History YMMV / FistOfTheNorthStar

14th Sep '17 12:35:52 PM SeptimusHeap
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: There has been a fair share of rather mediocre ''Hokuto no Ken'' video games throughout the years, most notably the very first Famicom game, a ''Kung-Fu Master''-style side-scroller. Entering a door to proceed requires the player to press up and both buttons simultaneously, but anyone who doesn't know this will get stuck walking in an infinite loop on the very first level. It was also quite a difficult game, with knives and enemies flying into the screen all the time and no full life recovery between stages. Despite the fact that it was quite a rubbish game by any objective standard, it managed to sell quite a lot of copies in Japan due to its timing (it came out at the height of the manga's popularity and during the Famicom boom). More recent games, like the [=2D=] fighting game by ArcSystemWorks and ''VideoGame/FistOfTheNorthStarKensRage'' are decent games in their own right. Even the [=3D action game=] that was published by Bandai for the [=PS1=] in 2000 was well made.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: There has been a fair share of rather mediocre ''Hokuto no Ken'' video games throughout the years, most notably the very first Famicom game, a ''Kung-Fu Master''-style side-scroller. Entering a door to proceed requires the player to press up and both buttons simultaneously, but anyone who doesn't know this will get stuck walking in an infinite loop on the very first level. It was also quite a difficult game, with knives and enemies flying into the screen all the time and no full life recovery between stages. Despite the fact that it was quite a rubbish game by any objective standard, it managed to sell quite a lot of copies in Japan due to its timing (it came out at the height of the manga's popularity and during the Famicom boom). More recent games, like the [=2D=] fighting game by ArcSystemWorks Creator/ArcSystemWorks and ''VideoGame/FistOfTheNorthStarKensRage'' are decent games in their own right. Even the [=3D action game=] that was published by Bandai for the [=PS1=] in 2000 was well made.
13th Sep '17 9:51:33 AM superkeijikun
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** Due to not securing the ''FOTNS'' license for Western gamers, the UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis game was retooled into a new game known as ''Last Battle''. The characters were all renamed (Kenshiro became "Aarzak", for instance) and most of them recolored, along with the blood being removed, but by and large, the plot is largely the same. The OpeningScroll even spoils most of it!

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** Due to not securing the ''FOTNS'' license for Western gamers, the UsefulNotes/SegaGenesis game was retooled into a new game known as ''Last Battle''. The characters were all renamed (Kenshiro became "Aarzak", for instance) and most of them recolored, along with the blood being removed, removed (except for boss battles, where it was recolored green or purple), but by and large, the plot is largely the same. The OpeningScroll even spoils most of it!


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* MostWonderfulSound:
** Kenshiro's {{Kiai}}: "ATATATATATATATATA WATTA!"
** From the 80's anime, whenever the effects of ''Hokuto Shinken'' kick in for the dumb bastard who crossed Kenshiro, it is accompanied by a distinct high-pitched electric crackling.
23rd Aug '17 2:35:41 AM king3000
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Thouzer. Sure, his backstory is pretty sad, since he accidently killed his beloved master. However the fact that he kidnapped kids and putting them in cruel slave labor really kills off any sympathy for him.
** This trope is very likely the reason why his backstory was cut out in Raoh Gaiden Junai-hen, because the director felt his tragic backstory did not excuse Thouzer's actions, and it's easy to see why.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Thouzer. Sure, his backstory is pretty sad, since he accidently killed his beloved master. However the fact that he kidnapped kids and putting put them in cruel slave labor really kills off any sympathy for him.
** This trope is very likely the reason why his backstory was cut out in Raoh Gaiden Junai-hen, because the director possibly felt his that Thouzer's tragic backstory did not excuse Thouzer's his actions, and it's easy not hard to see why.
20th Aug '17 3:04:59 PM king3000
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Thouzer. Sure, his backstory is pretty sad, since he accidently killed his beloved master. However the fact that he kidnapped kids and putting them in cruel slave labor really kills off any sympathy for him.
** This trope is very likely the reason why his backstory was cut out in Raoh Gaiden Junai-hen, because the director felt his tragic backstory did not excuse Thouzer's actions, and it's easy to see why.
2nd Apr '17 6:38:02 AM PrincessGwen
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* {{Narm}}: Kenshiro's skills doesn't always translate well to live-action. The lack of ThemeMusicPowerUp makes it even more narmier.

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* {{Narm}}: Kenshiro's skills doesn't always translate well to live-action. The lack of ThemeMusicPowerUp makes it even more narmier.
4th Feb '17 11:18:21 AM Morgenthaler
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* HilariousInHindsight: Raoh's ambition to do battle with God becomes somewhat ironic once you realize that his [[KenjiUtsumi Japanese voice actor]] went on to voice [[Franchise/DragonBall Shenron]], the ''servant'' of God. Even more, [[ManOfAThousandVoices his voice actor]] uses '''the exact same voice''' for both characters.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Raoh's ambition to do battle with God becomes somewhat ironic once you realize that his [[KenjiUtsumi [[Creator/KenjiUtsumi Japanese voice actor]] went on to voice [[Franchise/DragonBall Shenron]], the ''servant'' of God. Even more, [[ManOfAThousandVoices his voice actor]] uses '''the exact same voice''' for both characters.
15th Jan '17 11:14:59 PM DustSnitch
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* EscapistCharacter: Kenshiro, seriously; this guy is almost certifiably the epitome of this trope: [[{{Hunk}} Hot, muscular guy]] with lots of {{Shirtless Scene}}s? Check. Awesome fighting skills? Check. A major {{Badass}} good guy that gets to [[OneManArmy mow down villains by the hundreds]] while still being considered a borderline {{messia|nicArchetype}}h? Check. Known to most of his enemies as "the Man with the Seven Scars", and mentioning this nickname is sometimes enough to make the mooks run in terror? Check. Widely praised as "the savior of the post-apocalyptic world" by many people without even ''trying'' to gain their respect? Check. Typically portrayed as utterly invincible? Check. Performs such feats include bending open prison bars, wielding a steel I-beam like a broomstick, stopping the charge of a 500 kg man with six fingers, and plugging a burst dam by carrying a huge chunk of a mountain to it? Check. Always leaves the most powerful of bad guys cowering in terror? Check. [[ImplacableMan Can relentlessly, inexorably pursue all forms of evil and oppression without anything slowing him down]]? DOUBLE CHECK. Yes, you totally want to be him. And if not: YouAreAlreadyDead!

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* EscapistCharacter: Kenshiro, seriously; this guy is almost certifiably the epitome of this trope: [[{{Hunk}} Hot, muscular guy]] with lots of {{Shirtless Scene}}s? Check. Awesome fighting skills? Check. A major {{Badass}} badass good guy that gets to [[OneManArmy mow down villains by the hundreds]] while still being considered a borderline {{messia|nicArchetype}}h? Check. Known to most of his enemies as "the Man with the Seven Scars", and mentioning this nickname is sometimes enough to make the mooks run in terror? Check. Widely praised as "the savior of the post-apocalyptic world" by many people without even ''trying'' to gain their respect? Check. Typically portrayed as utterly invincible? Check. Performs such feats include bending open prison bars, wielding a steel I-beam like a broomstick, stopping the charge of a 500 kg man with six fingers, and plugging a burst dam by carrying a huge chunk of a mountain to it? Check. Always leaves the most powerful of bad guys cowering in terror? Check. [[ImplacableMan Can relentlessly, inexorably pursue all forms of evil and oppression without anything slowing him down]]? DOUBLE CHECK. Yes, you totally want to be him. And if not: YouAreAlreadyDead!



** A lot of people consider Raoh more {{Badass}} than Kenshiro... even though it was a plot point from his introductory flashback that he wasn't. TheFilmOfTheSeries went with "[[AscendedFanon Sure, Why Not?]]" and had Raoh win their climactic duel. This seems to be especially apparent in the final mission of his [[ForWantOfANail Dream Mode]] in ''VideoGame/FistOfTheNorthStarKensRage'', where he takes on every single character in the game except for those who, by that point, would be dead, [[OneManArmy and wins]]. Even his ''horse'' is a memetic badass in and of itself.

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** A lot of people consider Raoh more {{Badass}} badass than Kenshiro... even though it was a plot point from his introductory flashback that he wasn't. TheFilmOfTheSeries went with "[[AscendedFanon Sure, Why Not?]]" and had Raoh win their climactic duel. This seems to be especially apparent in the final mission of his [[ForWantOfANail Dream Mode]] in ''VideoGame/FistOfTheNorthStarKensRage'', where he takes on every single character in the game except for those who, by that point, would be dead, [[OneManArmy and wins]]. Even his ''horse'' is a memetic badass in and of itself.
22nd Dec '16 12:57:39 PM Morgenthaler
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* AwesomeEgo: [[SmugSuper Raoh]], {{S|mugSnake}}outher, [[InsufferableGenius Amiba]] and [[ManipulativeBastard Jagi]] all have this in spades. Despite the fact that each of them is a brutal sadist with a rather large InferioritySuperiorityComplex on the side, they all display enough {{Badass}}ery to make them some of the most popular characters in the series, with Raoh arguably being ''the'' most popular character in the series.

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* AwesomeEgo: [[SmugSuper Raoh]], {{S|mugSnake}}outher, [[InsufferableGenius Amiba]] and [[ManipulativeBastard Jagi]] all have this in spades. Despite the fact that each of them is a brutal sadist with a rather large InferioritySuperiorityComplex on the side, they all display enough {{Badass}}ery badassery to make them some of the most popular characters in the series, with Raoh arguably being ''the'' most popular character in the series.
4th Dec '16 2:21:48 AM DrPsyche
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* [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character Battle]]: "What's this? Mr. Heart is ''immune'' to Kenshiro's blows? This fight could be cool... Oh wait, he killed him by kicking him a whole lot in the stomach."

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* [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character Battle]]: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
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"What's this? Mr. Heart is ''immune'' to Kenshiro's blows? This fight could be cool... Oh wait, he killed him by kicking him a whole lot in the stomach.""
** After his arc Jagi is almost completely dropped from the story and we go from the 4 Hokuto brothers to 3. Many lament the loss of him, being one of the comic's most despicable and yet also popular villains. Future flashbacks to Ken's childhood downplay his presence severely and we never see him interact with any of his other brothers in any meaningful capacity.
22nd Nov '16 4:43:57 PM DrPsyche
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* BrokenBase: The 1986 Movie. Some despise it for all the changes it makes (removing Toki, cutting down Shin's screen time, etc.) and feel that all the story from Parts 1-2 forced into a 110 minute production leaves the story rushed and uneven. Others feel it's a well done PragmaticAdaptation that manages to keep the spirit of the story along with its themes, and is helped immensely by excellent animation (granted the video quality on many copies is dubious). Then there's the dub. Some see it as a cringeworthy CutAndPasteTranslation that removes key information, changes the context of several scenes, and has the dub actors awkwardly mispronounce the characters names. Others are more accepting of the changes, as the story is still coherent and the dub has a number of good actors putting in solid performances in an era when many such productions were usually characterized by a lack of polish or effort.

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The 1986 Movie. Some despise it for all the changes it makes (removing Toki, cutting down Shin's screen time, etc.) and feel that all the story from Parts 1-2 forced into a 110 minute production leaves the story rushed and uneven. Others feel it's a well done PragmaticAdaptation that manages to keep the spirit of the story along with its themes, and is helped immensely by excellent animation (granted the video quality on many copies is dubious). Then there's the dub. Some see it as a cringeworthy CutAndPasteTranslation that removes key information, changes the context of several scenes, and has the dub actors awkwardly mispronounce the characters names. Others are more accepting of the changes, as the story is still coherent and the dub has a number of good actors putting in solid performances in an era when many such productions were usually characterized by a lack of polish or effort.effort.
** Daran Norris as Rei in the Manga Entertainment dub of the cartoon, was he a good fit? Some feel his voice was ill fitting for Rei being too nasally and deep for someone that young looking, while others are much more forgiving and feel his voice was a decent choice with later roles like [[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime Knock Out]] showing he's good at older pretty boys.
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