the book and the sales dropped; ''ComicBook/TheFlashRebirth'' would get a sales bump to those numbers for its first annual, ''Perfect Storm'' and ''Flash War'' storylines, each one featuring Wally prominently, if not putting more focus on him than Barry, only to drop when he left the book for HIC; [[/note]]. ''Flash Forward'' barely cracked 20K, with many people explicitly citing Scott Lobdell's involvement as a deal breaker.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite being, ultimately, about Wally finding his kids and restoring his family, Linda Park-West, his wife, is ''trivial'' to the story. He briefly meets an alternate universe version of her with the powers of Godspeed, but otherwise Linda's entire role and characterisation is to be, at the beginning, sympathetic towards his stay in prison as he pushes her away, then later have her memories of him restored and reunited with their kids. The reason this feels like such a waste is that typically in these sort of stories in the past, Linda played an active and key role in her and Wally's journey, from actively pursuing leads to fighting Kobra head on, to making a DealWithTheDevil herself to try and save Wally, to searching the multiverse lost with him. While she's not part of ''every'' last little thing Wally does, the fact she's so uninvolved in a story that's so directly tied to Wally's lost family feels like a missed opportunity, especially as, while her memory is restored, its via a ''literal'' DeusExMachina, and not her actively working with Wally and rediscovering it herself. Its saying something that the initial Rebirth Titans story, ''The Return of Wally West'', had Linda as a DamselInDistress and ''still'' gave her more agency.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite being, ultimately, about Wally finding his kids and restoring his family, Linda Park-West, his wife, is ''trivial'' to the story. He briefly meets an alternate universe version of her with the powers of Godspeed, but otherwise Linda's entire role and characterisation is to be, at the beginning, sympathetic towards his stay in prison as he pushes her away, then later have her memories of him restored and reunited with their kids. The reason this feels like such a waste is that typically in these sort of stories in the past, Linda played an active and key role in her and Wally's journey, from actively pursuing leads to fighting Kobra head on, to making a DealWithTheDevil herself to try and save Wally, to searching the multiverse lost with him. While she's not part of ''every'' last little thing Wally does, the fact she's so uninvolved in a story that's so directly tied to Wally's lost family feels like a missed opportunity, especially as, while her memory is restored, its via a ''literal'' DeusExMachina, and not her actively working with Wally and rediscovering it herself. Its It's saying something that the initial Rebirth Titans story, ''The Return of Wally West'', had Linda as a DamselInDistress and ''still'' gave her more agency.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite being, ultimately, about Wally finding his kids and restoring his family, Linda Park-West, his wife, is ''trivial'' to the story. He briefly meets an alternate universe version of her with the powers of Godspeed, but otherwise Linda's entire role and characterisation is to be, at the beginning, sympathetic towards his stay in prison as he pushes her away, then later have her memories of him restored and reunited with their kids. The reason this feels like such a waste is that typically in these sort of stories in the past, Linda played an active and key role in her and Wally's journey, from actively pursuing leads to fighting Kobra head on, to making a DealWithTheDevil herself to try and save Wally, to searching the multiverse lost with him. While she's not part of ''every'' last little thing Wally does, the fact she's so uninvolved in a story that's so directly tied to Wally's lost family feels like a missed opportunity, especially as, while her memory is restored, its via a ''literal'' DeusExMachina, and not her actively working with Wally and rediscovering it herself. Its saying something that the initial Rebirth story, ''The Return of Wally West'', had Linda as a DamselInDistress and ''still'' gave her more agency.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite being, ultimately, about Wally finding his kids and restoring his family, Linda Park-West, his wife, is ''trivial'' to the story. He briefly meets an alternate universe version of her with the powers of Godspeed, but otherwise Linda's entire role and characterisation is to be, at the beginning, sympathetic towards his stay in prison as he pushes her away, then later have her memories of him restored and reunited with their kids. The reason this feels like such a waste is that typically in these sort of stories in the past, Linda played an active and key role in her and Wally's journey, from actively pursuing leads to fighting Kobra head on, to making a DealWithTheDevil herself to try and save Wally, to searching the multiverse lost with him. While she's not part of ''every'' last little thing Wally does, the fact she's so uninvolved in a story that's so directly tied to Wally's lost family feels like a missed opportunity, especially as, while her memory is restored, its via a ''literal'' DeusExMachina, and not her actively working with Wally and rediscovering it herself. Its saying something that the initial Rebirth Titans story, ''The Return of Wally West'', had Linda as a DamselInDistress and ''still'' gave her more agency.
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* AwesomeArt: While the story itself has been mixed-at-best and Brett Boothe's art is, as always, a matter of personal taste, the covers of the book are ''stunning''.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: The climax of the story is thus: [[spoiler:Wally's depression has lead to a dark universe 'clogging' the Dark Multiverse and making it overflow and infect the 'positive' multiverse. Ultimately, so long as Wally ''exists'' and has these dark feelings, this will continue, so the solution is Wally sits on the Morbius Chair where he will become a God, but in doing so will lose his sense of self, something that he and the space god guiding him consider effectively suicide. So, if you're suffering from severe depression and trauma, and your negativity is harmfully effecting others, the best solution is to kill yourself so nobody can be harmed by it. Its fortunate that this is almost deliberately a ComicBookDeath ''designed'' to be easily undone in the event its building towards, as otherwise the message would be really fucking disgusting.]]
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AudienceAlienatingPremise: It was a follow-up to ''Heroes in Crisis'' written by a writer known for a history of sexual harassment and an artist who's work is highly contested. Notably, according to sales figures put out by Diamond, since ''DC Rebirth'', any book staring Wally West has sold extremely well, roughly around 50K+ units[[note]]''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'' for instance sold such high numbers during the first few arcs featuring Wally, before he left the book and the sales dropped; ''ComicBook/TheFlashRebirth'' would get a sales bump to those numbers for its first annual, ''Perfect Storm'' and ''Flash War'' storylines, each one featuring Wally prominently, if not putting more focus on him than Barry, only to drop when he left the book for HIC; [[/note]]. ''Flash Forward'' barely cracked 20K, with many people explicitly citing Scott Lobdell's involvement as a deal breaker.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: It was a follow-up to ''Heroes in Crisis'' written by a writer known for a history of sexual harassment and an artist who's work is highly contested. Notably, according to sales figures put out by Diamond, since ''DC Rebirth'', any book staring Wally West has sold extremely well, roughly around 50K+ units[[note]]''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'' for instance sold such high numbers during the first few arcs featuring Wally, before he left the book and the sales dropped; ''ComicBook/TheFlashRebirth'' would get a sales bump to those numbers for its first annual, ''Perfect Storm'' and ''Flash War'' storylines, each one featuring Wally prominently, if not putting more focus on him than Barry, only to drop when he left the book for HIC; [[/note]]. ''Flash Forward'' barely cracked 20K, with many people explicitly citing Scott Lobdell's involvement as a deal breaker.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite being, ultimately, about Wally finding his kids and restoring his family, Linda Park-West, his wife, is ''trivial'' to the story. He briefly meets an alternate universe version of her with the powers of Godspeed, but otherwise Linda's entire role and characterisation is to be, at the beginning, sympathetic towards his stay in prison as he pushes her away, then later have her memories of him restored and reunited with their kids. The reason this feels like such a waste is that typically in these sort of stories in the past, Linda played an active and key role in her and Wally's journey, from actively pursuing leads to fighting Kobra head on, to making a DealWithTheDevil herself to try and save Wally, to searching the multiverse lost with him. While she's not part of ''every'' last little thing Wally does, the fact she's so uninvolved in a story that's so directly tied to Wally's lost family feels like a missed opportunity, especially as, while her memory is restored, its via a ''literal'' DuesExMachina, and not her actively working with Wally and rediscovering it herself. Its saying something that the initial Rebirth story, ''The Return of Wally West'', had Linda as a DamselInDistress and ''still'' gave her more agency.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite being, ultimately, about Wally finding his kids and restoring his family, Linda Park-West, his wife, is ''trivial'' to the story. He briefly meets an alternate universe version of her with the powers of Godspeed, but otherwise Linda's entire role and characterisation is to be, at the beginning, sympathetic towards his stay in prison as he pushes her away, then later have her memories of him restored and reunited with their kids. The reason this feels like such a waste is that typically in these sort of stories in the past, Linda played an active and key role in her and Wally's journey, from actively pursuing leads to fighting Kobra head on, to making a DealWithTheDevil herself to try and save Wally, to searching the multiverse lost with him. While she's not part of ''every'' last little thing Wally does, the fact she's so uninvolved in a story that's so directly tied to Wally's lost family feels like a missed opportunity, especially as, while her memory is restored, its via a ''literal'' DuesExMachina, DeusExMachina, and not her actively working with Wally and rediscovering it herself. Its saying something that the initial Rebirth story, ''The Return of Wally West'', had Linda as a DamselInDistress and ''still'' gave her more agency.
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AudienceAlienatingPremise: It was a follow-up to ''Heroes in Crisis'' written by a writer known for a history of sexual harassment and an artist who's work is highly contested. Notably, according to sales figures put out by Diamond, since ''DC Rebirth'', any book staring Wally West has sold extremely well, roughly around 50K+ units[[note]]''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'' for instance sold such high numbers during the first few arcs featuring Wally, before he left the book and the sales dropped; ''ComicBook/TheFlashRebirth'' would get a sales bump to those numbers for its first annual, ''Perfect Storm'' and ''Flash War'' storylines, each one featuring Wally prominently, if not putting more focus on him than Barry, only to drop when he left the book for HIC; [[/note]]. ''Flash Forward'' barely cracked 20K, with many people explicitly citing Scott Lobdell's involvement as a deal breaker.
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* AwesomeArt: While the story itself has been mixed-at-best and Brett Boothe's art is, as always, a matter of personal taste, the covers of the book are ''stunning''.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: The climax of the story is thus: [[spoiler:Wally's depression has lead to a dark universe 'clogging' the Dark Multiverse and making it overflow and infect the 'positive' multiverse. Ultimately, so long as Wally ''exists'' and has these dark feelings, this will continue, so the solution is Wally sits on the Morbius Chair where he will become a God, but in doing so will lose his sense of self, something that he and the space god guiding him consider effectively suicide. So, if you're suffering from severe depression and trauma, and your negativity is harmfully effecting others, the best solution is to kill yourself so nobody can be harmed by it. Its fortunate that this is almost deliberately a ComicBookDeath ''designed'' to be easily undone in the event its building towards, as otherwise the message would be really fucking disgusting.]]



* OvershadowedByControversy: [[https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/06/26/sexual-harassment-comics-industry-again/ Scott Lobdell's history of sexual harassment and racism]] hasn't settled well with Flash fans who want to find out what happens to Wally, but don't want to support his behavior. Fueling the controversy is a vocal minority of Lobdell fans who ''defend'' sexual harassment.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: [[https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/06/26/sexual-harassment-comics-industry-again/ Scott Lobdell's history of sexual harassment and racism]] hasn't settled well with Flash fans who want to find out what happens to Wally, but don't want to support his behavior. Fueling the controversy is a vocal minority of Lobdell fans who ''defend'' sexual harassment.harassment.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite being, ultimately, about Wally finding his kids and restoring his family, Linda Park-West, his wife, is ''trivial'' to the story. He briefly meets an alternate universe version of her with the powers of Godspeed, but otherwise Linda's entire role and characterisation is to be, at the beginning, sympathetic towards his stay in prison as he pushes her away, then later have her memories of him restored and reunited with their kids. The reason this feels like such a waste is that typically in these sort of stories in the past, Linda played an active and key role in her and Wally's journey, from actively pursuing leads to fighting Kobra head on, to making a DealWithTheDevil herself to try and save Wally, to searching the multiverse lost with him. While she's not part of ''every'' last little thing Wally does, the fact she's so uninvolved in a story that's so directly tied to Wally's lost family feels like a missed opportunity, especially as, while her memory is restored, its via a ''literal'' DuesExMachina, and not her actively working with Wally and rediscovering it herself. Its saying something that the initial Rebirth story, ''The Return of Wally West'', had Linda as a DamselInDistress and ''still'' gave her more agency.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise:
** The fact that it's being written by Creator/ScottLobdell, considered by many to be DC's worst writer on top of being a repeat sexual harasser, did ''not'' sit well with fans at all. The fact that Lobdell has been responsible for mishandling many of DC's legacy characters in the past (including ''Comicbook/TeenTitans'', ''Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'', and ''Comicbook/{{Nightwing}})'' has not gone unnoticed. Many would have preferred Tom King to follow-up on Wally's arc after ''Heroes in Crisis''.
** Lobdell referring to Linda Park as "Linda Parker" also has people wary, especially given the racist comments he's made against Asians in the past, as well as his own admission that he doesn't like to research characters he writes.
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** The fact that it's being written by Creator/ScottLobdell, considered by many to be DC's worst writer on top of being a repeat sexual harasser, did ''not'' sit well with fans at all. The fact that Lobdell has been responsible for mishandling many of DC's legacy characters in the past (including Comicbook/TeenTitans, Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws, and Comicbook/{{Nightwing}}) has not gone unnoticed. Many would have preferred Tom King to follow-up on Wally's arc after ''Heroes in Crisis''.

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** The fact that it's being written by Creator/ScottLobdell, considered by many to be DC's worst writer on top of being a repeat sexual harasser, did ''not'' sit well with fans at all. The fact that Lobdell has been responsible for mishandling many of DC's legacy characters in the past (including Comicbook/TeenTitans, Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws, ''Comicbook/TeenTitans'', ''Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws'', and Comicbook/{{Nightwing}}) ''Comicbook/{{Nightwing}})'' has not gone unnoticed. Many would have preferred Tom King to follow-up on Wally's arc after ''Heroes in Crisis''.



* HarsherInHindsight: The reveal of [[spoiler: Irey and Jai West still existing]] in the second issue makes Barry Allen and Iris West's actions following the end of ''ComicBook/FlashWar'' hard to stomach, when the two consented to having Wally sent to Sanctuary to make him get over [[spoiler: the disappearance of his children]], which eventually led to Wally's breakdown as a result of Sanctuary's incredibly inept therapy methods. Having proof [[spoiler: the twins have been stuck in the Dark Multiverse and thus it ''was'' possible for them to be found]] makes Barry and Iris come across as incredibly selfish for how they decided it was better for Wally to give up instead of actually helping him [[spoiler: look for Irey and Jai]], and how so much unpleasantness could've been avoided if not for them writing off Wally's concerns as a lost cause.
* HilariousInHindsight: Issue 6's climax of [[spoiler:Wally sitting on the Moebius Chair and acquiring the powers of Dr. Manhattan, essentially becoming a god,]] becomes pretty funny when Dan DiDio, then co-publisher of DC and infamous for hating legacy characters like Wally [[https://www.bleedingcool.com/2020/02/21/scoop-dan-didio-no-longer-publisher-of-dc-comics/ was let go of DC shortly afterwards.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: The reveal of [[spoiler: Irey [[spoiler:Irey and Jai West still existing]] in the second issue makes Barry Allen and Iris West's actions following the end of ''ComicBook/FlashWar'' hard to stomach, when the two consented to having Wally sent to Sanctuary to make him get over [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the disappearance of his children]], which eventually led to Wally's breakdown as a result of Sanctuary's incredibly inept therapy methods. Having proof [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the twins have been stuck in the Dark Multiverse and thus it ''was'' possible for them to be found]] makes Barry and Iris come across as incredibly selfish for how they decided it was better for Wally to give up instead of actually helping him [[spoiler: look for Irey and Jai]], and how so much unpleasantness could've been avoided if not for them writing off Wally's concerns as a lost cause.
* HilariousInHindsight: Issue 6's climax of [[spoiler:Wally sitting on the Moebius Mobius Chair and acquiring the powers of Dr. Manhattan, essentially becoming a god,]] becomes pretty funny when Dan DiDio, [=Dan DiDio=], then co-publisher of DC and infamous for hating legacy characters like Wally Wally, [[https://www.bleedingcool.com/2020/02/21/scoop-dan-didio-no-longer-publisher-of-dc-comics/ was let go of DC shortly afterwards.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: Issue 6's climax of [[spoiler:Wally sitting on the Moebius Chair and acquiring the powers of Dr. Manhattan, essentially becoming a god,]] becomes pretty funny when Dan DiDio, then co-publisher of DC and infamous for hating legacy characters like Wally [[https://www.bleedingcool.com/2020/02/21/scoop-dan-didio-no-longer-publisher-of-dc-comics/ was let go of DC shortly afterwards.]]
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** There is very little doubt that the point of the series is to give Wally something of a role in the DC Universe after he was DemotedToExtra and then dark actions in ''Heroes in Crisis''. Wally is stated to not only be the fastest being in ''existence'', but the only one capable of protecting the multiverse. After the first issue, Wally himself is written more akin to his pre-Flashpoint self, happy during heroics and using his speed and being fun.

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** There is very little doubt that the point The purported goal of the series is to give Wally something of a role in the DC Universe after he was DemotedToExtra and then dark actions in ''Heroes in Crisis''. Wally is stated to not only be the fastest being in ''existence'', but the only one capable of protecting the multiverse. After Given the first issue, Wally himself is written more akin to his pre-Flashpoint self, happy during heroics and using his speed and being fun.book's chilly reception, it's up for debate whether or not that goal has actually been met.

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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The fact that it's being written by Creator/ScottLobdell, considered by many to be DC's worst writer on top of being a repeat sexual harasser, did ''not'' sit well with fans at all. The fact that Lobdell has been responsible for mishandling many of DC's legacy characters in the past (including Comicbook/TeenTitans, Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws, and Comicbook/{{Nightwing}}) has not gone unnoticed. Many would have preferred Tom King to follow-up on Wally's arc after ''Heroes in Crisis''.

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The fact that it's being written by Creator/ScottLobdell, considered by many to be DC's worst writer on top of being a repeat sexual harasser, did ''not'' sit well with fans at all. The fact that Lobdell has been responsible for mishandling many of DC's legacy characters in the past (including Comicbook/TeenTitans, Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws, and Comicbook/{{Nightwing}}) has not gone unnoticed. Many would have preferred Tom King to follow-up on Wally's arc after ''Heroes in Crisis''.Crisis''.
** Lobdell referring to Linda Park as "Linda Parker" also has people wary, especially given the racist comments he's made against Asians in the past, as well as his own admission that he doesn't like to research characters he writes.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The reveal of [[spoiler: Irey and Jai West still existing]] in the second issue makes Barry Allen and Iris West's actions following the end of ''ComicBook/FlashWar'' hard to stomach, when the two consented to having Wally sent to Sanctuary to make him get over [[spoiler: the disappearance of his children]], which eventually led to Wally's breakdown as a result of Sanctuary's incredibly inept therapy methods. Having proof [[spoiler: the twins have been stuck in the Dark Multiverse and thus it ''was'' possible for them to be found]] makes Barry and Iris come across as incredibly selfish for how they decided it was better for Wally to give up instead of actually helping him [[spoiler: look for Irey and Jai]], and how so much unpleasantness could've been avoided if not for them writing off Wally's concerns as a lost cause.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The reveal of [[spoiler: Irey and Jai West still existing]] in the second issue makes Barry Allen and Iris West's actions following the end of ''ComicBook/FlashWar'' hard to stomach, when the two consented to having Wally sent to Sanctuary to make him get over [[spoiler: the disappearance of his children]], which eventually led to Wally's breakdown as a result of Sanctuary's incredibly inept therapy methods. Having proof [[spoiler: the twins have been stuck in the Dark Multiverse and thus it ''was'' possible for them to be found]] makes Barry and Iris come across as incredibly selfish for how they decided it was better for Wally to give up instead of actually helping him [[spoiler: look for Irey and Jai]], and how so much unpleasantness could've been avoided if not for them writing off Wally's concerns as a lost cause.cause.
* OvershadowedByControversy: [[https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/06/26/sexual-harassment-comics-industry-again/ Scott Lobdell's history of sexual harassment and racism]] hasn't settled well with Flash fans who want to find out what happens to Wally, but don't want to support his behavior. Fueling the controversy is a vocal minority of Lobdell fans who ''defend'' sexual harassment.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: The fact that it's being written by Creator/ScottLobdell, considered by many to be DC's worst writer on top of being a repeat sexual harasser, did ''not'' sit well with fans at all. The fact that Lobdell has been responsible for mishandling many of DC's legacy characters in the past (including Comicbook/TeenTitans, Comicbook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws, and Comicbook/{{Nightwing}}) has not gone unnoticed. Many would have preferred Tom King to follow-up on Wally's arc after ''Heroes in Crisis''.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The first issue got hit with this to a degree, as much of it focuses on Wally recapping his actions during ''Heroes in Crisis'' and being suicidal.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The first issue got hit with this to a degree, as much of it focuses on Wally recapping his actions during ''Heroes in Crisis'' and being suicidal.suicidal.
* HarsherInHindsight: The reveal of [[spoiler: Irey and Jai West still existing]] in the second issue makes Barry Allen and Iris West's actions following the end of ''ComicBook/FlashWar'' hard to stomach, when the two consented to having Wally sent to Sanctuary to make him get over [[spoiler: the disappearance of his children]], which eventually led to Wally's breakdown as a result of Sanctuary's incredibly inept therapy methods. Having proof [[spoiler: the twins have been stuck in the Dark Multiverse and thus it ''was'' possible for them to be found]] makes Barry and Iris come across as incredibly selfish for how they decided it was better for Wally to give up instead of actually helping him [[spoiler: look for Irey and Jai]], and how so much unpleasantness could've been avoided if not for them writing off Wally's concerns as a lost cause.
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* SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced: The Flash fandom was very happy with the [[spoiler: return of Jai and Irey]] after so long, given what they mean to Wally.
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** There is very little doubt that the point of the series is to give Wally something of a role in the DC Universe after his DemotionToExtra and then dark actions in ''Heroes in Crisis''. Wally is stated to not only be the fastest being in ''existence'', but the only one capable of protecting the multiverse. After the first issue, Wally himself is written more akin to his pre-Flashpoint self, happy during heroics and using his speed and being fun.

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** There is very little doubt that the point of the series is to give Wally something of a role in the DC Universe after his DemotionToExtra he was DemotedToExtra and then dark actions in ''Heroes in Crisis''. Wally is stated to not only be the fastest being in ''existence'', but the only one capable of protecting the multiverse. After the first issue, Wally himself is written more akin to his pre-Flashpoint self, happy during heroics and using his speed and being fun.
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* SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced: The Flash fandom was very happy with the [[spoiler: return of Jai and Irey]] after so long, given what they mean to Wally.

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* SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced: The Flash fandom was very happy with the [[spoiler: return of Jai and Irey]] after so long, given what they mean to Wally.Wally.
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** There is very little doubt that the point of the series is to give Wally something of a role in the DC Universe after his DemotionToExtra and then dark actions in ''Heroes in Crisis''. Wally is stated to not only be the fastest being in ''existence'', but the only one capable of protecting the multiverse. After the first issue, Wally himself is written more akin to his pre-Flashpoint self, happy during heroics and using his speed and being fun.
** The long-awaited return of [[spoiler: Irey and Jai]], given that fans were initially upset at their exclusion from the ''Rebirth'' line and then how they were handled in ''Heroes in Crisis'' [[note]]they were talked about as if they were dead, which flew in direct opposition to what was established[[/note]] after their possible return was mentioned in "Flash War".
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The first issue got hit with this to a degree, as much of it focuses on Wally recapping his actions during ''Heroes in Crisis'' and being suicidal.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: The Flash fandom was very happy with the [[spoiler: return of Jai and Irey]] after so long, given what they mean to Wally.

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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced: The Flash fandom was very happy with the [[spoiler: return of Jai and Irey]] after so long, given what they mean to Wally.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced: The Flash fandom was very happy with the [[spoiler: return of Jai and Irey]] after so long, given what they mean to Wally.

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