History YMMV / FightClub

14th Sep '16 12:41:42 AM KingClark
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* SpritualSuccessor: To Film/Freeway.



8th Sep '16 6:03:59 AM ThePest179
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** "I am Jack's [X]"
6th Sep '16 7:26:13 PM cwf123
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* SpritualSuccessor: To Film/Freeway.
22nd Jun '16 3:48:31 AM gewunomox
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** {{Pixies}}' "Where Is My Mind?" playing over the end credits.

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** {{Pixies}}' Music/ThePixies' "Where Is My Mind?" playing over the end credits.
18th Jun '16 10:27:12 PM lady_peaseblossom
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** Also Bob, a cancer survivor who finds a renewed control of his life and his masculinity in Tyler's fight clubs and Project Mayhem [[spoiler: and ultimately gets killed for it.]]
31st May '16 2:36:19 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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* CultClassic: To the point that people started real Fight Clubs.

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* CultClassic: To During its original outing in the theatres, the film fell sort of the executives' expectations and received polarized reviews from the critics. Its real breakthrough came with its DVD release, where it gathered a devoted cult following, to the point that people started real life Fight Clubs.
19th May '16 1:44:25 PM starpuncher
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*** Going off of this, it's worth mentioning that Tyler is often interpreted as a personification of toxic masculinity (being the manifestation of a relatively average dude's ideal self; "I look like you want to look, fuck like you want to fuck," etc.) intended to demonstrate how dangerous the kind of man that our culture idolizes actually is. Despite this, Fight Club is often pointed to as the ultimate Dude Film and has even been described as a celebration of masculinity, sometimes by the exact kind of person it was originally meant to skewer.


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** A slightly meta example in how "the first rule of Fight Club is you do not talk about Fight Club" has undergone MemeticMutation. In pop culture, it's often brought up when someone asks about the book/movie, at which point someone recites the first rule of Fight Club and refuses to talk about it further. In the actual material, the first rule of Fight Club pretty much exists to be broken. Members of Fight Club aren't supposed to keep their traps shut about Fight Club, they're meant to go out and tell as many guys as they can about it. Project Mayhem relies on Tyler having amassed an army, which wouldn't be possible if the first rule was supposed to be taken literally.
12th May '16 5:41:46 AM NemesisKane
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** His name is Robert Paulsen.
5th Mar '16 7:04:45 PM ading
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Tyler Durden's message of "Consumerism is BAD!" is so anvilicious that it's often taken as the actual film's message. These viewers tend to forget that Durden is the ''villain'' of the film. Durden has a point, but he's insane-- in fact, [[spoiler:he IS a mental illness!]]-- and his actions are extreme. Ultimately, the story suggests a balance between the narrator's neutered existence and Durden's neo-primitive anarcho-terrorist philosophy.
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: More like alternate ''movie'' interpretation. Many critics (specifically [[NeedsMoreGay Rantasmo]]) have made the comparison of the Narrator's life to that of a closeted homosexual who desperately wants to be straight (Chuck Palahniuk himself is Gay). The Narrator feels a certain "emptiness" in his life which he fills by shamelessly pretending to be someone he isn't. However, his catharsis is lost once Marla forces him to acknowledge that he's living a lie, and his anger is the catalyst to the introduction[[spoiler:/creation]] of Tyler Durden, who is everything the narrator wishes he could be: attractive, confident and very obviously straight. All of the sex scenes with Marla are [[spoiler: with the Tyler persona]], while the Narrator finds her repulsive. The ensuing chaos is symbolic of someone so in denial about who they are that it becomes hurtful to themselves and everyone around them, and Tyler's [[spoiler: "death"]] is the Narrator coming to terms with who he is. Notice how he and Marla [[spoiler: hold hands instead of kissing]] at the end.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Tyler Durden's message of "Consumerism is BAD!" is so anvilicious that it's often taken as the actual film's message. These viewers tend to forget that Durden is the ''villain'' of the film. Durden has a point, but he's insane-- in insane--in fact, [[spoiler:he he IS a mental illness!]]-- illness!-- and his actions are extreme. Ultimately, the story suggests a balance between the narrator's neutered existence and Durden's neo-primitive anarcho-terrorist philosophy.
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: More like alternate ''movie'' interpretation. Many critics (specifically [[NeedsMoreGay Rantasmo]]) have made the comparison of the Narrator's life to that of a closeted homosexual who desperately wants to be straight (Chuck Palahniuk himself is Gay). The Narrator feels a certain "emptiness" in his life which he fills by shamelessly pretending to be someone he isn't. However, his catharsis is lost once Marla forces him to acknowledge that he's living a lie, and his anger is the catalyst to the introduction[[spoiler:/creation]] introduction/creation of Tyler Durden, who is everything the narrator wishes he could be: attractive, confident and very obviously straight. All of the sex scenes with Marla are [[spoiler: with the Tyler persona]], persona, while the Narrator finds her repulsive. The ensuing chaos is symbolic of someone so in denial about who they are that it becomes hurtful to themselves and everyone around them, and Tyler's [[spoiler: "death"]] is the Narrator coming to terms with who he is. Notice how he and Marla [[spoiler: hold hands instead of kissing]] at the end.



* CrazyAwesome: Tyler [[spoiler: and by extension the Narrator]] soap salesman, philosopher, cult leader, terrorist.

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* CrazyAwesome: Tyler [[spoiler: and by extension the Narrator]] Narrator, soap salesman, philosopher, cult leader, terrorist.



* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler:Tyler Durden is the narrator's split personality.]] It's to the point that it, along with "You do not talk about Fight Club", [[AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame are the two most common things people who've never seen or read Fight Club know about it.]]
* JerkassWoobie: Tyler. [[spoiler: He is only a split personality of the narrator and is literally the personified composite of his rage and melancholy]]; he hates himself, hence his pontificating about self-destruction and hitting bottom. And [[spoiler: the narrator, the very person who created him, kills him at the end of the film.]] However, he ''is'' also a nihilistic sociopath.

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* ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler:Tyler Tyler Durden is the narrator's split personality.]] personality. It's to the point that it, along with "You do not talk about Fight Club", [[AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame are the two most common things people who've never seen or read Fight Club know about it.]]
* JerkassWoobie: Tyler. [[spoiler: He is only a split personality of the narrator and is literally the personified composite of his rage and melancholy]]; melancholy; he hates himself, hence his pontificating about self-destruction and hitting bottom. And [[spoiler: the narrator, the very person who created him, kills him at the end of the film.]] However, he ''is'' also a nihilistic sociopath.



** It's also worth noting that Tyler ''does'' initially start out kinda reasonable, if very rebellious. His increasing fanaticism is presumably indicative of [[spoiler:the Narrator's own decaying mental state.]]

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** It's also worth noting that Tyler ''does'' initially start out kinda reasonable, if very rebellious. His increasing fanaticism is presumably indicative of [[spoiler:the the Narrator's own decaying mental state.]]



** Something of a misaimed hatedom: Creator/RogerEbert declared this movie "cheerfully fascist" and not only gave it a poor review, but reviewed several movies positively by bashing this movie in comparison to them. Apparently he didn't catch [[spoiler:that all the extreme opinions and ideas are held by a character who's literally a walking symptom of mental illness.]]

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** Something of a misaimed hatedom: Creator/RogerEbert declared this movie "cheerfully fascist" and not only gave it a poor review, but reviewed several movies positively by bashing this movie in comparison to them. Apparently he didn't catch [[spoiler:that that all the extreme opinions and ideas are held by a character who's literally a walking symptom of mental illness.]]



* RewatchBonus: A huge part of the popularity and enduring appeal of the film. The second time you watch the film, you'll wonder how you didn't realize that [[spoiler:Tyler is not real]], that you may have {{handwave}}d as coincidences the first time round, such as [[spoiler:Tyler and the protagonist owning the same type of suitcase]], or even as continuity errors such as [[spoiler:the Narrator being pulled from the ''driver's'' seat after the car crash]]. In fact the film has so many examples that it [[Fridge/FightClub has its own page]] - suffice to say that when you finish it, you ''will'' watch it again almost immediately. You'll also be amazed at how much your perception of Marla changes the second time around - her actions seem far less irrational once you have the whole picture. You'll also try to spot all the single frame shots of Tyler that appear before he actually shows up in-character.

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* RewatchBonus: A huge part of the popularity and enduring appeal of the film. The second time you watch the film, you'll wonder how you didn't realize that [[spoiler:Tyler Tyler is not real]], real, that you may have {{handwave}}d as coincidences the first time round, such as [[spoiler:Tyler Tyler and the protagonist owning the same type of suitcase]], suitcase, or even as continuity errors such as [[spoiler:the the Narrator being pulled from the ''driver's'' seat after the car crash]].crash. In fact the film has so many examples that it [[Fridge/FightClub has its own page]] - suffice to say that when you finish it, you ''will'' watch it again almost immediately. You'll also be amazed at how much your perception of Marla changes the second time around - her actions seem far less irrational once you have the whole picture. You'll also try to spot all the single frame shots of Tyler that appear before he actually shows up in-character.



* TheWoobie: Marla, who has contend with her relationship with Tyler [[spoiler: and the narrator by proxy.]]

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* TheWoobie: Marla, who has contend with her relationship with Tyler [[spoiler: Tyler, and the narrator by proxy.]]
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17th Feb '16 11:17:56 PM coralina33
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** Marla's line "the condom is the glass slipper of this generation," with Helena Bonham-Carter's role in ''Film/{{Cinderella2015}}''.

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** Marla's line "the condom is the glass slipper of this generation," with Helena Bonham-Carter's role in ''Film/{{Cinderella2015}}''.''[[Film/{{Cinderella2015}} Cinderella]]''.
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