History YMMV / FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren

20th Aug '15 1:49:06 AM Adept
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Memetic Sex God is no longer a trope
* MemeticSexGod: Quite a few have become sexier over time. Even ''Barret'' got on the bandwagon.
20th Jul '15 5:44:21 PM Mullon
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* JustHereForGodzilla: There are many reasons people watched ''Advent Children'': to see the cast of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' again after eight years, to see the cast animated in (especially 2005) jaw-dropping CGI, for the fight scenes, for the fight scenes in the context that they are what it would be like if you took a JRPG boss fight and choreographed it, or you are just waiting it out until the Cloud vs. Sephiroth rematch happens. What's rare to find though is someone who appreciates the movie for itself, or likes the whole movie, including the non-action scenes.
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* JustHereForGodzilla: There are many reasons people watched watch ''Advent Children'': to see the cast of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' again after eight years, to see the cast animated in (especially 2005) jaw-dropping CGI, for the fight scenes, for the fight scenes in the context that they are what it would be like if you took a JRPG boss fight and choreographed it, or you are just waiting it out until the Cloud vs. Sephiroth rematch happens. What's rare to find though is someone who appreciates the movie for itself, or likes the whole movie, including the non-action scenes.
18th Jun '15 10:05:50 PM Mullon
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* JustHereForGodzilla: There are many reasons people watched ''Advent Children'': to see the cast of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' again after eight years, to see the cast animated in (especially 2005) jaw-dropping CGI, for the fight scenes, for the fight scenes in the context that they are what it would be like if you took a JRPG boss fight and choreographed it, or you are just waiting it out until the Cloud vs. Sephiroth rematch happens. What's rare to find though is someone who appreciates the movie for itself, or likes the whole movie, including the not dramatic scenes.
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* JustHereForGodzilla: There are many reasons people watched ''Advent Children'': to see the cast of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' again after eight years, to see the cast animated in (especially 2005) jaw-dropping CGI, for the fight scenes, for the fight scenes in the context that they are what it would be like if you took a JRPG boss fight and choreographed it, or you are just waiting it out until the Cloud vs. Sephiroth rematch happens. What's rare to find though is someone who appreciates the movie for itself, or likes the whole movie, including the not dramatic non-action scenes.
18th Jun '15 10:04:48 PM Mullon
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* JustHereForGodzilla: There are many reasons people watched ''Advent Children'': to see the cast of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' again after eight years, to see the cast animated in (especially 2005) jaw-dropping CGI, for the fight scenes, for the fight scenes in the context that they are what it would be like if you took a JRPG boss fight and choreographed it, or you are just waiting it out until the Cloud vs. Sephiroth rematch happens. What's rare to find though is someone who appreciates the movie for itself, or likes the whole movie, including the not dramatic scenes.
7th Jun '15 1:37:03 PM mlsmithca
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It says quite clearly on the page for And The Fandom Rejoiced not to link to it. It is for in-universe examples and the descriptions at the beginning of trope pages only.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Moogle Girl, who even gets an expanded role in ''Complete''. Her voice actress was likewise upgraded to voicing Aerith for ''Crisis Core''. AndTheFandomRejoiced.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Moogle Girl, who even gets an expanded role in ''Complete''. Her voice actress was likewise upgraded to voicing Aerith for ''Crisis Core''. AndTheFandomRejoiced.
7th Jun '15 8:38:33 AM fearlessnikki
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: While it's definite that [[spoiler: Aerith is helping them from beyond the grave, with her Great Gospel limit break]], the conversations Cloud has with her (and Zack in ''Complete'' as well) could be real. Or they could be his imagination, as a way of trying to forgive himself.

* BaseBreaker: Mena Suvari's performance as Aerith was this at the time of the film's release. It didn't help that she replaced Mandy Moore who had voiced the character in ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts'' (and the other ''VII'' characters had kept their actors from that game). When ''Kingdom Hearts II'' came out, she became even more disliked and that was her last time voicing the character.

* EnsembleDarkhorse: Moogle Girl, who even gets an expanded role in ''Complete''.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Moogle Girl, who even gets an expanded role in ''Complete''. Her voice actress was likewise upgraded to voicing Aerith for ''Crisis Core''. AndTheFandomRejoiced.

* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/DaveWittenberg voices Yazoo, a remanent of Sephiroth, in ''Advent Children''. Years later, in ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'', he voices another ''Final Fantasy'' character: [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI Kefka Palazzo]], who is also one of the rivals of Sephiroth in terms of the fanbase.
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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight: ** Creator/DaveWittenberg voices Yazoo, a remanent of Sephiroth, in ''Advent Children''. Years later, in ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'', he voices another ''Final Fantasy'' character: [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI Kefka Palazzo]], who is also one of the rivals of Sephiroth in terms of the fanbase.fanbase. ** George Newbern and Rick Gomez were picked as the English voice actors of Sephiroth and Zack respectively. They had just done ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX2'' where they were again soldiers together, Newbern's character went mad and Gomez's character got shot.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/DaveWittenberg voices Yazoo, a remanent NarmCharm: From the English dub, "dilly-dally, shilly-shally". It's rather silly when it's said by Tifa and Aerith, in response to Cloud isolating himself. However its original Japanese counterpart was very hard to translate into English[[note]]What was said in the Japanese was "zuruzuru", an onomatopœia that mimics the sound of Sephiroth, dragging a heavy load. "Dilly-dally, shilly-shally" is an expression that's used when someone's wasting time focusing on unimportant things - making this quite close to an English counterpart[[/note]]. It's so silly in ''Advent Children''. Years later, in ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'', he voices another ''Final Fantasy'' character: [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI Kefka Palazzo]], who is also one the context of the rivals of Sephiroth in terms of the fanbase.scene that it becomes rather cute.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/DaveWittenberg voices Yazoo, a remanent of Sephiroth, ** The Moogle Girl's expanded backstory in ''Advent Children''. Years later, in ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'', he voices another ''Final Fantasy'' character: [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI Kefka Palazzo]], who is also one of ''Complete''. She and her brother are implied to get the rivals of Sephiroth stigma from a man they help in terms of the fanbase.an alley. She's seen trying to carry her brother on her back, while trying to hide their sickness. Her brother then is implied to have died from it before she goes with Yazoo.
29th Jan '15 10:14:46 AM MrDeath
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Complaining sinkhole.
* WinBackTheCrowd: Many in the fanbase prefers the director's cut version over the original. This because of how the director's cut improved Cloud's characterization giving him more heartwarming scenes that tried to overshadow his brooding, further flashbacks that help to understand the story to newcomers and extended fight scenes. However, the movie still has a BrokenBase, as the director's cut also undercuts Cloud's defeat of Sephiroth by adding in [[CreatorsPet Zack]] as a factor.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Many in the fanbase prefers the director's cut version over the original. This because of how the director's cut improved Cloud's characterization giving him more heartwarming scenes that tried to overshadow his brooding, further flashbacks that help to understand the story to newcomers and extended fight scenes. However, the movie still has a BrokenBase, as the director's cut also undercuts Cloud's defeat of Sephiroth by adding in [[CreatorsPet Zack]] Zack as a factor.
29th Jan '15 9:24:51 AM CharlestonMan
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* WinBACKTheCrowd: Most of the fanbase prefers the director's cut version over the original. This because of how the director's cut improved Cloud's characterization giving him more heartwarming scenes that tried to overshadow his brooding, further flashbacks that help to understand the story to newcomers and extended fight scenes. However, the movie still has a BrokenBase.
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* WinBACKTheCrowd: Most of WinBackTheCrowd: Many in the fanbase prefers the director's cut version over the original. This because of how the director's cut improved Cloud's characterization giving him more heartwarming scenes that tried to overshadow his brooding, further flashbacks that help to understand the story to newcomers and extended fight scenes. However, the movie still has a BrokenBase.BrokenBase, as the director's cut also undercuts Cloud's defeat of Sephiroth by adding in [[CreatorsPet Zack]] as a factor.
29th Jan '15 9:23:09 AM CharlestonMan
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Moogle Girl, who even gets an expanded role in "Complete".
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Moogle Girl, who even gets an expanded role in "Complete".''Complete''.

** "Unforgiveable!" -> "[[MoodWhiplash You meanie!]]" Because Loz apparently needed to be more of a ManChild.
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** "Unforgiveable!" -> "[[MoodWhiplash You meanie!]]" Because Loz apparently needed to be more even ''more'' of a ManChild.

* {{Wangst}}: People accuse Cloud of this despite being about to die. Nevertheless, he actually gets over it about halfway through the film and ''says so.''
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* {{Wangst}}: People accuse Cloud of this despite being about to die. Nevertheless, he actually gets over it about halfway through the film and ''says so.'''' This is one of the things most people agree ''Complete'' fixes, as [[AuthorsSavingThrow it explains that Cloud's wangst is a side-effect of Geostigma's affect on the mind.]]
29th Jan '15 9:18:53 AM CharlestonMan
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Moogle Girl, who even gets an expanded role in "Complete".
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